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  • @thewabbiteer First you state "...misuse of allopathic medicine is more dangerous than most would have us believe." That does not make naturopathy correct, nor does saying that clearly something in wrong due to 20th century chronic disease improve your argument. Then going on to argue your point without any evidence; stating "EVIDENCE" when it is for a completely different topic doesn't make it evidence for yours. Provide me with real, testable evidence, and I will gladly change my position.

  • A Naturopath is someone you goto who will tell you

    which vitamins,minerals and herbs to take for a price!

  • @TheFriendlyEngineer Yes; I do have an agenda. My agenda is called "Critical Thinking." However, it also seems you have an agenda; an agenda doesn't prove anything, nor does it disprove anything, it is meaningless. Instead of using logical fallacy's to "prove" you wrong, I will actually respond. Yes, lawsuits do happen to the Pharmaceutical Companies, sometimes with justification sometimes without. That does not prove Naturopathy as legitimate. Provide actual evidence instead of fallacy's?

  • seems like a type of Eastern belief of medicine and treatment.

  • Good video! I wanted to study traditional naturopathy for a while but what I noticed is the more I read about the naturopathy on the internet, the more i realized the constant arguements between traditional naturopaths and naturopathic phsyicians. imo, they should stop bugging eachother and let them do their own things

  • Look, pseudoscience!

  • @AvengedIII Look,clearly you have an agenda here,you know nothing about what you speak.Go back to your university of wikipedia and get your knowledge there lol.Apparently you need to wake up and observe the 65000 lawsuits against drug companies within a 6 year period for deaths.The drug doctors/md's prescribed drugs like vioxx,avandia,accutane,actos,z­oloft,paxil etc that have killed thousands of people per year and most drugs contain dangerous side effects.Suppressing symptoms? Sounds marketing

  • @AvengedIII Sorry, but misuse of allopathic medicine is more dangerous than most would have us beleive. The 20th century has seen more chronic disease increase than anyother, CLEARLY something is wrong. By giving the body the compounds it needs, allowing it to detox the body rebalances and goes to a state of natural equilibrium. Consider plants when lacking nutrients show EVIDENCE of this. Why cannot you accept that humans if lacking nutrients do the same. Why is this pseudoscience?

  • It is important to consider here the traditional naturopaths who practice classical and pure naturopathy , without the need to interpret and treat in an allopathic manner. In this way clients/patients are treated holistically , without the limitations of the allopathic lens. Naturopaths actually vary widely in how they treat people, and in what methods they use. Natjuropaths experienced a split in their ranks about 70 years ago- there are two distinct kinds, both potentially good.

  • @Heddy451 great explanation. I'm a traditional naturopath who started out studying as a naturopathic physician in a 4-year naturopathic medical school. I decided that the traditional route was more palatable for me. I appreciate that you made this distinction -- as both play a positive role in the alternative medicine field.

  • I hate conventional medicine as it only gives you temporary treatment

  • @bojanglesme I hate placebo medicine because it doesn't give you any treatment.

  • Colonforsecs, not subject to the same scrutiny as what? It is degree like any other degree. get your facts straight in future before making another erroneous comment.

  • Naturopathy is not a science, and is not subject to the same scrutiny. If you have an ailment, don't look to these people.

  • Supastar457, how on earth would you know what my qualifications are? In fact, I have a University Degree and a University Masters in Health Science. Sadly, your other information is also wrong. Check your facts in future.

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  • @Supastar457 You are a fucking idiot. Naturopathic Doctors get their degrees from accredited Colleges of Naturopathic medicine, which usually employ a FOUR YEAR educational program; JUST LIKE MDs!

    Grow a fucking brain and get your facts straight.

  • Hey, great video, what was the name of that book that you were flicking through? Thanks!

  • Nathropaths are stupid, They told me I was allergic to wheat suger and 90% of everything I ate and they told me that by poking me in the finger... like COM ON!

  • Guess what? You didn't have the right Naturopath. My Naturopath helped me and my cat...and animals don't lie. Homeopathy and Bicom. By the way I am speaking maturity. Don't know what works for someone else. Poking the finger ...if they explained could have been live blood anaylis. Look up eat right for your blood type...yes. wheat can cause bad issues later they do have a point. Finding a good Naturopath with good maners is also important.

  • Naturopath's offer a natural and holistic approach to treating a persons health issues. Natural Therapy Pages TV thoroughly recommends this as a great alternative to taking drugs to treat the symptoms of your health issues. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • but he has an accent so he seems trustworthy

  • I went to a medical conference this weekend, and found that NDs take the same courses as MDs... they just take additional courses in botany and the like. How ignorant of you.

  • Ignorant? Don't think so. They might take courses with similar names, but I can assure you, the content IS different. Look online at ND programs, most do not even have a GPA standard for entrance. The degree is largely a joke. If they take the same courses (PLUS "additional" classes), why can't they prescribe REAL medications? The only stuff they can give you are grass clippings from their lawn and tree bark. Don't be so gullible.

  • Did you know that most medications are derived from plant material? They have been synthetically altered to fit the treatment the patient needs. Naturopaths take the same chemistry, physics, biology classes as MDs. They know which properties of the plant will cure the patient... really, its no different from taking medicine (it offers the same cure in a different form). Why do you call it a joke? Do you not think that natural therapies can be used to heal people?

  • I also took the same pre-med classes--I DON"T consider myself a doctor. They BECOME a doctor when they complete REAL MEDICAL SCHOOL courses.

  • And for the record, they can prescribe medications. If some guy walks in with a sky high blood pressure, they're not gonna say, "Here, eat some berries."

    I am not familiar with "online ND programs." I heard directly from an ND student attending a naturopathic college. You'd be surprised to hear about their workload. If you're commenting on the online degree, then I'd agree with you, it doesn't sound credible.

  • When I say "prescribe medications" I mean ALL medications--not just particular ones. I think most things described as naturopathic are unnecessary. Especially cleansing and detox scams (ALL cleansing products are worthless).

  • I don't know, difference of opinions I guess. I use a saline rinse with a stuffy nose and it clears all the nasal passages... instant relief for congestion. I would choose this option over taking OTC drugs to solve a simple breathing issue. Obviously if it was a bacterial/viral infection, antibacterials would be needed... but Vitamin C is considered a natural antibacterial... and it's cured polio and tetanus in the past. If the treatment works, I'll take it, though I prefer the natural route.

  • Wow. That wasn't an exaggerated generalization at all...

  • naturopathy can cure Aids, trust me

  • I am sure you have proof of that, bojanglesme. Or, are you like ALL the other Naturopathic Nuts out there that make absurd claims without one iota of proof? I think the latter is true. Prove your BS comments. NO ANECDOTAL "Proof". REAL SCIENTIFIC PROOF. Didn't think so.

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  • Nutrition can help relieve the feeling of being inanimate (Physiologically speaking of course)

    Depression is a psychological aspect which involves fear or fears. psychological deflects cannot be cured by physical entities, including nutrition of course; even the powerful homeopathy is impotent (Powerful because it works by employing essences).

  • Being inanimate is different than being depressed.

  • I mean to write defects not deflects (It must have been a spell checker thing)

  • Other kinds of therapies like homeopathy, and 'spiritual' vibrational healing movements, aren't part of the Naturopathy degree. Naturopathy is evidence based medicine only.

  • 'BrendanIsCool', 'big boys', 'shut your fucking mouth'... lol are you 12 years old? YouTube is full of all sorts.

    You really think dietetics are bullshit? Never studied any kind of nutrition huh? Hmm, well our bodies use food as fuel... quality of the fuel doesn't matter? lol

    Herbal medicine doesnt work? even though most pharmaceutics are derived from plants? even though some can kill a human? even though St Johns Wort is clinically proven to be effective on moderate depression as SSRIs?

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  • or do you follow the attitude of Heroic Medicine? seems like it.

    Seems like you have been brainwashed by an old professor that gew up in the Miracle Drug era.

  • Also, most teachers at my school are doctors with Naturopathy degrees. It makes sense to study all forms of medicine, not just one. If you only understand one form of medicine, that's all you can offer to your patients, when that may not be what they need at that time. We help so many people avoid surgeries like hysterectomy, gallbladder etc just with nutrition interventions. Youd think a professional doctor would want to avoid invasive surgeries where possible?

  • Not much? Do you know in depth nutrition, do you understand herbal medicine? Are you qualified in ANYthing?? Naturopaths heal people's conditions with SCIENCE and we focus on the long term cause, not pump people full of drugs.

  • I'm a mudd-fudd and I can assure you, this is bullshit

  • I have no idea what a mudd-fudd is.

    And Naturopathy isn't bullshit, it's an ancient form of medicine. You may be into heroic medicine but it does more harm than good. Biomedicine is needed for some people... you can't rely purely on herbs & supplements for absolutely everything. BUT Naturopathy is necessary in the field of medicine because it addresses so many illnesses BEFORE they require pharmaceuticals.

    I hate it when people are sooo uneducated and brainwashed

  • I have an MD and am board certified in critical care/surgery and a PhD in microbiology

    I'm telling you. My medicine is real and preventative

    don't call me uneducated and brainwashed, my brain could fucking melt yours

  • That's a really professional thing to say.

    I was speaking of the benefits of Naturopathy, which you DON'T know much about.

    Did I say biomedicine couldn't be beneficial or preventative? NO.

    I hope to God that you aren't responsible for people's lives because you're so immature. I have never heard of such an educated person speaking so carelessly and sounding so immature

  • to brend

    its no point, they couldnt abandon their wackjob excuse for bullshit i9f it was killing them from exma (however you spell it)

  • It's spelled eczema, and Naturopaths learn about all medical conditions, including eczema. Most cases of eczema are mild to moderate, and if somebody had chronic and infected eczema, that was life threatening, a Naturopath would send them to a HOSPITAL.

  • explain BSE and how you'd manage a critically ill patient

  • I am still at University, I am not yet a qualified Naturopath, so that would be inappropriate for me to type things that could be taken as advice on how to treat an illness. Though if someone was critically ill, due to ANY illness, any qualified Naturopath would call them an ambulance. If there was anything further that the Naturopath could do, they would work in conjunction with the person's doctors.

  • and we would nod our heads and then forget everything they had just said. when the shit hits the fan, the big boys are always here to practice real medicine

  • I can't believe the way you speak if you're actually a professional, you're so immature. I scares me to imagine you being responsible for a patient.

    And you don't think dietetics & nutrition are important for everybody's health? A lot of the teachers at my school are Naturopaths & they don't have any problems working with doctors, because most doctors aren't ignorant & understand the importance of avoiding pharmaceuticals where possible. You must have had a bizarre education.

  • you shut your fucking mouth

    you'd better learn how hierarchy works

    all this shit is a joke, numerous trials have found no benefit from these, "therapies" and the, "education" recieved is inadequate to provide proper care or to understand dynamics of illness

  • Actually, trials have proven that they work. Try using pubmed, or surely you have a high tech research database with an organisation, since you're a 'researcher' lol. And yes, we understand the dynamics of illnesses, probably because we have to study human illnesses for 4 years.

    You have some kind of severe issue and I hope you sort it out. I don't believe you're a real physician, so immature, foul language & bizarre statements. I've never met a doctor anything like that. lol conversation over

  • You need to learn the difference between a 'whackjob' and a Naturopath. Naturopaths study evidence based medicine, Naturopaths study SCIENCE. Naturopathy is a HEALTH SCIENCE degree.

    If you honestly think that Naturopathy modalities such as nutritional therapy, herbal medicine and BASIC LIFESTYLE CHANGES... are bogus... you need to keep that opinion to yourself, as clinical trials have proven otherwise.

  • what is insulin's function

  • are you seriously trying to get me to prove myself? Anyone can google anything, how would it prove anything.

  • LOVE the video.

    Brilliant explanation, very simple and informative.

    Thank you.

  • To Yellowajah,

    Thanks for your comments. Here are a few replies to consider:

    1. Biochemicle is spelled Biochemical.

    2. Prozac only works to decrease the reuptake of serotonin It doesn't alleviate any chemical imbalance at all.

    3. And phycological treatments won't alleviate depression if it is caused by one of the other million factors that drive depression (Nutrition, hormones etc)

    4. Naturopaths are taught 'conventional medicine' as part of our training.

    Thanks for the comments.

    Stephen.

  • a component of depression is a biochemicle imbalance within the the brain (i believe seratonin? im not a medical expert) prozac works to alleviate this imbalance, along with appropriate applied psychological treatments.

    Paracetamol is a painkiller, INTENDED to alleviate the symptoms. A good doctor will treat the causation (possibly dehydration) appropriately.

    A naturopath, by definition, refrains from conventional medicine. If you want to get better, see a real doctor.

  • To yellowajah,

    in reference to the cause of depression, bio-chemicals, or chemicals period, are not related to depression. In order to know the cause of said affliction and others, one must know more than science, including allopathy or homeopathy. By the way, both types of medicine have a place and a time in healing; but allopathy must only be used as a last resource, when the methodical, essential and subtle way of homeopathy does not have the proper time to produce its results.

  • to jjojj

    like after a kid has suffered severe infection as a resulty of untreated exma and undergoes a painfull process of death?

    that was treatable, its people like you who discourage people from seek appropriate medical intervention. es, homeopathy has its place, but only as a placebo based therapy, to assert its anything more is akin to claiming evolution is false

  • You're talking garbage. Naturopaths don't prevent necessary treatments. We are about Integrational Medicine (Natural medicine combined with biomedicine). There is a time and place for biomedicine, pharmaceuticals, surgery and so forth. But it is also used unecessarily, when natural treatments would have been adequate. We don't say that natural treatments are powerful enough to cure EVERYTHING, they can just treat a lot of different things.

  • Homeopathy is not Naturopathy. Some naturopaths may practice homeopathy, but it is a separate degree.

    I do not use homeopathy. Please research Naturopathy properly before you make these uneducated comments.

  • To yellowajah:

    That reply of yours was only to what you perceived of what I wrote.

  • You have no idea what a Naturopath is, obviously.

    Naturopaths do a 4 year Bachelor of Health Science.

    The most common cause of depressed feelings is a nutritional imbalance. Our bodies, including our minds, can't function properly on today's typical diet & lifestyle.

    Please, get some education on the topic before you comment.

  • to ByeBye

    Yeah, lets not forget my dad who had chronic pain, imagine waking up feeling like your legs being sawn off most days... or when your bullied on a daily basis. if only these guys were not so selfish and would just eat well, then we wouldnt have to put up with their incessant cries for help and suicide attempts

  • I have seen many people cured of chronic pain through Naturopathy, and I have also seen people who require painkillers, antiinflammatory drugs and so forth. Each person's body and illnesses are different. Also, it makes no sense to prescribe antidepressants to a child who is being severely bullied. As it's not their brain chemistry that's causing depression, it's the actual event of being bullied.

  • Naturopaths and 'good doctor's seek to treat the cause, yellowajah. Naturopaths also work WITH 'conventional doctors'. A Naturopath simply aims to use the most gentle, natural methods, before considering anything more invasive. Many Naturopaths are also GPs.

    As for depression... St Johns Wort has been clinically proven to be as effective as SSRIs (antidepressants), in treating moderate depression without suicidal thoughs or psychosis.

  • Also, diet is usually a large factor in depression. Tryptophan (an amino acid) is a precursor of serotonin, and serotonin is a precursor of melatonin. People who have depression & sleep disorders can see a real difference in their symptoms if they simply alter their diet and consume more tryptophan & tyrosine

  • Hi Steve,

    Thanks for posting this - great idea and will definitely be sending lots of people the link.

    Belle

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