Disclaimer: I love Wing Chun, Sergio's awesome, & the WC knives are cool...
BUT
I'd love to see one of these WC masters spar around with someone like John Clements from the Western Swordsmanship community.
I do WC, and have for years, but I suspect that someone with even a bit of training in the western longsword or rapier would wreck even the best WC Bart Cham Do man.
@masterjulianhitch you are a prick. The knives are only good now for strength training. Do you think you will just find some behind a bin on the street to take on the guy with a 8 and 1/2 long pole ! You really are a bigger cock than I thought. And if I recall you called Sifu Sergio a REBEL ! let me know when I can come to your centre of excellence to teach you real wing tsun ££££££££
@ipmanwck You are more than welcome to apply for my apprenticeship in Wing Tsun. I will interview you personally to see if you are suitable to learn real Wing Tsun.
How can you be serieus when you teach something like this? If the other guy is good with the stick, you will never be fast enough to "catch it". You are also totally ignorant of the fact that whyle retreating his stick he can also step back. Then why would you want to put your whole arm around the stick, instead of between you and the stick? It al looks very unlogical and dangerous to me
@Friedrichwsl The way he's teaching it, it looks like it's healing with a committed thrust, and the "catch" would be better described as a deflection, which it must be possible to do unless no one has ever survived fighting against spear, combined with pressure on the other side, which would take about the same amount of time..
@Friedrichwsl As for stepping back, first off this is clearly meant to happen in one swift movement at the BEGINNING of a retreat, so whether you're just pulling back pulling back or stepping back, it can be done. Second, even if the step back is quicker or the counter is too slow to still be in range for a step back, YOU CAN STEP WITH YOUR OPPONENT and remain in range.
in my humble opinion if you fight or train with someone who can actually use the pole correclty and you "catch" it or even have it on your shoulder, you will be wearing it around the side of your head....
@alittle72 Completely blowing off a type of strategy on the virtue of "someone who's really good will beat that" eventually negates every technique.
Also, facing a pole with a shorter weapon means coming in, and while it's not perfect, keeping the pole close keeps it from a lot of its momentum-building, and keeping a limb wrapped around it can prevent the shorter power of whipping strikes..
Please don't do this against a real weapon. This is not correct use of weapon trap at all. When done correctly it can be done against any length pole, against any type of spear or any sword. Just look at where the ole is as he moves in for the slice. He would get smashed on the side side of his skull by any real pole man and sliced and hacked by any bladed weapon.
Dude... pause the vid at around 1:51 You can see that he DOES hold it in a way to protect himself from a strike like that, but during explanation he removes it.
Hmm... I guess I would have to agree with you about the expierenced pole man thing... but no disrespect to sifu sergio his technique is the superior of the two methods he alluded to
Yes I agree with Rhcpaap .... Don't look for faults when a technique is demonstrated .... Only look for faults in a live and full example of the technique... he was using the right butterfly knife as a pointer when explaining the use of the left. I guess an easy mistake to make...
That is of course if the pole man still has both of his hand attached to his arm. Not to mention his head. Sifu Sergio is slowing his movements and stopping hear and there to explain the physics of the technique. He knows what he is talking about.
great vids thanks
mrascoop 2 months ago
Disclaimer: I love Wing Chun, Sergio's awesome, & the WC knives are cool...
BUT
I'd love to see one of these WC masters spar around with someone like John Clements from the Western Swordsmanship community.
I do WC, and have for years, but I suspect that someone with even a bit of training in the western longsword or rapier would wreck even the best WC Bart Cham Do man.
TwoGunGunnar 1 year ago
@masterjulianhitch you are a prick. The knives are only good now for strength training. Do you think you will just find some behind a bin on the street to take on the guy with a 8 and 1/2 long pole ! You really are a bigger cock than I thought. And if I recall you called Sifu Sergio a REBEL ! let me know when I can come to your centre of excellence to teach you real wing tsun ££££££££
ipmanwck 1 year ago
@ipmanwck You are more than welcome to apply for my apprenticeship in Wing Tsun. I will interview you personally to see if you are suitable to learn real Wing Tsun.
MasterJulianHitch 1 year ago
The traditional Baat Cham Do form is meant for use against pole, knives, sword and shield when I teach it. I like this version.
MasterJulianHitch 1 year ago
@MasterJulianHitch You talk a load of twaddle. As a Master you should sod off.
MichaelBaker1100 1 year ago
I like the Leung Ting-Photography...
11Kralle 1 year ago
How can you be serieus when you teach something like this? If the other guy is good with the stick, you will never be fast enough to "catch it". You are also totally ignorant of the fact that whyle retreating his stick he can also step back. Then why would you want to put your whole arm around the stick, instead of between you and the stick? It al looks very unlogical and dangerous to me
Friedrichwsl 1 year ago
@Friedrichwsl The way he's teaching it, it looks like it's healing with a committed thrust, and the "catch" would be better described as a deflection, which it must be possible to do unless no one has ever survived fighting against spear, combined with pressure on the other side, which would take about the same amount of time..
DRaelrich 1 year ago
@Friedrichwsl As for stepping back, first off this is clearly meant to happen in one swift movement at the BEGINNING of a retreat, so whether you're just pulling back pulling back or stepping back, it can be done. Second, even if the step back is quicker or the counter is too slow to still be in range for a step back, YOU CAN STEP WITH YOUR OPPONENT and remain in range.
DRaelrich 1 year ago
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Friedrichwsl 1 year ago
in my humble opinion if you fight or train with someone who can actually use the pole correclty and you "catch" it or even have it on your shoulder, you will be wearing it around the side of your head....
alittle72 1 year ago
@alittle72 Completely blowing off a type of strategy on the virtue of "someone who's really good will beat that" eventually negates every technique.
Also, facing a pole with a shorter weapon means coming in, and while it's not perfect, keeping the pole close keeps it from a lot of its momentum-building, and keeping a limb wrapped around it can prevent the shorter power of whipping strikes..
DRaelrich 1 year ago
Thank you!
ObaNarayanShivaji999 1 year ago
Please don't do this against a real weapon. This is not correct use of weapon trap at all. When done correctly it can be done against any length pole, against any type of spear or any sword. Just look at where the ole is as he moves in for the slice. He would get smashed on the side side of his skull by any real pole man and sliced and hacked by any bladed weapon.
heynotnow 2 years ago
@heynotnow
Dude... pause the vid at around 1:51 You can see that he DOES hold it in a way to protect himself from a strike like that, but during explanation he removes it.
rhcpaap 2 years ago 5
@heynotnowthen please show us your (correct) version..
protector747 2 years ago 3
Hmm... I guess I would have to agree with you about the expierenced pole man thing... but no disrespect to sifu sergio his technique is the superior of the two methods he alluded to
MasterChince 2 years ago
Yes I agree with Rhcpaap .... Don't look for faults when a technique is demonstrated .... Only look for faults in a live and full example of the technique... he was using the right butterfly knife as a pointer when explaining the use of the left. I guess an easy mistake to make...
PaulConway1973 2 years ago
That is of course if the pole man still has both of his hand attached to his arm. Not to mention his head. Sifu Sergio is slowing his movements and stopping hear and there to explain the physics of the technique. He knows what he is talking about.
GungFu4Life 1 year ago
Good application...
Marvel952 2 years ago
thank you sifu great video
unclecow 2 years ago