Seriously... i think that this is possibly a animation-technique to make it look like they are really fast moving... or how you would do it as an animator.... there a around 25-30 frames a sec... you have to use tricks. :)
I noticed at normal speed, so maybe he just has great observational skills? Just because he noticed it doesn't necessarily mean he has "too much time on his hands".
Actually, this is what happened: To create lightsabers, a SFX artist must go frame by frame and rotoscope the blade. When the lightsaber goes behind the arm, you must trace around the obscured object. Someone must have gotten lazy and not traced the top of the arm. There are even WAY worse mistakes in Episode two.
Credibility: I have made a lightsaber fight on my channel.
There's a scene in episode 3 where Anakin is wanting to kill Palpatine but doesn't. If you know anything about after effects you can see that the lightsaber is transparent through anakins body for a few frames
Well ya it is a mistake, everyone makes them from time to time, and it is still a very cool fight in a cool movie and with very cool music, so who cares actually.
This is another area where non-visible in normal time vision comes into play. Watching this clip in normal time is impossible to notice the gap of the blade because natural elements of vision prohibit the human eye from detecting it. A similar such happening is in sound editing where there are points of sound inaudible to human ears, yet on a mixing / editing /sfx rig it can be manipulated beyond
there's still ANOTHER rare bit, it happens at the scene when the generator room door opens and darth maul kicks obi wan to the left: take a good look at obi-wan's face! (it's a low resolution blurry picture of ewan mc gregor pasted on the stunt guy) HOPE YOU SEE IT AND POST IT
not going to lie, its barely noticable when you watch the movie normally. im a huge star wars fan and im all good for perfection but i really dont see why this should bother anyone. you canbarely tell when you just watch the movie
Do you really think the special effect guys are going to make such a mistake in the final fight of a big budget movie? No way. This is done on purpose.
The back-to-front move by Obi-Wan goes by really fast and the viewer has to be able to follow the exact movement of the lightsaber or else they won't understand what happened. If you look closely, the original sword is mostly hidden behind Obi-Wan's back. So they tweak it to make the action easier on the eyes. It happens often in movies.
you have to be the biggest nit for posting something like this, when u first watched the movie were you looking for stuff like this? your unreal, if u watch it in regular time, you dont notice anything, LOLFAIL YOUTUBE VIDEO
thats pittyfull cause thats the best fight in all of the films and that exchange between maul and obi wan where the goof happens is def the best saber exchange, they way shouldnt have messed it up like that.
Well, to be perfectly fair, everything in that scene's kinda moving too fast for a goof like that to be noticed. Well spotted though. I sure as hell didn't notice.
Uhm, I don't know of any special computer that inserts the Lightsaber blades. The technique used for this is called RotoScoping. There were people (called roto artists) who painted or masked the blade on every frame. This could be a mistake, an artistic decision (because the motion didn't look natural) or a mishap in Mask Interpolation (in the end also a mistake)...
@RicardoMusch Can be. What do you mean by unnatural motion? In a sword fight? A blade is a blade, it is where it is, in my opinion it should be looking like a lightsabre blade, no matter what.
@jedighost72 I agree with you, but sometimes when RotoScoping a Lighsaber blade it just does not seem natural when you play back the footage. The saber is not just a blade that disappears or fans when you swing it on camera... it's become a white solid core wich doesn't have motion blur etc... So what seems natural with a normal blade can seem to be a weird movement when exposing the blade. I think this was just that...
This is interesting, but meaningless. I don't consider this a "flaw" I saw this in the theater 6 times, and a couple of times on DVD. Never noticed it. Doubtful I'll even think about it the next time I watch either.
@GBev2K Well, and I have noticed it right away - so people's alertness is different. Just because you haven't noticed it does not make it meaningless, or more meaningless than any other flaw or error that fans find. I'm a sharpshooter too, maybe that helps.
wow, good spotting! i've never known this before. it's crazy that nobody noticed this... i thought every film has been gone over frame-by-frame by now.
@teknokrat1 I thought the same - and I have noticed the error while simply watching the DVD, not going thorugh it frame by frame, so I was shocked, nobody ever pointed this out. I must have good eyes then to have spotted this.
Seriously... i think that this is possibly a animation-technique to make it look like they are really fast moving... or how you would do it as an animator.... there a around 25-30 frames a sec... you have to use tricks. :)
Shab0w 10 hours ago
@Shab0w Your logic fails you young padawan, missing sword parts equal fast moving? Be mindful of your thoughts....
jedighost72 10 hours ago
nice point..but this action is so fast..you just cant see it..great action though..
davycrocketful 5 days ago
Does it honestly make a difference?
TheGuyThatsAwesome 1 week ago
Te magyar vagy?Durva az akcentusod :D
ZomBeeZ88 1 week ago
I noticed at normal speed, so maybe he just has great observational skills? Just because he noticed it doesn't necessarily mean he has "too much time on his hands".
MBGamingLegends 1 week ago
Well George Lucas sure fucked up, didn't he?
WookieRebellion501 2 weeks ago
Actually, this is what happened: To create lightsabers, a SFX artist must go frame by frame and rotoscope the blade. When the lightsaber goes behind the arm, you must trace around the obscured object. Someone must have gotten lazy and not traced the top of the arm. There are even WAY worse mistakes in Episode two.
Credibility: I have made a lightsaber fight on my channel.
TheMoviePresident 2 weeks ago
There's a scene in episode 3 where Anakin is wanting to kill Palpatine but doesn't. If you know anything about after effects you can see that the lightsaber is transparent through anakins body for a few frames
TheMoviePresident 2 weeks ago
Well ya it is a mistake, everyone makes them from time to time, and it is still a very cool fight in a cool movie and with very cool music, so who cares actually.
ComanderScar 3 weeks ago
good job. fuck ppl who call u a nerd for thus
knightschwartz 3 weeks ago
forever is one word.
GOHANrider100 3 weeks ago
This is another area where non-visible in normal time vision comes into play. Watching this clip in normal time is impossible to notice the gap of the blade because natural elements of vision prohibit the human eye from detecting it. A similar such happening is in sound editing where there are points of sound inaudible to human ears, yet on a mixing / editing /sfx rig it can be manipulated beyond
crankjai 4 weeks ago
There are hundreds of little flaws in every movie. Of course you'll notice them if you look hard enough.
CyanoKhaar 1 month ago
definitely an artistic decision
mitmaster 1 month ago
Have you nothing better to do...?
gnosis1967 1 month ago
Everyone is saying good job and all....i think someone has WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY TOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH FREE TIME on their hands to look for that
gr187 1 month ago 8
Watched the entire movies frame by frame, eh? Good boy. THX deserves it.
LePatay 2 months ago 8
@LePatay i didnt, i caught this at normal speed.
jedighost72 1 month ago
@jedighost72 i call bullshit on that...lol
DI3LAVADI3 1 week ago
Good eye! I never would had caught that!
KillTheFear 2 months ago
@comradeuk91 i'd rather like to attract some traffic.
jedighost72 2 months ago
i guess u hav alot of spare time
Jackster701 2 months ago
@Jackster701 not really, but had some...
jedighost72 2 months ago
wot a wierdo
Jackster701 2 months ago
@Jackster701 I'd rather call myself a good spotter
jedighost72 2 months ago
i've done a fair bit of work with rotoscoping, and mistakes can be made now and then, but not for a film like this.
looyee27 2 months ago
@looyee27 that is the point!
jedighost72 2 months ago
um...it's called USING THE FORCE...duh
Aquaspleen 2 months ago
1. Computer doing VFX on it's own. Lulz.
2. They (ILM) aren't aware of it. Lulz. Roto artists or compositors are examining the whole sequence frame by frame.
3. You cannot see that missing part when you're watching this at normal speed.
4. "Weird" alignment of the blade could be done on purpose. For some extra "punch", or sth.
I don't think they could screw up something like that. Star Wars = Lucas. Lucas = ILM.
VFX done by computer alone - I'll never forget that :D
szczepanik325 2 months ago
@szczepanik325 1., you know what i meant.
2., oh really? read the first notes under the video.
3., that is how i noticed it, not by slowing down.
4., BS. a laserblade would never be out of alignment.
This is just plain ignorant and should have been correctly done. End of discussion. :)
jedighost72 2 months ago
umm... HUMANS do the special effects, WITH computers. the actual computer doesn't do the special effects on its own.
Mozezrox 2 months ago
well, exuuuuuuuzzzze me!!!!!!!
leonarddaccardi 2 months ago
stupid mistake. and it IS a mistake. don't know why anyone is trying to defend it. IT IS A MISTAKE!
mcoates04 2 months ago
@mcoates04 EXACTLY!
jedighost72 2 months ago
thanks you just ruined a iconic moment of my childhood (Y)
sik2dastar 2 months ago
@sik2dastar If that's an iconic moment of your childhood, I pity you.
Kainlarsen 2 months ago
nerd
bryanttillman 3 months ago
the new light sabers are more steady than the old ones. its just the old tech no flaw
schwalbstar 3 months ago
Eh, I've seen worse mistakes in the trilogies. It's really just too fast to even notice.
hal1992 3 months ago
that was the dark side of the force clouding your vision, GET A LIFE, dude
julianzolo 3 months ago
@julianzolo got one. 220k visitors on Youtube.
jedighost72 2 months ago
dont be so picky man, it doesnt matter, star wars is still the best movie saga in history, period.
Jonesyboii96 3 months ago
@Jonesyboii96 true.
jedighost72 2 months ago
Barely noticeable at full speed.
RiFFxxx 3 months ago
there's still ANOTHER rare bit, it happens at the scene when the generator room door opens and darth maul kicks obi wan to the left: take a good look at obi-wan's face! (it's a low resolution blurry picture of ewan mc gregor pasted on the stunt guy) HOPE YOU SEE IT AND POST IT
tikvision 3 months ago
I ALWAYS thought they were using those green sticks for this fight!
tikvision 3 months ago
not going to lie, its barely noticable when you watch the movie normally. im a huge star wars fan and im all good for perfection but i really dont see why this should bother anyone. you canbarely tell when you just watch the movie
dega 3 months ago
Do you really think the special effect guys are going to make such a mistake in the final fight of a big budget movie? No way. This is done on purpose.
The back-to-front move by Obi-Wan goes by really fast and the viewer has to be able to follow the exact movement of the lightsaber or else they won't understand what happened. If you look closely, the original sword is mostly hidden behind Obi-Wan's back. So they tweak it to make the action easier on the eyes. It happens often in movies.
bsolmaz13 3 months ago
@bsolmaz13 that is just an excuse. i say BS. it should and could have been done properly!
jedighost72 2 months ago
Eh movie still sucks.
amazingonion 4 months ago
omg, enough already. we get it. phantom sucked.
GeekTroup 4 months ago
you have to be the biggest nit for posting something like this, when u first watched the movie were you looking for stuff like this? your unreal, if u watch it in regular time, you dont notice anything, LOLFAIL YOUTUBE VIDEO
brentras15 4 months ago
@brentras15 I did notice it in realtime, bro. I'm a sharpshooter. Obviously you are not.
jedighost72 2 months ago
thats pittyfull cause thats the best fight in all of the films and that exchange between maul and obi wan where the goof happens is def the best saber exchange, they way shouldnt have messed it up like that.
SpotTheSteez 4 months ago
@SpotTheSteez Exactly, you got my point.
jedighost72 2 months ago
get a life srsly >.> it's a 0,1 sec flaw
SillyScyllia 4 months ago
@SillyScyllia I dont care how small, but i noticed it in realtime.
jedighost72 2 months ago
lucas owned.
pafcden 4 months ago
Well, to be perfectly fair, everything in that scene's kinda moving too fast for a goof like that to be noticed. Well spotted though. I sure as hell didn't notice.
Gyarretto7 4 months ago
@Gyarretto7 an honest man's words.
jedighost72 2 months ago
Changing that will not change anything. But nice spotting this little error.
Kleavers 4 months ago
@Kleavers thanks!
jedighost72 2 months ago
Húúú bazmeg nem is vagy magyar mi?
Shazeen82 5 months ago
@Shazeen82 de. csak amíg van 15M magyar, addig van 1Milliárd angoul tudó a neten... Csak 60-szoros a különbség.
jedighost72 2 months ago
@jedighost72 Nem is arra gondoltam barátom, csak naggyon "magyarul" beszéled az angolt :) kell egy kis külföldi gyakorlat és javulni fog :)
Shazeen82 2 months ago
They still have to paint it in there some animator probably missed it
nickdrummer2004 5 months ago
@nickdrummer2004 probably.
jedighost72 2 months ago
IT'S A TRAP!!!
psychonaut25 5 months ago
Uhm, I don't know of any special computer that inserts the Lightsaber blades. The technique used for this is called RotoScoping. There were people (called roto artists) who painted or masked the blade on every frame. This could be a mistake, an artistic decision (because the motion didn't look natural) or a mishap in Mask Interpolation (in the end also a mistake)...
RicardoMusch 5 months ago 8
@RicardoMusch Can be. What do you mean by unnatural motion? In a sword fight? A blade is a blade, it is where it is, in my opinion it should be looking like a lightsabre blade, no matter what.
jedighost72 5 months ago
@jedighost72 I agree with you, but sometimes when RotoScoping a Lighsaber blade it just does not seem natural when you play back the footage. The saber is not just a blade that disappears or fans when you swing it on camera... it's become a white solid core wich doesn't have motion blur etc... So what seems natural with a normal blade can seem to be a weird movement when exposing the blade. I think this was just that...
RicardoMusch 5 months ago
@jedighost72 that is the point.
jedighost72 2 months ago
@RicardoMusch correct.
jedighost72 2 months ago
this guy is so right
brokendowngolfcart 5 months ago
@brokendowngolfcart thanks!
jedighost72 5 months ago
I see it. They should fix it but it goes so fast, they probably just aren't aware if it.
sammycut1 5 months ago
@sammycut1 Exactly! That is why i made this video.
jedighost72 5 months ago
Meh, I've seen this movie a couple of times and I've never noticed it.
So does it really matter?
Howler54 5 months ago
@Howler54 Yeah ive never noticed this and ive seen this film tons of times. It just movies fast to take notice
taabuu2342 5 months ago
This is interesting, but meaningless. I don't consider this a "flaw" I saw this in the theater 6 times, and a couple of times on DVD. Never noticed it. Doubtful I'll even think about it the next time I watch either.
GBev2K 5 months ago
@GBev2K Well, and I have noticed it right away - so people's alertness is different. Just because you haven't noticed it does not make it meaningless, or more meaningless than any other flaw or error that fans find. I'm a sharpshooter too, maybe that helps.
jedighost72 5 months ago
wow, good spotting! i've never known this before. it's crazy that nobody noticed this... i thought every film has been gone over frame-by-frame by now.
teknokrat1 5 months ago
@teknokrat1 I thought the same - and I have noticed the error while simply watching the DVD, not going thorugh it frame by frame, so I was shocked, nobody ever pointed this out. I must have good eyes then to have spotted this.
jedighost72 5 months ago