Fall of Rome vs Failure of American Politics, Economy pt 2

[TheAerosmither]

thanks for putting part No.1 in the description box.

and thanks for the upload.

[tripnbilly77]

The best part about YouTube is all the creative user names. Some of them are hilarious.

[MyMeatStick1]

Yeah Chrisitanity saved Rome...in the same way cutting someones leg off and then giving them a shitty wooden peg saves someone.

[Aramis2000]

@MyMeatStick1 you forgot about the part where, when their insurance doesn't pay for the leg, you take the wooden leg and beat the person to death with it.

[studiousx3]

Did they anybody realized that the Eastern Roman Empire which was predominately Christian stood still? Western Roman Empire had a very corrupted view of it though.

[studiousx3]

This is very historically inaccurate.

[anthcybo]

@studiousx3

how so?

[shotty2222]

watch the video "how zionists devide and conquer"

we must do somethign or the usa will fall like rome

[PaulCarnage]

In the end... its all about money. We need to change this system. We need a resourced based economy. Watch: 'Zeitgeist: Moving Forward' you'll see what I mean. This is a solution for human kind. Trust me.

[MonaghanMan3000]

"Roman's didn't punish people's beliefs?" Ummm... persecution of the Christian... retarded, biased, anti-christian historical reconstructionism.

[studiousx3]

@MonaghanMan3000 Agreed.

The Romans before Christianity were vicious beings who disrespected women, the poor, and all those who didn't believe in many gods including wise philosophers. I don't like these types of documentaries either.

[BrooklynNYC777]

@Andrew598895 hahahahahaahhaha lol dont hurt anyone man.

[jamessawy]

THE US WILL FALL , BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE DONT SEE , U ONLY ACCEPT. FRID CHIP , OH U MIGHT SAY SO WHAT THATS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT , YESSSS IT DOES , THATS WHY YOU GUYS A CONSIDERED DUMB , BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SEEING , THERE ARE FEMA CAMPS BUILT IN THE US THEY R FOR YOU GUYS, WHEN THE TIME COMES YOU WILL BE TAKEN THERE AND KILLED, POLICE STATE IS THERE ALREADY UNDER THE GUISE OF TRAINING , BUT OTHER WORLD MILITARY R TRAINING THERE , ITS ALL FAKE ITS TO ATTACK YOU ,

[mattmatt115]

@jamessawy What you have said is very accurate.

[Transkar]

Its pretty simple guys.

Inflation = bad

Moral corruption = bad

Disrespect for the people = bad

[DJPANDATONY]

"America will fall"

I don't get it. You speak as if the United States is the singular western state. If USA is to fall, so will the entire western first world countries.

[Benkenobi32]

germanic foreigners that travel to california and become mini-roman-emperors/ govenators? I don't see any parallel to America :p

[BrooklynNYC777]

the US will not fall !!! get ready for the rebirth on a level never seen or experienced by humanity.

[TheDevilsBusiness]

This sounds like conservatives explaining the fall of the Soviet Union a few years back.

[talusan909]

Be it known. No Empire ever last forever. This is true and always be true.

[Sea1Sun]

Just because people cloth themselves with religion, it make no difference. Christians and Pagans alike as humans are ferocious and destructive beings. Unless human beings learn to live and act by code of conduct that teaches old and young to be considerate and caring of others, understading that every person has a right to exist without transgressing the rights of others, history will continue to repeat itself.

[wdfeo]

just think if britian wasnt doin so much war they wuda killed america off but they sent there forces to france :(.

[Research0digo]

Thank you for the upload and all the excellent links down below (lots of typing - thanks!) is there a part three of this, please?

Thanks.

[OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp]

@123DROCK

I speak pretty good spanish so if you want me respond in that just let me know.

Why shouldn't America have dropped those nukes? The japanese wern't going to give. It was American lives or Japanese lives. We chose Japanese lives. We did what we had to.

[IceWolf202]

Ah, but many forget that Rome had almost fell after it had defeated Carthage (USSR). Political Corruption and economic failure plagued the once glorious republic. The result was a transition from the Republic to the Emperors. If anything, the Americans are far from total collapse, it is just on the verge of a political revolution waiting for it's own Julius and Augustus Caesar. From there the US will reign for many years to come and will behave as a true empire. IMPERIVM AMERICANVM!

[DreamsofMajesty]

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[CaptainComposte]

OMG, the barbarians that took over Rome are like the illegal alians flooding America. This documentary says the the barbarians didn't want to destroy Rome, but wanted to be a part of it because that was the good life; similar to hispanics wanting to come to America because America is seen as rich with plenty of jobs.... even though were almost in a depression

[380Banshee]

Anti- Christian people are under-experienced. Adversity must be dealt with, otherwise, it will destroy Christianity. I have lived in Countries with no law and corruption. Those under-lawed are more hurtfull than a regulated society.

[Zartushta]

Roman Empire was GAY and it was just for GAYS like your united faggots of America, Enjoy it guys LOL I meant GAYS.

[LLCoolPass]

mexicans = goths

[JohnBreadForger]

But the mexicans get very good treatment from much of the American government. Especially if they're illegal.

[nclusiau]

Check The Real News for a report from Kansas City on sex slaves and you will realize the slavery your country is guilty of.

[JohnBreadForger]

So you use a tiny minority to define things for the vast majority? Stop trolling.

[ndelco]

If the majority chooses slavery for the tiny minority, yes i'm prepared to «define» things for them because there stupid. Anyway, if you can't understand the basic principles of conviviality with all the goods you have, what is there to say. Good luck.

[JohnBreadForger]

Yes, you know what is best for everyone. You understahd all people's condition and wants better than they do since you are the all knowing god of everything.

I say the same of conviviality to you. Stop trolling and grow up.

Just so you know, I'm done talking to you.

[joshvn715]

@ndelco

Wait so majorities should be able to enslave minorities?

Wow where were when the Constitution was written so YOU could tell people that the

TYRANNY of MAJORITIES are of no concern at all.

But...

too bad the French Revolution and the heinous acts of MOBS reminded sane people that MAJORITIES are far, far more evil than minority. lolllll

Democracy is about respecting and protecting the minority.

[SmokePropaganda]

Ahh so all those book burnings by Christians were to gain knowledge and insight then?

The people who died in the Salem Witch trials Died because they were evil it had nothing to do with a few people wanting to gain property and rid themselves of "Social undesirables" by accusing them of witchery in a Kangaroo Execution court.

All religions much like any other example of mankinds fleeting ego are fearful of anything that might prove them wrong.

[joshvn715]

@smokepropaganda

Everybody knows the heinous acts committed by Christians

but the pillars of western civilization rest on the foundation of Catholic Church.

Not the principles of religion, or church itself

but THE INSTITUTION that enabled human discovery, thirst for knowledge to go farther than ever before.

Newton, Galileo, Copernicus however hated were educated, researched, and pursue greater discoveries through the Church as an Institutional goal of defining human existence and our world.

[zoticus1]

Wrong,

It was the empires of the middle east that saved the wealth of knowledge from the Alexandria library.

Oh they were Muslim also so spare me the institution.

And Christianity was just based on paganism whole cloth. The Roman church is just the vestiges of the roman empire, Rome never died it just centralized in Rome itself.

[joshvn715]

@zoticus1 really... you think it is a random occurrence we know specifically about the past 1,500+ years of WESTERN CIVILIZATION. You think it was Alexandria library that gave the WESTERN WORLD- and all its peoples birth certificates, marriage licenses, and death records.

THAT IS an institution we all relied especially with the Rome's Fall, Black Plague and chaos of Medieval times. It was the Catholic Church that finally tamed the ... Goths, Charlemagne and OPPRESSIVELY dominated their lives.

[Tuathalful]

@joshvn715 Ummm, pretty sure the church took Galileo to court over his ground breaking new model of the solar system... Was that discovery one of these "Institutional goal[s]"? People at the time ppl had to hide their thirst for knowledge in religion, society was religious at even turn... maybe we of secular times would have to go live with the taliban to know what Europe was like at Galileo's time? lol

[joshvn715]

@Tuathalful THEOCRACIES are oppressive but it was the foundation the Catholic Institution that valued HEALTH REFORMS of populaces (Black Plague), was a place of birth certificates, marriage licenses, death records fundamental to a SOCIETY.

By Catholics shaping the pillars of Western Civilization after Rome, as HATEFUL AND DISGUSTING as they were-- it was a PEACE that allowed for EDUCATION and the Renaissance and science followed.

Maybe our own nation hides discoveries from deluded zealots :D

[joshvn715]

People make mistakes, heck IF WE follow Darwin to closely we would have eugenics policies in the health-care bill.

but they are OBVIOUSLY many things to appreciate from Darwin.

You have the same clarity and objectivity, you wish for religious believers to have,

and thus appreciate what the organization and institutions Churches have brought to forming our very civilization and world outlook.

[joshvn715]

@llcoolpass

I guess mexicans are the goths.

***We use them to protect and serve our nation but can't let them enjoy anything lolllll

[LLCoolPass]

you are correct, they share aspects of that, as well as the gypsies, jews, and others in weimar republic. right now, the mexicans and a few other smaller groups are taken in the night by ICE to very unpubliziced prison complexes. I could go on , but one thing is sure, may we all have a Merry Christmas 2009!! The horrible events that will fill the news for the next 3mos following this christmas will keep us depressed and occupied, but on this day lets try to be happy!

[NeoSapienist]

this is a history of failure of human kind, failure of systems based on the same systems- why are banks and churches classical buildings? we're either worshiping money or paying for a god.- civilization is a failure that offers a dream and a idea that looks good on paper, but unsustainable in core aspects that it, like a parasite, kills its host (earth) in process of becoming civilized. civilization= war. derrick jensen puts it well. say your goodbyes to the last of the nomads.

[ninjadrb93]

the goths would have been better off by just forming there own nation when they clearly could have conquered rome

[LtSurge659]

that's because Christianity conquered Rome in a sense.

I don't like how the Christian Church had destroyed "demons", which were old pagan entities of antiquity and wonder. They also destroyed the Library of Alexandria, a store of a thousand years of ancient learning. Historians claim the entire western world was set back hundreds of years because of the colossal loss.

[SmokePropaganda]

Indeed, religion was never a good friend of knowledge.

religions always were happy keeping people stupid and frightened, which is why governments embrace religions.

primal fear to keep people from asking questions like who is fucking us and why.

[joshvn715]

WHAT???

It is the advent of religion that has founded the VERY MEANS human beings have sought knowledge and all conceptual understanding!

How do you think western civilization has been measured, discoveries understood, quests undertaken- IT WAS centered around the Church.

How do even think that institutions and principles have been so incredibly established?

Zealots of all kinds of faith (atheist/christian alike), fear-mongers are the true enemies of knowledge.

[joshvn715]

@ltsurge

Yeah many valuables were foolishly lost but...

What do barbarians do? I bet godless pagans keep records of their undertakings, and maintain treasured artifacts lolll.

Amazing how Rome crumbled in its division, loss of identity, and recognized authority.

I guess these things happen when nations grow so large, powerful that their strong direction and leadership becomes mired in self-gratification, in-fighting lolll.

This "demise", should remind of the true threat we face today.

[MonaghanMan3000]

@LtSurge659 Uh... dude. The Muslim general Amr destroyed the Alexandrian library at the order of the Caliph. He told them that if the scribbles of the library disagreed with Allah they should be burned and if they agreed they were superfluous... then, proceeded to us the scrolls and books to heat the tubs for his soldiers to take baths in.

[Keinlicht]

@MonaghanMan3000 Actually there's more evidence that Caesar himself caused the books of the Library to be destroyed during an attack on Alexandria. Though the Seraphim and presumeably the library itself were destroyed at a later date by a Christian mob, the books contained therein (and the knowledge of the ancients) seem neither to have been destroyed by Muslims or Christians.

[teemu21]

@LtSurge659 Actually of the 4 sackings of the Library of the Alexandria is the one by Christians most likely the least harmful. Even an anti-Christian historian of those days moaned only loosing of the pagan statues and altars and other art in the area in his writings, not the loss of any books. Most books had been transferred to other parts of the empire on the decades before that.

[MyamIAwesome]

My am i Awesome

[Nonamearisto]

Ancient Rome was NOT "unconcerned" with their beliefs... Christians DIED for their beliefs under the Romans.

[rdavian]

yeah yammer theres just one problem it was the right that got us in this mess in the 1st place as well as the left. wake up dude!!!!!!

[yammer123]

fuck that this country aint going down without a fight, it will kill burn it self to the ground to see that dirty ass country mexico take a foot back of our soil much less some pussy across the seas, canada aint gonna be doing shit for as long as i'm around. This country will live past a dumbass m o n k e y president by a hair, and than the right will get the house and pull it together, PS GOOGLE OBAMA BORN IN KENYA

[xRSCx]

Romans have fight alot, and at the end they lost.

America is doom because they cant be powerfull without making wars, and those wars are making america weaker.

[mozfreak84]

Religion was the most devastating force during the middle ages.

[migo53333]

it still is!

[EagleVisionPictures]

religion still blows

[CarroBarrato]

Question: Are the Illegals entering the U.S the new Goths? Don't they want to be a part of the U.S. as the Goths wanted to be part of Rome.

[selymak]

holy sh***!

[levonet33]

I see Turkey on the map,but the turks came in 12 century.This was Greece and Armenia at that time.

[esoeso122]

Don't you hate it when that happens?

[zoddie]

the title of this video is clearly Not the actual title of the show, the poster is trying to skew two different governments for his own liberal ends....he is a moron. this show was strickly about the fall of rome, there is no comparison that can be made since it was two totally different governments.

[deftonesfanatf]

They are totally two different goverments, but there is many comparisons one can make about the roman empire and the america/american imperialistic empire. I bet that more americans know about who's going to play Sunday mourning than the latest change to our consitution

[awellwisher]

I remember taking world history class where we studied the fall of ancient Rome in detail. At the end of the lecture the professor said, "Doesn't this sound like America today?" And the answer was, "Yes." History is about to repeat itself. Please read The Late Great USA by Corsi and The End of America by Wolf.  Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[xXAmericanBoyzXx]

Wise words, 'Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it'.

[AssyrianPride]

what is this documentary called?

[Quentin0000000000]

lol there was only had about 500 men to defend it they left the gates open

[Achillesandwisdom]

I think this person is confusing Christians with heretics! On top of that his definition of what a Christian is is a bit blurred, is it somebody who is a Christian by name? well just look at the crusaders and what they've done. A Christian is someone who is trying to fulfill the commandments and repents if he doesn't among other things like following the Apostolic cannons and teaching. His assertions are very badly researched.

[foxrat123]

Liberalism is the problem.

[andy7666]

So true..

[cotullaguy]

If that is the case, then why did the economy crash under your czar Bush?

[wheatpuff]

does this explain why our "christian, conservative" president has to have his public speeches read to him via an earpiece? The fact that conservative neocons have been running this country for the past seven to eight years doesn't really support your argument, but context is everything.

[danroduw06]

Youre the problem.

[On1y1Ch1na]

thx for admitting ur countries fall... jk... but yea im kinda tired of ppl always talking sht lk us is still number 1 on chinese youtube videos... but anyways i live america too though and china... and plus im a christian too... so i love america for that... eventhough some americans arnt christian like...

[davidsghost]

Soon the USA will fall :( Sad, our people have become so dumb and unedcated because no on cares about education, violence has increased in the USA and literacy rates dropping fast, our dollar is failing, what the heck happened??? How can we turn it around, is it too late? I know of people who have left the United States, people are moving away to get out? When once people only wanted to come here.

[malcolmeat]

America was closer to downfall in the Civil War and the Depression. Compared to those times, this is nothing.

[TehFlush]

Well, in those times, Americans were patriotic and supportive of their nation. Look at them now. Many American kids are more loyal to JAPAN than the U.S. Men would rather watch pornography than deal with their problems. And the politicians no longer represent the people.

[malcolmeat]

I do agree with you on many stupid Americans being more loyal to Japan. However, during the depression, people were shouting about a communist revolution, and in the Civil War, people were killing each other (like in "bleeding Kansas" Porn has been around for as long as humans have been able to draw on caves (not kidding about this). As for politicians, well, at least they still have to pander to us.

[jdrogers28]

You're an idiot. Last I checked we had a war going on fought only by VOLUNTEERS. Americans are more loyal to Japan than their own country? Are you really this fucking stupid? Literacy rates? When do you meet Americans that can't read? Oh right, never. Whatever, I'll just go watch some porn because that's how Americans deal with their problems :) It just happened yesterday. My friend's wife stopped being able to read so he watched some porn.

[TehFlush]

Wow, will hypocrisy ever stop? First of all, I never said anything about iliteracy. Second,, let me rephrase this: "MANY american KIDS are more loyal to Japan" (I see why you brought up iliteracy, but enough about your life story). The porn industry skyrocketed in the early 70's/late 60's. Pornography isn't bad, but in excess is just embarrassing. Look at all the porn sites in the internet (I'm sure you do this daily anyway), does this not look like obsession?

[Emoreallysucks]

"Many" Who are many, where are your sources?

[TehFlush]

Schools are getting "manga" clubs, take a look at the japanese media and propaganda that we have. Look at the technology kids have (what company made it and where is it from?). Ok, now show me some evidence of children being loyal to the U.S. (and uhm yeah I haven't been on youtube for like 3 months).

[xXAmericanBoyzXx]

I completly agree with you, they happily run their mouths saying how the U.S is great (it is dont get me wrong, but at least I tribute towards it) when they dont even tribute towards it, dont hardly know their own history (and dont want to), they are growing up ignorant, not wanting to know the truths, but only that what they like, they are turning a blind eye on the world like Rome did, our downfall has already began if you ask me, did a while ago when we decied to become arrogant.

[Ba101]

I didn't see any difference with the Circus Maximus obsession and the American obsession with sports and celebrety. I wouldn't agree with the guy in the first part who said we had a long way to go. People in the states are preoccupied while the country is being taken over by fascists and the dollar and the constitution destroyed.

they can't even see it when its right in front of their noses.

[sgprailfan]

@davidsghost The only thing I think we really need to do is to fix the dollar and become less reliant on other countries.

[shotty2222]

@davidsghost The USA is failing because the media puts dumb ass's on a pedestal (family guy) and the music is currupting our youth (being gangster is cool, being bad is cool, being bad is nerdy and gay). It is too late. Similar to the barbarians in teh roman empire, the mexicans want to be part of the USA, and will try to take us over. they will most likely succeed, and the usa will slowly seep into a deep deep depression similar to the midieval times.

[carnypimp]

@davidsghost Get some politicians who care about the middle class not just the poor and rich. That is the only fix. Look up the states who have The Right To Work Law they have jobs but they pay at best $1hr over minimum wage. You could argue why don't they all go to college but many of them are college graduates. The problem is to many educated idiots that want to be boss instead of keeping labor unions to keep us who spend money working for it.

[bxjam85]

@davidsghost This, my friend, is the destiny of republics.