Awesome, Im glad there are brave men and women who know how to defend themselves and protect our freedom!!! Who cares about the cowards who are happy to accuse them of being terrorists when these fags wont move out of their mothers basement!!! Thankyou for your service
i donno why ppl hav to say shit about marines they fight for us every day of their lifes by risking their own so unless ur willing to pick up a rifle and go fight for your country dont say anything thanks
They always say that; We're talking about Marines, the show is featuring Marines, Marine Corps Martial Arts Program, etc, etc... You think that they can keep with the script and say Marines!
ok i have to addmit the leg lock is quite stupid.... who the hell grabs someone froom behind but not his arms? and why not go for the knife instantly ? maybe he wants him alive or has lost his knife?but then why not throw himself backward quite fast and land on the opponents stomach? why not simply go for the eyes? a three finger shoke would do the job .. he would let go and then you can quite simply ko him with an elbow if you shoke long enough he will pass out..
I respect soldiers and pro fighters. However, the only difference between ring fighting and street fighting is WHERE you hit. Not HOW you hit. The ring martial arts are real martial arts made for war/self defence but the lethal moves are not used thats all.
They just kept the basic kicks and punches in. Being trained to kill is deadly but it doesnt guarantee victory. A soldier can easily get kicked in the head by a pro fighter and knocked out. And vice versa
The point of the video isn't about who would win waht and if an MMA fighter would last in the battlefield or vice versa, the point is to give you history and a small taste of what it's like to go through the training. You want the real thing? Enlist in the Marines, or go to Brazil, China, Japan, Columbia, or any of the other places these guys have been and actually train in these arts. Until you have done that, you have no reason to argue.
at 4:04 this fuckin idiot calls Marines a fuckin soldier!! fuckin bitch!!! a Marine isnt a fuckin soldier for u dumb fucks dat dint know. only the army has fuckin soldiers
@2369766 I'm tired of you guys who think the Army soldiers are no good. I come from a long line of proud U.S. Army soldiers who deserved just as much respect as any Marine out there.
@jaggafeen u fuckin dick go pick a fuckin gun and go fight it will be fun to watch u slip on ur arse stub ur toe and cry 2 ur mummy DONT TAKE THE PISS OUT OF THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE U UR FREEDOM
@2369766 bahahaha, look at this kid, he's obviously not been in the service let alone combat. Good thing too, people like that get their allies killed by being dumbasses
@Knightblood1 Dude I was straight up trollin' lol. I do muay thai, brazilian jiu-jitsu, boxing, sumo, judo and I've done a few MMA matches so I know a bit about fightning. I also happen to have quite a few friends who do MCMAP and it's pretty legit but they're newbs at it so i tend to pwn them with the greatest of ease. lawlz peace out!
@SardonicFox1994 And you, sir, are even more. Marines and other branches of the Military have been keeping your ass safe for many years. If you don't like it, go to Iraq yelling, "I'll take all you on!" and count how many seconds it takes for you to get shot.
fight quest is not " ufc" fighters. the 1 guy is a LOW tiered mma fighter that couldent even make it in WEC let alone UFC. IABIDALA get your shit straight newb.
@CardinalRaker yeah well stuff happens, bottom line is 9 times out of 10 the trained killer is coming out on top. by the way Couture put Toney to sleep! I was worried for a second that toney would catch him with a big one but it worked out just fine
@Kakarotgoku406 i think they're almost the same thing, i mean both arts are supposed to kill and win wars, they are both mean to be at realistic combat, so i think MCMAP and Krav Maga is the same
rolling kneebar is such a ridiculous technique to teach new grapplers for street combat. how about breaking the grip and turning into them? a kimura would be better too.
@Nerstow if you broke a soldiers arm he would probably continue to fight you, if he has a knife he might still be deadly, a rolling knee bar would end the fight, no one can fight on after you snap their leg...
@Kooletz71 Not really true. One a person is amped up on adrenaline and determined hurt you you'd be surprised what they fight through. Tim Sylvia, Jacare kept fighting after having their arms broken via armbar. There's a clip on one of the Wildest Police videos of this cop shooting a guy point blank like 6-9 times and the dude was still beating the cops ass and he wasn't high on anything just determined to hurt the cop.
@tuopvm yeah but you take away their mobility and their ability to throw strikes with any sort of power, plus if they are still trying to fight with you all you have to do is create space and throw a couple of kicks to their legs and they wont hang in there too long, legs and arms are completely different, also it is kind of strange but getting shot point blank in some situations is not as bad at being shot at range, even if they are holow points they will probably pass right through unless bone
@Kooletz71 They had that problem with the bullets in Mogadishu. The Somali were high on khat and the rounds were designed to penetrate armor so they were making clean holes as they passed through the Somalis. A rolling knee bar in combat equipment by a marine with white belt equivalent skills probably wouldn't have a good result. They should learn how to break the grip and face their opponent.
@tuopvm that is true but these moves are also desighned to work well with a flak jacket and gear on, on top of that the other guy could have a knife, in which case he would be expecting you to try and turn, you also have to remember its not like they are going to weekly karate lessons or anything, they basically train every day for a long time, I am sure they get a lot more experience in a short amount of time than a civillian would
@Kooletz71 Having been in the military I can almost guarantee you they don't train mcmap everday, probably not even weekly depending on unit, job and all the other things going on. All bs aside every clip I've seen of guys doing mcmap besides the instructors a white belt with a couple stripes at any reputable civilian school could out grapple most of them and any muay thai/boxer with a yr could out strike them.
randy couture would net get beat by a mcmap instructor, He has was martial arts titles. This stuff may look sexy, but the best fighters are the ones who have excellence in the basics.
To all the fags going "OMFG COUTURE WOULD KILL HIM!!!11", I'm pretty sure the marine who trains everyday to kill someone would kill the man who's old and trains for sport! Kind of a huge difference there aint it? He was simply stating that he would kill randy in the BATTLEFIELD, NOT IN THE RING! God you are idiots. He even flatly stated "If Im in the ring, GOOD CHANCE I'D GET MY BUTT KICKED". Listen before you say something stupid.
no one with a blackbelt in mcmap but no other fighting experience would ever come close to beating randy couture in any sort of fight that didnt involve weapons, lol
@TehPenar that's what I was referring to...I doubt randy has every had to KILL someone or ever shot a rifle in a country full of people that want you dead.
so you're trying to point out that randy couture is worse than marines at... being a marine? this video is about the effectiveness of mcmap, you retard fuck
@TehPenar haha tough guy on the internet i see? lol did my words hurt you that much :-(. I feel sorry for you. Did randy ever have to kill someone by gouging their fucking eyes out? has he ever been in a situation with multiple attackers with weapons? has he ever had to use a rifle in combat? LMAO stupid fucking morons like you make me laugh as you try to act like you know what the fuck you're talking about. get your head out of your ass and grow a fucking pair. haha you're fucking stupid
randy was in the military and undoubtedly has fired a rifle before
good luck finding a marine who's ever "fought off multiple attackers with weapons using eye gouges," or whatever: they dont exist
you kiddy 14 year old marine corps fanboys using phrases like "act like you know what you're talking about" is hilarious, seeing as you dont know anything about fighting or the military
@TehPenar MCMAP is part of being a marine...honestly now i thought even stupid fucking morons like yourself knew that much! ahahaha. LOL what exactly were you trying to accomplish out of your retarded debate on all over this video with other users? that the marine corps sucks? sure seems like you're arguing that point SOO badly bahahaa. morons on the internet make me laugh
@Huhmasta While i respect the marines as deadly warriors, i do have to state my opinion too. Just cos a marine is trained to kill, doesnt mean he can guarantee to kill. Remember the moves the marines are learning, are almost identical to the moves mma guys learn. Muay thai and bjj yes? . Coming up against a pro like couture, couture can easily knock out a marine with a punch and then finish him off with some head kicks. Thats it really. No need for killer moves.
@womblewandering I see what you're saying. At least what you have to say actual forms a coherent thought unlike that tehpenar retard, it's just insults and boasts all around. He would probably wreck a lot marines in one on one combat, no shit.The argument here is that can Couture DO what MARINES do in the battlefield? MCMAP encompasses cqc with rifles,multiple attackers,dirty fighting, and non lethal control. Can couture do that without prior mcmap training? I think not
no shit, no matter how much you train in martial arts, a bullet will kill you. but they are realistic, how many normal people you might fight carry assault weapons? besides have you ever heard of not being a dick? guns are pretty much the ultimate no balls way of just killing people. some train their whole lives, any retard can stand there and pull a trigger
"This debate boils down to a ninja vs samurai arguement. 54 seconds ago"
no it doesn't, at all
we're talking about hand-to-hand skills being applied in real world situations, and no situation you EVER encounter in life is going to come down to "hunting each other down with rifles," or whatever scenario you're imagining here.
i'm not contesting that a special forces guy is going to be better at... performing special operations
one of your little skits was "good mma fighter gets into
crocop was part of a special police unit; he was never in the military. the policework he did sounds just as dangerous as anything you'd do in the military though :P
Ok Tell em a UFC fighter who trains in the mud and cold and heat and forest and night with multiple weapons and multiple enemies and the actual fear of dieing. These guys aren't the best they are just the most worldly and extreme trained.
If you actually listen to what he said: "When they come into my world..." A UFC fighter may train in all these instances but most have never looked death in the eye and have also never had to deal with odd terrain and lethal objects around them to fall onto.
i wouldn't say they're "fat and slow," but the guy is a naive dipshit for thinking he could beat a professional hand-to-hand fighter in a hand-to-hand fight
3:35 LOL kuz you really need to boot him in the face and knife him to the throat after you break his leg..... why not bear mace to the eyes and shoot him in the balls aswell?
military is trained to kill and win not just win a fight I train in MMA and i have nothing but respect for all military services. its Hilarious When other countries think they can defeat America. USA is number 1!!!!!!
@windixinormous While the world respects the US Marine Corps, the US Marine Corps respects the Korean Marine Corps (ROKMC). Learn about the "Ghost Catching Marines" and their role in the Vietnam War.
@quelorepario korean marines train like special force or seal. because they do not lager number of the population. so they neeed quality over the quantity!
@ZigZagRunner Err cum sipper learn to spell. Whats so funny about us thinking our army is the bestoh yeah the need to puff yourself up by putting us down And then saying how great you are.
This guy thinks that he will kill Randy Couture if he goes in "his" world ? He's the dumbest dickhead in the world. Not a smart thing to say when the camera is on.
despite what armchair badasses claim, military martial arts in general tend to be less effective than "sport" martial arts, because military engagements are practically never fought hand to hand
if a marine is forced to use any of this stuff in a real firefight, he has probably already failed and is on his last legs
@TehPenar I am not a marines fan boy and personally think most US military aren't as great as most military's out there but the martial art certainly is not to blame its the people using it.
@TehPenar I think you are forgetting an important part of martial arts, its techniques and combat tactics are strongly influenced, enhanced and limited by its context.
Tae Kwon Do for example was especially designed for war, and its efficacy was proven and amazed the American marines and army in the Vietnam war. Actually the creation of MCMAP was inspired by the efficient ROKMC's Tae Kwon Do skills in combat in the Vietnam war.
Sports are sports, war is war, this difference should be clear.
oh, right. i keep forgetting that, despite being next to useless is real hand-to-hand fights, tae kwon do is amazing against people in war with rifles and body armor!
you type like a massive pseudo-intellectual and have no idea what you're talking about
im sure you read on wikipedia that the us marines were unhappy about the vietnamese fearing the rok marines because of their "close quarters tae kwon do skill" or whatever variant of that bullshit you weren't smart enough to sniff out, but tae kwon do and mcmap are both horribly ineffective fighting systems
the argument that "tae kwon is a great system for real fighting despite being total garbage in mma" or whatever stupid shit you're trying to say is hilarious. tae kwon do is horribly mediocre at best, and the way it's taught is even worse (at least 99% of tae kwon do practitioners dont do full contact sparring on a regular basis, and when you watch the ones that do, their "tae kwon do" seems to be more similar to a really generic form of kickboxing than what you see in demos)
trying to measure how effective elite forces (like the rok marines or marsoc) are based on their hand-to-hand training is pretty retarded either way: if you havent noticed, we dont fight wars with our hands and feet
your concept of "civilian martial arts" seems to be stupid shit like children's karate
i am a former marine, son. take your mcmap into a brazilian jiu jitsu gym and roll with the purple-belt blacks, then come back and tell me how far your afterthought cqc "training" got you. i'd recommend trying the same thing with muay thai practitioners, except you'd end up with more than a bruised ego if you did that
i mean, it's VERY clear that you don't train in competitive martial arts and have probably never done a real cagefight or anything
mcmap isn't worthless -- it prepares marines to handle 130 pound arabs should they need hand to hand combat for whatever reason (let's face it: an absolutely tiny number of servicemen will ever use anything they've been taught in cqc on a battlefield), but training mcmap will get you nowhere against sport fighters
@TehPenar ... yeah-I agree, mcmap is applicable in many ways however with regards to cagefighting its like comparing apples to oranges since extreme cagefighting is in its own league, anyway take care and have a good one.
70 hours of training total -- getting a brown belt in brazillian jiu jitsu will probably take you well over half a decade. the degree of mastery is not the same
with all due respect, i feel your example is flawed for a number of reasons:
1) the majority of people in almost every MOS (including army and marine corps infantrymen) are going to be nowhere near the level of a green beret (or any other special operations unit, for that matter)
2) a good handful of special operations personal have civilian fighting backgrounds
3) even taking these into account, i'm going to have to disagree. there seems to be a misconception among people who've never
i'm positive that i've already said this, but i'm a former marine corps infantryman. you're out of your fucking mind if you think marines don't go to clubs, drink, and fuck things. don't get me wrong, life as a marine SUCKS, but that's more related to curfews and cleaning shit all the time than it is to "badass mental hardship"
you honestly have an extremely inaccurate view of military life. i keep getting the impression that you're some 17 year old in the dep, but whatever
handful of my personal friends have been in special forces or were pilots who went through a lot of "special forces schools" (like sere school)
you're fucking out of your mind if you think that military training is going to turn you into an unstoppable fist-fighting killing machine; there really isn't anything else to it
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
assuming they do have to use their hands or bayonet... well, chances are that the arab insurgent who's threatening them isn't going to be a master of muay thai or anything).
the whole "mental toughness" thing people talk about is usually silly too. maybe i'd have to exclude green berets here, but the half the "mental toughness" you get in the military consists of learning to cope with taking shit from everyone. as far as the other half, toughing out physical pain and overcoming fear... yeah, pretty sure mma fighters are going to have as much of it as most military men, if not more, at least outside of a gunfight
"MMA fighters never go through the physical brutality that elite soldiers go through"
i mean, while i'd agree that special forces indoc is probably mentally harder than any sort of conditioning period, brutality and effectiveness are not the same thing. if this were the case, north korea's army would be a lot better than america's (north korean soldiers go through a lot more shit than american ones), but this isn't the case, is it?
"infact the ground game (Half of mma training!) is completely useless in the real world because there is always the chance of multiple attackers"
are you high? a good ground game (and the understanding of leverage, anatomy, and momentum that comes along with it) is not 'useless,' even against multiple attacks. just because you can't sit there and work submissions (not like it takes a lot to submit someone else if they aren't trained in submission grappling, but even so) doesn't
honestly, this explains more to me than you could possibly imagine, lol
" but listen, I am not talking out of my ass, i know more than a few-ex military men, rangers marines, seals, etc. "
i mean, i grew up on military bases (my father trained for light-fighter MI stuff that's similar to what most special operations forces do, and most of his close friends were sf or former-sf), i've been in the military, and a
lastly, go look up the "pros vj joes" clip with randy couture fighting against various people. one of them was a marine corps close combat instructor (who by all accounts is going to be much better at fighting hand-to-hand than 99% of the military), and he still got absolutely destroyed. it wasn't even close. sure it wasn't a "fight to the death with eye gouging and ball kicking, etc," but if you can watch the clip and still hold onto your beliefs, then there's nothing else i can say
Awesome, Im glad there are brave men and women who know how to defend themselves and protect our freedom!!! Who cares about the cowards who are happy to accuse them of being terrorists when these fags wont move out of their mothers basement!!! Thankyou for your service
IEatBrainMatter117 1 week ago
3:20 = ass slap
7or6 3 weeks ago
i donno why ppl hav to say shit about marines they fight for us every day of their lifes by risking their own so unless ur willing to pick up a rifle and go fight for your country dont say anything thanks
riffrage1 1 month ago
3:07 surprise butt sex
RlcZee 1 month ago
they need to stop with this retarded TSH! TSH! TSH! everytime they fucking move a muscle TSH! TSH! TSH! its fucking annoying
TraceurMeeka 2 months ago
IF it's top secret, why is it being shown on tv?
sooperspook 2 months ago
They always say that; We're talking about Marines, the show is featuring Marines, Marine Corps Martial Arts Program, etc, etc... You think that they can keep with the script and say Marines!
Manjason08 2 months ago
07:03 no mention about Fairbairn and Sykes??!!
TurboRatownik 4 months ago
Sambo,Krav Maga,Jiu Jitsu,Systema & MCMAP..amazing CQC!
DIVON39 4 months ago
im watching at and im pretty sure i could do that. that guys just a fat waterbuffalo
globalmalfunction 4 months ago
I love marines martial arts.
WankstaGhetto 5 months ago
ok i have to addmit the leg lock is quite stupid.... who the hell grabs someone froom behind but not his arms? and why not go for the knife instantly ? maybe he wants him alive or has lost his knife?but then why not throw himself backward quite fast and land on the opponents stomach? why not simply go for the eyes? a three finger shoke would do the job .. he would let go and then you can quite simply ko him with an elbow if you shoke long enough he will pass out..
sum41foreverown 5 months ago
1:05 "Oh yes I can!"
BusinessKi11ER 6 months ago
idiots americans
rakoonloufa88 6 months ago
lls "he comes out to my world...theres an even better chance i'll kill him" epic
savage259259 7 months ago
1:30 to 1:35 Judo Hairi Goshi Takedown
blazinspeed23 9 months ago
this is basically just lethal mma or just jkd!
Mr95candyman 9 months ago
@Mr95candyman your dumb, navy seals jkd, marines cant handle jkd,...lethal mma, youre a fucking retard...think before you speak!
paladindarknite 8 months ago
I respect soldiers and pro fighters. However, the only difference between ring fighting and street fighting is WHERE you hit. Not HOW you hit. The ring martial arts are real martial arts made for war/self defence but the lethal moves are not used thats all.
They just kept the basic kicks and punches in. Being trained to kill is deadly but it doesnt guarantee victory. A soldier can easily get kicked in the head by a pro fighter and knocked out. And vice versa
Rescpect
womblewandering 1 year ago
@TheRuckanucka Note the word "Most." Congratulations, you look like a jackass.
TheUSMC2017 1 year ago
why the hell did the marines open the doors of the house of pain to this crappy show ??
anteracmacash 1 year ago
The point of the video isn't about who would win waht and if an MMA fighter would last in the battlefield or vice versa, the point is to give you history and a small taste of what it's like to go through the training. You want the real thing? Enlist in the Marines, or go to Brazil, China, Japan, Columbia, or any of the other places these guys have been and actually train in these arts. Until you have done that, you have no reason to argue.
AetherLucalus 1 year ago
yeah uhhh basically any one in ufc who has ever lost would be considered dead to the marines, all the marines who are still alive are undefeated.
suazea 1 year ago
at 4:04 this fuckin idiot calls Marines a fuckin soldier!! fuckin bitch!!! a Marine isnt a fuckin soldier for u dumb fucks dat dint know. only the army has fuckin soldiers
2369766 1 year ago 5
@2369766 hahaha! :D
sniperRobert 1 year ago
@2369766 What do you expect from a guy who's trying to look like Jacob from Twilight?
TheUSMC2017 1 year ago
@2369766 yeah, he should have called him for what he really is, over self confident useless public money spender that can only yell and not end wars.
Bishop45acp 1 year ago
@2369766 Most civilians don't know the difference.
TheUSMC2017 1 year ago
@2369766 I'm tired of you guys who think the Army soldiers are no good. I come from a long line of proud U.S. Army soldiers who deserved just as much respect as any Marine out there.
mcaval6 1 year ago
@2369766 Impressive vocabulary...
KristinsBoy2010 11 months ago 13
what's the definition of a soldier?
JKT6 10 months ago
@2369766 Army is called a solider because they are many..... Marines are Marines! because they are The Few and The Proud!!!
miguelangelflores 5 months ago
@2369766 please cry about it!
dutch0dragon 3 months ago
@2369766 calm down mate you sound like you're a retard with no vocab
Razer2036 3 months ago
@2369766 Does it matter? They are all from the same country :/
ChanceReed 2 months ago
@2369766 marines aint soldiers their a bunch of gay fags
jaggafeen 1 month ago
@jaggafeen u fuckin dick go pick a fuckin gun and go fight it will be fun to watch u slip on ur arse stub ur toe and cry 2 ur mummy DONT TAKE THE PISS OUT OF THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE U UR FREEDOM
Rimelm1 4 weeks ago
@Rimelm1 FREEDOM MY ARSE THESE MOTHERFUCKIN FAGS ARE THE WORST TERRORIST SCUM ON THE PLANET
jaggafeen 3 weeks ago
@2369766 bahahaha, look at this kid, he's obviously not been in the service let alone combat. Good thing too, people like that get their allies killed by being dumbasses
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@2369766 they are all terrorist scum
jaggafeen 3 weeks ago
Man, my dad's a black belt in karate. He could woop you in about 5 seconds with a roundhouse kick.
UnparalleledUsername 1 year ago
@UnparalleledUsername i would give him a try if ur saying that
Knightblood1 1 year ago
@Knightblood1 Dude I was straight up trollin' lol. I do muay thai, brazilian jiu-jitsu, boxing, sumo, judo and I've done a few MMA matches so I know a bit about fightning. I also happen to have quite a few friends who do MCMAP and it's pretty legit but they're newbs at it so i tend to pwn them with the greatest of ease. lawlz peace out!
UnparalleledUsername 1 year ago
marines are uneducated retards
SardonicFox1994 1 year ago
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@SardonicFox1994 lol whatever you say you fucking troll.
Huhmasta 1 year ago
@SardonicFox1994 And you, sir, are even more. Marines and other branches of the Military have been keeping your ass safe for many years. If you don't like it, go to Iraq yelling, "I'll take all you on!" and count how many seconds it takes for you to get shot.
ArcherXgen 1 year ago
YEAH! :) i love youtube fights! :D
marcmarce27 1 year ago
omg is this quantico I went thier last year I was right there on njrotc field trip lol never notice that
alp4a 1 year ago
did anyone else catch that mother fucker call the marine a soldier?
SNoCappidona 1 year ago
fight quest is not " ufc" fighters. the 1 guy is a LOW tiered mma fighter that couldent even make it in WEC let alone UFC. IABIDALA get your shit straight newb.
wanadorm 1 year ago
lol ANYONE could kill randy if they had a fucking gun. if this is hand to hand combat randy wins..
newerest1 1 year ago
ok, in a MMA fight Randy couture would beat these guys... in real life these guys would KILL Randy...
Kooletz71 1 year ago
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CardinalRaker 1 year ago
@CardinalRaker yeah well stuff happens, bottom line is 9 times out of 10 the trained killer is coming out on top. by the way Couture put Toney to sleep! I was worried for a second that toney would catch him with a big one but it worked out just fine
Kooletz71 1 year ago
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@Kooletz71
"in real life these guys would KILL Randy..."
the only way the joker from this video would beat a decent professional mma fighter is if he had a rifle and they started 20 feet apart
TehPenar 1 year ago
i prefer krav maga, but that's just me.
Kakarotgoku406 1 year ago 2
@Kakarotgoku406 i think they're almost the same thing, i mean both arts are supposed to kill and win wars, they are both mean to be at realistic combat, so i think MCMAP and Krav Maga is the same
darkairaxandrew 1 year ago
5:29 surprise butt sex :P roflmao
koreanwizard94 1 year ago
@koreanwizard94 the best kind of buttsex lol
Huhmasta 1 year ago
does it freaze for anybody at 1:27
Lepikhan11 1 year ago
rolling kneebar is such a ridiculous technique to teach new grapplers for street combat. how about breaking the grip and turning into them? a kimura would be better too.
Nerstow 1 year ago
@Nerstow if you broke a soldiers arm he would probably continue to fight you, if he has a knife he might still be deadly, a rolling knee bar would end the fight, no one can fight on after you snap their leg...
Kooletz71 1 year ago
@Kooletz71 Not really true. One a person is amped up on adrenaline and determined hurt you you'd be surprised what they fight through. Tim Sylvia, Jacare kept fighting after having their arms broken via armbar. There's a clip on one of the Wildest Police videos of this cop shooting a guy point blank like 6-9 times and the dude was still beating the cops ass and he wasn't high on anything just determined to hurt the cop.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@tuopvm yeah but you take away their mobility and their ability to throw strikes with any sort of power, plus if they are still trying to fight with you all you have to do is create space and throw a couple of kicks to their legs and they wont hang in there too long, legs and arms are completely different, also it is kind of strange but getting shot point blank in some situations is not as bad at being shot at range, even if they are holow points they will probably pass right through unless bone
Kooletz71 1 year ago
@Kooletz71 They had that problem with the bullets in Mogadishu. The Somali were high on khat and the rounds were designed to penetrate armor so they were making clean holes as they passed through the Somalis. A rolling knee bar in combat equipment by a marine with white belt equivalent skills probably wouldn't have a good result. They should learn how to break the grip and face their opponent.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@tuopvm that is true but these moves are also desighned to work well with a flak jacket and gear on, on top of that the other guy could have a knife, in which case he would be expecting you to try and turn, you also have to remember its not like they are going to weekly karate lessons or anything, they basically train every day for a long time, I am sure they get a lot more experience in a short amount of time than a civillian would
Kooletz71 1 year ago
@Kooletz71 Having been in the military I can almost guarantee you they don't train mcmap everday, probably not even weekly depending on unit, job and all the other things going on. All bs aside every clip I've seen of guys doing mcmap besides the instructors a white belt with a couple stripes at any reputable civilian school could out grapple most of them and any muay thai/boxer with a yr could out strike them.
tuopvm 1 year ago
randy couture would net get beat by a mcmap instructor, He has was martial arts titles. This stuff may look sexy, but the best fighters are the ones who have excellence in the basics.
greenbay357 1 year ago
That marine would totally kill Randy Couture. This is the real deal not some ring sport. Here theres no rules and he would probably just kill Randy
Enforcerization 1 year ago
To all the fags going "OMFG COUTURE WOULD KILL HIM!!!11", I'm pretty sure the marine who trains everyday to kill someone would kill the man who's old and trains for sport! Kind of a huge difference there aint it? He was simply stating that he would kill randy in the BATTLEFIELD, NOT IN THE RING! God you are idiots. He even flatly stated "If Im in the ring, GOOD CHANCE I'D GET MY BUTT KICKED". Listen before you say something stupid.
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ASHeatherton 1 year ago
@Huhmasta
no one with a blackbelt in mcmap but no other fighting experience would ever come close to beating randy couture in any sort of fight that didnt involve weapons, lol
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar that's what I was referring to...I doubt randy has every had to KILL someone or ever shot a rifle in a country full of people that want you dead.
Huhmasta 1 year ago
@Huhmasta
so you're trying to point out that randy couture is worse than marines at... being a marine? this video is about the effectiveness of mcmap, you retard fuck
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar haha tough guy on the internet i see? lol did my words hurt you that much :-(. I feel sorry for you. Did randy ever have to kill someone by gouging their fucking eyes out? has he ever been in a situation with multiple attackers with weapons? has he ever had to use a rifle in combat? LMAO stupid fucking morons like you make me laugh as you try to act like you know what the fuck you're talking about. get your head out of your ass and grow a fucking pair. haha you're fucking stupid
Huhmasta 1 year ago
@Huhmasta
randy was in the military and undoubtedly has fired a rifle before
good luck finding a marine who's ever "fought off multiple attackers with weapons using eye gouges," or whatever: they dont exist
you kiddy 14 year old marine corps fanboys using phrases like "act like you know what you're talking about" is hilarious, seeing as you dont know anything about fighting or the military
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar MCMAP is part of being a marine...honestly now i thought even stupid fucking morons like yourself knew that much! ahahaha. LOL what exactly were you trying to accomplish out of your retarded debate on all over this video with other users? that the marine corps sucks? sure seems like you're arguing that point SOO badly bahahaa. morons on the internet make me laugh
Huhmasta 1 year ago
@Huhmasta In the battlefield, Randy wouldn't know how to use a gun lol. Of course he would die lol.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y exactly....it's a damn shame people are stupid to realize this simple fact
Huhmasta 1 year ago
@Huhmasta While i respect the marines as deadly warriors, i do have to state my opinion too. Just cos a marine is trained to kill, doesnt mean he can guarantee to kill. Remember the moves the marines are learning, are almost identical to the moves mma guys learn. Muay thai and bjj yes? . Coming up against a pro like couture, couture can easily knock out a marine with a punch and then finish him off with some head kicks. Thats it really. No need for killer moves.
Respect to warriors :)
womblewandering 1 year ago
@womblewandering I see what you're saying. At least what you have to say actual forms a coherent thought unlike that tehpenar retard, it's just insults and boasts all around. He would probably wreck a lot marines in one on one combat, no shit.The argument here is that can Couture DO what MARINES do in the battlefield? MCMAP encompasses cqc with rifles,multiple attackers,dirty fighting, and non lethal control. Can couture do that without prior mcmap training? I think not
Huhmasta 1 year ago
@Huhmasta
Hey i respect your views. But i want to chat to you in pms to avoid trolls. I went to your channel but it says
"not available". Whys that?
womblewandering 8 months ago
@womblewandering same reason: to avoid trolls.
Huhmasta 8 months ago
@womblewandering russian soldiers fucking will pwn us marines, thanks to this gay ass mt/bjj
paladindarknite 8 months ago
USMC, so badass.
Huhmasta 1 year ago
Can't wait to do MCMAP leave in 9 days OORAH!
jj42083 1 year ago
no shit, no matter how much you train in martial arts, a bullet will kill you. but they are realistic, how many normal people you might fight carry assault weapons? besides have you ever heard of not being a dick? guns are pretty much the ultimate no balls way of just killing people. some train their whole lives, any retard can stand there and pull a trigger
Puffin141 1 year ago
"This debate boils down to a ninja vs samurai arguement. 54 seconds ago"
no it doesn't, at all
we're talking about hand-to-hand skills being applied in real world situations, and no situation you EVER encounter in life is going to come down to "hunting each other down with rifles," or whatever scenario you're imagining here.
i'm not contesting that a special forces guy is going to be better at... performing special operations
one of your little skits was "good mma fighter gets into
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
is krav maga better or this just asking
Baller4LifeNBA 1 year ago
@kusokosla
crocop was part of a special police unit; he was never in the military. the policework he did sounds just as dangerous as anything you'd do in the military though :P
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
Ok Tell em a UFC fighter who trains in the mud and cold and heat and forest and night with multiple weapons and multiple enemies and the actual fear of dieing. These guys aren't the best they are just the most worldly and extreme trained.
If you actually listen to what he said: "When they come into my world..." A UFC fighter may train in all these instances but most have never looked death in the eye and have also never had to deal with odd terrain and lethal objects around them to fall onto.
1stNightingale 1 year ago
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1stNightingale 1 year ago
8:44 Good thing we're the first ones to do it! Our show kicks so much assage (-_-)
JahnosSardonis 1 year ago
err...remind me why women are in the armed forces...?
JahnosSardonis 1 year ago
@JahnosSardonis Why?
1stNightingale 1 year ago
lol the enemy not that stupid lol.. run up and hug you??? thats move is stupid
nguyensongminh239 1 year ago
i wouldn't say they're "fat and slow," but the guy is a naive dipshit for thinking he could beat a professional hand-to-hand fighter in a hand-to-hand fight
kind of embarrassing
TehPenar 1 year ago
3:35 LOL kuz you really need to boot him in the face and knife him to the throat after you break his leg..... why not bear mace to the eyes and shoot him in the balls aswell?
DreadlockDrummer 1 year ago
@DreadlockDrummer he may have a gun that he wasn't using to stay silent but now will because his life is threatened.
1stNightingale 1 year ago
amazing
WNNxPhiL 1 year ago
military is trained to kill and win not just win a fight I train in MMA and i have nothing but respect for all military services. its Hilarious When other countries think they can defeat America. USA is number 1!!!!!!
windixinormous 1 year ago 5
@windixinormous While the world respects the US Marine Corps, the US Marine Corps respects the Korean Marine Corps (ROKMC). Learn about the "Ghost Catching Marines" and their role in the Vietnam War.
quelorepario 1 year ago
@quelorepario korean marines train like special force or seal. because they do not lager number of the population. so they neeed quality over the quantity!
tigerchinese 1 year ago
@windixinormous Omg... patriot...
QFizzV8Fizz 1 year ago
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lol americans thinking their armys the best its hilarial
ZigZagRunner 2 years ago
@ZigZagRunner Err cum sipper learn to spell. Whats so funny about us thinking our army is the bestoh yeah the need to puff yourself up by putting us down And then saying how great you are.
badgerattoadhall 1 year ago
hah randy couture coming into "his world" right i still think randy will fuck you up silly army man
js0290 2 years ago
This guy thinks that he will kill Randy Couture if he goes in "his" world ? He's the dumbest dickhead in the world. Not a smart thing to say when the camera is on.
Heremyusername 2 years ago
marines tend to be borderline retarded
this is coming from a former 0311, btw
TehPenar 1 year ago
Nice vid, but I should stick to Fairbairn & Applegate method.
FranzReganit 2 years ago
america1o would you stfu! mkay
jiriterp 2 years ago 2
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PUSSYS
america1o 2 years ago
3:08 why not strike to the balla?whey more efective...
dulaziom 2 years ago
cool
yomtumthai2 2 years ago
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GAY SHIT
america1o 2 years ago
@america1o
your dumb these guys are the reason y u speak English
mmagamer4life 2 years ago
@mmagamer4life hell yea it is!
Partyhardydan 2 years ago
this doesnt look very effective to me im in israeli special forces (sayeret matkal) krav maga is more effective
orenr100 2 years ago 2
@orenr100 krav maga kicks ass
vordonez12 2 years ago
Mostly former and still-in-the-Army soldiers are in UFC or MMA. For example Brian Stann, Brandon Wolff or Martin Stapleton.
labidala 2 years ago
Go watch "Fight Quest" there you can see professional UFC fighters gets ass kicked by Israelian, Philipine and Russian soldiers.
labidala 2 years ago 8
@labidala
in fught quest they are not UFC fighters they are por mma fighters
mmagamer4life 2 years ago
lmao.."the ghettos of baghdad"
ITF91 2 years ago
"The Soldier then..."? No. "The MARINE Then...".
Disturbedownz1408 2 years ago
That rolling knee bar looks really useful if you get surprised with a hug from behind.
matrixfan58 2 years ago
Agreed. A highly unlikely attack. What would be more likely is a rifle butt to the top of the spine. Can you say "instant kill"
jesseh22 2 years ago
hahaha, kill randy.... what a fucking joke
Tris67 2 years ago 2
bwhahahahha randy would murder that turkey
dildojaxon 2 years ago 6
Uh, that's not fat but muscle.
Inferman 2 years ago
He would kill Randy Couture? LoL..
My money is on the guy who trains martial arts twice a day, 6-7 hours a day, every day. And has been doing so for over three decades.
Robopencil 2 years ago 4
yeah, the guy is a moron
despite what armchair badasses claim, military martial arts in general tend to be less effective than "sport" martial arts, because military engagements are practically never fought hand to hand
if a marine is forced to use any of this stuff in a real firefight, he has probably already failed and is on his last legs
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar I am not a marines fan boy and personally think most US military aren't as great as most military's out there but the martial art certainly is not to blame its the people using it.
1stNightingale 1 year ago
disagreed // military cqc is universally inferior to the "civilian" stuff from everything i've seen
TehPenar 1 year ago
Wel then you haven't seen the ranges of "Civilian stuff" there are some pointless shit and completely unadaptable martial arts out there.
1stNightingale 1 year ago
i'm obviously not talking shit martial arts that people never implement into competitive fighting
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar I think you are forgetting an important part of martial arts, its techniques and combat tactics are strongly influenced, enhanced and limited by its context.
Tae Kwon Do for example was especially designed for war, and its efficacy was proven and amazed the American marines and army in the Vietnam war. Actually the creation of MCMAP was inspired by the efficient ROKMC's Tae Kwon Do skills in combat in the Vietnam war.
Sports are sports, war is war, this difference should be clear.
quelorepario 1 year ago
@quelorepario
oh, right. i keep forgetting that, despite being next to useless is real hand-to-hand fights, tae kwon do is amazing against people in war with rifles and body armor!
you're a fucking idiot, fyi
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar there are two kind of pedantic assholes: the knowledgeable ones and the ignorant ones. You undoubtedly fall in the latter category.
Learn a little bit about the history of mcmap and the rokmc before opening your mouth.
quelorepario 1 year ago
@quelorepario
you type like a massive pseudo-intellectual and have no idea what you're talking about
im sure you read on wikipedia that the us marines were unhappy about the vietnamese fearing the rok marines because of their "close quarters tae kwon do skill" or whatever variant of that bullshit you weren't smart enough to sniff out, but tae kwon do and mcmap are both horribly ineffective fighting systems
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar O RLY? Let me tell you something. Have you ever played poker? Because I love when kids are bluffing MY hand.
Just a word of advice: Right now you are about to spit upwards, if you are not certain about winning, you shouldn't bet all in.
quelorepario 1 year ago
@quelorepario
you have aspergers or something, idk
TehPenar 1 year ago
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@TehPenar You are truly pathetic
quelorepario 1 year ago
@quelorepario
the argument that "tae kwon is a great system for real fighting despite being total garbage in mma" or whatever stupid shit you're trying to say is hilarious. tae kwon do is horribly mediocre at best, and the way it's taught is even worse (at least 99% of tae kwon do practitioners dont do full contact sparring on a regular basis, and when you watch the ones that do, their "tae kwon do" seems to be more similar to a really generic form of kickboxing than what you see in demos)
TehPenar 1 year ago
@quelorepario
trying to measure how effective elite forces (like the rok marines or marsoc) are based on their hand-to-hand training is pretty retarded either way: if you havent noticed, we dont fight wars with our hands and feet
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XIPM3 1 year ago
your concept of "civilian martial arts" seems to be stupid shit like children's karate
i am a former marine, son. take your mcmap into a brazilian jiu jitsu gym and roll with the purple-belt blacks, then come back and tell me how far your afterthought cqc "training" got you. i'd recommend trying the same thing with muay thai practitioners, except you'd end up with more than a bruised ego if you did that
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
@XIPM3
i mean, it's VERY clear that you don't train in competitive martial arts and have probably never done a real cagefight or anything
mcmap isn't worthless -- it prepares marines to handle 130 pound arabs should they need hand to hand combat for whatever reason (let's face it: an absolutely tiny number of servicemen will ever use anything they've been taught in cqc on a battlefield), but training mcmap will get you nowhere against sport fighters
i got my brown belt in mcmap with under
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
@XIPM3
most "military men" are pussies, just like most civilians are
you'd know this if you'd ever been in the military
TehPenar 1 year ago
@TehPenar ... yeah-I agree, mcmap is applicable in many ways however with regards to cagefighting its like comparing apples to oranges since extreme cagefighting is in its own league, anyway take care and have a good one.
MightySaturn5 1 year ago
@XIPM3
70 hours of training total -- getting a brown belt in brazillian jiu jitsu will probably take you well over half a decade. the degree of mastery is not the same
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
@XIPM3
with all due respect, i feel your example is flawed for a number of reasons:
1) the majority of people in almost every MOS (including army and marine corps infantrymen) are going to be nowhere near the level of a green beret (or any other special operations unit, for that matter)
2) a good handful of special operations personal have civilian fighting backgrounds
3) even taking these into account, i'm going to have to disagree. there seems to be a misconception among people who've never
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
@XIPM3
i'm positive that i've already said this, but i'm a former marine corps infantryman. you're out of your fucking mind if you think marines don't go to clubs, drink, and fuck things. don't get me wrong, life as a marine SUCKS, but that's more related to curfews and cleaning shit all the time than it is to "badass mental hardship"
you honestly have an extremely inaccurate view of military life. i keep getting the impression that you're some 17 year old in the dep, but whatever
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
@XIPM3
handful of my personal friends have been in special forces or were pilots who went through a lot of "special forces schools" (like sere school)
you're fucking out of your mind if you think that military training is going to turn you into an unstoppable fist-fighting killing machine; there really isn't anything else to it
TehPenar 1 year ago
@XIPM3
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
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@XIPM3
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
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@XIPM3
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
TehPenar 1 year ago
@XIPM3
served and military men with no solid hand-to-hand background who desperately want to believe that they're the toughest of the tough that military training turns you into a total badass in every regard. military cqc doesn't stand up to civilian cqc because it doesn't have to: military men are NOT training to fight experienced, disciplined martial artists in hand-to-hand combat. they are training to fight in wars (the odds of them having to fight hand-to-hand in battle are slim, and even
TehPenar 1 year ago
@XIPM3
assuming they do have to use their hands or bayonet... well, chances are that the arab insurgent who's threatening them isn't going to be a master of muay thai or anything).
TehPenar 1 year ago
@XIPM3
the whole "mental toughness" thing people talk about is usually silly too. maybe i'd have to exclude green berets here, but the half the "mental toughness" you get in the military consists of learning to cope with taking shit from everyone. as far as the other half, toughing out physical pain and overcoming fear... yeah, pretty sure mma fighters are going to have as much of it as most military men, if not more, at least outside of a gunfight
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
@XIPM3
"MMA fighters never go through the physical brutality that elite soldiers go through"
i mean, while i'd agree that special forces indoc is probably mentally harder than any sort of conditioning period, brutality and effectiveness are not the same thing. if this were the case, north korea's army would be a lot better than america's (north korean soldiers go through a lot more shit than american ones), but this isn't the case, is it?
TehPenar 1 year ago
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@XIPM3
"infact the ground game (Half of mma training!) is completely useless in the real world because there is always the chance of multiple attackers"
are you high? a good ground game (and the understanding of leverage, anatomy, and momentum that comes along with it) is not 'useless,' even against multiple attacks. just because you can't sit there and work submissions (not like it takes a lot to submit someone else if they aren't trained in submission grappling, but even so) doesn't
TehPenar 1 year ago
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XIPM3 1 year ago
@XIPM3
i like how our street fight somehow turned into "pulling out a handgun to shoot someone in a bar"
TehPenar 1 year ago
@XIPM3
or rather, "escaping a jungle filled with insurgents"
or whatever the fuck you're trying to make this into
TehPenar 1 year ago
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@XIPM3
nullify your training as a grappler.
"18 year old in the DEP :D"
honestly, this explains more to me than you could possibly imagine, lol
" but listen, I am not talking out of my ass, i know more than a few-ex military men, rangers marines, seals, etc. "
i mean, i grew up on military bases (my father trained for light-fighter MI stuff that's similar to what most special operations forces do, and most of his close friends were sf or former-sf), i've been in the military, and a
TehPenar 1 year ago
@XIPM3
lastly, go look up the "pros vj joes" clip with randy couture fighting against various people. one of them was a marine corps close combat instructor (who by all accounts is going to be much better at fighting hand-to-hand than 99% of the military), and he still got absolutely destroyed. it wasn't even close. sure it wasn't a "fight to the death with eye gouging and ball kicking, etc," but if you can watch the clip and still hold onto your beliefs, then there's nothing else i can say
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