Everyone makes their own choices and God did do everything He could to save us by sending His owne Son Jesus who was in His esence God He healed people from all their scknesses even mentally ill people and demond possed people. He forgave His enemies even on the cross, where He went willingly, to shed His blood as a final and only acceptable sacrific for the sins of the whole world, you have a choice belive and be saved or choose to not believe and perish. we choose our eternal destiny
@sarashitzu I cannot believe in a being that would send peoples souls to hell purely for the fact that the person did not believe in them, or believed in something else. IMHO that is the definition of a demon. A being that does not forgive, a being so vain as to punish those that don't believe in what there is no proof to believe in. A being that allows innocent children to suffer. This is why I cannot take what you typed here as anything but lies.
God doesn't send you to hell. You do. You send yourself to hell for denying and defying JESUS CHRIST. God wants you out of hell so bad that He sacrificed his son, Jesus Christ, to get you into heaven. However, God doesn't send you to hell, He cannot accept anyone into heaven who denies The Christ.
when we are born or when we are in the womb we are atheist, if a misscarrage occurs the baby will go to hell, and if a new born dies they also go to hell! are they denying god?
@uniqueeccentric So God is basically holding a shotgun to my head and saying, "don't make me shoot you". I don't believe in God because I don't see that there's evidence to justify such a belief. If that makes me evil and deserving of eternal torture, then your belief system is vile and corrupt.
I hear this claim made repeatedly. The truth is evidence of God is literally everywhere. The things that are created reveal the traits and attributes of the creator.
When you marvel at advanced technology you are seeing the brilliance of the scientists and engineers that have constructed it It's a reflection of them whether you know them or not. The human body is vastly superior to anything man will ever create and is a reflection of his creator.
@MadeAlivestudio Try to solve 3452563456 x 457647567 without the help of a computer or calculator and then come back to me. Man's not "vastly superior" to everything in every regard. Furthermore, all you're giving me is claims, not evidence. You claim evidence is everywhere, but I don't find it anywhere. If you're going to claim man was created, well, you need evidence to back up that claim.
There are people that can do just that. One man I've heard even trained himself to do that. Second, the evidence I was talking about is creation itself. Think about this, you have trillions of parts in your own body all working together to keep you alive!. Complex systems, libraries of information, dna that is comparable to computer programming, etc. A computer exhibits all this on a much smaller scale. Surely you wouldn't say the computer made itself.
@MadeAlivestudio Sorry, but complexity doesn't nessecarily mean design. Naturally occuring objects can be "complex" too. Crystals, for example, are complex structures made of billions of atoms. And man-made objects can be relatively simple, like a plank... just a piece of wood carved into a rectangular shape. Again, I'm not seeing any kind of convincing evidence for creation, and certainly not any evidence for creation by the Christian god.
There are people who want to see the evidence and there are others who really don't.
In seeing the truth, it will in turn create alot of problems for that individual. Suddenly, they'll have to confront issues like hell, sin, and eternal damnation. So it's easier to simply say there is no evidence. As long aas we can convince ourselves and then get in a group where everyone else is saying that as well, it helps to make the delusion more real. However......
@MadeAlivestudio I don't know what to say. I really don't see any evidence of a creator, much less your particuliar god. If all you've got in return is "you're a liar", then I don't see a point in debating with you further. It's a shame, because I thought we were actually getting into a decent conversation.
God has made things very plain. So plain in fact that no man will have an excuse in the end. The human body showcases specificity, purpose and reason. There's reasons behind the various systems and functions of your body. There's a reason why you have lungs that breath oxygen, there's a reason why you have blood. Random chance, does not beget order or purpose, it begets disorder and randomness. The proof of God is in the things that are made.
FightingAtheist - While you're into the issue of morality, consider the brutality of your own belief - the indifference toward an unmerited, painful death as you are torn and devoured as food for a stronger organism. All of what you consider your life is annihilated, but worse still, was only an illusion; the spark brought about by biological processes over which you have no control nor ownership - and of which there is no value except as seen through the eyes of those in the same boat as you.
FightingAtheist - an interesting commentary, especially given that God made the greatest possible sacrifice toward saving said people from hell. God arbitrarily choose to create all life and said that it was good to do so - which it was. Those who are in hell are those who reject God. You have positioned yourself so as to reject God; would you then blame Him for allowing you to enter hell? By what moral authority do you appeal?
@eatyerbeans What sacrifice? Killing himself and resurecting himself to 'save' people from the rules he set up in the first place? In the christian fable, god sends people to hell because he has the power not to, but chooses to do so anyway. Therefore, he is evil.
Of course, none of this really matters because god doesn't exist. Neither do Thor or Zeus or Allah. Its all just made up nonsense childrens' stories.
@AtomicMonster733 It's too bad then, that these sinful men have committed these crimes because they were instructed to by the teachings of the religious doctrines. In the example of Christianity; the Bible endorses rape, genocide, slavery, misogyny and homophobia. I don't see this as a good thing, when the religious teachings are taken to be literal moral guidelines to follow.
Misogyny of God who created women with just about every advantage in the way of development, fine motor skills, flexibility, intelligence, etc... not to mention the astounding physical ability to give birth? Motherhood is the highest office of humanity - through which not one came into this world even to God incarnate Himself in the person of Jesus. Not bad compensation for a little specification in the social order - of which we have probably never experienced the true intent.
@eatyerbeans It's a different context. Misogyny occurred because women were treated as second class citizens, not because they were biologically inferior. It's stated explicitly within the Bible that 'women should have no authority over men, and they must be silent because Adam was created first'. On a moral ground, that's blatant discrimination to treat women lesser than that of men.
This has yet to touch on the atrocious amounts of rape the Bible endorses. I don't view it was outweighed.
God gave you a free will and you can choose heaven!!!
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I think the evidence is that God is good. For what we term our conscience is best understood as a sense of what God approves/disapproves of. In other words, 'morality' is best understood as that which God approves of. Given that God likely instantiates the very character traits he approves of, then God likely approves of himself, and is thus good.
If there is a God then surely he would make it possible for us to use reason to find the truth. So if there is a God then reason or logic will lead us to the truth The only thing is we need to be sure that we keep an open mind and accept the truth when it has presented itself to us Also that we reason in the right direction and not let ourselfs try to steer in the way we want it to be As this will lead us away from the truth But to allow it to go where ever it it takes us.
@ZeusHelios God who created the universe and people think you can understand
his ways? To use reason to find the truth is like using a guitar to make piano sounds.
God is truth. Reason is based on our understanding and mankind does not understand how the world operates and cannot solve the problems of poverty and sickness.
@Yah023weh To use reason is exactly what God wants, it's why he gave it to us. Reason is what helps dictate our 'free will', we don't do things for no reason.
Why does God punish us for exercising his gift he wants us to use? Why is it, when Adam and Eve decided to NOT be robots and use their free will to listen to Satan God got so pissed off? Because he intended for us to act like robots without being robots.
@kaminohanshin I see your very good point. But I think the difference is that we have free choice to choose Gods WILL or our OWN And unfortunately Adam chose his own You see choosing our own will meant doing our own things. And when we do that we have problems as everyone wants to do their own thing. Doing Gods will would have saved us from this fall and all the problems it causes. And we would have continued in Gods ways. Our own will has caused wars greed etc and so many other problems
@kaminohanshin I dont know why God punished Adam I guess because he failed to do Gods will. Which would have been better for all of us and there would have always been peace on earth Plus he was warned and yet Adam ignored the warning Adam knew the consequences yet ignored them But instead Adam chose his own will and brought about a fall in humanity which brought about all the evil. And sin that has inherited us all. Making choices brings consequences Good or bad.
@Yah023weh I agree with most of your comment But disagree with the reason side. I think God gave us the ability to reason and without it we could not have free will. How can we know truth without reason Surely God does not want us to accept what we are told After all we are tod lots of things How then do we decide what is true and false. God gave us the ablty to rerason and therefore he would have left a trail of reason for us to seek and to follow to find the truth which will speak for itself
I have asked the same questions and said the same things. That's whats good about YouTube. We can all share our thoughts even if they are the same And the fact that they are sometimes the same thoughts as others proves we can all use reason to find the truth. And the more we use reason and spread it here the more we can free others from a closed mind and help them to question and also to start using reason to find the real truth of things.
They actually think there is an imaginary man in the sky (snicker)..how sad....
What a bunch of uneducated fools...! Atheism is the only way to world peace!
There is no god...There is no afterlife...You are on your own.... When you die, your body will just rot into the ground, and you will become worm food.
This is the truth...Stop deluding yourself with weird medieval superstitions!
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Gay people choose to live the gay lifestyle. No other person or entity has chosen adopt that lifestyle for them. The Bible states God made humans male and female. There is nothing in between.
@mpmg64 As a lesbian, I can honestly say I never had a choice. Do you really think someone would chose to go through the pain and struggle it is to be gay? Coming out is terrible. People will hate you because an ancient book says its wrong. Many species of animals can be gay. Animals have the power of choice? Not according to the Bible.You have a flawed argument based on a lack of understanding of now only homosexuality but of nature. Have you never heard of the gay gene?
Human beings send themselves to hell when they choose to serve their own desires and purposes, rather than God's. We choose our final destination. Our loving God will never violate our free will if we have to no desire to love and serve Him.
@mpmg64 So youre saying that humans with free will are more aware of their fates than their creator? Allegedly, God knew you were going to be born before he created the universe. He knew everything about you. Therefore, we are not free, and have no will, because our fates have already been plotted out before us without our consent or knowledge.
God made gay people... he hates them for how they are and will send all of them to hell... This ONE thing right here is one of the countless reasons why Christianity is bullshit. Seriously, bravo Christianity for brainwashing your followers into homophobes cause 'god hates it'.
@Terdmissle9 See what is odd is that there is only one mentioning of homosexuals in that book. "A man shall not lay down with another man". Was it in the Book of Peter? Yes I think so. Peter was the founder of the Catholic Church, and what he was specifically discussing was the hedonism of Rome, not homosexuals specifically.
@overusedoxymoron2003 another thing that is odd is that God hates shrimp... yes, shrimp.. and declares that anyone who eats it or any water living creature without scales to be an 'abomination to society"... If you dont believe me, google it, it cites it from the bible itself, the very book Christians worship, believe is 100% real, and know nothing about.
My theory- God is real, but the only thing he ever did was cause the big bang, as there is now explanation to how the big bang occured, and he did this most likely due to boredom. After that, he sat back and watched the universe grow and still does today. He doesn't do shit for us, and doesn't care what we do.
@Polarbomb15 But why even attribute that much to him? It's like going "...well, I guess it's basically been disproven that 'God' has done any of the things that we now understand, so let's attribute to it one of the things that we are still not certain about!"
Is anything gained from that? Where would we all be now if science had settle for the answer that "goddidit" about the thousands of things that it has come to understand since?
I have seen proof of Christ and life afterdeath. My belief is based on facts presented to me. What is truly magic is the ability to believe strictly on faith. I envy any individual capable of this because they truly are touched by the spirit. No human or anything on this earth can take that from them.
3. We are punished for our own crimes. We cannot be certain that Adam and Eve existed; they probably did not. The story of the Fall is an etiology, or a way to explain the world today. Adam and Eve represent humanity, where we all suffer as a result of our own actions.
I am open to questions from anyone, especially if you want to know more about Catholicism so you can understand that while most Christians contradict themselves, Catholics do not.
2. No because God has already given us all we need to go to Heaven. We have an intellect, free will, the Church, and we can use these to choose right from wrong. God does not want it to be easy on us, because Heaven is something we need to work for. God wants us to desire to be in a relationship with him and as long as we accept him, we will live forever with him. And Hell is not the opposite of the "well-being" of others, only we can send ourselves to Hell which is the opposite of God.
I will answer these questions in accordance to my beliefs and in the order of appearance:
1. God does not send us to Hell, it is through our decisions that WE essentially judge ourselves. We cannot determine whether or not God knows that through someone's actions at this moment that they are going to Hell, but we know we are judged both after our own death, and at the Second Coming of Christ. In conclusion, I do not believe in predestination, as I am a Catholic.
Religion without the truth (that which is in accord with fact or reality) is like a light bulb without electricity. With the truth, religions will be reborn, and there will be an explosion in spiritual growth. Religions will no longer be based just on blind faith. Search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present (with religion) and read what it says to learn the truth.
"Wouldn't you do anything possible to save smeone you love from hell?" Lol yes...what do you think Jesus' death on the cross was for? All you have to do is believe...have you ever asked yourself why you are so staunch in going AGAINST God's existence...that he is love and everything good....honestly - what's wrong with believing in him?
God IS willing to save them. Christ died on the Cross so we could go to Heaven. It is our choice. Your last point is a huge misconception. We are not punished for their actions. Because of their actions the surroundings or environmental conditions are different than what they would have been. We do not suffer directly because of the sins of others. God is not immoral. He is perfect and just. There is no reason why people should think any different if they are open to the existence of God.
@OpsDivine Why wouldn't god just delete people's souls, why is this eternal punishment necessary? Further, people who are unlucky enough to be indoctrinated into another way of thinking are just out of luck? There is no way to rationalize this, PLENTY (billions and billions) of people who had no choice what so ever about what they were taught are now suffering eternally because god loves them? No...just no. This makes god the most undeniably disgusting being ever. EVER.
God doesn't hide. In fact, there's a book that has rules and laws for us to follow. It also shows us how to get to Heaven. Once again, God gives us free will. Jesus Christ DID what was needed for people to be saved. We must accept Him. If a father told his son to be bad for a day and say that he doesn't exist, he will buy him ice cream every day for eternity. Where is the logic in that? We must accept Christ as our authority, or Savior, for our life in order to get the rewards of Heaven.
@OpsDivine This book has been seen by a small portion of humanity throughout history ... once again people who have no idea that the choice can even be made are burning in hell. Besides, there are plenty of books that say god wrote them there is no reason to believe yours is any more valid than the others.
@finallykickinback Heaven is a place of perfection. We worship God, feast, and be happy there. The Bible doesn't specifically say what "activities" we will partake in too many times, but we know just by what God says that it will be marvelous. To enter into Heaven all we must do is accept Christ as our Savior through a simple prayer acknowledging that we are sinners and that we deserve Hell. It's a personal prayer of repentance.
@OpsDivine so even if i go insane and start killing all my friends in my school all i have to do is accept christ as my savior and that i am a sinner og then poof when i die i go to heaven? if thats true then i dont really want to go there
@MrMonstermusik You're making a generalization. If you were to start to kill people and you were full of repentance, and you repented of your sins to God, then yes, you would go to Heaven. Heaven is perfect. Ted Bundy killed 30 women. According to his last words, he repented and became a Christian. Only God knows who is saved or not, but there is a possibility that he repented. God's unending mercy and forgiveness is free. Oh, and anyone who says they don't want to go to Heaven is simply lying.
Children before the age of knowing right and wrong go to Heaven. If a baby dies in the womb, they go to Heaven. They simply just didn't live a physical life. Luke 13:5 "I tell you, Nay: but except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord... not willing that any should perish." God gives us free will in our life. There isn't a soul who doesn't hear the Word of God in some form. They have the will to accept, or ignore it. I will continue my arguments in the next comment.
You were created thousands of years ago. You made a decision with God that you want to take a test. So you were sent on earth. This is a test. God doesn't send you to hell. You send yourself. After you die, you talk to god. He asks you the time you did bad things to people. And he will ask you for example. God asks " do you remember a hobo asked you for money and you didn't give it to him? Well, he died." You will keep feeling guilty and guilty. You wont feel like you- deserve to go to heaven.
@JuliusIsMe Nonsense, i never agreed to any test, especially if god already knew what its result would be - it wouldn't really be much of a test, right? There is no afterlife, just accept it.
No no no if it were easy for Christians to believe, then there would be no challenge to being a Christian.
I mean, Satan changing the fossils and physical manifestation against the proof Yahweh (the Jewish male deity of the bible) is not enough! Big breasted women against the testosterone of men and their testicles is not enough! We need MORE challenges...
Wait... then again... isn't it the POINT that the entire world be Christian or else go to Hell?
In the book "Michelle Remembers" (PocketBooks, 1980), which is about a little Canadian girl being subjected to satan worshippers doing some horrible things to her with the intent of getting her to hate God and follow satan, the devil comes and speaks to them (in rhymes) about many things. One thing he mentioned about human beings was about where we came from, as he says, "Long, long, long, long, long, ... ago, a fire burned. From fire you come, to fire you return."
Oh and I believe (with the Catholic Church) that everyone has the chance to repent, even after death. You cannot judge who is going to heaven or hell without looking at their heart or soul. For all we know Osama and Hitler could very well be in heaven
At 0:09 I knew this was heading the wrong way. I know that as a Catholic, God does not choose who is going to hell or who isn't. I think Calvinists believe in predestination
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
@lightandbeautiful "Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda."
It's easy to frame yourself as a victim when you are victimized. I've been to your page and it really makes no points as to what's wrong with homosexuality or why homosexuals don't deserve the same rights as you or I.
is it moral to talk about morals when it is clear that there are no absolute and non-negotiable values in the universe? Who says what is moral? God? You? no, I know, it's ME!!
I don't like to speak of something that doesn't exist. Mega,, You are trying really hard. I feel for you. You must realize that we don't need your blessing. As it means nothing. Are you a messenger? ..Anyone who thinks there is some individual creator " OF All THIS" is completely insane. You have no proof. Thats why we live life to its fullest. Live will continue because of actual living beings. omgggggggg
the point is that there is a creator and HE is GOD, all this just didnt happen by chance or accident that is just dumb and we dont come from the monkeys ether that is just dumb too, look around you and think a little.
@MegaGuitar87 the only thing i felt in your words is pure ignorance, and please i wouldnt want your idiodic, cruel god blessing me even if he did exist
@MegaGuitar87 "if you dont repent, you will remember me and this day i assure you that, when you're burning in hell. please think. bye."
You're trying to get us to worship your god by threatening us with a hell we don't believe in? Let's see if the same tactic works on you: If you don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then your soul will boil forever in a vat of puttanesca sauce. Is it working? Are you ready to convert? Or do you suddenly realize how stupid your threats sound to us?
"and we dont come from the monkeys ether that is just dumb too,"
Nobody is suggesting that we "came from monkeys" either. We share a common ancestor with them. And that's been proven, so you sound a little silly arguing against it.
Do you really think the best way to learn about the nature of our universe is to "look around you" and come up with your best first guess as to how things happened? Have you ever heard of the scientific method? If all our knowledge was based on what things around us look like, we would still think the earth to be flat (as the bible claims it is)
would you rather believe in God n Jesus and die and go to heaven or NOT believe in them and die and go to hell for eternity?? i wont take the chances!! Jesus Saves!!
@MegaGuitar87 would you rather worship an immoral mass murderer and remain to bilieve in fairy tales, or would you rather start thinking like an intellectual, and take a step im the right direction towards human development
@devinche14td do you you really think you, me and all there is in the world the beauty of nature, the love you feel for others, family, happiness, be in love with someone, get married have children, the climates, the planets, all the different languages, all just happen just by accident?? i dont think so..think for a bit.
@MegaGuitar87 so... who created your god then. dont you ever stop to think that your just repeating human history and worship a god that doesnt exist like ancient cilvilizations did, think about it just like we laugh at the greeks for bilieving their gods, thousands of years from now people will be laughing at us for bilieving this bullshit
There's a theory that there is a major change, and people are converting from christianity to atheism or from atheism to christianity, but it's still not known which way it's tilting. To settle this once and for all, all you have to do is just simply go here and vote yes or no. Very simple and quick, then you go about your day. Or you can stay a few to discuss.
God gives life and thats good. God knows already your choices. God provides free will. It in fact is proof of his love, that even though he knows you will turn on him that he still allows you the chance of life and existence, what you do with this is yours. Just as a parent sees there child doing something and knows its a mistake, and tries to warn them but in the end they have a choice. I suppose at that moment you would just as soon put a bullet in there head because of your great love?
Saying God gives free will and that he allready knows your choices doesnt make sense. How can your pick if its allready allready been decided? And if I were a parent, I would hope I did more for my child than a book to guide them for another 2000+ years
Religion has done many good things for humans, but its really time to stop living off fairy tales and start using our full abilitys. We're amazing animals, but we can do so much more, let's not waste anymore time. :p
@billy16801 Free will is choice, if God knows the out come that in no way removes your choice. He created this universe, gave you life, died so that you may have eternal life, and sent his Spirit to those willing to hear. Why diminish his gifts and say all he did was give a book? That book is a record of all he did for you. God revealed himself time and again, it was recorded, we are separated, but he died to fix this, if you choose to ignore this gift, its your choice. What more do you want?
@billy16801 I want you to know, I hate religion. It has caused more death and pain than almost anything, and continues to. Loving and trusting God is no more a religion than loving and trusting the ones you love. Religion is man made traditions that try to force there will on you, If God wanted this he would just force you to follow his ways. God tries to reason with us to save us, but he will not force you. Manmade religion will. God gave choice man takes it away. Never confuse the two. Peace.
@MIKECNW Religion is the product of man made traditions, it always looses the focus on God and his purpose and substitutes mans purpose or reason. Fallen man does as he pleases, always ignoring Gods will, just like you ignore/deny God and use religion for YOUR reason to do so, so many use religion to ignore God as THERE reason, and both are evil. God is truth and people will perish because they refuse to love the truth and so be saved.
@xShadowSniper22 How am I any more closed minded from your world view then you are of mine? I don't force you to do anything, yet I am closed minded because you disagree with my position and i disagree with yours?
if youre kid did somthing wrong you punish him . god give you free will it is youre free will to sinn i believe dere is no hell god is love life is a test live 80 year good dy and live for ever
In fact you can take this one step further. Isn't it just as immoral to create a being and then force it to make a decision or torture it for eternity for making the wrong choice. Shouldn't a being be asked first if they are willing to participate in something that will cause it pain and torment? I was not asked to play this game of make believe. But the reason why I was not asked is because there was no god there to ask me in the first place.
@Relativisticism You're right and the only fallacy in your statement is that you read this from a piece of Scripture in which man made manipulative propaganda was placed. Not to say NOthing in the bible is true, alot is and then theres hog wash mixed in by those in charge at the time who used the great book as a tool for controling the masses. So the problem is finding the truth and separating the lies, which you have in a way. There is a God and no he would not torture you. Keep searching tho.
Yahweh -- known & recorded expressly & graphically -- appeared as a tiny odd looking putty aka cherub, w a facial profile akin to a lamb mated to a goat, & projected a fixed smirk expression, whose short legs exhibited cloven feet akin to a piglet: of course, too; Ancient Greece: Titan mythology, parents to Zeus & two brothers, 1 of whom, tricked into creation of Crakin (sic) ... JEALOUS deities recorded in ancient India periods (predate former two): Yahweh's recorded visage; RELIGIOUS books lie
@TheAndyhaze Free will does not answer the problem. You can have the free will to choose between heaven 1 and heaven 2. One can still have free will (assuming that there is such a thing) without it it being the choice between heaven and hell or good and evil.
hell is not like that it don't have fire and you won't get hurt.. because you don't have a body when you are in the hell.hell mean "ALONE" with out god you are suffered from your mind.
jesus christ Never Existed! That nazarene was Stolen from some 18 or more Pagan Gods such as Odin that "hung from a tree", the cross came later about the 7th century C.E. and wasn't even recognized fully until the 9th century C.E.. The Truth is the Tree is a map of the Soul. Most christians just pray to a fictitious jewish archetype, and know little or nothing about the soul. That bible is a book of lies! I'm just trying to help all of you here, see it for yourself at EXPOSINGCHRISTIANITY,COM!!
If Jesus never existed, why did people like Pliny the younger, Suetonius, Tacitus and Josephus, all living during the first century AD, report Jesus and his crucifixion? If Jesus never existed, why do the Jews, regarding the empty tomb, claim that the disciples stole Jesus's body? If Jesus never existed, why did these Jews do something so "unjewish"?
"why did people like Pliny the younger, Suetonius, Tacitus and Josephus, all living during the first century AD, report Jesus and his crucifixion?"
All the people you mention never lived or were even born at the time of jesus, so never met him .The stories the historians told were hand me downs orally and those oral reports are not from eye witness accounts to the events of jesus.....
Furthermore, the earliest historian commenting on a jesus character is 200 years after the supposed character jesus death
So all you trust is in primitive anonymous men who wrote your book ...as it is written 40 years after jesus death by non eyewitnesses, or 200 years after jesus supposed death by historians who were not even born or met jesus
You just bought a lie of power hungery primitive man that wants TO control this world and the next.....But they never left earth LMAO
Pliny the younger, for instance, lived in the first century AD.
Listen, have you ever met Hitler? No. But, if you would go around and ask people about Hitler, you'll get a pretty good record of his life. It's almost the same with Jesus, the only difference is that some of the historians lived as Jesus lived.
"Listen, have you ever met Hitler? No. But, if you would go around and ask people about Hitler, you'll get a pretty good record of his life"
Because you still have people that lived at the time, living today who escaped the holocast, you can talk to them..confirm what you are telling you is correct with evidence...video..letters...hitler speaking
I dont know what this has to do with jesus
No eyewitnesses to jesus ....your faith and trust is in primitive anonymous men
Even paul never met jesus, talked to him, ate with him..or even prayed with him...paul didnt even think jesus was a real person...he says nothing of jesus events ..only the last bits....death..resurrection etc etc.....but he wasnt even their
mark first gospel and the other 3 just copied him and even make mistakes
Even your book says jesus was hung from a tree
If you cant see your being lied to, then their is really no way i can help you
Paul wrote his letters only some few years after Jesus's dead. He mentions the death of Jesus and his resurrection, this is very strong evidence that Jesus really existed and was crucified. In his letters, he doesn't talk about Jesus's life, rather of his teachings. This is because he wrote these letters to people who didn't want to hear about Jesus's life but to get answers to questions they asked and to understand the gospel. Lets focus on Paul first, later the 4 gospels.
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doombybbr 1 week ago 3
Everyone makes their own choices and God did do everything He could to save us by sending His owne Son Jesus who was in His esence God He healed people from all their scknesses even mentally ill people and demond possed people. He forgave His enemies even on the cross, where He went willingly, to shed His blood as a final and only acceptable sacrific for the sins of the whole world, you have a choice belive and be saved or choose to not believe and perish. we choose our eternal destiny
sarashitzu 1 week ago
@sarashitzu I cannot believe in a being that would send peoples souls to hell purely for the fact that the person did not believe in them, or believed in something else. IMHO that is the definition of a demon. A being that does not forgive, a being so vain as to punish those that don't believe in what there is no proof to believe in. A being that allows innocent children to suffer. This is why I cannot take what you typed here as anything but lies.
rovhyperionrov 1 week ago
@sarashitzu God sounds an awful lot like a human being...petty emotions, silly decisions obsessed with control.....
utube2344 1 week ago
@sarashitzu Fairy tales with no evidence to support them. That's what your religion is built on - nothing but smoke and phantoms.
TheLordOfTheSporks 1 week ago
fool,god wont send you to hell if you follow his commandments.
tzukuygwapo 2 weeks ago
@tzukuygwapo Matthew 5:22, anyone who says "You fool" is in danger of going to hell. You'd better go ask for forgiveness, you fool.
omgwtfbbqxD 2 weeks ago
I think they are all wrong. Since there was an Apple in the Garden of Eden it must have been Adam and Steve. :)
bigdarryld 2 weeks ago
God doesn't send you to hell. You do. You send yourself to hell for denying and defying JESUS CHRIST. God wants you out of hell so bad that He sacrificed his son, Jesus Christ, to get you into heaven. However, God doesn't send you to hell, He cannot accept anyone into heaven who denies The Christ.
uniqueeccentric 3 weeks ago
@uniqueeccentric
when we are born or when we are in the womb we are atheist, if a misscarrage occurs the baby will go to hell, and if a new born dies they also go to hell! are they denying god?
MrGaddafikiller 3 weeks ago
@uniqueeccentric
god made hell! and Evil! for god created everything.
MrGaddafikiller 3 weeks ago
@uniqueeccentric
then god did not make free will!
you can't give someone the ability to choose to belive you or not, then punish you when you pick not to. God runs his kingdom like a dictatorship!
worship him for ever and burn for ever.
God made hell!
God made evil!
God is evil!
MrGaddafikiller 3 weeks ago
@uniqueeccentric So God is basically holding a shotgun to my head and saying, "don't make me shoot you". I don't believe in God because I don't see that there's evidence to justify such a belief. If that makes me evil and deserving of eternal torture, then your belief system is vile and corrupt.
TheLordOfTheSporks 3 weeks ago
@TheLordOfTheSporks
I hear this claim made repeatedly. The truth is evidence of God is literally everywhere. The things that are created reveal the traits and attributes of the creator.
When you marvel at advanced technology you are seeing the brilliance of the scientists and engineers that have constructed it It's a reflection of them whether you know them or not. The human body is vastly superior to anything man will ever create and is a reflection of his creator.
MadeAlivestudio 2 weeks ago
@MadeAlivestudio Try to solve 3452563456 x 457647567 without the help of a computer or calculator and then come back to me. Man's not "vastly superior" to everything in every regard. Furthermore, all you're giving me is claims, not evidence. You claim evidence is everywhere, but I don't find it anywhere. If you're going to claim man was created, well, you need evidence to back up that claim.
TheLordOfTheSporks 2 weeks ago
@TheLordOfTheSporks
There are people that can do just that. One man I've heard even trained himself to do that. Second, the evidence I was talking about is creation itself. Think about this, you have trillions of parts in your own body all working together to keep you alive!. Complex systems, libraries of information, dna that is comparable to computer programming, etc. A computer exhibits all this on a much smaller scale. Surely you wouldn't say the computer made itself.
MadeAlivestudio 2 weeks ago
@MadeAlivestudio Sorry, but complexity doesn't nessecarily mean design. Naturally occuring objects can be "complex" too. Crystals, for example, are complex structures made of billions of atoms. And man-made objects can be relatively simple, like a plank... just a piece of wood carved into a rectangular shape. Again, I'm not seeing any kind of convincing evidence for creation, and certainly not any evidence for creation by the Christian god.
TheLordOfTheSporks 2 weeks ago
@TheLordOfTheSporks
There are people who want to see the evidence and there are others who really don't.
In seeing the truth, it will in turn create alot of problems for that individual. Suddenly, they'll have to confront issues like hell, sin, and eternal damnation. So it's easier to simply say there is no evidence. As long aas we can convince ourselves and then get in a group where everyone else is saying that as well, it helps to make the delusion more real. However......
MadeAlivestudio 2 weeks ago
@MadeAlivestudio I don't know what to say. I really don't see any evidence of a creator, much less your particuliar god. If all you've got in return is "you're a liar", then I don't see a point in debating with you further. It's a shame, because I thought we were actually getting into a decent conversation.
TheLordOfTheSporks 2 weeks ago
@TheLordOfTheSporks
God has made things very plain. So plain in fact that no man will have an excuse in the end. The human body showcases specificity, purpose and reason. There's reasons behind the various systems and functions of your body. There's a reason why you have lungs that breath oxygen, there's a reason why you have blood. Random chance, does not beget order or purpose, it begets disorder and randomness. The proof of God is in the things that are made.
MadeAlivestudio 2 weeks ago
@MadeAlivestudio If a man has to train hard to manage what a computer can do with ease, that's still not anything close to being vastly superior.
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fuckmania07 3 weeks ago
FightingAtheist - While you're into the issue of morality, consider the brutality of your own belief - the indifference toward an unmerited, painful death as you are torn and devoured as food for a stronger organism. All of what you consider your life is annihilated, but worse still, was only an illusion; the spark brought about by biological processes over which you have no control nor ownership - and of which there is no value except as seen through the eyes of those in the same boat as you.
eatyerbeans 3 weeks ago
FightingAtheist - an interesting commentary, especially given that God made the greatest possible sacrifice toward saving said people from hell. God arbitrarily choose to create all life and said that it was good to do so - which it was. Those who are in hell are those who reject God. You have positioned yourself so as to reject God; would you then blame Him for allowing you to enter hell? By what moral authority do you appeal?
eatyerbeans 3 weeks ago
@eatyerbeans What sacrifice? Killing himself and resurecting himself to 'save' people from the rules he set up in the first place? In the christian fable, god sends people to hell because he has the power not to, but chooses to do so anyway. Therefore, he is evil.
Of course, none of this really matters because god doesn't exist. Neither do Thor or Zeus or Allah. Its all just made up nonsense childrens' stories.
Rozmic 3 weeks ago
@Rozmic
correct and if god created everything, god created evil. which makes him worse than all the evil that ever happened in the world.
MrGaddafikiller 3 weeks ago
God is not only good, he's GREAT. Thank you Lord God for the gift of salvation in Christ Jesus amen.
AtomicMonster733 3 weeks ago
@AtomicMonster733 When you consider the atrocities that religion brings along, I wouldn't say he's great. Please justify your stance.
RatherCynical 3 weeks ago
@RatherCynical --Sinful man is responsible for atrocities, not God.
AtomicMonster733 3 weeks ago
@AtomicMonster733 It's too bad then, that these sinful men have committed these crimes because they were instructed to by the teachings of the religious doctrines. In the example of Christianity; the Bible endorses rape, genocide, slavery, misogyny and homophobia. I don't see this as a good thing, when the religious teachings are taken to be literal moral guidelines to follow.
RatherCynical 3 weeks ago
Misogyny of God who created women with just about every advantage in the way of development, fine motor skills, flexibility, intelligence, etc... not to mention the astounding physical ability to give birth? Motherhood is the highest office of humanity - through which not one came into this world even to God incarnate Himself in the person of Jesus. Not bad compensation for a little specification in the social order - of which we have probably never experienced the true intent.
eatyerbeans 3 weeks ago
@eatyerbeans It's a different context. Misogyny occurred because women were treated as second class citizens, not because they were biologically inferior. It's stated explicitly within the Bible that 'women should have no authority over men, and they must be silent because Adam was created first'. On a moral ground, that's blatant discrimination to treat women lesser than that of men.
This has yet to touch on the atrocious amounts of rape the Bible endorses. I don't view it was outweighed.
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JezusSlave 4 weeks ago
Every choice has consequences.
God wants people to choose to follow him out of love.
He sent his only son to die for us. Would you send your only son to die for your friends?
God so loves people that he does not want people to be forced to spend eternity with him.
He only wants people who love him and want to spend eternity with him.
Saving them from hell, God does not want robots. People must choose to follow Jesus
if they do not want to spend eternity outside his presence (hell).
Yah023weh 4 weeks ago
@Yah023weh Last time I checked, we were ALL God's sons, so he gave up one out of billions that he created himself with the INTENTION of killing him.
kaminohanshin 4 weeks ago
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I think the evidence is that God is good. For what we term our conscience is best understood as a sense of what God approves/disapproves of. In other words, 'morality' is best understood as that which God approves of. Given that God likely instantiates the very character traits he approves of, then God likely approves of himself, and is thus good.
Clear404 1 month ago
If there is a God then surely he would make it possible for us to use reason to find the truth. So if there is a God then reason or logic will lead us to the truth The only thing is we need to be sure that we keep an open mind and accept the truth when it has presented itself to us Also that we reason in the right direction and not let ourselfs try to steer in the way we want it to be As this will lead us away from the truth But to allow it to go where ever it it takes us.
ZeusHelios 1 month ago
@ZeusHelios God who created the universe and people think you can understand
his ways? To use reason to find the truth is like using a guitar to make piano sounds.
God is truth. Reason is based on our understanding and mankind does not understand how the world operates and cannot solve the problems of poverty and sickness.
Yah023weh 4 weeks ago
@Yah023weh To use reason is exactly what God wants, it's why he gave it to us. Reason is what helps dictate our 'free will', we don't do things for no reason.
Why does God punish us for exercising his gift he wants us to use? Why is it, when Adam and Eve decided to NOT be robots and use their free will to listen to Satan God got so pissed off? Because he intended for us to act like robots without being robots.
kaminohanshin 4 weeks ago
@kaminohanshin I see your very good point. But I think the difference is that we have free choice to choose Gods WILL or our OWN And unfortunately Adam chose his own You see choosing our own will meant doing our own things. And when we do that we have problems as everyone wants to do their own thing. Doing Gods will would have saved us from this fall and all the problems it causes. And we would have continued in Gods ways. Our own will has caused wars greed etc and so many other problems
ZeusHelios 4 weeks ago
@kaminohanshin I dont know why God punished Adam I guess because he failed to do Gods will. Which would have been better for all of us and there would have always been peace on earth Plus he was warned and yet Adam ignored the warning Adam knew the consequences yet ignored them But instead Adam chose his own will and brought about a fall in humanity which brought about all the evil. And sin that has inherited us all. Making choices brings consequences Good or bad.
ZeusHelios 4 weeks ago
@Yah023weh I agree with most of your comment But disagree with the reason side. I think God gave us the ability to reason and without it we could not have free will. How can we know truth without reason Surely God does not want us to accept what we are told After all we are tod lots of things How then do we decide what is true and false. God gave us the ablty to rerason and therefore he would have left a trail of reason for us to seek and to follow to find the truth which will speak for itself
ZeusHelios 4 weeks ago
I have asked the same questions and said the same things. That's whats good about YouTube. We can all share our thoughts even if they are the same And the fact that they are sometimes the same thoughts as others proves we can all use reason to find the truth. And the more we use reason and spread it here the more we can free others from a closed mind and help them to question and also to start using reason to find the real truth of things.
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JezusSlave 1 month ago
God=Creator
Satan=Reptilian Aliens
Humans=God's favourite breed.
So if you like to see your future child as a slave for an Alien breed then go ahead. Just like ancient egyptian rules...
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
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Religious people are the monkeys of society!
They actually think there is an imaginary man in the sky (snicker)..how sad....
What a bunch of uneducated fools...! Atheism is the only way to world peace!
There is no god...There is no afterlife...You are on your own.... When you die, your body will just rot into the ground, and you will become worm food.
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hoangtuyethalelugia 1 month ago
Gay people choose to live the gay lifestyle. No other person or entity has chosen adopt that lifestyle for them. The Bible states God made humans male and female. There is nothing in between.
mpmg64 1 month ago
@mpmg64 As a lesbian, I can honestly say I never had a choice. Do you really think someone would chose to go through the pain and struggle it is to be gay? Coming out is terrible. People will hate you because an ancient book says its wrong. Many species of animals can be gay. Animals have the power of choice? Not according to the Bible.You have a flawed argument based on a lack of understanding of now only homosexuality but of nature. Have you never heard of the gay gene?
elnoraemily 4 weeks ago
Human beings send themselves to hell when they choose to serve their own desires and purposes, rather than God's. We choose our final destination. Our loving God will never violate our free will if we have to no desire to love and serve Him.
mpmg64 1 month ago
@mpmg64 So youre saying that humans with free will are more aware of their fates than their creator? Allegedly, God knew you were going to be born before he created the universe. He knew everything about you. Therefore, we are not free, and have no will, because our fates have already been plotted out before us without our consent or knowledge.
overusedoxymoron2003 1 month ago
Great is our God. John 3 16 says it all.
Archangel866 1 month ago
God made gay people... he hates them for how they are and will send all of them to hell... This ONE thing right here is one of the countless reasons why Christianity is bullshit. Seriously, bravo Christianity for brainwashing your followers into homophobes cause 'god hates it'.
Terdmissle9 1 month ago
@Terdmissle9 --Adam made gay people, not God.
Archangel866 1 month ago
@Archangel866 And who made Adam? It all comes back to god's incompetence in the end.
TheLordOfTheSporks 1 month ago
@TheLordOfTheSporks God's incompetence. Please explain further. It was man
who made a choice. We are at fault...not God. God does not want robots. Would you
want your children to love you because they have to or because they want to?
Yah023weh 4 weeks ago
@Yah023weh If your god is omnipotent then he already knew that Adam and Eve were going to eat from the tree of knowledge before he created them.
TheLordOfTheSporks 4 weeks ago
@Terdmissle9 See what is odd is that there is only one mentioning of homosexuals in that book. "A man shall not lay down with another man". Was it in the Book of Peter? Yes I think so. Peter was the founder of the Catholic Church, and what he was specifically discussing was the hedonism of Rome, not homosexuals specifically.
overusedoxymoron2003 1 month ago
@overusedoxymoron2003 another thing that is odd is that God hates shrimp... yes, shrimp.. and declares that anyone who eats it or any water living creature without scales to be an 'abomination to society"... If you dont believe me, google it, it cites it from the bible itself, the very book Christians worship, believe is 100% real, and know nothing about.
Terdmissle9 1 month ago
@Terdmissle9 Shrimp must be the spawn of Satan himself
TheLordOfTheSporks 1 month ago
@Terdmissle9 Everything thing on earth is clean. It all belongs to Jesus.
Find that scripture in the new testament.
Yah023weh 4 weeks ago
@Yah023weh Apparently not if he creates things that humans arent allowed to consume (for no reason)
Terdmissle9 4 weeks ago
My theory- God is real, but the only thing he ever did was cause the big bang, as there is now explanation to how the big bang occured, and he did this most likely due to boredom. After that, he sat back and watched the universe grow and still does today. He doesn't do shit for us, and doesn't care what we do.
Polarbomb15 1 month ago
@Polarbomb15 He cares about what you do, Henry.
Jumpyluff 1 month ago
@Jumpyluff no he doesn't :P
Polarbomb15 1 month ago
@Polarbomb15 But why even attribute that much to him? It's like going "...well, I guess it's basically been disproven that 'God' has done any of the things that we now understand, so let's attribute to it one of the things that we are still not certain about!"
Is anything gained from that? Where would we all be now if science had settle for the answer that "goddidit" about the thousands of things that it has come to understand since?
palerider1775 1 month ago
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I have seen proof of Christ and life afterdeath. My belief is based on facts presented to me. What is truly magic is the ability to believe strictly on faith. I envy any individual capable of this because they truly are touched by the spirit. No human or anything on this earth can take that from them.
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Goku7716 1 month ago
@Goku7716 proof that jesus existed and that his actions empirically were to acheive a goal such as saving people?
GTMLePic 1 month ago
If we say god=True...
Then it's highly easy to see,that this god has one sickness-Boredom.
And with this boredom,comes a very sick sense of how to fill it.
So...that god,creates an entire world,and revolves it around some tiny monsters who mostly concern for themselves alone anyway.
And that god,is acting on whatever way it wants,yet eventually...it's just enjoying the dumb show it made.
So...Even if God=True,I do not find it something to be worshiped,but something to actually go against.
Wharwulif 1 month ago
free will
Puniishments 1 month ago
@OpsDivine tell me, how do you exactly know god exist?
How do you know hell and heaven exist?
From where did you get such confident information? As much as i know, history is altered by lots of people whit the years
Tell me, how are you CONFIDENT enough to belive about something you havent seen?
LordJike 1 month ago
3. We are punished for our own crimes. We cannot be certain that Adam and Eve existed; they probably did not. The story of the Fall is an etiology, or a way to explain the world today. Adam and Eve represent humanity, where we all suffer as a result of our own actions.
I am open to questions from anyone, especially if you want to know more about Catholicism so you can understand that while most Christians contradict themselves, Catholics do not.
VeritatemQuaerens 1 month ago
2. No because God has already given us all we need to go to Heaven. We have an intellect, free will, the Church, and we can use these to choose right from wrong. God does not want it to be easy on us, because Heaven is something we need to work for. God wants us to desire to be in a relationship with him and as long as we accept him, we will live forever with him. And Hell is not the opposite of the "well-being" of others, only we can send ourselves to Hell which is the opposite of God.
VeritatemQuaerens 1 month ago
I will answer these questions in accordance to my beliefs and in the order of appearance:
1. God does not send us to Hell, it is through our decisions that WE essentially judge ourselves. We cannot determine whether or not God knows that through someone's actions at this moment that they are going to Hell, but we know we are judged both after our own death, and at the Second Coming of Christ. In conclusion, I do not believe in predestination, as I am a Catholic.
VeritatemQuaerens 1 month ago
God lets us have a free will. All go needs to do is let you fall over yourself.
ahampster2 1 month ago
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butthole8585 2 months ago
"Wouldn't you do anything possible to save smeone you love from hell?" Lol yes...what do you think Jesus' death on the cross was for? All you have to do is believe...have you ever asked yourself why you are so staunch in going AGAINST God's existence...that he is love and everything good....honestly - what's wrong with believing in him?
blivey 2 months ago
God IS willing to save them. Christ died on the Cross so we could go to Heaven. It is our choice. Your last point is a huge misconception. We are not punished for their actions. Because of their actions the surroundings or environmental conditions are different than what they would have been. We do not suffer directly because of the sins of others. God is not immoral. He is perfect and just. There is no reason why people should think any different if they are open to the existence of God.
OpsDivine 2 months ago
@OpsDivine Why wouldn't god just delete people's souls, why is this eternal punishment necessary? Further, people who are unlucky enough to be indoctrinated into another way of thinking are just out of luck? There is no way to rationalize this, PLENTY (billions and billions) of people who had no choice what so ever about what they were taught are now suffering eternally because god loves them? No...just no. This makes god the most undeniably disgusting being ever. EVER.
JtotheKify 2 months ago
God doesn't hide. In fact, there's a book that has rules and laws for us to follow. It also shows us how to get to Heaven. Once again, God gives us free will. Jesus Christ DID what was needed for people to be saved. We must accept Him. If a father told his son to be bad for a day and say that he doesn't exist, he will buy him ice cream every day for eternity. Where is the logic in that? We must accept Christ as our authority, or Savior, for our life in order to get the rewards of Heaven.
OpsDivine 2 months ago
@OpsDivine This book has been seen by a small portion of humanity throughout history ... once again people who have no idea that the choice can even be made are burning in hell. Besides, there are plenty of books that say god wrote them there is no reason to believe yours is any more valid than the others.
JtotheKify 2 months ago
@OpsDivine Out of curiosity - What is heaven? What will we do there? What makes that appealing?
finallykickinback 2 months ago
@finallykickinback Heaven is a place of perfection. We worship God, feast, and be happy there. The Bible doesn't specifically say what "activities" we will partake in too many times, but we know just by what God says that it will be marvelous. To enter into Heaven all we must do is accept Christ as our Savior through a simple prayer acknowledging that we are sinners and that we deserve Hell. It's a personal prayer of repentance.
OpsDivine 2 months ago
@OpsDivine so even if i go insane and start killing all my friends in my school all i have to do is accept christ as my savior and that i am a sinner og then poof when i die i go to heaven? if thats true then i dont really want to go there
MrMonstermusik 1 month ago
@MrMonstermusik You're making a generalization. If you were to start to kill people and you were full of repentance, and you repented of your sins to God, then yes, you would go to Heaven. Heaven is perfect. Ted Bundy killed 30 women. According to his last words, he repented and became a Christian. Only God knows who is saved or not, but there is a possibility that he repented. God's unending mercy and forgiveness is free. Oh, and anyone who says they don't want to go to Heaven is simply lying.
OpsDivine 1 month ago
Children before the age of knowing right and wrong go to Heaven. If a baby dies in the womb, they go to Heaven. They simply just didn't live a physical life. Luke 13:5 "I tell you, Nay: but except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord... not willing that any should perish." God gives us free will in our life. There isn't a soul who doesn't hear the Word of God in some form. They have the will to accept, or ignore it. I will continue my arguments in the next comment.
OpsDivine 2 months ago
You were created thousands of years ago. You made a decision with God that you want to take a test. So you were sent on earth. This is a test. God doesn't send you to hell. You send yourself. After you die, you talk to god. He asks you the time you did bad things to people. And he will ask you for example. God asks " do you remember a hobo asked you for money and you didn't give it to him? Well, he died." You will keep feeling guilty and guilty. You wont feel like you- deserve to go to heaven.
JuliusIsMe 2 months ago
@JuliusIsMe Nonsense, i never agreed to any test, especially if god already knew what its result would be - it wouldn't really be much of a test, right? There is no afterlife, just accept it.
Anonymous247n 2 months ago
No no no if it were easy for Christians to believe, then there would be no challenge to being a Christian.
I mean, Satan changing the fossils and physical manifestation against the proof Yahweh (the Jewish male deity of the bible) is not enough! Big breasted women against the testosterone of men and their testicles is not enough! We need MORE challenges...
Wait... then again... isn't it the POINT that the entire world be Christian or else go to Hell?
Damn. I shot myself in the foot.
YourDarkAccomplice 2 months ago
In the book "Michelle Remembers" (PocketBooks, 1980), which is about a little Canadian girl being subjected to satan worshippers doing some horrible things to her with the intent of getting her to hate God and follow satan, the devil comes and speaks to them (in rhymes) about many things. One thing he mentioned about human beings was about where we came from, as he says, "Long, long, long, long, long, ... ago, a fire burned. From fire you come, to fire you return."
Such really could be true. ..
guyNbluejeans 2 months ago
Influence of roman catholic theology.
giorgiv18 2 months ago
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Almost5768 2 months ago
HAIL SATAN!
Almost5768 2 months ago
Original Sin is not only composed of the sins of Adam and Eve, we bring our own punishment by our sins today
TheHDGreenScreenMan 2 months ago
Oh and I believe (with the Catholic Church) that everyone has the chance to repent, even after death. You cannot judge who is going to heaven or hell without looking at their heart or soul. For all we know Osama and Hitler could very well be in heaven
TheHDGreenScreenMan 2 months ago
At 0:09 I knew this was heading the wrong way. I know that as a Catholic, God does not choose who is going to hell or who isn't. I think Calvinists believe in predestination
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He does, he loves us so much, he gave us his only son, so that all who believe in him, may not perish, but have eternal life.
SuperScarrow 2 months ago
Great points.
yomamasapeach 3 months ago
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
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@lightandbeautiful "Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda."
It's easy to frame yourself as a victim when you are victimized. I've been to your page and it really makes no points as to what's wrong with homosexuality or why homosexuals don't deserve the same rights as you or I.
BailiffQuimby 2 months ago
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God is closer to man from the neck vessels.Holy Quran
LightMovie313 3 months ago
is it moral to talk about morals when it is clear that there are no absolute and non-negotiable values in the universe? Who says what is moral? God? You? no, I know, it's ME!!
stefanielorimer 3 months ago
I don't like to speak of something that doesn't exist. Mega,, You are trying really hard. I feel for you. You must realize that we don't need your blessing. As it means nothing. Are you a messenger? ..Anyone who thinks there is some individual creator " OF All THIS" is completely insane. You have no proof. Thats why we live life to its fullest. Live will continue because of actual living beings. omgggggggg
TommyUB 3 months ago
the point is that there is a creator and HE is GOD, all this just didnt happen by chance or accident that is just dumb and we dont come from the monkeys ether that is just dumb too, look around you and think a little.
MegaGuitar87 3 months ago
@MegaGuitar87 sooo who created your god then, he wasnt just created by chance was he?
devinche14td 3 months ago
@devinche14td He has been He is and Always will Be..may God bless you..im out of here.
MegaGuitar87 3 months ago
@MegaGuitar87 the only thing i felt in your words is pure ignorance, and please i wouldnt want your idiodic, cruel god blessing me even if he did exist
devinche14td 3 months ago
@MegaGuitar87 if you dont repent, you will remember me and this day i assure you that, when you're burning in hell. please think. bye.
MegaGuitar87 3 months ago
@MegaGuitar87 "if you dont repent, you will remember me and this day i assure you that, when you're burning in hell. please think. bye."
You're trying to get us to worship your god by threatening us with a hell we don't believe in? Let's see if the same tactic works on you: If you don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then your soul will boil forever in a vat of puttanesca sauce. Is it working? Are you ready to convert? Or do you suddenly realize how stupid your threats sound to us?
BailiffQuimby 2 months ago
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@MegaGuitar87 "the point is that there is a creator"
An assertion you have not demonstrated to be true.
"and HE is GOD,"
Another.
"all this just didnt happen by chance or accident that is just dumb"
Nobody is suggesting that it did. Natural laws formed our world, basic life, and complex life.
BailiffQuimby 2 months ago
@MegaGuitar87
"and we dont come from the monkeys ether that is just dumb too,"
Nobody is suggesting that we "came from monkeys" either. We share a common ancestor with them. And that's been proven, so you sound a little silly arguing against it.
BailiffQuimby 2 months ago
@MegaGuitar87
"look around you and think a little."
Do you really think the best way to learn about the nature of our universe is to "look around you" and come up with your best first guess as to how things happened? Have you ever heard of the scientific method? If all our knowledge was based on what things around us look like, we would still think the earth to be flat (as the bible claims it is)
BailiffQuimby 2 months ago
would you rather believe in God n Jesus and die and go to heaven or NOT believe in them and die and go to hell for eternity?? i wont take the chances!! Jesus Saves!!
MegaGuitar87 3 months ago
@MegaGuitar87 would you rather worship an immoral mass murderer and remain to bilieve in fairy tales, or would you rather start thinking like an intellectual, and take a step im the right direction towards human development
devinche14td 3 months ago
@devinche14td do you you really think you, me and all there is in the world the beauty of nature, the love you feel for others, family, happiness, be in love with someone, get married have children, the climates, the planets, all the different languages, all just happen just by accident?? i dont think so..think for a bit.
MegaGuitar87 3 months ago
@MegaGuitar87 so... who created your god then. dont you ever stop to think that your just repeating human history and worship a god that doesnt exist like ancient cilvilizations did, think about it just like we laugh at the greeks for bilieving their gods, thousands of years from now people will be laughing at us for bilieving this bullshit
devinche14td 3 months ago
@MegaGuitar87 "Jesus Saves!!"
Moses invests.
BailiffQuimby 2 months ago
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youneekk 3 months ago
spot on
bigbluefungus 3 months ago
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I challenge anyone to debate me on any one of these allegations against God.
PS. it is expected that those that are evil would not admit their evil but shift the blame to another
j919or 3 months ago
Go to ww,.doyoubelieveingod,tk.
There's a theory that there is a major change, and people are converting from christianity to atheism or from atheism to christianity, but it's still not known which way it's tilting. To settle this once and for all, all you have to do is just simply go here and vote yes or no. Very simple and quick, then you go about your day. Or you can stay a few to discuss.
HowManyBelieve 3 months ago
Yahweh is the worse evil this world has ever seen. Lucifer REBELLED against Yahweh's evil, tyrannical, and psychopathic rule.
AutumnEnergy1 3 months ago
I'm an Atheist but I have more respect for Muslims than Jesus loving freaks.
TheTodd1977 3 months ago
God must be the worst Lawyer ever.
jamirosmajicrocks 3 months ago
God gives life and thats good. God knows already your choices. God provides free will. It in fact is proof of his love, that even though he knows you will turn on him that he still allows you the chance of life and existence, what you do with this is yours. Just as a parent sees there child doing something and knows its a mistake, and tries to warn them but in the end they have a choice. I suppose at that moment you would just as soon put a bullet in there head because of your great love?
PhalanxPerception 4 months ago
@PhalanxPerception
Saying God gives free will and that he allready knows your choices doesnt make sense. How can your pick if its allready allready been decided? And if I were a parent, I would hope I did more for my child than a book to guide them for another 2000+ years
Religion has done many good things for humans, but its really time to stop living off fairy tales and start using our full abilitys. We're amazing animals, but we can do so much more, let's not waste anymore time. :p
billy16801 4 months ago
@billy16801 Free will is choice, if God knows the out come that in no way removes your choice. He created this universe, gave you life, died so that you may have eternal life, and sent his Spirit to those willing to hear. Why diminish his gifts and say all he did was give a book? That book is a record of all he did for you. God revealed himself time and again, it was recorded, we are separated, but he died to fix this, if you choose to ignore this gift, its your choice. What more do you want?
PhalanxPerception 4 months ago
@billy16801 I want you to know, I hate religion. It has caused more death and pain than almost anything, and continues to. Loving and trusting God is no more a religion than loving and trusting the ones you love. Religion is man made traditions that try to force there will on you, If God wanted this he would just force you to follow his ways. God tries to reason with us to save us, but he will not force you. Manmade religion will. God gave choice man takes it away. Never confuse the two. Peace.
PhalanxPerception 4 months ago
@PhalanxPerception Uh it's not religion that's done such stuff.
It's those who believe in such negativity that are the problem.
MIKECNW 3 months ago
@MIKECNW Religion is the product of man made traditions, it always looses the focus on God and his purpose and substitutes mans purpose or reason. Fallen man does as he pleases, always ignoring Gods will, just like you ignore/deny God and use religion for YOUR reason to do so, so many use religion to ignore God as THERE reason, and both are evil. God is truth and people will perish because they refuse to love the truth and so be saved.
PhalanxPerception 3 months ago
@PhalanxPerception close minded FUCK right here
xShadowSniper22 3 months ago
@xShadowSniper22 How am I any more closed minded from your world view then you are of mine? I don't force you to do anything, yet I am closed minded because you disagree with my position and i disagree with yours?
PhalanxPerception 3 months ago
if youre kid did somthing wrong you punish him . god give you free will it is youre free will to sinn i believe dere is no hell god is love life is a test live 80 year good dy and live for ever
TheAndyhaze 4 months ago
In fact you can take this one step further. Isn't it just as immoral to create a being and then force it to make a decision or torture it for eternity for making the wrong choice. Shouldn't a being be asked first if they are willing to participate in something that will cause it pain and torment? I was not asked to play this game of make believe. But the reason why I was not asked is because there was no god there to ask me in the first place.
Relativisticism 4 months ago
@Relativisticism You're right and the only fallacy in your statement is that you read this from a piece of Scripture in which man made manipulative propaganda was placed. Not to say NOthing in the bible is true, alot is and then theres hog wash mixed in by those in charge at the time who used the great book as a tool for controling the masses. So the problem is finding the truth and separating the lies, which you have in a way. There is a God and no he would not torture you. Keep searching tho.
zxzrp0 4 months ago
God is real. Atheists are retards. I win.
ShamamalamaSama 4 months ago
@ShamamalamaSama thumbed you up!
ImperialIceDragon 4 months ago
@ShamamalamaSama you can't prove it. Christians are brainwashed. i win.
thegreenghost1000 4 months ago
@thegreenghost1000 bet u tat its a lot easier than u think. r u familiar with string theory?
MrMagicallights 4 months ago
If I had to see another burn in hell so that I would live forever in heaven, I would rather just die, for it would be peace for us both.
JusticeIsWhere 4 months ago
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Yahweh -- known & recorded expressly & graphically -- appeared as a tiny odd looking putty aka cherub, w a facial profile akin to a lamb mated to a goat, & projected a fixed smirk expression, whose short legs exhibited cloven feet akin to a piglet: of course, too; Ancient Greece: Titan mythology, parents to Zeus & two brothers, 1 of whom, tricked into creation of Crakin (sic) ... JEALOUS deities recorded in ancient India periods (predate former two): Yahweh's recorded visage; RELIGIOUS books lie
CarCriticAssessor 4 months ago
Bravo!!
SuperMiketheone 4 months ago
The bible is an absurd book of myths. People who take it seriously are fools.
FlyingPinkUnicorn 4 months ago
@FlyingPinkUnicorn You can say whatever you want about whether the stories in the Bible happened or not, but the concepts themselves are real.
nar3sas 4 months ago
i read some where that we are a way for the cosmos to know it self...makes sense given the fact that we are made of star dust. :)
devillewheelz 4 months ago
Well thought out points, all should consider.
Epicsabre 4 months ago
free will
TheAndyhaze 4 months ago
@TheAndyhaze Free will does not answer the problem. You can have the free will to choose between heaven 1 and heaven 2. One can still have free will (assuming that there is such a thing) without it it being the choice between heaven and hell or good and evil.
zearro53 4 months ago
@JDMadu: what does that have to do with anything.?
xxlettice97xx 4 months ago
@Lothos666 : your name says it all , and God isn't "imaginary" you'll see in the end , young "friend" .
xxlettice97xx 4 months ago
I would say something but i'll get a bunch of crap about my so called ''bubble'' of delusion so i'll give you a step by step guide to trollz
How to get thousands of comments on your post:
Step one:make a crack about religion or atheism. The more sarcastic and one sided, the better.
Step two:Make a spell1ng mistake on your post. ADD PUNTUATION MISTAKES FOR F9LL E33ECt!!!!!
Step three:Watch thousnads of people waste each other's time while your LOL soars to fame! Let the flame war begin!!!!!!!
TyberZann22 4 months ago
@TyberZann22 Nothing can crack up atheism my friend :P
TheVukadin 4 months ago
@TheVukadin touche
TyberZann22 4 months ago
@TADahar: or , maybe I posted it twice so that it'll get through y'all's thick skulls .
xxlettice97xx 4 months ago
hell is not like that it don't have fire and you won't get hurt.. because you don't have a body when you are in the hell.hell mean "ALONE" with out god you are suffered from your mind.
gtasanandreas162 4 months ago
" God is not good " .? Really ,
YOUR MOM is not good .
that's right , I said it .
xxlettice97xx 4 months ago
@xxlettice97xx You said it twice. It appears that you may have keyboard palilalia. I advise you to seek treatment from a type pathologist.
TADahar 4 months ago
@xxlettice97xx
God sucks. Really.
Get over your imaginary friend =D
Lothos666 4 months ago
@xxlettice97xx Did God touch you in a bad way? You should report him.
JDMadu 4 months ago
" God is not good " .? Really ,
YOUR MOM is not good .
that's right , I said it .
xxlettice97xx 4 months ago
jesus christ Never Existed! That nazarene was Stolen from some 18 or more Pagan Gods such as Odin that "hung from a tree", the cross came later about the 7th century C.E. and wasn't even recognized fully until the 9th century C.E.. The Truth is the Tree is a map of the Soul. Most christians just pray to a fictitious jewish archetype, and know little or nothing about the soul. That bible is a book of lies! I'm just trying to help all of you here, see it for yourself at EXPOSINGCHRISTIANITY,COM!!
hailtosatansvictory8 4 months ago
@hailtosatansvictory8
If Jesus never existed, why did people like Pliny the younger, Suetonius, Tacitus and Josephus, all living during the first century AD, report Jesus and his crucifixion? If Jesus never existed, why do the Jews, regarding the empty tomb, claim that the disciples stole Jesus's body? If Jesus never existed, why did these Jews do something so "unjewish"?
eagleeye2102 4 months ago
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@eagleeye2102
"why did people like Pliny the younger, Suetonius, Tacitus and Josephus, all living during the first century AD, report Jesus and his crucifixion?"
All the people you mention never lived or were even born at the time of jesus, so never met him .The stories the historians told were hand me downs orally and those oral reports are not from eye witness accounts to the events of jesus.....
devante11 4 months ago
@eagleeye2102
Furthermore, the earliest historian commenting on a jesus character is 200 years after the supposed character jesus death
So all you trust is in primitive anonymous men who wrote your book ...as it is written 40 years after jesus death by non eyewitnesses, or 200 years after jesus supposed death by historians who were not even born or met jesus
You just bought a lie of power hungery primitive man that wants TO control this world and the next.....But they never left earth LMAO
devante11 4 months ago
@devante11
Pliny the younger, for instance, lived in the first century AD.
Listen, have you ever met Hitler? No. But, if you would go around and ask people about Hitler, you'll get a pretty good record of his life. It's almost the same with Jesus, the only difference is that some of the historians lived as Jesus lived.
eagleeye2102 4 months ago
@eagleeye2102
"Listen, have you ever met Hitler? No. But, if you would go around and ask people about Hitler, you'll get a pretty good record of his life"
Because you still have people that lived at the time, living today who escaped the holocast, you can talk to them..confirm what you are telling you is correct with evidence...video..letters...hitler speaking
I dont know what this has to do with jesus
No eyewitnesses to jesus ....your faith and trust is in primitive anonymous men
devante11 4 months ago
@eagleeye2102
All historians did not even meet jesus
Even paul never met jesus, talked to him, ate with him..or even prayed with him...paul didnt even think jesus was a real person...he says nothing of jesus events ..only the last bits....death..resurrection etc etc.....but he wasnt even their
mark first gospel and the other 3 just copied him and even make mistakes
Even your book says jesus was hung from a tree
If you cant see your being lied to, then their is really no way i can help you
devante11 4 months ago
@devante11
Paul wrote his letters only some few years after Jesus's dead. He mentions the death of Jesus and his resurrection, this is very strong evidence that Jesus really existed and was crucified. In his letters, he doesn't talk about Jesus's life, rather of his teachings. This is because he wrote these letters to people who didn't want to hear about Jesus's life but to get answers to questions they asked and to understand the gospel. Lets focus on Paul first, later the 4 gospels.
eagleeye2102 4 months ago