The lack of sound would scare me on our busy roads! Standing out to drivers is a challenge for bikers to been heard and seen today. Both my 4 strokes have changed exhausts which make them louder yet legal. This helps me when filtering for example. I can see safety problems riding an almost silent bike around built up areas - could be lethal!
So how is it a 2011 model if 2011 is nearly over and I still can't buy one?
I do think this bike looks very cool. I ride a big cruiser now. I would still keep my cruiser for road trips, but I think I could really enjoy my local rides to work & such on something like this.
@haarvey919 my thinking exactly. I ride a beemer tour cycle on road trips up and down the west coast, it's going to be a long time until an electric motor-driven cycle will match the range and speed, and recharge in an acceptable amount of time. But for running errands around town or even trips to the local twisties, this could be just the ticket.
The charge rate depends on the C rating of the batteries! A good example is the Tesla model s can charge the 300 mile battery in 45 minutes, i don't know the c rating for that battery but is self intuitive in that conclusion! Right now batteries aren't too bad but in 10 years will drastically improve, there is a new chemistry coming liquid carbon that will triple the run time at the least and five times at best and ten years after that we will have 1000 mile electric cars so it's not a long wait
Way too expensive and silent!!! Part of the fun of biking is the sound. Electric cars have already injured people because they can't here them coming - loud pipes save lives.
Surely modern science can invent an artificial and renewable replacement for petrol so that all the millions of bikes and cars won't just become scrap in future and we can still enjoy the sound of a big v-twin.
That's such a bullshit answer that gas addicts love to use for something that should have been a relic of ancient past a LONG time ago. In the end, there is just nothing good about the internal combustion engine. It's just a really loud air heater.
It is expensive but much of the expense is the Batteries. Cost nearly $4000.00 just for the batteries. Until that comes down, you'll see high prices on Electric Motorcycles.
@gijigadget Total cost of ownership is lower for electric. No servicing, no filters or oil only one moving part in the motor. A battery may be expensive but it's still cheaper than a petrol engine.
Way too expensive!!! You would think, they would make it so it charges itself while riding or has solar panels or something! These electric bikes are quiet so u can here all the parts rattling too.
Waaaaaaaayyyyyy over priced at $13,000+ for the 10.0... Even $10,000 for the 6.0 is way too much. At those prices I'll stick with a gas bike. And has anyone done the math yet? What does it cost to "fill up" an electric bike? And while no pollution is being produced by you at home or while riding, how much pollution does a power plant make producing that electricity? Just curious...
i would have to test ride this thing before i bought it. nice looking bike tho. how would it hold up on mountain roads? will it hold 55 + mph will going all uphill for like and hour? would i have to drift back?
what happens if you go up into the hills of CA or va . thye really should put something like a spare propane thats way you can have propane and electrice motor.
@guardian22553 Having a fuel engine as well as the electric motor would probably be far too bulky for a bike. You'd probably be better off bringing a small generator with you if you thought you might run out in the middle of nowhere but I suspect the mileage when charging with a portable generator then using it to drive an electric motor would probably be pretty crappy.
Shoot I weight 205 and would like to drive this thing from pearl ms to madison ms to work 18.5 one way every day. if I could go to work and back for two days straight without having to plug it up to charge. IM A HAPPY CAMPER. taking i 55n interstate from hwy 25/lakeland drive 60mph to first Madison ms exit most of the way. I assume I should get 75 miles per charge if I am easy on the throttle realistically?
I'd just get the 6.0. The addition from 60 to 100 miles doesn't open a whole lot of doors, the batteries are by far the most expensive part.
That oil cooled electric motor is a great technology. I agree with the guy who said it is now fast enough to be fun, more because of the acceleration potential of a bike that weighs under 400 lbs and makes 50 HP, right off idle, than because of the top speed. Still too expensive though, for an around town bike. No touring, no track days.
@chronofusion I think I was confusing it with the MotoCzysz electric racebike, which is oil cooled. They could mean anti-freeze cooled I guess. Otherwise, would have to drain water for winter.
depends what range but the 6.0 model charges on a 220v outlet in 2.4 hours on 110 in 8 hours. 8.0 in 3.2 on 220v and 10 on 110v. and the 10.0 model in 4 hours on a 220v outlet and 12 on a 110v. thats what it says on the brammo website. battery life isnt known for sure but theyll probally outlast your want for the bike or something new/better will replace it before they die.
Ok.this is all the power I want from an electric bike.Two miles to work,two miles back.Plug it in when I get home,get a shower,get back on the bike,go to the store pick up sum beer and dinner..back home. It's perfect for what my needs are.For local commuting it's something I disire to have. it dosnt bother me that there is no big sound.more quit for the loud music I will be playing from the sound system I hook up to it. ;) Now I just have to come up with the money to get one.
its amazing how people complain about a 100 mile range i think its incredible. i could use this to go to school and back (35 miles each way). and charge it everyday when i get home.. and my dads commute is 32 miles each way to the airport to me this is a very practical way to commute... im defintally going to consider buying one. and it plugs into a standard socket and charges in 3-4 hours? you can plug it where you drive and ride it home fully charged.. or atleast enough to get a further range.
if they made a trike a three wheel copper Harley with one wheel in the front and two in the back they could use the space between the rear wheels for more battery storage if this bike gets 100 miles a trike could get 700miles between charges now that would be grate it can be done god dam it!!!
Using a standard 110V outlet, Brammo says it will take roughly 60 minutes per KwH - so about six hours for the Empulse 6.0, eight hours for the 8.0 and 10 hours for the 10.0.
@walkman5410 It must take at least a year to charge, cause I haven't seen any of them on the road yet. LOL Seriously, they are not yet out. Rumor has it they are adding a 6-speed electronic gear box. I prefer no clutch or gear shift myself, but I guess they have identified a market for people who want something that looks and feels more traditional. The weight is going to be up there too at 475 lbs. Personally, I prefer lighter and no shifting, like in the Zero.
Put me down for the 6.0. I know the others get longer range, but the 60 mile range of the 6.0 will the perfect job for me. Get me from my little town to work and back or up into Seattle and home on a single charge. All done at a truly reasonable price. $10,000 to $14,000 is a good price in spite of what the naysayers will tell you. The only fast electric with any range before this was going at over $40,000. Add in the Federal and State incentives, and you could drop the price by thousands.
@Liv2xplore Minor correction, I saw the Roehr ESuperbike. Bottom end of price at around $14,000+ and going up from there. I can't say I'm in love with the looks of it, though. Certainly not compared to the Empulse. I don't think it will be as available either, I could be wrong about that. Lower price tag, bare bones styling, better sales and service infrastructure in place has Brammo winning for me.
@stuntbums its kind of like riding a bike with the cluth held in, really strange going round corners! Also You dont realise how much noise adds to the sensation of speed until you ride a bike that makes no sound
the two things that would bother me about this is charging time and sound.
how long does it take to charge the battery fully? because if I have to charge it for 12 hours just to ride it for like... a couple hours... then its not really worth it IN THE LONG RUN.
secondly, there won't be any sound when the bike is peeling around corners or gunning it in-between traffic lights... so what's the point of riding fast and looking cool when all you hear is humming between your legs?
The lack of sound would scare me on our busy roads! Standing out to drivers is a challenge for bikers to been heard and seen today. Both my 4 strokes have changed exhausts which make them louder yet legal. This helps me when filtering for example. I can see safety problems riding an almost silent bike around built up areas - could be lethal!
devonbiker 1 month ago
with 240v charger how long would it take to charge? I'm guessing 3 hours or so
fairyheli2 1 month ago
They get the price for the 100mph/100mi model down around $9-10K, and I just found my new commuter bike!
root9king 2 months ago in playlist Brammo Electric Motorcycles
So where is this thing already?!?
cglarsen26 4 months ago
Amen
1991araaron 4 months ago
So how is it a 2011 model if 2011 is nearly over and I still can't buy one?
I do think this bike looks very cool. I ride a big cruiser now. I would still keep my cruiser for road trips, but I think I could really enjoy my local rides to work & such on something like this.
haarvey919 5 months ago
@haarvey919 my thinking exactly. I ride a beemer tour cycle on road trips up and down the west coast, it's going to be a long time until an electric motor-driven cycle will match the range and speed, and recharge in an acceptable amount of time. But for running errands around town or even trips to the local twisties, this could be just the ticket.
dwc1964 3 months ago
woooaaaaaoooow!!!! esta moto es una nota yo quiero una :)
joseserrada100 6 months ago
minus road tax = very expensive batters. Not worth the money guys!!
jayere69 6 months ago
@jayere69 Total cost of ownership is much lower for electric
gasdive 3 months ago
I met these guys just at a burger king before I knew who they were, they were really nice guy's.
sbeer6er 7 months ago
I want this bike so bad...
wiilover55 7 months ago
The charge rate depends on the C rating of the batteries! A good example is the Tesla model s can charge the 300 mile battery in 45 minutes, i don't know the c rating for that battery but is self intuitive in that conclusion! Right now batteries aren't too bad but in 10 years will drastically improve, there is a new chemistry coming liquid carbon that will triple the run time at the least and five times at best and ten years after that we will have 1000 mile electric cars so it's not a long wait
theantiredneck 8 months ago in playlist Vehicle Creators
tranmission?
nsr150sp1 8 months ago
Way too expensive and silent!!! Part of the fun of biking is the sound. Electric cars have already injured people because they can't here them coming - loud pipes save lives.
Surely modern science can invent an artificial and renewable replacement for petrol so that all the millions of bikes and cars won't just become scrap in future and we can still enjoy the sound of a big v-twin.
hobbsey8 9 months ago
@hobbsey8 use a tape recorder. Record a big vtwin then play it loud as u ride an electric :-)
Nevawake 8 months ago
@hobbsey8
That's such a bullshit answer that gas addicts love to use for something that should have been a relic of ancient past a LONG time ago. In the end, there is just nothing good about the internal combustion engine. It's just a really loud air heater.
takadi 6 months ago
@hobbsey8
And how many people have 'loud' petrol cars injured? How about a diesel locomotive? They're quite loud.
Jet airplanes are also quite loud too, there's been a few people injured by those recently...
gooble69 5 months ago
It is expensive but much of the expense is the Batteries. Cost nearly $4000.00 just for the batteries. Until that comes down, you'll see high prices on Electric Motorcycles.
gijigadget 9 months ago
@gijigadget Total cost of ownership is lower for electric. No servicing, no filters or oil only one moving part in the motor. A battery may be expensive but it's still cheaper than a petrol engine.
gasdive 3 months ago
Way too expensive!!! You would think, they would make it so it charges itself while riding or has solar panels or something! These electric bikes are quiet so u can here all the parts rattling too.
ThaRemnant1 9 months ago
Waaaaaaaayyyyyy over priced at $13,000+ for the 10.0... Even $10,000 for the 6.0 is way too much. At those prices I'll stick with a gas bike. And has anyone done the math yet? What does it cost to "fill up" an electric bike? And while no pollution is being produced by you at home or while riding, how much pollution does a power plant make producing that electricity? Just curious...
FatSlappyHappyPappy 10 months ago
Ok, that's new to me.
When I was with friends in NY and Denver they only had 110v
and this: Mains electricity by country,
says otherwise
BMWHP2 11 months ago
Excellent! when can I try it in France?
BilTheKid64 11 months ago
Why can't you have interchangeable batteries? Have one charging while the other is in use? I miss something?
xadart 11 months ago
@xadart You can, but the battery pack is one of the most expensive components.
tripsland 11 months ago
Wouldn't it be even better if it was belt drive?
wetweasel56 11 months ago
Excelent this is the future !!!
Videoxon 11 months ago
Is it legal for a 16 year old to drive this in Az, USA?
FameswProductions 11 months ago
230v IS 220v, thats the same.
That goes everywhere (the output is BETWEEN 220V and 230V,
Only everyone here names it twotwenty.
BMWHP2 1 year ago
Perfect commuter bike.
Pity the US is still using 110v, while about the rest of the world has 220v.
BMWHP2 1 year ago
@BMWHP2 230V in Germany.
NotnaRed 1 year ago
@BMWHP2 Most households in the US still have 230v outlets.
tripsland 11 months ago
@tripsland if not its not hard to install one, theres two bars in most breaker boxes 110 each
xrdrtbike56 10 months ago
6/10 hours to "fill 'er up!". Balls.
Panzerlang 1 year ago
Did you guys make "log" for the Ren and stimpy show...
Log log it's better than bad it's good....oh.. my bad that was blammo
eldictator1 1 year ago
i would have to test ride this thing before i bought it. nice looking bike tho. how would it hold up on mountain roads? will it hold 55 + mph will going all uphill for like and hour? would i have to drift back?
cyblur 1 year ago
what happens if you go up into the hills of CA or va . thye really should put something like a spare propane thats way you can have propane and electrice motor.
guardian22553 1 year ago
@guardian22553 Having a fuel engine as well as the electric motor would probably be far too bulky for a bike. You'd probably be better off bringing a small generator with you if you thought you might run out in the middle of nowhere but I suspect the mileage when charging with a portable generator then using it to drive an electric motor would probably be pretty crappy.
ghelyar 1 year ago
Yes finally a Bike that is usefull for ninjas, deadly silent. Not just named ninja!!!
Edguinard 1 year ago
its garbage whats the point of having a motorcycle without woup woup sound
bkzzxlilxthug 1 year ago
100mph + 100mi = pretty fast hour
gtxo 1 year ago 8
Shoot I weight 205 and would like to drive this thing from pearl ms to madison ms to work 18.5 one way every day. if I could go to work and back for two days straight without having to plug it up to charge. IM A HAPPY CAMPER. taking i 55n interstate from hwy 25/lakeland drive 60mph to first Madison ms exit most of the way. I assume I should get 75 miles per charge if I am easy on the throttle realistically?
chronofusion 1 year ago
I'd just get the 6.0. The addition from 60 to 100 miles doesn't open a whole lot of doors, the batteries are by far the most expensive part.
That oil cooled electric motor is a great technology. I agree with the guy who said it is now fast enough to be fun, more because of the acceleration potential of a bike that weighs under 400 lbs and makes 50 HP, right off idle, than because of the top speed. Still too expensive though, for an around town bike. No touring, no track days.
medwards82 1 year ago
@medwards82 If im not mistaken..its a WATER cooled radiator thus a water cooled motor. Where do you get OIL cooled from?
chronofusion 1 year ago
@chronofusion I think I was confusing it with the MotoCzysz electric racebike, which is oil cooled. They could mean anti-freeze cooled I guess. Otherwise, would have to drain water for winter.
medwards82 1 year ago
@medwards82 *shruggs shoulders* that's a first for me..ya learn something new everyday. I've never heard of anything Oil-cooled. hehe.
chronofusion 1 year ago
depends what range but the 6.0 model charges on a 220v outlet in 2.4 hours on 110 in 8 hours. 8.0 in 3.2 on 220v and 10 on 110v. and the 10.0 model in 4 hours on a 220v outlet and 12 on a 110v. thats what it says on the brammo website. battery life isnt known for sure but theyll probally outlast your want for the bike or something new/better will replace it before they die.
KASTAS155 1 year ago
how long does it take to charge it with 220v outlet?
vatrly 1 year ago
Ok.this is all the power I want from an electric bike.Two miles to work,two miles back.Plug it in when I get home,get a shower,get back on the bike,go to the store pick up sum beer and dinner..back home. It's perfect for what my needs are.For local commuting it's something I disire to have. it dosnt bother me that there is no big sound.more quit for the loud music I will be playing from the sound system I hook up to it. ;) Now I just have to come up with the money to get one.
yesIdoLikeDogs 1 year ago
lets see him making that turn in rain
AfghanLibre 1 year ago
its amazing how people complain about a 100 mile range i think its incredible. i could use this to go to school and back (35 miles each way). and charge it everyday when i get home.. and my dads commute is 32 miles each way to the airport to me this is a very practical way to commute... im defintally going to consider buying one. and it plugs into a standard socket and charges in 3-4 hours? you can plug it where you drive and ride it home fully charged.. or atleast enough to get a further range.
KASTAS155 1 year ago
if they made a trike a three wheel copper Harley with one wheel in the front and two in the back they could use the space between the rear wheels for more battery storage if this bike gets 100 miles a trike could get 700miles between charges now that would be grate it can be done god dam it!!!
MIKEalTV 1 year ago
how many years does the battery last?
nikonxxx 1 year ago
Max Revs, how many gears?
StrEagle 1 year ago
@StrEagle it has no gears. Electric motors put out max torque across the entire RPM range.
Winterstick549 1 year ago
this us the way to go green :)
hemantrocks 1 year ago
wow! the product life cycle sucks, theirs already a bike in dev. that can do 150 mph and get 150 miles per charge.
sh3ikXI 1 year ago
@sh3ikXI And which one is that? My money says it costs way more than the brammo.
revjimjones 1 year ago
it will be better if it can be charged faster
LUSIANO1994 1 year ago
"Nothing beats the feeling of riding at 100+ miles per hour while listening to the constant revving sound of a dying blender" Meeeh...!!!
FFS!
NicoretteMan 1 year ago 10
interesting...but i'm not gonna be first to try
Vrublevskogo 1 year ago
You have the best channel name on yt FTW
slipknotmetalhead13 1 year ago
you can not hear it, and it is the same range as a 45 mph and 3 gallon tank
9jmorrison 1 year ago
very nice... now if you can have some extra packs of battery to be able to use it in full day rides (like 300 miles), that would be awesome...
picaflorlimeno 1 year ago
So how long does it take to charge?
walkman5410 1 year ago
@walkman5410
Using a standard 110V outlet, Brammo says it will take roughly 60 minutes per KwH - so about six hours for the Empulse 6.0, eight hours for the 8.0 and 10 hours for the 10.0.
motorcycle 1 year ago 3
@motorcycle whatever, just say "over night"
maoristereo 1 year ago
@motorcycle in Europe the standard i think is 220V
daswada9 1 year ago
@daswada9 yes it is
pcharola 1 year ago
@motorcycle the standard for Europe is 220V so half the time
daswada9 3 months ago
@motorcycle it only holds 6kwh?
fairyheli2 1 month ago
@walkman5410 It must take at least a year to charge, cause I haven't seen any of them on the road yet. LOL Seriously, they are not yet out. Rumor has it they are adding a 6-speed electronic gear box. I prefer no clutch or gear shift myself, but I guess they have identified a market for people who want something that looks and feels more traditional. The weight is going to be up there too at 475 lbs. Personally, I prefer lighter and no shifting, like in the Zero.
dkw12002 3 weeks ago
not a fan
PnlBtr 1 year ago
Put me down for the 6.0. I know the others get longer range, but the 60 mile range of the 6.0 will the perfect job for me. Get me from my little town to work and back or up into Seattle and home on a single charge. All done at a truly reasonable price. $10,000 to $14,000 is a good price in spite of what the naysayers will tell you. The only fast electric with any range before this was going at over $40,000. Add in the Federal and State incentives, and you could drop the price by thousands.
Liv2xplore 1 year ago
@Liv2xplore Minor correction, I saw the Roehr ESuperbike. Bottom end of price at around $14,000+ and going up from there. I can't say I'm in love with the looks of it, though. Certainly not compared to the Empulse. I don't think it will be as available either, I could be wrong about that. Lower price tag, bare bones styling, better sales and service infrastructure in place has Brammo winning for me.
Liv2xplore 1 year ago
@Liv2xplore Make that $16,965 according to their website. Goes up to $34,495. Brammo wins.
Liv2xplore 1 year ago
expensive and a bit ugly - my only 2 quarrels!
mcgrimes 1 year ago
Although I'm a fan of loud beasts, I'll get one of these, for sure. Don't forget about the torque these things have, and the way they deliver it.
hellicks 1 year ago
100+ mile range is less than halfway there for me on many of my trips. This is a city bike.
Jules2950 1 year ago
This is awesome.
ElijasaurusRex 1 year ago
And what is with you guys and your fetish for loud noises?
ElijasaurusRex 1 year ago
@ElijasaurusRex
Louder bikes are more likely to get the attention of cagers, and so, less likely for them to pull out in front of u, cut u off, etc.
adoniscomplex 1 year ago
@adoniscomplex Alright, that makes sense to me. It seems like a few of these guys just like noise for noise's sake, though.
ElijasaurusRex 1 year ago
@ElijasaurusRex i dont get it either... i mean i love the orgasmic screams and moans of a woman.. but that's about the only "noise" that i like..
NeoQuello 1 year ago
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ElijasaurusRex 1 year ago
congrats brammo. you finnally built a good motorcycle
choopdewoot 1 year ago
I am ready for electric motorcycle. Noise as an indicator of speed is self-delusory -- full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
I'll take max torque at 0mph and silent running anyday.
toddpnewton 1 year ago
they should use lituim polomer batteries. running at like 150vots prob would fly and rip
staticxmako 1 year ago
I really want to try one of these
stuntbums 1 year ago
@stuntbums its kind of like riding a bike with the cluth held in, really strange going round corners! Also You dont realise how much noise adds to the sensation of speed until you ride a bike that makes no sound
steady2wheels 1 year ago
The fact that it is silent is kinda dangerous, it's a cool idea though. i mean pretty awesome actually.
VollgasHero 1 year ago
the two things that would bother me about this is charging time and sound.
how long does it take to charge the battery fully? because if I have to charge it for 12 hours just to ride it for like... a couple hours... then its not really worth it IN THE LONG RUN.
secondly, there won't be any sound when the bike is peeling around corners or gunning it in-between traffic lights... so what's the point of riding fast and looking cool when all you hear is humming between your legs?
CrockettRockett88 1 year ago