Mine doesn't work. I followed your setup almost exactly, except that I'm using a 2n3773 flyback driver instead of a NST. The spark gap fires about 300 times per second at 1mm, and the rails won't arc unless they are less than 0.5mm apart. It just doesn't work. Can anyone explain this?
The rails might be annodized but that wouldn't explain the spark gap.
@toadsEATbugs I tried with annodized aluminium, it didn't worked until i remove the oxyde layer. I'm using HV from ignition coil, rectified using a vaccum tube. My laser didn't work with no rectified current. You can see the setup on my channel.
If you must have a cavity of sorts, a mirror can be placed at the spark gap end to increase the power. A sub-atmospheric N2 laser usually has a wndow and a total reflector and that's it. This is quite nice nonetheless.
@nylesteiner I understand that situation; it probably has to be measured with an instrument. I sure don't know how to do it otherwise as the laser pulse is so short and the power may already be so high as to saturate the target's ability to make a brighter spot. I hope you will post more experiments with this kind of laser.
Hm it's interesting but I really don't understand how this works, I mean the principle.I am engineer and I don't see the resonator here , or I just missed to see it on this video ,please explain ????
voanirges: The nitrogen under transverse excitation is super radiant so one pass down the channel is all that is needed. You can put a high reflector at one end to improve the output power.
so I need optical reflecting system, and natural air, with natural almost 80% nitrogen, and to make it excited via electric flashing, so it will resonate????Any boudaries, about electric input frequency, or distance between reflecyors, or angle, ok I will try this.Thanks
you don't need any kind of reflecting system. it is superradiant, one pass is all that is needed for it to lase. The HR mirror simply reflects the energy heading out the back of the laser. It requires alignment and will improve output.
There is no real practical way to make a traditional resonator for this laser due primarily to the extinction speed. Because of the superradiance a huge amount of the N2 is lofted into the upper lasing level when the spark gap discharges so it does no good to build a resonator particularly because the relaxation is on the order of milliseconds.
so only current pass in N2 will lase, hm I am surprised with that fact!What direction will be the laser beam , according to spark , sorry if I bother but I really want to create one laser like this one, but I didn't figure out from this video it's construstion, and I have never heard about such behaving of N2, I heard for He/Ne,CO2 , Ge laser but this is new to me
Yet that is right, in fact, I plan to soon put up a page showing how to make a simple uv light with a corona arc but, it is very evident that the lining up in the case of the tea laser also causes laser action.
Very specific operating requirements show that there is more going on than just a simple case of constricted uv light. Many settings produce a uv light strip without a beam.
I like this video. You did a good job with the titles and music. The music really combines well with the visual part. It is very interesting. Have you tried lasing any dyes yet?
Yes, I've tried to drive a multiplier with a disposable camera unit. It works, but the result doesn't seems like for example when you drive from the wall. Maybe, because of the frequence.
Have you proved to power the laser with a piezoelectric igniter. Probably the current is very very low, much lower than 10 mA. I have thought of that now. Anyone has proved that?
I think it isn't possible because the current should be continue(or pulsed but with relatively high frequency), and if I understood, the piezoelectric igniter provides only one pulse per second or similar.
It is simplest to build a voltage multiplier from a disposable camera unit.
Any laser radiation is coherent. In this case this is called "superradiant laser": it has a so high gain that don't need any optical resonator. However if you put a simple mirror at one end, will increase the output power by more than 100%.
I though it would require mirrors in order the light emissions to be coherent with each other. Your UV radiation must be very concentrated when a discharge occurs in the tube, so it won't require mirrors to concentrate light and cause photon emissions to be syncronized. Is that it?
Well, it wouldn't be a laser if it would produce coherent light. But then again, I didn't wanted to ask it it was a true laser or just one nonochromatic light generator focused by optics. It would seem too ofensive to ask that.
The light is produced by the ionization of nitrogen. The spark you see is the result of the discharge through air. The laser beam this emits is in the ultraviolet spectrum and isn't visible to the unaided eye. You could see the light because of the materials he ran it through. The back piece of paper was basically colored all over with highlighter. Also, the water contained highlighter ink. The highlighter ink fluoresces in the presence of UV light. This is a "real" laser, as it has no diode.
I think that he was saying that a "real" laser, in his eyes, comes from a gas putting off radiation due to a pulsing electric charge. I, myself, wouldn't consider diode lasers any less of lasers, even if they are wimpy (generally - yes, I know about DragonLasers, so please stop harassing people about them!).
i have been waiting for your next site update quite eagerly, and i'll certainly be interested in this laser. You said that it was easy to make, but how easy? Household material?
low current, for example 10 mA. If you use a NST as power supply, at least 1 Mohm resistor in series is required to limit the current. The current is not very important, but if it is too high, will damage the dielectric and other parts.
Mine doesn't work. I followed your setup almost exactly, except that I'm using a 2n3773 flyback driver instead of a NST. The spark gap fires about 300 times per second at 1mm, and the rails won't arc unless they are less than 0.5mm apart. It just doesn't work. Can anyone explain this?
The rails might be annodized but that wouldn't explain the spark gap.
toadsEATbugs 1 year ago
@toadsEATbugs I tried with annodized aluminium, it didn't worked until i remove the oxyde layer. I'm using HV from ignition coil, rectified using a vaccum tube. My laser didn't work with no rectified current. You can see the setup on my channel.
Zone51 10 months ago
Amusing choice of music.
AntiProtonBoy 1 year ago
The odd shaped glass was a bit odd.
Mugrs 1 year ago
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that was just retarded...it doesnt make any sense
TheBTR100 1 year ago
If you must have a cavity of sorts, a mirror can be placed at the spark gap end to increase the power. A sub-atmospheric N2 laser usually has a wndow and a total reflector and that's it. This is quite nice nonetheless.
antienjigglement 1 year ago
@antienjigglement
I was able to put a mirror on that end
and align the reflection spot with the
original spot but I did not have a good
way of evaluating the difference. The
difference in brightness did not not
seem to be very significant.
nylesteiner 1 year ago
@nylesteiner I understand that situation; it probably has to be measured with an instrument. I sure don't know how to do it otherwise as the laser pulse is so short and the power may already be so high as to saturate the target's ability to make a brighter spot. I hope you will post more experiments with this kind of laser.
antienjigglement 1 year ago
Another amazing creation! (excuse me for writing other stuff about asking help,i did not notice the link in the description...).
OLTCITKA 2 years ago 2
cool
ifyadontplaypburlost 2 years ago
its not like a laser pointer its what there gonna use in wars
Naurtopokemonmaster1 3 years ago
Hm it's interesting but I really don't understand how this works, I mean the principle.I am engineer and I don't see the resonator here , or I just missed to see it on this video ,please explain ????
voanirges 3 years ago
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frothychimp 2 years ago
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voanirges: The nitrogen under transverse excitation is super radiant so one pass down the channel is all that is needed. You can put a high reflector at one end to improve the output power.
frothychimp 2 years ago
so I need optical reflecting system, and natural air, with natural almost 80% nitrogen, and to make it excited via electric flashing, so it will resonate????Any boudaries, about electric input frequency, or distance between reflecyors, or angle, ok I will try this.Thanks
voanirges 2 years ago
you don't need any kind of reflecting system. it is superradiant, one pass is all that is needed for it to lase. The HR mirror simply reflects the energy heading out the back of the laser. It requires alignment and will improve output.
frothychimp 2 years ago
There is no real practical way to make a traditional resonator for this laser due primarily to the extinction speed. Because of the superradiance a huge amount of the N2 is lofted into the upper lasing level when the spark gap discharges so it does no good to build a resonator particularly because the relaxation is on the order of milliseconds.
frothychimp 2 years ago
so only current pass in N2 will lase, hm I am surprised with that fact!What direction will be the laser beam , according to spark , sorry if I bother but I really want to create one laser like this one, but I didn't figure out from this video it's construstion, and I have never heard about such behaving of N2, I heard for He/Ne,CO2 , Ge laser but this is new to me
voanirges 2 years ago
any electric arc makes UV light....the long strip 'lines it up'
VideyoJunkei 3 years ago
Yet that is right, in fact, I plan to soon put up a page showing how to make a simple uv light with a corona arc but, it is very evident that the lining up in the case of the tea laser also causes laser action.
Very specific operating requirements show that there is more going on than just a simple case of constricted uv light. Many settings produce a uv light strip without a beam.
Put tea laser on google to find out more.
nylesteiner 3 years ago
why the laser is pulsed and not continuous?, maybe the heat i guess.
AZURA888 3 years ago
Because you have to charge and discharge to capacitor-plates. Takes time. Plus: The N2 molecules have to relax after they emitted laser-light...
AnselmoFanZero 3 years ago
thats not umm "terror" thats classical
BigPark33 3 years ago
the music at the end sounds like a terror movie ::P
Rruuni 4 years ago 2
what's a "terror movie"?
hboy007 3 years ago
i think he means like a scary movie
JOEBO19x 3 years ago
how do you make it
rsmeansrunescape 4 years ago
I like this video. You did a good job with the titles and music. The music really combines well with the visual part. It is very interesting. Have you tried lasing any dyes yet?
magx1 4 years ago
That's pretty cool! anyone know about the power output and wavelength?
mrkiky 4 years ago
wavelength 337.1nm
power? hahahaa. Neglegible much less than 1mW
hboy007 4 years ago
oh well, at least it flouresces shit up :)
mrkiky 4 years ago
Hey, buddy, the whole nm thing means nanometers. The wavelength has nothing to do with the power, but, instead, the light spectrum. Learn your units.
ChrisKarr 3 years ago
does it burn stuff?
Iceymice 4 years ago
shutup you prick
ShottyChampion 4 years ago
Yes, I've tried to drive a multiplier with a disposable camera unit. It works, but the result doesn't seems like for example when you drive from the wall. Maybe, because of the frequence.
sciexp 4 years ago
Ohh, great, again!!!!!!!
Have you proved to power the laser with a piezoelectric igniter. Probably the current is very very low, much lower than 10 mA. I have thought of that now. Anyone has proved that?
Do you think that this is possible?
sciexp 4 years ago
I think it isn't possible because the current should be continue(or pulsed but with relatively high frequency), and if I understood, the piezoelectric igniter provides only one pulse per second or similar.
It is simplest to build a voltage multiplier from a disposable camera unit.
rachm06 4 years ago
Very interesting. Does it produce coherent light? I don't see any mirrors, since those are a requirement to produce such light.
cumesoftware 4 years ago
Any laser radiation is coherent. In this case this is called "superradiant laser": it has a so high gain that don't need any optical resonator. However if you put a simple mirror at one end, will increase the output power by more than 100%.
rachm06 4 years ago
I though it would require mirrors in order the light emissions to be coherent with each other. Your UV radiation must be very concentrated when a discharge occurs in the tube, so it won't require mirrors to concentrate light and cause photon emissions to be syncronized. Is that it?
cumesoftware 4 years ago
Well, it wouldn't be a laser if it would produce coherent light. But then again, I didn't wanted to ask it it was a true laser or just one nonochromatic light generator focused by optics. It would seem too ofensive to ask that.
cumesoftware 4 years ago
The light is produced by the ionization of nitrogen. The spark you see is the result of the discharge through air. The laser beam this emits is in the ultraviolet spectrum and isn't visible to the unaided eye. You could see the light because of the materials he ran it through. The back piece of paper was basically colored all over with highlighter. Also, the water contained highlighter ink. The highlighter ink fluoresces in the presence of UV light. This is a "real" laser, as it has no diode.
ChrisKarr 3 years ago
Indeed. But when you say: "This is a "real" laser, as it has no diode.", why would you consider LED LASERs other than real?
cumesoftware 3 years ago
I think that he was saying that a "real" laser, in his eyes, comes from a gas putting off radiation due to a pulsing electric charge. I, myself, wouldn't consider diode lasers any less of lasers, even if they are wimpy (generally - yes, I know about DragonLasers, so please stop harassing people about them!).
ChrisKarr 3 years ago
i have been waiting for your next site update quite eagerly, and i'll certainly be interested in this laser. You said that it was easy to make, but how easy? Household material?
pingoart 4 years ago
the most "difficult" material to obtain is the power supply. It should supply at least 3 kv.
rachm06 4 years ago
but with how much current?
I can't wait for the tutorial...
pingoart 4 years ago
low current, for example 10 mA. If you use a NST as power supply, at least 1 Mohm resistor in series is required to limit the current. The current is not very important, but if it is too high, will damage the dielectric and other parts.
rachm06 4 years ago