free talysh, tati, cuhuri, lezgi, chaxur, tsabaran, avar. Azerbaycan shall preserve the languages and preserve the "cultures". They are a great part of Azerbaycan culture and history.Azerbaycan can still be a Turkish republic but in same time hold on to the beauty of the Caucasus.Azerbaycan is even in the same time available to preserve the sovereignty of the republic in so many ways. vetenin esl gözelliyi biridir. suverenliyin remzi olar meselen. hech olmazsa, bir fikir ver dediklrimə, hərkim.
@qatilepeshakar thses are iranian peaple:tati persians,talysh,tabarsaran are all iranian peaple not turk azari whay shouldent be with iran ,but under ur turkish rule !???u preserve tham!??u hink they are dinsinct animals!???they are iranian and ur azarbaijan means land of fire ,not turk and panturk ,ur invadors from mongolian turkistan here.
@AryanMithra 1)talysh is branch of parsi pahlawi(mid persian)which have some diffrences to modern persian(tajik,daripersian or farsi).
2)there is no evidance that talysh is medes ,bc talysh language is parsi pahlawi
3)even if ur claim is true:persian and medes were both iranian tribes.only seprated by kingdoms,for a short periode later unitaed again under cyrus akhameneshid empire(persian median empire).persian medes parthian were all sam peaple,race,language ,
persian devide to 3 periode by evlolution and chnages:1)old persian2)mid persian(pahlawi,parsi pahlawi) up to sasanid persian empire finished by arab invasion3)modern persian(parsi dari or farsi or tajiki) originate and became in east part of iran(khorasan,afghanistan,tajikestan)by work of khorasani persian poets like:ferdosi tusi,which later dominate in othar parts of iran became as official language of iran.
wht is your concept of persian and medes,and for ur claim bring some reasons ,ok!
talysh dilect:It includes many dialects usually divided into three main clusters: Northern (in Azerbaijan and Iran), Central (Iran) and Southern (Iran). There are a wide variety of estimates for the number of Talyshi speakers with reliable estimates running anywhere from 500,000 to 1 million. Talyshi is partially(90%), but not fully, intelligible with respect to official Persian(farsi/dari). Talysh is classified as "vulnerable" by UNESCO's Atlas of the World's Languages
@AryanMithra diffrent bw official persian and talysh is like turkman with turkish of turkey.its like u say turkman is not turkic !!!!!
talysh:is a dilect of pure old persianparsi pahlawi which preserve from arabic influence due to isilation or caspian region like:mazani,gilak dilects of iran.while official persian which u see in iran,afghanistan,tajikestan is called modern persian or dari persian which have some arabic,turko mongolid mix.talysh is a dilect or accent of big persin group.
@sspersian Talysh is preety much a direct offspring of Median language! It has nothing to do with Middle and New Persian! It was related to Old Persian, and that's it. And yes, they are still an Iranid people, like Persians. So we're related. B. Habib and G. Asatrian are two researchers who mean they are Medes. Look at Talysh words! They are not Persian, but of Median origin! Spaka = Dog, is a Median word that you still find in the Talysh language.
they are more similarity of taylysh to modern persian than to kurdish,baluch,while kurd speak talysh cant even undrestand but if u speak offial persian a talysh which never staudied official persian can undrestan 90% ,for example i am khorasani iranian which official persian originated from khorasan dari i undrestand talysh songs by 90%.
its same language but diffrent accent:u think persian is just the accent of tehran!???they r only 20 accnts in khorasan
@AryanMithra so if talysh are not persian who are!????
talysh,mazani,gilak ar purest persian by tradition,languge,race.they are the only today pahlawi persian speakers.while rest speak dari or farsi(khorasani origin persian)
@sspersian And look at Talysh traditions, those are deffinetely not Persian.
But they are more related to other Median people's traditions; Azeris (In Iran, Azeris in Azeribaijan have forgotten their heritage), Kurds, Balochs and so on.
Ask Talysh people themselves, and see if they identify themselves with Persians, or with they forefather Diyakku and the Medes.
1)which tradition is more similar to those!??what do you mean persian tradition is diffrent ?from which area!??if u look at clothes,tradition of persians gropus:from shiraz,isfaha,yazd,khorasan,mazandaran,gilan ,tajiks,lorsvillages u see talysh dree like them,dance like tham,look like them .
2)azari which azari turk one!??who have diffrent clothes,languge,dance baluch very diffrent clothes and looks,
Assyrian records, which in fact provide the earliest evidence for Persian and Median presence on the Iranian Plateau, give a good chronology but only an approximate geographical indication of ancient Persians. In these records of the 9th century BCE, Parsuwash (along with Matai of Median) are first mentioned in the area of Lake Urmia .so medes distinct ,and persian itselfe have many words from medes,but there is not even one evidance,expet its distinct 2500 years ago.
@AryanMithra and its very wrong to say talysh,baluch,kurd are medes language or dilect bc<if you check the family tree of iranian languge you will see that medes itselfe was a seprate dilect while talysh is seprate,kurdish is seprate,baluch is seprate so how they can be medes while medes is another branch and not even undrestandble by thses!??
@AryanMithra u mention traditons:just tyrpe persian shirazi,isfahani,other dance in youtube and see also theire traditional clothes of shiraz(capital of far province of iran) u see its exaclty like this video.while type baluch u see its has not even 1% similarity of dance,clothes,looks,kurdish also look difrent in dance and clothes
Azerbaijan is run by a satellite Turkish government.
They are brainwashing good Azari Iranic Persian people to think they are Torks.
But how much happier would Talyshistan be under the regime of crazy Khamenei (Arab dog)??? I wish for Talysh and Azari (they're IRANIAN BROTHERS..) freedom and peace.
Almost all Iranian peoples are suffering in some way.
Why specifically us? Why is all this garbage happening to us? Why are Arab countries prospering and we are their toy?
@PersoAryanism Which Arab country is prospering? Severe class division, rampant poverty, Western-backed dictatorships and humiliated militaries are what the Arab World offers the world today.
If the IRI has done one good thing is to transform Iran into a regional power no Arab country can match, even with their fancy F-16s and shiny tall buildings.
@Marduniya thats not true. IRI has isolated us from everyone, which is worst then having a weak military. your turning the whole world against yourself. kindda beats the purpose.
@99999999988888888 With who, relations with Russia has detoriiated. and countries like torkey and brazil are trying to milk us. r kidding me man most of the blame is on IR.
Arab countries are not prospering! they are like a prostitute selling their body!
The western oil companies give a minimal percentage of the oil revenue to these countries. And they trick them to spend that money on stupid things so the west gets that money back! Iran how ever has been achieving much technological and scientific progress and if one would go to Iran would see that people are also not poor!!! Drinking boos and sexual escapade is not prosperity!!!!!
@Mithradatesi People in Iran are not POOR? lol. Iran Is not Tehran (even Tehran has large gaps between rich and POOr), but still maybe you should travel to baloochestan, kordestan, kerman, even khoozestan.
there are also poor people in Germany,Holland, England, let go Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece! Have you any idea about this???? What do you expect from a country that has been under boycott for 30 years????? Let them open the way and the doors for Iranian people and then see were they will end up!
This is all about oil!!!! they dont want us to control it!
these lands were supposed to be returned to Iran under the infamous shameful treaty of Torkamanchai by the year of 1997!!! however as ever the number one enemy of Iran the British turds with the help of Margarette Thatcher and their servant the Russian Gorbachov gave these formerly Iranian states (the 17 cities of Khazakh) their autonomy and hence robbed our nation yet one more time of their rights.....Death to UK
@Mithradatesi i know mate i was just trying to speak my heart out and how hateful i am towards the Russians and evil masters the British bastards...it really gets to me this Torkamanchai and Golestan treaty.....mohaede nangine torchamanchai.....still to this day amongst merchants and business men alike there's a saying when someone wants to cheat the other, the latter turns around and says: Ba ma moahede torkamanchai mibandi???
@Mithradatesi well, we dont want more wanna be torks, we already have troubles with the ones we have. but talysh want be part of Iran, their leader openly says so.
@AryanaUnited I was there , in 1993, Aliev came to Lankaran with few people form his entourage, that's it - no army, no special forces. People of Lankaran met him with great enthusiasm, he spoke with them openly and asked them to expel all enemies of republic. It were people of Lankaran who disarmed and expelled forces of so called talysh mugan republic. IS that what u call most Barbaric way?? Get yr facts straight.
@AryanaUnited are you retard ?? They haven't separated, even though they had chance to do it, despite constant instigation from armenia and iran. I gave you straight facts and you replied by crapping out yet another portion of plain chauvinist lies.
@AryanaUnited wow.. get some mental help, you definitely need it. Only imbecile losers like you resort to chauvinism to support their otherwise non-existent self-confidence.
@ktototamto yes all you can do swear, nice i guess thats rational and self confidence. thats typical of people like you who lack education and basic sense of rational.
@AryanaUnited i didn't swear at you, I put you a diagnosis - u are mentally disordered person, just like any other racist, chauvinist or fascist person is. Because emotionally healthy person can not be any of mentioned above. As I said, get some help, and get real.
@ktototamto lol, how am i racist, because i said the fact which you do not like, make me racist. is this your arguement. fact is fact, talysh declared independence from baku in 1993. wether you like it or not. secondly, torks have a policey of the torkification of talysh people and other ethnicities in that country. and this makes me a racist for stating the truth, i see your rational.
@AryanaUnited Firstly you are chauvinist because you constantly insult other elasticities. Secondly, you didn't give a single fact, only lies. So called Talysh Mugan republic was declared not by talysh people, but by bunch of gangsters, which was confronted and forced to flee bu talysh people. When Aliev came to Lankaran, he didn't have a single (!) armed man with him! He relied purely on support of talysh people. This is historical fact. Learn some history little chauvinist.
@ktototamto again you only call me chauvinist because i gave you facts, i send you a link that support my arguement which you cannot deny. quote me once were i insulted an ethnicity. saying torks are chauvinist is not insult or a swear word, it is characterisic. each arguement you give you need to show support, by just saying them does not make it true. period.
@AryanaUnited How does article about single arrest in 2007 become a fact about events in 1993?? That's all you could find? Even simple google search will give you thousands articles about human rights abuses in IRI and ethnic oppression. It is s shame to see people like u trying to spread more hatred in middle east, as if there wasn't enough, when we need more unity than ever.
@ktototamto that was not about 1993, if you read the article it has talked about ethnic cleansing with talysh and how people from other parts of your country were taken to talyshistan. or how economically and politically talysh are being discriminated against because they are ethnic iranians. read carefully. 2. I am not spreading hatred, by closing your eyes problems do not go away. 3. i did not say iran does not have problems offcoarse it does.
@AryanaUnited talysh mollacrats control lucrative religious commerce, while kurds literally rule the country. So if thre is anyone to complain about discrimination, it is azeris, not talysh or kurds.
@AryanaUnited Fact about kurdish settlements is form your article!! Fact about talysh mollas easily verifiable, just search for Allahshukur Pashazadeh, who has beed grand mufti since KGB times. All imams and mollas in azerbaijan are appointed by him and all of them are form talysh.
@ktototamto 4. we r talking about ur country, if u wanna talk about iran thats another issue. u cannot justify your countries brutalities and cultural genecide by saying others do it also.
firstly, get a dictionary and learn a meaning of phrase "ethnic cleansing" , secondly read your article yourself, there is no mention of azeris being relocated to talysh regions, but kurds, which are your beloved aryans. Aliev as ethnic kurd himself relies on kurds as his support base, thousands of kurds were given wast areas of land in my home town (where my parents from ) of Ganja. All religious matters in azerbaijan are controlled by so called talysh molla mafia
@ktototamto lol aliev being kurd. ( show me proof). two i did nt say azeris were being relocated their i said other ethnic groups, this is an example of ethnic cleansing.
ps. your sources need to be reliable third party sources like mind.
definition of ethnic cleansing: Ethnic cleansing is a euphemism that has come to be used broadly to describe all forms of ethnically-motivated violence, ranging from murder, rape, and torture to the forcible removal of populations.
@AryanaUnited azeris of azerbaijan have great respect to talysh, my wife is talysh, even though we grew up in same neighborhood in Baku. I also have lot of persian friends, we share similar culture, cuisine, religion, even many common words. I just don't understand where racist nuts like hatched from
@ktototamto not from what heard from people in astara, lankaran, lariq they see things differently the you. lol, if you want to see where racist nuts hatch from check out GunAz tv you will see.
@ktototamto firstly, get a dictionary and learn a meaning of phrase "ethnic cleansing" , secondly read your article yourself, there is no mention of azeris being relocated to talysh regions, but kurds, which are your beloved aryans. Aliev as ethnic kurd himself relies on kurds as his support base, thousands of kurds were given wast areas of land in my home town (where my parents from ) of Ganja. All religious matters in azerbaijan are controlled by so called talysh molla mafia
Talyshi ye ahange?
yashil17 2 months ago
free talysh, tati, cuhuri, lezgi, chaxur, tsabaran, avar. Azerbaycan shall preserve the languages and preserve the "cultures". They are a great part of Azerbaycan culture and history.Azerbaycan can still be a Turkish republic but in same time hold on to the beauty of the Caucasus.Azerbaycan is even in the same time available to preserve the sovereignty of the republic in so many ways. vetenin esl gözelliyi biridir. suverenliyin remzi olar meselen. hech olmazsa, bir fikir ver dediklrimə, hərkim.
qatilepeshakar 9 months ago
@qatilepeshakar thses are iranian peaple:tati persians,talysh,tabarsaran are all iranian peaple not turk azari whay shouldent be with iran ,but under ur turkish rule !???u preserve tham!??u hink they are dinsinct animals!???they are iranian and ur azarbaijan means land of fire ,not turk and panturk ,ur invadors from mongolian turkistan here.
sspersian 9 months ago
free talysh persians from turkish gypsy prison of ugly aliof gay.
sspersian 1 year ago
@sspersian Talysh people are Medes, not Persians!
AryanMithra 9 months ago
@AryanMithra 1)talysh is branch of parsi pahlawi(mid persian)which have some diffrences to modern persian(tajik,daripersian or farsi).
2)there is no evidance that talysh is medes ,bc talysh language is parsi pahlawi
3)even if ur claim is true:persian and medes were both iranian tribes.only seprated by kingdoms,for a short periode later unitaed again under cyrus akhameneshid empire(persian median empire).persian medes parthian were all sam peaple,race,language ,
sspersian 9 months ago
persian devide to 3 periode by evlolution and chnages:1)old persian2)mid persian(pahlawi,parsi pahlawi) up to sasanid persian empire finished by arab invasion3)modern persian(parsi dari or farsi or tajiki) originate and became in east part of iran(khorasan,afghanistan,tajikestan)by work of khorasani persian poets like:ferdosi tusi,which later dominate in othar parts of iran became as official language of iran.
wht is your concept of persian and medes,and for ur claim bring some reasons ,ok!
sspersian 9 months ago
talysh dilect:It includes many dialects usually divided into three main clusters: Northern (in Azerbaijan and Iran), Central (Iran) and Southern (Iran). There are a wide variety of estimates for the number of Talyshi speakers with reliable estimates running anywhere from 500,000 to 1 million. Talyshi is partially(90%), but not fully, intelligible with respect to official Persian(farsi/dari). Talysh is classified as "vulnerable" by UNESCO's Atlas of the World's Languages
sspersian 9 months ago
@AryanMithra diffrent bw official persian and talysh is like turkman with turkish of turkey.its like u say turkman is not turkic !!!!!
talysh:is a dilect of pure old persianparsi pahlawi which preserve from arabic influence due to isilation or caspian region like:mazani,gilak dilects of iran.while official persian which u see in iran,afghanistan,tajikestan is called modern persian or dari persian which have some arabic,turko mongolid mix.talysh is a dilect or accent of big persin group.
sspersian 9 months ago
@sspersian Talysh is preety much a direct offspring of Median language! It has nothing to do with Middle and New Persian! It was related to Old Persian, and that's it. And yes, they are still an Iranid people, like Persians. So we're related. B. Habib and G. Asatrian are two researchers who mean they are Medes. Look at Talysh words! They are not Persian, but of Median origin! Spaka = Dog, is a Median word that you still find in the Talysh language.
AryanMithra 9 months ago
they are more similarity of taylysh to modern persian than to kurdish,baluch,while kurd speak talysh cant even undrestand but if u speak offial persian a talysh which never staudied official persian can undrestan 90% ,for example i am khorasani iranian which official persian originated from khorasan dari i undrestand talysh songs by 90%.
its same language but diffrent accent:u think persian is just the accent of tehran!???they r only 20 accnts in khorasan
sspersian 9 months ago
@AryanMithra so if talysh are not persian who are!????
talysh,mazani,gilak ar purest persian by tradition,languge,race.they are the only today pahlawi persian speakers.while rest speak dari or farsi(khorasani origin persian)
sspersian 9 months ago
@sspersian And look at Talysh traditions, those are deffinetely not Persian.
But they are more related to other Median people's traditions; Azeris (In Iran, Azeris in Azeribaijan have forgotten their heritage), Kurds, Balochs and so on.
Ask Talysh people themselves, and see if they identify themselves with Persians, or with they forefather Diyakku and the Medes.
AryanMithra 9 months ago
1)which tradition is more similar to those!??what do you mean persian tradition is diffrent ?from which area!??if u look at clothes,tradition of persians gropus:from shiraz,isfaha,yazd,khorasan,mazandaran,gilan ,tajiks,lorsvillages u see talysh dree like them,dance like tham,look like them .
2)azari which azari turk one!??who have diffrent clothes,languge,dance baluch very diffrent clothes and looks,
sspersian 9 months ago
@AryanMithra and there is no evidance of baluch or kurd being medes either.
baluch ar more probebly bing mix of scythian iranian with some old semetic tribes of iran(illamates).
sspersian 9 months ago
Assyrian records, which in fact provide the earliest evidence for Persian and Median presence on the Iranian Plateau, give a good chronology but only an approximate geographical indication of ancient Persians. In these records of the 9th century BCE, Parsuwash (along with Matai of Median) are first mentioned in the area of Lake Urmia .so medes distinct ,and persian itselfe have many words from medes,but there is not even one evidance,expet its distinct 2500 years ago.
sspersian 9 months ago
@AryanMithra and its very wrong to say talysh,baluch,kurd are medes language or dilect bc<if you check the family tree of iranian languge you will see that medes itselfe was a seprate dilect while talysh is seprate,kurdish is seprate,baluch is seprate so how they can be medes while medes is another branch and not even undrestandble by thses!??
sspersian 9 months ago
@AryanMithra u mention traditons:just tyrpe persian shirazi,isfahani,other dance in youtube and see also theire traditional clothes of shiraz(capital of far province of iran) u see its exaclty like this video.while type baluch u see its has not even 1% similarity of dance,clothes,looks,kurdish also look difrent in dance and clothes
sspersian 9 months ago
wooow nice clip ^^ thanks for upload :P
im a Persian for North Talysh ( fake azerbaijan ) freedom for all persians from talysh
Long life all the persian and iranian and all arian people :)
FreeNorthIran 1 year ago
Azerbaijan is run by a satellite Turkish government.
They are brainwashing good Azari Iranic Persian people to think they are Torks.
But how much happier would Talyshistan be under the regime of crazy Khamenei (Arab dog)??? I wish for Talysh and Azari (they're IRANIAN BROTHERS..) freedom and peace.
Almost all Iranian peoples are suffering in some way.
Why specifically us? Why is all this garbage happening to us? Why are Arab countries prospering and we are their toy?
Down with the IRI!
PersoAryanism 1 year ago
@PersoAryanism Which Arab country is prospering? Severe class division, rampant poverty, Western-backed dictatorships and humiliated militaries are what the Arab World offers the world today.
If the IRI has done one good thing is to transform Iran into a regional power no Arab country can match, even with their fancy F-16s and shiny tall buildings.
Marduniya 1 year ago 2
@Marduniya thats not true. IRI has isolated us from everyone, which is worst then having a weak military. your turning the whole world against yourself. kindda beats the purpose.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited By "everyone", you mean America and the EU. Relations with the East is just fine.
You put the blame solely upon the IR and yet you leave America and Israel's constant demonization of Iran out of your comment.
99999999988888888 1 year ago
@99999999988888888 With who, relations with Russia has detoriiated. and countries like torkey and brazil are trying to milk us. r kidding me man most of the blame is on IR.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@PersoAryanism
Arab countries are not prospering! they are like a prostitute selling their body!
The western oil companies give a minimal percentage of the oil revenue to these countries. And they trick them to spend that money on stupid things so the west gets that money back! Iran how ever has been achieving much technological and scientific progress and if one would go to Iran would see that people are also not poor!!! Drinking boos and sexual escapade is not prosperity!!!!!
Mithradatesi 1 year ago
@Mithradatesi I see your point brother.
PersoAryanism 1 year ago
@Mithradatesi People in Iran are not POOR? lol. Iran Is not Tehran (even Tehran has large gaps between rich and POOr), but still maybe you should travel to baloochestan, kordestan, kerman, even khoozestan.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited
there are also poor people in Germany,Holland, England, let go Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece! Have you any idea about this???? What do you expect from a country that has been under boycott for 30 years????? Let them open the way and the doors for Iranian people and then see were they will end up!
This is all about oil!!!! they dont want us to control it!
Mithradatesi 1 year ago
these lands were supposed to be returned to Iran under the infamous shameful treaty of Torkamanchai by the year of 1997!!! however as ever the number one enemy of Iran the British turds with the help of Margarette Thatcher and their servant the Russian Gorbachov gave these formerly Iranian states (the 17 cities of Khazakh) their autonomy and hence robbed our nation yet one more time of their rights.....Death to UK
gpverducci 1 year ago
@gpverducci
17 cities of Qafqaz(Caucasus) and Nakhjavan!!!
Mithradatesi 1 year ago
@Mithradatesi i know mate i was just trying to speak my heart out and how hateful i am towards the Russians and evil masters the British bastards...it really gets to me this Torkamanchai and Golestan treaty.....mohaede nangine torchamanchai.....still to this day amongst merchants and business men alike there's a saying when someone wants to cheat the other, the latter turns around and says: Ba ma moahede torkamanchai mibandi???
gpverducci 1 year ago
Free Talysh from Aliyiev republic.
free talysh
Lankaran, Astra need to come back to mother Iran.
did you guys know in 1993 Talysh declared independence from Aliev republic. but then Aliev republic invaded in the most Barbaric way and annexed it.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago 2
@AryanaUnited
Not only Talysh but also Arran(Alievs republic) should join Mother(Iran Zamin)!
Mithradatesi 1 year ago
@Mithradatesi well, we dont want more wanna be torks, we already have troubles with the ones we have. but talysh want be part of Iran, their leader openly says so.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited I was there , in 1993, Aliev came to Lankaran with few people form his entourage, that's it - no army, no special forces. People of Lankaran met him with great enthusiasm, he spoke with them openly and asked them to expel all enemies of republic. It were people of Lankaran who disarmed and expelled forces of so called talysh mugan republic. IS that what u call most Barbaric way?? Get yr facts straight.
ktototamto 1 year ago
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AryanaUnited 1 year ago
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AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited are you retard ?? They haven't separated, even though they had chance to do it, despite constant instigation from armenia and iran. I gave you straight facts and you replied by crapping out yet another portion of plain chauvinist lies.
ktototamto 1 year ago
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AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited wow.. get some mental help, you definitely need it. Only imbecile losers like you resort to chauvinism to support their otherwise non-existent self-confidence.
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto yes all you can do swear, nice i guess thats rational and self confidence. thats typical of people like you who lack education and basic sense of rational.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited i didn't swear at you, I put you a diagnosis - u are mentally disordered person, just like any other racist, chauvinist or fascist person is. Because emotionally healthy person can not be any of mentioned above. As I said, get some help, and get real.
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto lol, how am i racist, because i said the fact which you do not like, make me racist. is this your arguement. fact is fact, talysh declared independence from baku in 1993. wether you like it or not. secondly, torks have a policey of the torkification of talysh people and other ethnicities in that country. and this makes me a racist for stating the truth, i see your rational.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited Firstly you are chauvinist because you constantly insult other elasticities. Secondly, you didn't give a single fact, only lies. So called Talysh Mugan republic was declared not by talysh people, but by bunch of gangsters, which was confronted and forced to flee bu talysh people. When Aliev came to Lankaran, he didn't have a single (!) armed man with him! He relied purely on support of talysh people. This is historical fact. Learn some history little chauvinist.
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto type, elasticities supposed to be ethnicities
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto again you only call me chauvinist because i gave you facts, i send you a link that support my arguement which you cannot deny. quote me once were i insulted an ethnicity. saying torks are chauvinist is not insult or a swear word, it is characterisic. each arguement you give you need to show support, by just saying them does not make it true. period.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited How does article about single arrest in 2007 become a fact about events in 1993?? That's all you could find? Even simple google search will give you thousands articles about human rights abuses in IRI and ethnic oppression. It is s shame to see people like u trying to spread more hatred in middle east, as if there wasn't enough, when we need more unity than ever.
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto that was not about 1993, if you read the article it has talked about ethnic cleansing with talysh and how people from other parts of your country were taken to talyshistan. or how economically and politically talysh are being discriminated against because they are ethnic iranians. read carefully. 2. I am not spreading hatred, by closing your eyes problems do not go away. 3. i did not say iran does not have problems offcoarse it does.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited talysh mollacrats control lucrative religious commerce, while kurds literally rule the country. So if thre is anyone to complain about discrimination, it is azeris, not talysh or kurds.
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto lol, your just writing stuff, were are the facts. give me something that supports ur argument. see you only talk, i give references.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited Fact about kurdish settlements is form your article!! Fact about talysh mollas easily verifiable, just search for Allahshukur Pashazadeh, who has beed grand mufti since KGB times. All imams and mollas in azerbaijan are appointed by him and all of them are form talysh.
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto 4. we r talking about ur country, if u wanna talk about iran thats another issue. u cannot justify your countries brutalities and cultural genecide by saying others do it also.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
firstly, get a dictionary and learn a meaning of phrase "ethnic cleansing" , secondly read your article yourself, there is no mention of azeris being relocated to talysh regions, but kurds, which are your beloved aryans. Aliev as ethnic kurd himself relies on kurds as his support base, thousands of kurds were given wast areas of land in my home town (where my parents from ) of Ganja. All religious matters in azerbaijan are controlled by so called talysh molla mafia
ktototamto 1 year ago
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AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@ktototamto lol aliev being kurd. ( show me proof). two i did nt say azeris were being relocated their i said other ethnic groups, this is an example of ethnic cleansing.
ps. your sources need to be reliable third party sources like mind.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@ktototamto
definition of ethnic cleansing: Ethnic cleansing is a euphemism that has come to be used broadly to describe all forms of ethnically-motivated violence, ranging from murder, rape, and torture to the forcible removal of populations.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@AryanaUnited azeris of azerbaijan have great respect to talysh, my wife is talysh, even though we grew up in same neighborhood in Baku. I also have lot of persian friends, we share similar culture, cuisine, religion, even many common words. I just don't understand where racist nuts like hatched from
ktototamto 1 year ago
@ktototamto not from what heard from people in astara, lankaran, lariq they see things differently the you. lol, if you want to see where racist nuts hatch from check out GunAz tv you will see.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
@ktototamto firstly, get a dictionary and learn a meaning of phrase "ethnic cleansing" , secondly read your article yourself, there is no mention of azeris being relocated to talysh regions, but kurds, which are your beloved aryans. Aliev as ethnic kurd himself relies on kurds as his support base, thousands of kurds were given wast areas of land in my home town (where my parents from ) of Ganja. All religious matters in azerbaijan are controlled by so called talysh molla mafia
ktototamto 1 year ago