I'm not saying that Welles wasn't in shape - not back then, anyway. But he never looked like your all-around, all-American athlete. He was always slightly....hulking - more like a wrestler than a gymnast or runner.
And another thing: I just couldn't see Orson Welles as Batman. I'm sorry, I just couldn't. I just can't help thinking of him as an unathletic fat man, even though he wasn't that chubby when he was younger.
Bruce Wayne/Batman would have been a next-to-impossible role to cast in the 1940s. There weren't many actors who could do both "tough" and "good-looking sophisticated" equally well. I'm thinking Cary Grant as Bruce Wayne and Gary Cooper as Batman, but of course they're not the same person.
I think something you have to put into context is that people weren't in "shape" the way they are today. You wouldn't find an actor matching Bruce Wayne's physique and even that aspect of Batman wasn't really a focal point until the early 70's. I think Welles had the right height, build, and deep voice to pull off a 1940's style Batman.
This would have been well-cast, especially the roles of Commissioner Gordon and Catwoman. But why wouldn't Edward G. Robinson have had a putty "beak," like every other actor who has portrayed the Penguin in live action?
@RavnDream Conrad Veidt from The Man Who Laughs, the movie that inspired Jerry Robinson to create Batman´s nemesis. What you see there is the original Joker (The Man Who Laughs was released 11 years before the creation of Batman)
@Sonoman02 In fact this Joker is the real deal since Jerry Robinson created him after Conrad Veidt´s character in The Man Who Laughs. Even the first panel that shows Joker´s face in Batman 01 was an exact reproduction of Veidt´s face shoot included in this fanfilm.
It's funny cuz even though this is a faux trailer made from clips of other, unrelated movies taken out of context, I find it's really perfect at embodying everything I love about Batman as a character - the music and Welles' deep, somber voice help, but it's really a marvel of editing.
You have to include Conrad Veidt as the Joker, even if he WAS dead in 1947. If he's in your video AS the Joker, including him in your cast is only right.
K so if this is fake then hats off to the author.... just entirely too plausible.... much kudos Mr Welles woulda made an interesting Bat Man indeed...
very impressive, great cast. The joker's really terrifing and the penguin's just too much:). It would have made a classic if Orson Wells would have done it.
That's good editing. Too bad it wasn't real. It's just a mix mash of different movies, notably "The Man Who Laughs", the movie that inspired the creators of Batman to create the Joker. It also has footge of the Columbia Pictures Bat-man serials.
By the way, another tip of that its a fake is that Selina Kyle and the Penguin weren't named until later, and Catwoman was simply known as "The Cat" in that period in the comics.
Owned.
However, Orson Welles did have interest in making a Batman movie.
Mark Millar wrote this whole thing about Wells doing Batman, back in the day. So Wells wanting to do this film is the fake thing. (look it up on wiki) This guy just ran with the idea. And in an excellent way.
This is awesome. Wish I could hear Dietrich's final line though. But along with part 1 this makes me so hungry for a film that doesn't exist and never will!
Awesome. This must have taken a while to put together. Well done, its really good. Have you got a version that can be downloaded from somewhere? Love to play this on my projector screen :-)
That was amazing. I actually want to see this movie now.
Just a few minor complaints, though. The picture was kind of dark (probably not really your fault, as the source material was a lot of film noir), it was hard to hear at times, and I don't understand why you split it in two when the whole thing combined was less than ten minutes.
this is simply brilliant, its as if the batman characters were all based upon Orson Welles, Edward G. Robinson, Marlene Deitrich, and Conrad Veidt (actually the Joker WAS based on him), this is like Batman meets the original Scarface...fucking brilliant man!
It's actually supposed to follow directly after 'Part 1' - they are two halves of one trailer; I had to split it in half as it was too big! 'M' is a great suggestion; I wish I had thought of that!
Many thanks for the kind words - it did take ages to make!
Not as good as the first one. maybe u should point out that it's batman 2 and focus it entirely on the joker(not robin or catwoman). and use footage from the movie "M" to come up with great shots of a city driven to fear by the mad man.
obviously its not real, but thats not the point. the fact is i think this is a really well-made and entertaining video, a lot of work obviously went into producing it and Sirrus if you made this then well done to you, I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
Hey symbiote24! Thanks for your intelligent and well thought-out analysis! It's so great to have someone like you on this site to let us know whether or not something is good! You, like, totally rock! Now go away and update your MySpace page...and grow a brain if you can.
Man, that was incredible! A true work of genius! Well done!!!
AmazingGordo 1 month ago
This gave me a major nerdgasm.
GusF 3 months ago
i remember this article and then it being a hoax and i was angry it wasn't real, this makes up for it
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I'm not saying that Welles wasn't in shape - not back then, anyway. But he never looked like your all-around, all-American athlete. He was always slightly....hulking - more like a wrestler than a gymnast or runner.
SeasideDetective2 6 months ago
And another thing: I just couldn't see Orson Welles as Batman. I'm sorry, I just couldn't. I just can't help thinking of him as an unathletic fat man, even though he wasn't that chubby when he was younger.
Bruce Wayne/Batman would have been a next-to-impossible role to cast in the 1940s. There weren't many actors who could do both "tough" and "good-looking sophisticated" equally well. I'm thinking Cary Grant as Bruce Wayne and Gary Cooper as Batman, but of course they're not the same person.
SeasideDetective2 6 months ago
@SeasideDetective2
I think something you have to put into context is that people weren't in "shape" the way they are today. You wouldn't find an actor matching Bruce Wayne's physique and even that aspect of Batman wasn't really a focal point until the early 70's. I think Welles had the right height, build, and deep voice to pull off a 1940's style Batman.
ZenCatcher 6 months ago
This would have been well-cast, especially the roles of Commissioner Gordon and Catwoman. But why wouldn't Edward G. Robinson have had a putty "beak," like every other actor who has portrayed the Penguin in live action?
SeasideDetective2 6 months ago
So, who "plays" the Joker?
RavnDream 6 months ago
@RavnDream Conrad Veidt from The Man Who Laughs, the movie that inspired Jerry Robinson to create Batman´s nemesis. What you see there is the original Joker (The Man Who Laughs was released 11 years before the creation of Batman)
teddyrocker 1 month ago
@teddyrocker Thanks. =)
RavnDream 1 month ago
WONDERFUL !!!
Very creative job. It´s a pity that Welles doesn´t finish his masterwork (He He)...
Just a little criticism: The Joker looks like Stan laurel, (and it´s hard to believe in his cruelty)!!!
Sonoman02 8 months ago
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@Sonoman02 In fact this Joker is the real deal since Jerry Robinson created him after Conrad Veidt´s character in The Man Who Laughs. Even the first panel that shows Joker´s face in Batman 01 was an exact reproduction of Veidt´s face shoot included in this fanfilm.
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What's the name of the music that plays through 1:34-1:54 ?
speedsurfer123 10 months ago
Great trailer, cleverly edited; it makes wish this actually existed!
DoctorPretorious616 10 months ago
I would have bought this trailer, if the costume weren't so SILLY LOOKING... Otherwise, FANTASTIC JOB!
BlackHoleSun1921 11 months ago
"You long faced, over dressed anarchist!" Haha It's amazing how that line from Citizen Kane perfectly captures the Joker.
ZenCatcher 1 year ago 3
@2:51 Ungawa! That boy is Johnny Sheffield a.k.a. Boy in the Tarzan movies with Johnny Weismuller.
bondurango 1 year ago
IF ONLY!..Hehehehehe GREAT JOB SIRRUS!...Conrad Veidt - Original Joker!
johnnynoirman 1 year ago
Bigs ups for Conrad Veidt!
Rottenhaus 1 year ago
It's funny cuz even though this is a faux trailer made from clips of other, unrelated movies taken out of context, I find it's really perfect at embodying everything I love about Batman as a character - the music and Welles' deep, somber voice help, but it's really a marvel of editing.
SpeedTiberius 1 year ago 2
Greatly done
UKMAN23 1 year ago
Interesting concept...and superb editing.
jim30bell 1 year ago
What's the name of the song that plays through 1:10-1:1:35?
SpeedTiberius 1 year ago
this would've been the greatest movie ever made... better than Citizen Kane!!
painlessissuicide 2 years ago
You are such a dick!
wetlazer 2 years ago
This is masterful editing
nice nod to Joseph Cotten there lol
great job
eslubin 2 years ago
Haha, very good. Impressive, in fact.
marcolopolis55 2 years ago
OMG!! Look at 1:08 ...Conrad Veidt from The Man who Laughs !!, Was he going to play The Joker?!
Rorschach2710 2 years ago
No. The joker was inspired by his version of the man who laughs.
elbethere 2 years ago
yes, i've heard that its were bob kane got the idea from, but why is Gwynplaine in this trailer?
Rorschach2710 2 years ago
who else would you include? He's the closest thing to an old time movie joker.
elbethere 2 years ago
@Rorschach2710 In fact it wasn´t Bob Kane but Jerry Robinson who created the Joker.
teddyrocker 1 month ago
Again, Brilliant!
thedabaraHPL 2 years ago
Very funny and well done!
OrsonWellesGenius 2 years ago
You have to include Conrad Veidt as the Joker, even if he WAS dead in 1947. If he's in your video AS the Joker, including him in your cast is only right.
yohannbiimu 2 years ago 4
That was amazing! Another good director for an old Batman film would've been Fritz Lang.
Cam1020 2 years ago 4
@Cam1020 Fritz Lang would be better directing Superman than Batman.
teddyrocker 1 month ago
I tried to use as much as possible from Orson Welles movies - so used a clip from The Trial - it's Anthony Perkins laughing!
Sirrus79 2 years ago
really?! It's absolutely terrifying!!
Nice use of Veidt footage from The Man Who Laughs...Couldn't really be anybody else, could it!
Utterly superb. 10 out of 10
Titanium0X 2 years ago 2
A lot of thought went into this...a fine piece. Kudos.
princeminski47 2 years ago
K so if this is fake then hats off to the author.... just entirely too plausible.... much kudos Mr Welles woulda made an interesting Bat Man indeed...
reluctantprophet7 2 years ago 4
If only this were real.
SpeedTiberius 2 years ago 14
did this ever hit the screen i want to see this if it is please reply
fun012345 3 years ago
No, it is just a fan trailer I put together as a bit of fun! Glad you liked it!
Sirrus79 2 years ago
Holly Shit that is so Wonderful!
skinwalkerxxx 3 years ago
If only the master of cinema as we know it could have brought the greatest superhero to life for the first time. Brilliant.
UnrealPictures 3 years ago 3
Brilliant. Absolutely believable. Who said Orson Welles was dead? He was with you the whole time.
william0000000 3 years ago 2
That's really good. Who was that for the 'Joker' segment? Scary.
koinshaku 3 years ago
I think it was Conrad Veidt from "The Man Who Laughs," which was the inspiration for the Joker in the first place.
wookie72 3 years ago 4
Really? Didn't know that. Very cool, thanks for the info.
LKBell11 3 years ago 2
Wow. How I would have loved to have watched that were it real. Great job man!!!
batbat29640 3 years ago
very impressive, great cast. The joker's really terrifing and the penguin's just too much:). It would have made a classic if Orson Wells would have done it.
Great job that you could be prood of.
yveslabelle 3 years ago
Beautiful. That is real class. I loved it.
geligniteandlilies 3 years ago
Edward G. Robinson as the Penguin is a brilliant idea!
ohrmets 3 years ago 2
THis is different from the other fan films. No better only more...artistic!
Bravo! Damn good job!
takomaguy 3 years ago
You let my secret out... Grr...
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felcho15 3 years ago
gorgeous.
realistic.
superb!
movie credits for non-film buffs like me would've been nice, but still, superb!
bluegrayx 3 years ago
That's good editing. Too bad it wasn't real. It's just a mix mash of different movies, notably "The Man Who Laughs", the movie that inspired the creators of Batman to create the Joker. It also has footge of the Columbia Pictures Bat-man serials.
By the way, another tip of that its a fake is that Selina Kyle and the Penguin weren't named until later, and Catwoman was simply known as "The Cat" in that period in the comics.
Owned.
However, Orson Welles did have interest in making a Batman movie.
3iD0LoN 3 years ago
Well, DUH! Of course its fake!
Mark Millar wrote this whole thing about Wells doing Batman, back in the day. So Wells wanting to do this film is the fake thing. (look it up on wiki) This guy just ran with the idea. And in an excellent way.
Doeney 3 years ago 6
Ahh if this was real, it could've been the best film of all time..!
happinessjake 3 years ago 14
God damn, fabulously well cut. I just wish it actually was made.. oh well.
RKingFaraday 3 years ago 5
Amazing bro
tyberious25 4 years ago
Hi, anyone interested in downloading the trailer - have a look on Limewire, as I've put it up for sharing (though not connected all day).
Cheers!
Sirrus79 4 years ago
this is genius. I hope you can give us a part 3 somehow, with two face?
allstarshawk 4 years ago
OK, if this movie was at the theater, I would pay $10 to see it. Unlike 'Batman Begins,' which I still regret paying $5 to see, 3 flippin' years ago.
flapdoodle64 4 years ago
Is it true that Charles Laughton was gonna play King Tut?
alanr4447a 4 years ago
This is awesome. Wish I could hear Dietrich's final line though. But along with part 1 this makes me so hungry for a film that doesn't exist and never will!
RodneyCatling 4 years ago 3
"Why don't you stay here? I don't always cheat and lie!"
Thanks for the kind words.
Sirrus79 4 years ago
Orson Welles as Batman and Marlene Dietrich as Catwoman is pretty much the best idea ever in the history of best ideas ever.
CoryTheRaven 4 years ago 5
with EG robinson as Penguin! Perfect
pbandjshow 4 years ago 3
Awesome. This must have taken a while to put together. Well done, its really good. Have you got a version that can be downloaded from somewhere? Love to play this on my projector screen :-)
MrJim 4 years ago 2
Hi, thanks for your kind words. Not sure how to make it available for download - PM me if you have any suggestions!
Sirrus79 4 years ago
While not real,this trailer i by far the best thing i see about a Batman movie.Too bad that it's fan-made.
619heat 4 years ago
The greatest film never made!
macmcmatthews 4 years ago 4
That was amazing. I actually want to see this movie now.
Just a few minor complaints, though. The picture was kind of dark (probably not really your fault, as the source material was a lot of film noir), it was hard to hear at times, and I don't understand why you split it in two when the whole thing combined was less than ten minutes.
rockdontrun 4 years ago 3
this is simply brilliant, its as if the batman characters were all based upon Orson Welles, Edward G. Robinson, Marlene Deitrich, and Conrad Veidt (actually the Joker WAS based on him), this is like Batman meets the original Scarface...fucking brilliant man!
jtc0331 4 years ago 3
I thought it was Basil Rathbone who played the joker was it not?
mordig 3 years ago
this is beautiful; thanks for sharing it.
mnoe817 4 years ago 3
It's actually supposed to follow directly after 'Part 1' - they are two halves of one trailer; I had to split it in half as it was too big! 'M' is a great suggestion; I wish I had thought of that!
Many thanks for the kind words - it did take ages to make!
Sirrus79 4 years ago
Not as good as the first one. maybe u should point out that it's batman 2 and focus it entirely on the joker(not robin or catwoman). and use footage from the movie "M" to come up with great shots of a city driven to fear by the mad man.
skinwalkerxxx 4 years ago
obviously its not real, but thats not the point. the fact is i think this is a really well-made and entertaining video, a lot of work obviously went into producing it and Sirrus if you made this then well done to you, I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
thehitman454 4 years ago
Hey symbiote24! Thanks for your intelligent and well thought-out analysis! It's so great to have someone like you on this site to let us know whether or not something is good! You, like, totally rock! Now go away and update your MySpace page...and grow a brain if you can.
Sirrus79 4 years ago
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crap
symbiote24 4 years ago