Haqaiq Fitna Qadiani with References-2 {TeamRoshne} 01-01-2010

[TeamRoshne]

Kuch Mirzae Hazrat ky post delete karna iss ley zarore samjaha gaya ky un ka kam Bholy bhaly Masoom Musalmano ko Gumrah karky apny Mazhab mayen shamil karna hay....Allah Hum sab ko Islam per Qaim Rakhy aur Rasool Allah S.A.W. ki Sache Muhabbat, Atta-at aur FarmanBardari Naseeb per Qaim O Daim Rakhy...Ameen

[TeamRoshne]

@zubairgermany2 Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 4:

And who believe in (the Quran and the Sunnah) which has been sent down (revealed) to you (Muhammad Peace be upon him) and in [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.] which were sent down before you and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter. (Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell, etc.).

There is no Concept of any Wahee After RasoolAllah S.A.W.W in this Ayah. No Wahee Means No Nabi.....

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@Luqmanb04 ﺇﻟﻬﻲﺇﻟﻬﻲﻟﻣﺎﺴﺒﻘﺗﻨﻲ

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@Luqmanb04

ma'zrat k saath, iss se mirza ki nabuwwat kaise sabit hoti hai.

aap apni or mirza ki baat karain

main to sirf is baat ko janna chahta hoon k mirza nabi hai naheen?

taweelat or zatiat pr behess naheen hai

mirza, oss ka kirdar, oss k paigham or oss ka tareqae kar pr baat karo

baaqi sb fuzuliyat hain

ye batao k mirza nabi hai ya naheen or kaise ye sabit ho k wo hai.

ab tk to iss zaman main yehee nazr aata hai k mirza jhoota nabi hai.

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@Luqmanb04

14:4 وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَسُولٍ إِلَّا بِلِسَانِ قَوْمِهِ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ ۖ فَيُضِلُّ اللَّهُ مَنْ يَشَاءُ وَيَهْدِي مَنْ يَشَاءُ ۚ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ

iss se mirza ki angrezi main wahi uterney ka kya ta'lluq hai?

main sirf mirza ki zatiyat pr baat karonga. kisi or ki naheen.

ۖ فَيُضِلُّ اللَّهُ مَنْ يَشَاءُ وَيَهْدِي مَنْ يَشَاءُ

seedhi baat hai, iss main wahi ki zaba k koi zkr nahee.

haza lissanel Quran, la yureedun tafsir

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@Luqmanb04 3 hamare nabi ne kaha k wo 'AKSe' Mohammedi (saws) hain. Lekin ye bhool gaye k AKS hamisha ISLI ka ULTA / MUTAZAD hota hai. 'hamare a'qeede k mutabiq' to ye bhi to kaho k 'hamare mzhb k mutabiq', naheen, Islam k mutabiq. aap log Islam k mutabiq or Quran k mutabiq baat naheen krte. agar krte to ye ftna na hota. dyare maghrib k rehne walo khuda ki basti dukan naheen hai khra jisey tm samajh rahe ho wo zare km a'yar hoga. kb tk a dhong chaleyga? kb tk ghareeb mussleman gumrah hongay

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@Luqmanb04

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or wo kaisa Allah?

"pnchon ka kehna sr aankon pr, pr prnala yeheen behega"

Quran ki sb ayat theek lekin mirza nabi hai or rahega.

Quran main na to Eesa (as) ki wapsi or na Imam Mehdi k zikr to kya hooa, hadith to kehti hain k aisa hoqa

Quran kehta hai KhaatemunNabiyyeen lekin hm oss k ma'ney ye naheen layte.

Mohammed (saws) ne kaha: ﺃﻨﺎﺧﺎﺗﻢﺍﺍﻠﻨﺒﻳﻥﻮﻻﻨﺒﻲﺒﻌﺩﻱ to oss se kya hooa, hm jo ma'ney krte hain wo sahih hain.

hamare nabi k mutabiq hr wo shakhs jo mirza pr eeman na laae: kafir

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@Luqmanb04

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to na manain. Jahan tk Islam or musselmanon ka a'qeeda hai to wo mirza ko kabhi bhi nabi naheen manenge.

aap ka apna deen musselmanon ka apna deen. app k apne KhII ne aapko ghair muslim qarar diya 1946 main Gurdaspur main to phy agar 1974 main makka main Rabiatul Islam ne aap ko ghain muslim qarar diys to pehle aap apne Kh se baat karain oss k b'ad musselmanon se.

jahan tk musselmanon k a'qeede ka ta'lluq hai to wo aap ko ma'loom hai or 1400 saal se hai.

aap taweelat pr taweelat 

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@Luqmanb04

Ghamdi ka itlaq aap ghalat ma'ni main leyte hain. on k moa'quf mirza k oopr kiyon naheen byan krte k wo kisi tareeqe pr kisi nabi k aaney ko naheen mantey. yehe to musibat hai k app sirf wohee baat krte hain jo aap k maqsad k hmklm ho.

ye he musibat mirz ki hai: torrh marrhorrh kr paish krna.

ek seedhi se baat hai: KHAATEMUNABIYEEN. sari ummate muslima iss ka ek hi matlab or ma'ni leyti hai siwai aap k.

baat khatam.

iss main behess ki gunjaish hai he naheen.

agar aap naheen mantey

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04

1, 2, & 3

40: مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِنْ رِجَالِكُمْ وَلَٰكِنْ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمً

ﻻﺮﻳﺐﻔﻲﻻﻳﺎﺖﺍﻠﻘﺮﺍﻨﻳﱡﺔ

الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا وَالَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا بِآيَاتِنَا وَاسْتَكْبَرُوا عَنْهَا أُولَٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ

ﻮﻣﺎﺍﺮﺴﻠﻨﺎﻣﻦﺍﻠﺮﺴﻮﻞﺍﻵﺒﻠﺴﱠﺎﻦﺍﻠﻗﻮﻣ­ﻲ ﻫﺬﺍﺍﺩﻠﻴﻞﻻﻨﺒﻲﺒﻌﺩﺁﻤﺤﻤﱠﺩﻫﻮﺍﻠﺨﺎﺘﻢﺍ­ﻠﻨﺒﻴﱡﻥﻮﻻﺮﻴﺐﻓﻲ

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@Luqmanb04

laffazi or chaplose bekar.

40: مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِنْ رِجَالِكُمْ وَلَٰكِنْ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمًا Allah

ﺃﻨﺎﺧﺎﺗﻢﺍﺍﻠﻨﺒﻳﻥﻮﻻﻨﺒﻲﺒﻌﺩﻱ Allah ka rasool/nabi ka kehna oss ki sanad

phr aap kon hote main taweel krne wala.

mano ya mano ye aap k ikhtiyar main

Allah k hukm or oss k rasool/nabi ki sanad pr meen mainkh laga sirf jaheliyyat hai.

iss se barrth kr or kya suboot hai k Allah keh raha or oss ka nabi oss ki isnad.

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04 shaikh cilli apne ghr k samne gulab chchrrhak rahe thay. hmsae ne poochcha: mullah ye kya sheron ko bhaga raha hoon iss khittay main sher hote he naheen bhaag gae na NABUWWAT KA FAIZAN JAARI HAI, NABI HONE BND HO GAE : مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِنْ رِجَالِكُمْ وَلَٰكِنْ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ JB ﺧﺎﺘﻢﺍﻠﻨﺒﻴﻥ TO DAWAE NABUWWAT KA INKAR B MA'NI Luqman saheb ﻤﻌﺩﻮﻢ sheron ko mt bhagaiye mirza ki nabuwwat ka suboot Quran se dain

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@Luqmanb04

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khule or saaf alfaz main naheen to wo jhoota nabi. agar hai to wo sachcha Nabi or mujhe oss ki nubuwwat manni wajib hai.

main ye naheen kehta k agar wo jhoota nabi to aap oss ki perawi na karain. ye aap ka apna zaati mas'alan hai.

sirf ek aisi ayat dikhoe jo kehti ho k ba'dun mohammadun mirza ghulamin ahmadun nabi ullahe.

mozou ki ahmiyyat blkl ghair mubham suboot mangti hai.

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@Luqmanb04

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rakhte hain to iss se barrhi jahalat or kya hogi. aap k bojut saare channels ne mujhe block kr rakhkha hai iss k a'lawa muslim channels ne bhi muje block kr rakhkha hai. iss se mujhe koi farq naheen parrhta. ye oon ki nadani or km i'lmi hai.

mirza ne nabuwwat ko itna gira diya k ek Nabi ghalati kr sakta hai.

poore a'lame Islam ko chahiyya k iss mas'ale to hl kare: iss par ya oss par.

or jo bhi faisla ho oss pr a'mal ho.

jahan tk meri apni tehqeeq hai, mirza ek jhoota nabi hai.

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@Luqmanb04

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ZALZALA hai js ne A'lame Islam ko ulat palat kr k rakh diya or aap miskat or daith or jahil mullah ki baat kertay hain or mujh pr ilzam lagatay hain k main ne mirza ki tehreeron ko naheen parrha.

agar mujhe apni a'qbat ki fikr na hoti to main ek thania bhi mirza pr na lagata. main 99.9999999 fi sad mo'taqid hoon k wo jhoota nabi hai, lekin chonke moa'mla itna aham hai k main 0.0000001 fi sad pr bhi chance lane k liyye tayyar naheen.

itni aham baat ko aap log tarjume or mishkat pr

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@Luqmanb04

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ma'loom naheen aap mirza k dawae nubuwwat ko samajhte hain ya naheen. iss se aham koi or baat Islam main hai he naheen. iss se barrh kr or kya mozou Islam main ho sakta hai k ek shakhs Islam k bunyad ko badal raha hai js pr Islam ki i'marat hai.

or aap mishkat ki baat kertey hain. iss se ziyada kya juhul ho sakta hai.

ya to aap Islam se nawaqif ya aap mirza k dawae nabuwwat or oss ki ahmiyat se nawaqif.

ma'loom naheen k aap kis dunya main rehte hain. mirza k dawae nubuwwat ek

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@Luqmanb04

Luqman Saheb, main ne baat naheen badli. baat hai mirza saheb ki or oon k dawe ki.

Mullaon ki baat chchorain. apni baat karo. 2:200 ka mirza ki nabuwwat se kya ta'lluq hai? ye mishkat kahan se lay aae? Quran ki baat karo. aise aham mozou pr jo Aakherat ki baat kare oss main na to hadith or na riwayat or no mishkat.

Sirf Quran. or baatain jo itni aham naheen hain oss pr hadith riwayat or mishkat jaisi kitabon pr baat ho sakti hai.

KHATME NABUWWAT or Mishkat la hole wila quwwate

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04 4 ki jannat main reh rahe hain k aap suchey or hm sb jhoote. are paglo parrho to sahih Quran ko. Islam main Allah ka Nabi ma'soom hai: anNajm 54: 2: مَا ضَلَّ صَاحِبُكُمْ وَمَا غَوَىٰ 3: وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَىٰ 4: إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَىٰ 5: عَلَّمَهُ شَدِيدُ الْقُوَىٰ main ne bila mubalgha 500 se zaaed safahat RK parrhe hain. chchorrhiye inn baaton ko. khkharrh khail farrukhabadi..mirza nabi ya naheen agar wo Nabi hai to Muslim naheen ho sakta. wo sb kuch hosakta hai

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@Luqmanb04 2 naheen diya ye kya aurton ki terha lanat or kosne daytey ho. are mrdon ki terha baat karo. ghalat ya sahih, ye baat hoti hai. kya aap ne ye parrha or inn ki baat suni. lanat bhejo kehne walon pr. baat karo k wo kya keh raha hai ye kehna k ye sb jhoot hai baghair suboot k blko jahalat hai. or ye kehna k main inn ki baatain sun kr kehta hoon to kya hooa baat ki baat karo kya mirza ne apne aap ko khuda samjha or yaqeen kya k wo khuda hai. iss ki terdeed karo. mere pass mirzaiyon ka

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@saldoczaidi 3 byan hai. Kashf k lubade main. or oss k ba'd oss ne tauba bhi naheen ki. La hole.. mirza saf chchupte bhi naheen samne aatey bhi naheen ye kya prda hai k chilman se lagey baitthey hain are mrdon ki terha kaho k wo Nabi hai or hm oss ko Nabi maantey hain. bharrh main jaaen musselman or oon k a'qeedae KHATME NABUWWAT. ye kya taweelat or tafseerat ki baat hai Quran Quran hai. oss k jo matlab hai wo blkl saaf hain. jahil hain wo jo oss k ma'ni ko badaltey hain. aap log firaoon

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@Luqmanb04

Janabe Luqman saheb, in ki baat naheen, ye jo keh rahe hain oss ki baat karo. inn k jo hawale hain oss ki baat karo. sb se barrhi muskhil to ye hai k aap in hawalon ki terdeed naheen krtay

agar ye ghalat hain to sahih waley dikhao

lanat bhejna aurton k kam hai

mrdon ki baat karo.

takfeer to mirza ne ki

main ne aap ko hawala diya aap ne oss ka koi jawab naheen diya

takfir KhII ne ki, oss ka koi jawab aap ne naheen diya

Kh IV jhoot bola ya Kh V ne aap ki ta'dad pr, aap ne koin jawab

[zubairgermany2]

@saldoczaidi

یہاں تک کہ آنحضرت ﷺ اپنے جسد عنصری (جسم) سے تعقل پیدا کر کے جلوہ گر ہوئے اور دائرہ نبوّت کو ختم کیا۔ اس کے بعد حضرت ابوبکر صدیقؓ میں بروز فرمایا ہے پھر حضرت عمرؓ میں بروز فرمایا پھ

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@zubairgermany2

are baba tm log kya blkul he pagal ho k maroon ghtna phoote aankh

mirza ka Islam se kya ta'lluq, wo to Yallash k bheja hooa Nabi hai

ye tm logon ne jo dhong rachaya hai iss ka bhandha to an phootega jb logon ko tmhari assliyyat k pata chale ga or chlna shroo hogaya hai.

kitnay mirzai musselman bn rahe hain

3,000 mirzai India main or 30,000 Mali main jn ko dhoka deyker mirzai babaya tha.

tm logon ka jhoot ab sb pr sabit ho raha

tmhari haqeeqt logon pr tmhare logon pr bhi roshan

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@zubairgermany2

2

A'KS kehta hai. Wo itna bewaqoof hai k wo naheen janta k A'KS main her cheeze ULTI hoti hai. (REFLECTION IS OPPOSITE OF THE ORIGINAL) Iss terha Mirza main wo saari buraiyyan hain jo Mohammed (saws) main achchaiyan theen.

are jahilo tm ye seedhi see baat naheen samajhte or apne aap ko SACHCHA MUSSELMAN kehte ho, la hole wila.

dekho apni shakl aainey main. deedhi ankh ulti, seedha hath ulta or seedh kaan ulta.

her cheez jo seedhi taraf hai wo ulti taraf ho jati hai.

[zubairgermany2]

@saldoczaidi اخبار ’’ صادق الاخبار

’’مرزا صاحب نے اپنی پر زور تقاریر اور شاندار تصانیف سے مخالفین اسلام کو ان کے لچّر اعتراضات کے دندان شکن جواب دے کر ہمیشہ کے لئے ساکت کر دیا اور ثابت کر دکھایا ہے کہ حق حق ہی ہے۔ اور واقعی مرزا صاحب نے حق ، حمایتِ اسلام کا کماحقّہٗ ، ادا کر کے خدمتِ اسلام میں کوئی دقیقہ فروگذاشت نہیں کیا۔ انصاف متقاضی ہے کہ ایسے اولوالعزم حامی اسلام اور معینُ المسلمین ، فاضل اجل ، عالم بے بدل کی ناگہانی موت اور بے وقت موت پر افسوس کیا جائے۔‘ صادق الاخبار۔ ریواڑی جون ۱۹۰۸ء

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@zubairgermany2

3

naheen, oos k kehne sa kya hota hai. Ummate Muslima k or Quran k kehna iss bewaqoof k kehne pr matrook naheen ho sakt or no hoga. mirzai musselman naheen hain or wo jb Islam k naam pr logon ko dhoka or fareb detay rahaingay musselman oon k dushman rahaingay.

iss main bhess ki koi gunjaish hai he naheen.

aap log musselman oss waqt tk naheen ho sakte jb tk aap mirza ko nabi maantey rahaingay.

iss k a'lawa hmari or aap ki koi dushmani naheen hai. aap hmare bhai / behen hain.

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@zubairgermany2

2

oss ko ma'loom tha k oss ka kya wo hee hasher hoga jo ed jhoote nabi ka hota hai: mussaelma ka jo hashar hooa wo tareekh main maujood hai.

baat is ki naheen, baat hai k mirza k hawari apne aap ko musselmaan kyon kehte hain? agar wo apne aap ko mirzai kahain jaise Bahai hain to musselman oon k saath khairsagali ka risht rakhaingay.

Islam musselmanon ka deen hai or wo oss ki hifazat apni jaan o maal se krtay rahe aae hain or krtay rahaingay. ek jahil js ko Islam k pata.

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@zubairgermany2

Islam main pehle kisi ne Islam k dushman k bl bootey pr nabuwwat k dawa naheen kya.

Iran main aisa hooa to da'wedar ko maut ki saza mili. agar mirza kisi bhe Islami ryasat mein jata to oss k bhi yehi halat. khair guzri k wo apne A'aqaon ki hudood se bahar naheen nikla or aaj bhi oss naam nehad Kh malkae brtaniyya k tahaffuz main hain. kaash wo Afghanistan k ameer k da'we pr Afghanistan chala jata to aaj ye fitna na hota?

oss ne kisi musselman ryasat k under qadam naheen rakh.

[zubairgermany2]

@saldoczaidi

مولوی منظور احمد چنیوٹی صاحب نے ایک انٹرویو میں کہا:۔

’’ہر قادیانی اپنی آمدنی کا دسواں حصہ اپنے مذہب کی ترویج و اشاعت کے لئے قادیانی جماعت کو دیتا ہے، ہزاروں افراد اپنی جائیداد کے دسویں حصہ کے لئے وصیت کر چکے ہیں ۔۔۔۔۔۔ ۵لاکھ روپے فی گھنٹہ کے حساب سے قادیانی جماعت نے T.V لیا ہوا ہے۔ ۲۴گھنٹے T.V چینل چلتا ہے ہمارے پاس اتنے وسائل نہیں ہیں‘‘۔( ہفت روزہ وجود کراچی۔ جلد۲۔ ۲۲ تا ۲۸ نومبر۲۰۰۰ء۔ شمارہ ۴۷۔ صفحہ۳۱)

[zubairgermany2]

@saldoczaidi

مسلک اہل حدیث کا ترجمان ہفت روزہ الاعتصام لکھتا ہے:۔

’’ایک تجزےے کے مطابق دنیا میں موجود ہر قادیانی اپنی ماہوار آمدنی کا دس فیصد رضاکارانہ طور پر اپنے مذہب کی تبلیغ پر صرف کرتا ہے۔ کسی ہنگامی ضرورت پر خرچ کرنا اس کے علاوہ ہے انہی ماہانہ فنڈز کی بدولت اس وقت ایک مستقل T.V اور ریڈیو اسٹیشن قائم کیا جاچکا ہے جس سے چوبیس گھنٹے قادیانیت کا تبلیغی مشن جاری رہتا ہے‘‘۔(اداریہ از حافظ عبد الوحید۔ الاعتصام ۱۱ فروری ۲۰۰۰ء۔ جلد۵۲۔ شمارہ ۵۔ صفحہ۴)

[shaheena78]

@Luqmanb04 ..(2)..so dont argument 4 the sake of argument ..these are not common peace loving pakistani majority ,who r doing all this in pakistan ,these r only antipakistani agents including indians,israeli,americans and all non muslim powers including mirzai who dont want pakistan to be apeaceful country ,so dont behave like a stubborn child by askling me again and again the same question.mere mulk ke log boht sada or aman psund log hain ye to bahir ke log hain jo wahan skoon ni chahte ....

[shaheena78]

@Luqmanb04 ......mirzai are non muslims ,or unko itna bhi haq ni kh wo minorities ka derja hmare mulk main hasil kr sakain ,or doosri baat normal and common muslim kabhi bhi shia muslim ya kisi bhi doosre firke ki lrai main shamil ni hota everyone likes to spend their life peacefully and 90 % ppl in pakistan are common ppl ab ye swal kh ye bomb kon phorta hay or pakistan amin peace kion ni hay iska jawab main ki baar de chuki hoon

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@zubairgermany2

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banaya, musselmanon to tm ko ghair muslim haha April 1974 main Makka main, Rabiatul Islam ne, js main 150 se ziyade Ulemai Deen jo saare Musselman mulkon se aae thay.

are jahelo tm log ho abuJuhal ki auladon main se.

tm ko kuch naheen ma'loom or batwas krtay ho.

phr tmhare Kh IV ne ya to jhoot bola k tm log 20 caror ho or ya tmhare Kh V ne jhoot bola ki tm log 8 caror ho. Donon suchey naheen ho sakte. phr tmhari Jamat ne jhoot bola k tm 190 mulkom main se ho, are baba, tmhari

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@zubairgermany2

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Islam k bare main or kehte ho ke sahih Islam tmhara hai. are jahilo tmhara to eeman bhi trjume pr hai. asli Quraani ayat ko to mirza ne badal kr apne dawe ko sabit kiyya.

dikhao k kis jaga Quran me likha k Eesa wapis aaega or Imam Mehdi ka zuhoor hoga, dikhao

phr tmhare Kh II ne tm ko ghair muslim qarar diya to ab kyon rote ho. chhorrho Pakistan ko or Rabiatul Islam ko, dekho k tmhare apne Kh II ne tumhare saath kya kiyya hai..oss ne 1946 main Gurdapur main tm ko GHAIR MUSLIM

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@zubairgermany2

main Zaid bin Ali binul Hussain ki aulad main se hoon. main ne sirf IndoPak k musselmaanon ka zkr kiya, wo ummate muslima ki 1/3 hain. tm siwae oon k or kisi se waqif naheen.

Islam main 3 firqe hain or wo wrasit ki waja se, deen ki waja se naheen. deen sb ka ek hai. eeman sb ka ek hai, kitabl sb ki ek hai or farz sb ke ek hain sewai mirzaiyon k.

a'qaed agar Islam k khilaf naheen to honey do. oss se Islam main koi farq naheen parrhta.

tm log koen k maindak ho, jaante kuch naheen

[shaheena78]

@Luqmanb04 ...ap se kis ne kha kh ap log aala uhdon pr thay isliye pakistan ne taraqi ni ki?..na apke ala uhdon pr hone se pakistan ko farq perta hay na ap logon ke pakistan main na hone se koi farq perta hay coz aap logon ki itni awqat ni kh aap logon ki wajah se mear mulk berbad ho ..jahan tuk pakistan ki berbadi ka sawal ahy to wo bhi ap jaise logon ki herkat ahy antipakistanis are doing this coz they want to destroy pakistan jo kh inshallah kabhi ni hoga ap log jitni bhi koshish kr lain..

[zubairgermany2]

@saldoczaidi مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ اَبَآ اَحَدٍ مِّنْ رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلٰـكِنْ رَّسُوْلَ اللّٰهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيّٖنَ (الاحزاب :۴۰)

ترجمہ:۔ (از اہل سنت دیو بندی عالم محمود الحسن)’’محمد باپ نہیں کسی کا تمہارے مردوں میں سے لیکن رسول ہے اللہ کا اور مہر ہے سب نبیوں پر ‘‘

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04

or doosri baaton pr bhi tbsara karain. Shukriya

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@Luqmanb04

mera apna eeman hai k na koi masih aaega or no kisi imam mehdi k zuhoor hoga kiyon k Quran main iss ka koi zikr naheen hai. logon. ek musselman honey k liye inn ka manna zuroori naheen hai.

agar log iss pr yaqeen karain to oon ki apni mrzi. iss ka manney ya no manney se Islam main koi frq naheen prrhta.

srf nabuwwat ki baat hai. Islam main Nabi naheen ho sakta.

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04 KF se pehle Allah k mutabiq hr ek ko azadi hai is baat ki qiyamat tk. baat hai mirza ki nabuwwat ki oss k kirdar ki or oss k paigham ki wo kon hai oss k kiya kirdar hai or wo kya kehta iss ki baat hai wo kehta k wo Imam Mehdi or Masihe Maood hai donon ek main muesslemaan kehte hain k donon judagana wo kehta hai k Eesa mer gae oon ki qbr Kashmir main Japaniyon k pass Eesa (as) ki qbr mirza k kehne se pehle musselmanon k a'qeede k mutabiq Eesa (as) zinda wo kehta hai k wo Imam

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@Luqmanb04 ye meen mainkh kya laga rakhi hai? ye to wohee hai jo aap log KHAATEMUNNABIYYEEN main krtay hain arbi main ba;di seeghatul wahid hai. iss ka urdu main tarjuma "mere ba'd" nabiyyeka = tere ba'd, nahw wa qawaed ki roo se ye ek hkm hai. ye kiya zr zbr ki baat hai? ba;d se ba;di = mere ba'd ye he to museebat hai arbi ka na jannan Imkaane Nabuwwat ek jahilana kitab, bewaqoofi mazi or muzare pr. aisi bewaqoofi ki kitab main ne kabhi naheen parrhi. yustafi k muraze pr jb k wo haal hai

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@Luqmanb04

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Islami tareekh or deen hamari ghutti main hai. main ne bojut koshish ki hai mirza ko samajh ne ki.

jtna ziyada main ne oss ko parrha utna he main matanaffir ho gaya khas kr oss ki 2 batton se:

apni ghalati ko chchupane k liye oss ne nabiyon pr tuhmat lagai k wo bhi ghalati krtey hain

apne dawe k liyye oss ne Qurani Ayat ko tabdeel kiya

main ek musselman honey ki hassiyat se ye kabhi bhi berdasht naheen kr sakta.

iss moa'mle pr main kissi bhe surat pr koi hujjat naheen maan sakta

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04

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k a'in arrhe waqt pr apne logon ko chchorrth kr inglistan main ja betha. main ek seedha musselman hoon or koshish krta hoon k Islam k raaste pr chalon. Fiqh Zaidiyya sb se purana Figh hai. ye Fiqh Hanafia se bhi pehle hai. Zaid ibne Ali se pehle koi Fiqh naheen tha. Zaid ibne Ali binul Hussain pehla a'lim tha js ne Fiqh terteeb kiya. Hanafia or Ja'fferiya ba'd main murattab hooey. hindpak k zaidi wasti hain. zaid k zaidi yeman, iran, misr, algeria, Mecca / Medina or Iraq main hain.

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04

janabe luqman saheb. Islam sirf ek deen hi naheen. iss main siasat, ma'ashrat, teknique or mashiat sb mil gaen hai. Islam ek mukammal nizame hayat hai. ek Muslim ye naheen keh sakta k main sirf mazhabi hoon. Islam dunya ko tj deney k bilkul khilaf hai. Khair ye mozoue bahess naheen hai.

ma'zrat k saath, aap k kh ko koi gazand or dhmki naheen thi. agar wo succhey hotey to Qadian main ja kr rehte, malka ki gode main naheen. agar main mirzai hota to iss baat pr main lanat bhejta.

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@Luqmanb04

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Baluchistan warrant the active presence of the West in these areas lest the Russian Bear tries to grab it. "A poor man's pretty wife serves the rich headman amicably"

Neither Pakistan nor Afghanistan shall ever be left alone to pursue an independent path. They both shall be given enough so as not to have a revolution. Only India with China can thwart the West and have peace and tranquillity. jb tk maghrib ki mirri hai ye naheen ho sakta.

sadly mirzai are with the West. .

[Luqmanb04]

@saldoczaidi

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aaj alme-e-islam ka jo hal hai kya ahmadi yah sab karte hain ? pakistan main to kalima tayyaba .bismilla.salam .azan. jalsa. ijtima.tabligh .apne aap ko musalman kahne tak pabandi lagai hui hai ..ahmadi to har taraf sai majboor hain har taraf sai tang kia hua hai ..

pakistan kai halat to sudharne chahia ki nahi ??

magar pasti in ki kismat main allah nai likh di hai nakami aur na muradi in ka nasib hai..

larte marte hai har firka wale badnam farhad !! wah hazrat wah..

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@Luqmanb04

a'alame Islam ki halat aaj kl se hazar guna behter hai or kl or behter hogi. aap ke Kh II ki musselmanon k saath ghaddari ne Gurdaspur jaisa aham shehr hindustan ko dey diya. aap mera monh na khulwaiyye.

jo ho gaya so ho gaya. Pakistan ki baat rehne dain, mirza ki baat karein.siasat deen ka bohut aham hissa hai

juda ho deen siasat se to reh jaati hai chungezi.

asal baat ye hai k mirzaiyon or angrezon main ye gath jorrh thi k Kashmir mirzaiyon ko mil jaaega. (Kashmir Chalo).

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@Luqmanb04

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Kashmir agar mirzaiyon ko miley to wahan pr ek LISTENING POST qaaem ho jo India, China, Afghanista or Russia pr nazar rakhe. meri Urdu itni achchi naheen hai.

The whole house of cards came tumbling down due to the foresight of Wallabh bhai Patel. He was the brains. He went along until after the counting. Then he told the English to get lost. Nehru was a Nationalist and a great Politician. Muslims and Mirzai lost Kashmir. Mahmood as opposed to his father was a gung ho, sharp shooter

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@Luqmanb04

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from the hip. By his antagonistic attitude he distanced educated Muslims who were the backbone of the Jamaat's support. The rest is history. You can read it.

The present situation is very worrisome for Mirzai. Their total population is around 6m, the same as the Bahai. More than 4m live in Pakistan, 1m in India and the 2m around the world.

Mirzai are spending huge sums in advertising not to thwart the plight but to attract the West to accept them as the representative of Muslims.

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@Luqmanb04

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The West, as usual, using them to offset the upsurge of Islam and Muslims. There are 25m Muslims in European Union. When Turkey joins the EU, it shall escalate to almost 100m, one sixth. EU is very keen on making Kh V the sole representative of the Muslim Community at large so they can manipulate Muslims. The last gesture of KhV sending Christmas greetings to the Pope orchestrated by the Israeli, was hoped to make it happen. Muslims in Europe were outrages and thwarted it.

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@Luqmanb04

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The West, as usual, using them to offset the upsurge of Islam and Muslims. There are 25m Muslims in EU. When Turkey joins it, it shall escalate to almost 100m, one sixth. EU is very keen on making Kh V the sole representative of the Muslim Community at large so they can manipulate Muslims. The last gesture of Kh V sending Christmas greetings to the Pope orchestrated by the Israeli, was hoped to make it happen. Muslims in Europe were outrages and thwarted it.

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@Luqmanb04

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Orthodox Christians and Conservative Catholics did neither liked nor approved. The raz ma tazz fizzled.

The future does not look good for either, at least for the next 30 years.

Individual Muslims are excelling in all fields. Collectively they are still dispersed. I don't see any significant change in either the West towards Muslims or Muslims towards West. Hatred towards the West among Muslims is growing and shall continue. Muslims are gaining more and more control.

[Luqmanb04]

@saldoczaidi

HAIRAN HUN DIL KO ROU KAI PITU JIGAR KO MAIN ..

MAKDOOR HUN TO SATH RAKHU NOHA GAR KO MAIN..

aap jaise suljhe huai insan ki soch agar is tarah ki hai to yahi kahna parta hai..

TUMHARI TAHZEEB APNE KHANJAR SAI AAP HI KHUDKUSHI KAREGI..

JO SHKH-E-NAZUKH PAR AASHIANA BANE GA NA PAIDAR HOGA..

aap mujh ko woh ayat batae jis main kissi nabi ko hukumat kai lia maboos farmaya gaya ho..

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@Luqmanb04

ma'zrat k saath, aap pata naheen kiss dunya or waqt main reh rahain hain. yeh jehad ko kahan se ghusairrh diya. baat hai Mirza ki nabuwwat ki. oss k bayan k mutabiq oss ko nubuwwat mili Muhammed (saws) k tufail se, to phr Chiragh Deen ko nabuwwat mili Mirza k tufail. Ya to donon Nabi ya koi bhi naheen. pehle oss ko nabi to banao phr oss ki baaton ki baat karo.

wrna ye sb dhakosla hai paisa kamaney k liyye.

jamaate ahmadiyya deeni jamaat naheen hai

ye bhe ek gaddi nasheeni hai

[Luqmanb04]

@saldoczaidi

rahne dain zaidi sahib ..

aap to baat kar rahe the hukumat ki iktidar ki..

baqi aap kai in sawalo ka jawab main daichuka hun..

aap to kah rahe the kai islam ka hukumat sai talluq hai hukumat kai lia islam hai..ab baat badal di ..

yahi karte hain aap jab aap ko mudallal jawab milta hai to aap mouzu hi badal daite hain..

AAP KHALIS DUNIADAR HAIN FAQT..

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@Luqmanb04

hukomat Islam k liyye hai, Islam hukomat k liyye naheen.

aap ne mere swalat k jawab to diya lekin oss ki koi tadleel naheen. ye kehna k mirza nabi hai, kaafi naheen. Allah ne oss ko nabi kaha lekin Allah ne mujhe ye naheen kaha k wo nabi hai Mohammed (saws) k sb se pehla shahid khudaija (ra) ka a'mzad Mecca k Bishop Noufal tha. Wo eeman naheen laya lekin oss ne gawahi di k Mohammad (saws) Nabi hai.

jb k Mohammed (saws) kehtey hain :la nabiyya ba'di' or aap kehtey hain mirza nabi

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@Luqmanb04

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mirza nabi hai to main kiss ki baat maanon?

Quran kehta hai Eesa ibne Mariam, Mirza ibne Chiragh Bibi

Eesa k koi baap naheen, Mirza ka baap Ghulam Murtaza

Mohammed (saws) ki kunniyyat Ameen, Mirza k kunniyyat Chunya

Quran kehta hai jdl haqq k liyye, Mirza jdl ko mansookh kerta hai

Musselmaanon ki Ahadith keti haim k Imam Mehdi ka naam Mohammed or wo Mohammed (saws) ki Nasl se hoga, Mirza kabhi Farsi kabhi Mughul

Who is Imam Mahdi and when will he come by Sheikh Imran Hosein

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@Luqmanb04

2

Islam k pehle 3 khulafa bani Hashem main se naheen thay.

Jehad Islam k ek farz hai. ek musslemaan ka farz hai k wo Haqq k liyye Jdl karey. Jdl to ek fasiq muslim hakem k khilaf bhi farz. ek muslim k ye farz hai k wo batil k khilaf jdl karey.

parrho Islam ko. or maudodi jaise logon ki baat na karo. wo to maghrib ka pitthoo tha.

IndoPak ke musselmaan to sirf kooen k maindak hain. Islami dunya wasi' hai. bahar niklo phr pata chalta hai.

Qahira, Baghdad, Qom ki daragahon main jao or

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@Luqmanb04

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dekho k Islam kya hai? ye ek deen hai js ne insan ko pundaton, murabbion, padrion k chungle se azad kr k dirct risht qaaem kr diya a'bid or ma'bood k dermian.

hindustani musselmanon ne pehle or mirza ne iss deen ka sattiya nas kr diya.

sb se pehle sofiyoon ne phr hindustan k auliyaoon iss deen ko masakh kr diya.

Islam ek seedha deen hai. Quran ek blkl seedhi kitab hai.

qiyamusSalata wa aataituzZakata do aham farz hain. QAAEM KARO SALAT OR DO ZAKAT.

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@Luqmanb04

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thugs, barely literate, cannot conceive, organize & execute.

911, if not an inside job, makes the mockery of US Surveillance that gobbles billions of dollars every year. A deviation of 5 degrees within the flight path filed shall bring 2 menacing looking fighter jets to correct the course, if the pilot does not heed to communication tower.

West cannot leave Pakistan/Afghanistan due the the recently discovered humongous Cobalt Deposits in Afghanistan that might also run into

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@Luqmanb04

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ho raha hai? Pakistan ki dahshat grdi main Maghrib or India k haath or India ki dehshat girdi main Pakistan of Maghrib k haath.

Pakistan alone is not capable to conceive, organize and execute Bombay's massacre. The sheer magnitude to smuggle, store, train and execute an incident of this magnitude could not have been hidden from the snoopy eyes of Journalists, Satellite Observation and gigantic Computers sniffing the Data and Surveillance Apparatus of India. A bunch of young

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@Luqmanb04

4

IndoPak ki dehshat grdi main barrhi taqaton ka bohut barrha haath hai. iss ki do barrhi wujuhat hain. pehli to ye hai k divide et regnare doosri kuch logon ki inteha pasandi or khud gharzi. West keeps Pakistan to needle India. It supports India to needle China. ye haqeeqat hai chahe koi maaney ya no maaney. Forensic Science main jb ek qatl hota hai to sb se pehla sawal otthta hai kiss ko faida hooa. iss zaman pr mbni dekho k iss dehshat girdi se kiss ko ya kin ko faida hooa ya

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@Luqmanb04

3

hai Nehru ka Comsomol main shimuliyyat. Na birtania, no amrica or no europe ye qubool krta k India Roos ki godi main batthta. agar ye hota to bohairaey arab or khaleeje bangal donon Roos k pass hojatay. tael allah hafiz or tijarat k raasta birtania ki colonies ko mahdood blke khatam. iss liyye Pakistan ko do jaga banaya gaya.

Nehru ek bohut a'zeem shakhsiyyat hai. wo naheen brdasht krta k maghrabi gund India pr phenko or India ki ma'dniyat korrhi k dam maghrib ko milay.

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@Luqmanb04

2

India ne na oss waqt or na ab Pakistan ko tasleem naheen kiyya hai. iss main main oon k saath hoon. India ki taqseem ek hindustani k liyye qubool krna na mumkin hai. koi shehri apne mulk ki taqseem naheen chahta. apni jaan deney pr tayyar hota hai lekin mulk ki taqseem pr naheen. ye wafadari hr shehri ka farz hai. Pakistan kyon bana? Oss ki sb se behter explanation Jaswant Singh ki kitab Jinnah main milta hai. Oss main ek report hai jo FM Auchinlick ne HM ko bheji thi. oss ka passe

[saldoczaidi]

@Luqmanb04

Shaheena ki baat main kuch haqeeqat hai. Pakistan inn teenon ki aankh main khatakta hai. oss k wojuhat paicheeda hain. ek nazar se Pakistan nakamyab lekin doosri nazar se Pakistan bohut kamiyab hai.

Pakistan ne hindustan k muqable main ziyada traqqi ki hai.1947 main Pakistan k pass kuch bhi naheen tha. India k pass sb kuch tha phr bhi India ne Pakistan k jo haqq tha wo bhi deney se inkar kr diya. agar Ghandhiji maran barat na rakhte to Indian Pakistan ko oss k haqq na deta.

[saldoczaidi]

4

mirzaiyon ki baat chchorrho, musselman bano. ek MIllaat bano. jb tm ek ho jaogay to mirzai bhi musselman ban jaengey wrna ye he naheen or bohut se fitne paida hongay.

nahno nosabheho wa nuqaddeso lk

[Luqmanb04]

@saldoczaidi

aap sai mutafiq hun main zaidi sahib ..jazakallah..

[saldoczaidi]

3

dekhao ek hadith jo amir muawiyya ne likhi ho ya or sahaba ya tabe'en ne likhi ho. dekho ek hadith. ye sb parrhe likhe log thay. Othman (ra) ne jb Quran ko likwaya or oss ko bjeja to haith kyon naheen likhi or bheji.

khutbaate Ali (ra) hain, oss main kyon hadith ka koi zkr kyon naheen hai.

pehle musselmaan banon. Islam ek Deen hai, Quran ek kitab hai to tm log oss ko to parrhte naheen, mishkat or bukhari ki baat krtay ho. hr hindopak k musselmaan jahil hai jo Quran ko naheen samajhta.

[saldoczaidi]

2

tm sb firqon main batey hooe ho. tm sabhi kutch ho pr musselman naheen. Mohammed (saws) kiss firqe se ta'lluq rakhte thay? Hussain (ra) k konsa firqa tha? are mardoodo tm pr Allah ki la'nat hai k tm Islam k naam pr qbroon, auliaon, peeron ki pooja krte ho or apne aap ko musselman kehto, sharm naheen ketay. mirzai zindeeq hain pr musselman lagtey hain tm musselman ho kr bhe musselmanon ka kaam naheen krtey. Caroron Ahadith, lakhon Sunnatain, are paglo, ek hadith dekho jo abuBakr (ra) ne lekhi

[saldoczaidi]

ye sb laffazi hai. mirzaiyon ka urooj musselmanon ki be behergi or aap jaise Mullaon ki waja se hooa. aap khud Islam ki ta'leem se be behra hoo chukey hain. pehle apne aap ko saubhalo, musselman bano phr inn ki taraf ruju ho. HindoPak ka aaj ka musselman bida'ton or kharafat main jakrrha hooa hai. ek se ek darrhial apni kharafat or bakwas krta hai Islam k nanm pr.

are jahelo pehle apne aap ko sudharo phy kisi or ki baat krna.

1.57bn muslim ek zarra braber jamaat ko kuchh naheen kr sakte.

[shaheena78]

so plz stop behaving like ignorant prhay likhay jahil jinko sara kuch nazar bhi arha hay still they r denying it and ..or sath amin logon ko gumrah bhi kr rhay hain apne pass se her information ko doosra matlab de kr...(to all qadyanis)

[shaheena78]

mr luqman....u know whats the problm with ahmadis like u...they mold the information abt islam according to their desire.pakistan ka jo haal hay wo ap jaise aqeeda rakhne wale logon ki wajah se hi hay or un gunday politicians ,indian american or israeli secret powers ki wajah se hay noty because of jihad which u r saying ..or ap se kis ne kha kh muslmano ne sirf defai jung lri ?are u mad islam main jihad sirf islam ka naam buland krne ke liye kia gea apna defa krne ke liye nai.

[Luqmanb04]

hum phir kahte hain :: ab chor do jihad ka aai dosto khayal deen kai lia haram hai ab jangh aur kital ::(mirza gulam ahmad as) rasool-e-arabi khatamul anbia saw nai siraf difay jangay lare ;; aap log katlo garat ko jihad kahte hain !!!! quran ki haqiqi talim sai na ashna hain ... tabhi to pakistan ka yah hal hai ... kiun nahi awam ko sakoon sai jene daete ?? ghurbat had sai zayada hai pak main.. tabahi kai dhaer par khara hai pak . yah jihadi khayal ka hi natija hai