Wow that was a bad call. I mean, UCLA really must have paid that ref alot. One of the worst calls I've ever seen. Given that it was at the end of the game, probably the worst. Wonder how many of UCLA's victories are tainted by stuff like this? Seems like they had a stretch where they got every call on earth. Karma is a bitch though, think they're in for some lean years...
Moron2011, please tell me you are playing. That is terrible? It's basketball, you whiner........Ucla should should be ashamed of what? Being a consistly good team? Should UCLA go public and say the refs made a mistake getting them to the Final 4 3 years in row? Are you crying cause the Aggies are nobodys? Or are you just an agry little man?
That is terrible. UCLA should be ashamed they got away with so many cheap calls at the end of games. Wow they must have forgotten to fly in their refs when they played Memphis. I know exactly how the Stanford fans feel because the Aggies got robbed at the hands of the obviously paid off UCLA refs also. I hate what college and profesional basketball is turing into. Dwayne wade and Kobe get almost every single call because of the fact they are star players. The same thing goes for UCLA.
Worst call ever. And there are a lot of bad calls in pac 10 games.
And to all the bruin fans desperately trying to justify the call with all the pathetic "there was body contact" or "his hand touched collison's elbow on the way up"..STFU.
No one, and I mean NO ONE agrees with you. Analysts from ESPN, CNNSI, The head of Pac 10 officiating and Collison himself ALL agree that it wasn't a foul.
You had the game handed to you, admit it. The rest of the country hates you.
@peerspark really did u go up to collison himself and ask if he thought it was a foul!!
No so shutup fag, might be a bad call! but bad calls happen ever game just look at the kansas-ucla game! bad call at the end cost us the game! STFU u piece of shit!
and will everyone stop saying that the call shouldn't have mattered becasue stanford gave up a 14 point lead. hmmm, let's see, stanford outplayed ucla in the first half, and when ucla came back in the second they only managed to tie it, BECAUSE STANFORD OUTPLAYED UCLA IN THE FIRST HALF!!! it doesn't matter who has the momentum at the end of the game, all that matters is the current situation. The current situation was: stanford was winning, and they got a bullshit call. nothing else matters!
No doubt these calls could have gone either way, but in the end UCLA walks away with the win...their only blame is in not hitting their three-balls earlier in the game (SHIP!) so that Love can pound it in the paint...then these games wouldn't be close and we could spend our time watching videos of Westbrook's amazing dunks instead of trying to discern a foul from these low-rez vids!
this call should not have gone "either way" this was a complete blown call that could only be interpreted as a foul by a retard. Stanford should have won, ucla should not have had a number one seed. UCLA gets the same bullshit treatment Kobe gets for the lakers, someone looks at kobe while hes driving to the basket and its a god damn foul. REFS ARE SUPPOSED TO SWALLOW THE WHISTLE whith that much time left, unless it is a BLATENT foul. and that was a blatent BLOCK
Thst fuckin bullshit,please tell me where it says to swallow ur whistle and ignore the game becuz of the time? The defender jumped forward breaking the vertical plane and by doing so made body contact with the shooter which in any "organized" is a foul. Get off the fuckin playground read some rules. U and the announcers r ignorant. People need to stop watching the damn ball so much and c wat else is going on during a play.
That's why Stanford didn't shoot a free throw until 7 min left in the second half right? Refs were calling for UCLA all game. You don't know anything about basketball.
u dumbass, i no u were fuckin shaking when u saw collison get swatted, u must have almost pissed urself before u saw the ref call a foul. "That "shot" was a complete block. I was very fortunate to get a foul on that last call." -Darren Collison
It was a good block. In a close game like this its natural to concentrate on the very last play. However there were at least 3 other obvious missed calls. A travel on Mbah Moute, a blatant double dribble on Stanford, and of course the foul called on Mbah Moute at the end of the game. Love boxed out lopez while Mbah Moute got the rebound. There was NO contact. it was not even close, or questionable. so it evened out
this is just so... clean and... beautiful. Stanford shows GREAT defense in the most crucial moment and gets punished for it. Whoever has the idea that Stanford deserves to get punished for that just because they were up 14 pts is a retard. They scored the points not your grandma. And they were still leading.
Would ANY of this matter if Stanford wasn't a bitch team and gave up a huge lead like that? There's a reason why UCLA is #3 in the nation after playing in the toughest conference. BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST TEAM.
Are you kidding. Of course it would matter. And if your a UCLA fan, read the articles. Nick Collison even said the block was clean. It's true Stanford could have played a better second half and avoided the situation but big calls at the end of games and during games make a difference. Give me a break. And you say Stanford is the bitch team when your watching a video of a nice swat on Collison, give credit where credit is due.
Hill didn't complain. "He drew contact when he went to the basket," Hill said. "It was still on him to make the free throws."
The director of Pac-10 officials made a statement saying that it was the correct call, but not necessarily a strong one. At that juncture in the game, it probably shouldn't have been called due to the lack of strength in the call. But who's to decide that?
McCabe told ESPN, "There was body contact, but it's not a strong call, not a game-appropriate call. It's not an incorrect call and that doesn't make it wrong. But I want solid calls."
He says it was "not incorrect" but also says it was "not a game-appropriate call"... so, in other words, he punts.
@Alanamaslama Wow, the director of the Pac-10 defended his officials!? There's a shocker. That is an absolutely abysmal call. The ref five feet away decided not do call it even though he had a perfect angle to see the play. Why didn't he call anything? Hmmmm... yet, the ref farther away, and in the back of the play called a foul he couldn't possibly have seen.
If there even was any body contact, it was initiated by the offensive player.
Bad call, no way around it. Who's to decide it? Anyone!
don't give this body contact crap. there is body contact on every f****** play. There were two plays where westbrook traveled and love double-dribbled. COLLISON JUST GOT TOSSED!!!!!
Stanford coach Trent Johnson said today (the day after the game), "We missed two block outs and had three turnovers prior to the [call] so it shouldn't have come to that. That's not what got us beat."
Watch the X-Mo closely. It looks like Hill gets Collison's shooting arm with his left hand (the one that doesn't touch the ball). But I think the call here was definitely influenced by the charge at the other end.
Officials are always horrible. If you accept this premise, losses won't hurt as much. That was the best basketball game I have ever seen in person. Go Bruins!
Please, that wasn't a charge on Law Hill. I've looked at Law Hill's shot a ton of times. Take a look at where Law Hill takes off and where he lands, and the position of the defender. Based on that trajectory, there's not much contact there, if any. That was the defender flopping. It was a good no call.
Even if you read the Stanford Daily, the opinion was that it had to be either a travel or charge. Just before that included plays where there was a clear double-dribble wasn't called on Hill and also a phantom foul call on Mbah a Moute rebound.
They key point is, Stanford was up by 14 and broke down to get to that final foul call. The PAC-10 official has reviewed the play and acknowledged that it's not a "strong call". But it's not a wrong call either.
In post game, Hill said that Collison drew contact and deserved the foul. However, Collison called it a "make up" foul. I think both players realized this call wouldn't have as much significance if the offensive charge Hill made was called correctly just seconds before this play.
Pac-10 officiating is the worst. They made horrible calls both ways, the entire game. They missed several Stanford traveling calls and that blatant double dribble.
Fact is, Stanford had an 11 point lead with 5 min left and could not finish. You can't blame the outcome of a game on one call. If it was the other way around I would be upset too but, the referees did not "hand" UCLA anything.
Im not a fan of either team but that is a ridiculous call at any juncture of the game, let alone the last 3 seconds. Its impossible not to have body contact when the offensive player jumps into the defender like that. The defender went up pretty straight and cleanly got all ball. There was very minimal body contact for the amount that Collison jumped into the defender. It was a terrible call.
Thats almost as bad as when Jordan Pushed off to hit that winning shot aginst the Jazz a few years back,You know the one that was an offensive foul but was a no call because it was Jordan, that launched Jordan into greatness that never should have happened. And by the way all you UCLA bandwagoners you wont even make it to the Sweet 16,You lost to the Washington Huskies for christ sake,COME ON and pull your heads out of your asses now and talk logically if your going to say anything
Worst call ever. I'll put it this way, if UCLA fans want to claim that this is in any way a foul, then every player in the game should have fouled out by half time. Refs NEVER call fouls on contact like that. Hill blocked that as cleanly as possible. Horrible call. I don't know how much UCLA paid the refs, but they got their money's worth.
Hill jumps forward a little bit. If you look at the movement of Hill's torso and compare it to the State Farm post in the background, Hill moves halfway across the width of the post when going up for the foul. The timing is difficult--to me it looks like either Collison jumped a bajillionth of a second before Hill did OR they jumped at the same time--but that's one of those "benefit of the doubt" calls in the sense that the "defense reacts to offense."
Lawrence Hill jumps straight up and comes down exactly where he started. He clearly has position and if he had stayed on the ground it would have been a charge -- but, unlike UCLA, Hill wasn't depending on the refs to bail him out. The contact is initiated by Collison. Verticality says no foul.
Wrong moron. The defender jumped STRAIGHT up...go dust off the rulebook once again and learn about VERTICALITY. Defender had no forward progress, the shooter did.
If you watch the defender's LEFT arm (not the one that got all ball) in real-time speed, it looks like he might have hit Collison's arm, especially at that angle, which is the same view that the ref had. Take a second look.
You guys can't even make up your mind -- you've got people arguing it was on the arm before the shot, people arguing it was the body. There is some body contact and no arm contact but definitely not enough body to warrant a foul with 2.5 seconds to go and given the way the game was being called.
In other words, it wasn't a real HARD foul. With 2.5 seconds, it has to be a foul that hits his arm (which I saw) and not just his body. The fact that when Hill hit Collison's body and pushed it away from the basket shouldn't be called.
That's some terrific insight, GoCard07. Watch the replay again with the sound off. When I saw it live in real time, I thought it was a foul. On replay if you watch body contact body, it was a foul. Or do the rules change at the 2.5 second mark?
Hill hit his body. That was a foul whether it was 2.5 second or 2.5 minutes to go. Or do the rules change at the end of the game? Watch it again with the sound off and you'll see what I mean.
He wasn't exactly straight up, he was moving forward and laterally a bit. Verticality wouldn't apply if that was what the official saw.
Am I saying I would have called the foul? No. I don't think it was clear enough to call it the way it was. But all I am saying is that I can see how the official saw the blocking foul.
The official only has one shot, in real time, to make a call or non-call. Seeing the replay over and over makes it seem as if the official had time to really consider the play..
At the point of contact, you are incorrect, it is the Center's call. Our Officials Manual this year gives L the PCA from the center of the free throw lane, up to free throw line extended to the 3PT arc. However, this play occured on the calling official, C's side of the court - C has PCA responsibilities here. He was correct in being the official to make the call - just whether the call was a wise one... could go either way. It looked like he might have been straightlined a bit, but did his best
I dont know how you can claim thats the center's call -- its along the baseline right in front of the lead. Plus, its the tail who made the call with a bad angle.
Initially, I thought the Trail made the call too, but if you look at it again, you'll see the Lead in Transition running to his position on the baseline, opposite the calling official. In two man, the calling official would undoubtedly be the Trail. But in three man, he is the Center. The Trail is out of the picture, still in the backcourt in this fast break. Because it is in transition, it looks a lot less organized than it actually is.
what the hell ever im a huge north carolina fan and any idiot could see that the refs decided the outcome of the game if you think that was a foul then you need your eyes checked all ball hardley any body if any
Wow that was a bad call. I mean, UCLA really must have paid that ref alot. One of the worst calls I've ever seen. Given that it was at the end of the game, probably the worst. Wonder how many of UCLA's victories are tainted by stuff like this? Seems like they had a stretch where they got every call on earth. Karma is a bitch though, think they're in for some lean years...
hurculean 2 years ago
i think the ref was going by the body check by hill cuz the block was clean
president234 3 years ago
Moron2011, please tell me you are playing. That is terrible? It's basketball, you whiner........Ucla should should be ashamed of what? Being a consistly good team? Should UCLA go public and say the refs made a mistake getting them to the Final 4 3 years in row? Are you crying cause the Aggies are nobodys? Or are you just an agry little man?
silvrnblk 3 years ago
That is terrible. UCLA should be ashamed they got away with so many cheap calls at the end of games. Wow they must have forgotten to fly in their refs when they played Memphis. I know exactly how the Stanford fans feel because the Aggies got robbed at the hands of the obviously paid off UCLA refs also. I hate what college and profesional basketball is turing into. Dwayne wade and Kobe get almost every single call because of the fact they are star players. The same thing goes for UCLA.
mwr2011 3 years ago
Obviously paid off refs? lol. be a little more ignorant.
I guess UCLA is in some serious debt after playing off all the refs to get them to the final four 3 years in a row.
Stupid comment by an ignorant.
doobiesz 3 years ago
lol not that extreme... but ucla gets soooo maannyy bullshit calls in there favor at the end of games
jdwooch1 2 years ago
i wandder where all of ucla's money really goes? yah we know you pay the ref
tytucker06 3 years ago
it seems that every1 from A&M to Cal. to Stanford gets bad calls against them when it matters against UCLA...
iburs354 3 years ago
Terrible call !!!!!!!!!!!!!
behindtheback5 3 years ago
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All these jealous fans make me giddy. 11 National Titles and counting. 100 NCAA Titles and counting. Suck it haters.....
Keirdance 4 years ago
Worst call ever. And there are a lot of bad calls in pac 10 games.
And to all the bruin fans desperately trying to justify the call with all the pathetic "there was body contact" or "his hand touched collison's elbow on the way up"..STFU.
No one, and I mean NO ONE agrees with you. Analysts from ESPN, CNNSI, The head of Pac 10 officiating and Collison himself ALL agree that it wasn't a foul.
You had the game handed to you, admit it. The rest of the country hates you.
peerspark 4 years ago 5
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xxUCLABruins24xx 1 year ago
@peerspark really did u go up to collison himself and ask if he thought it was a foul!!
No so shutup fag, might be a bad call! but bad calls happen ever game just look at the kansas-ucla game! bad call at the end cost us the game! STFU u piece of shit!
xxUCLABruins24xx 1 year ago
Is Hill's left hand hitting Collison's elbow?
templarknightx 4 years ago
and will everyone stop saying that the call shouldn't have mattered becasue stanford gave up a 14 point lead. hmmm, let's see, stanford outplayed ucla in the first half, and when ucla came back in the second they only managed to tie it, BECAUSE STANFORD OUTPLAYED UCLA IN THE FIRST HALF!!! it doesn't matter who has the momentum at the end of the game, all that matters is the current situation. The current situation was: stanford was winning, and they got a bullshit call. nothing else matters!
Stnfrd850 4 years ago
btw, the comment below was directed at plavchan
Stnfrd850 4 years ago
No doubt these calls could have gone either way, but in the end UCLA walks away with the win...their only blame is in not hitting their three-balls earlier in the game (SHIP!) so that Love can pound it in the paint...then these games wouldn't be close and we could spend our time watching videos of Westbrook's amazing dunks instead of trying to discern a foul from these low-rez vids!
choulaojiu 4 years ago
this call should not have gone "either way" this was a complete blown call that could only be interpreted as a foul by a retard. Stanford should have won, ucla should not have had a number one seed. UCLA gets the same bullshit treatment Kobe gets for the lakers, someone looks at kobe while hes driving to the basket and its a god damn foul. REFS ARE SUPPOSED TO SWALLOW THE WHISTLE whith that much time left, unless it is a BLATENT foul. and that was a blatent BLOCK
michaud91 3 years ago
Thst fuckin bullshit,please tell me where it says to swallow ur whistle and ignore the game becuz of the time? The defender jumped forward breaking the vertical plane and by doing so made body contact with the shooter which in any "organized" is a foul. Get off the fuckin playground read some rules. U and the announcers r ignorant. People need to stop watching the damn ball so much and c wat else is going on during a play.
chitownref 2 years ago
i can see the contact, but it is a horrible call
baconisyummy1 4 years ago
Definitely body contact, and throw that in with the earlier non-calls on Stanford, I'll take the foul. Go Bruins!
plavchan 4 years ago
That's why Stanford didn't shoot a free throw until 7 min left in the second half right? Refs were calling for UCLA all game. You don't know anything about basketball.
Giantswm24 4 years ago
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Signed, NCAA athlete
plavchan 4 years ago
Hahahahahaaahaa,
Signed, NCAA Athlete
plavchan 4 years ago
I'm sure you are, every night when you dream.
Giantswm24 4 years ago
Hahhhahahahahahaaa...
Sincerely,
NCAA Athlete
plavchan 4 years ago
u dumbass, i no u were fuckin shaking when u saw collison get swatted, u must have almost pissed urself before u saw the ref call a foul. "That "shot" was a complete block. I was very fortunate to get a foul on that last call." -Darren Collison
Stnfrd850 4 years ago
It was a good block. In a close game like this its natural to concentrate on the very last play. However there were at least 3 other obvious missed calls. A travel on Mbah Moute, a blatant double dribble on Stanford, and of course the foul called on Mbah Moute at the end of the game. Love boxed out lopez while Mbah Moute got the rebound. There was NO contact. it was not even close, or questionable. so it evened out
kevindar 4 years ago
crock of shit
ucdtim17 4 years ago
this is just so... clean and... beautiful. Stanford shows GREAT defense in the most crucial moment and gets punished for it. Whoever has the idea that Stanford deserves to get punished for that just because they were up 14 pts is a retard. They scored the points not your grandma. And they were still leading.
martinibluex 4 years ago
Would ANY of this matter if Stanford wasn't a bitch team and gave up a huge lead like that? There's a reason why UCLA is #3 in the nation after playing in the toughest conference. BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST TEAM.
Freepablo 4 years ago
Are you kidding. Of course it would matter. And if your a UCLA fan, read the articles. Nick Collison even said the block was clean. It's true Stanford could have played a better second half and avoided the situation but big calls at the end of games and during games make a difference. Give me a break. And you say Stanford is the bitch team when your watching a video of a nice swat on Collison, give credit where credit is due.
Eriginality 4 years ago
Hill didn't complain. "He drew contact when he went to the basket," Hill said. "It was still on him to make the free throws."
The director of Pac-10 officials made a statement saying that it was the correct call, but not necessarily a strong one. At that juncture in the game, it probably shouldn't have been called due to the lack of strength in the call. But who's to decide that?
Alanamaslama 4 years ago
Thats not exactly what he said:
McCabe told ESPN, "There was body contact, but it's not a strong call, not a game-appropriate call. It's not an incorrect call and that doesn't make it wrong. But I want solid calls."
He says it was "not incorrect" but also says it was "not a game-appropriate call"... so, in other words, he punts.
GoCard07 4 years ago
@Alanamaslama Wow, the director of the Pac-10 defended his officials!? There's a shocker. That is an absolutely abysmal call. The ref five feet away decided not do call it even though he had a perfect angle to see the play. Why didn't he call anything? Hmmmm... yet, the ref farther away, and in the back of the play called a foul he couldn't possibly have seen.
If there even was any body contact, it was initiated by the offensive player.
Bad call, no way around it. Who's to decide it? Anyone!
tywonellington 1 year ago
if "THEY'RE THE BEST TEAM" then why are they #3?
HA1L2TH3K1NG 4 years ago
if "THEY'RE THE BEST TEAM" then why are they #3?
HA1L2TH3K1NG 4 years ago
body contact = foul
The idea that Hill isn't moving forward is a complete joke.
Iam3elliott 4 years ago
don't give this body contact crap. there is body contact on every f****** play. There were two plays where westbrook traveled and love double-dribbled. COLLISON JUST GOT TOSSED!!!!!
sdsu2231 4 years ago 7
i wonder if tim donaghy is behind this.
skullwingsword 4 years ago 2
that was all ball
gtfan44 4 years ago 2
watch?v=3tvpFmV5w_w
Maclaffy 4 years ago
Stanford coach Trent Johnson said today (the day after the game), "We missed two block outs and had three turnovers prior to the [call] so it shouldn't have come to that. That's not what got us beat."
ebtorres 4 years ago
Watch the X-Mo closely. It looks like Hill gets Collison's shooting arm with his left hand (the one that doesn't touch the ball). But I think the call here was definitely influenced by the charge at the other end.
Officials are always horrible. If you accept this premise, losses won't hurt as much. That was the best basketball game I have ever seen in person. Go Bruins!
ElDingosto 4 years ago
Please, that wasn't a charge on Law Hill. I've looked at Law Hill's shot a ton of times. Take a look at where Law Hill takes off and where he lands, and the position of the defender. Based on that trajectory, there's not much contact there, if any. That was the defender flopping. It was a good no call.
gocard80 4 years ago
Even if you read the Stanford Daily, the opinion was that it had to be either a travel or charge. Just before that included plays where there was a clear double-dribble wasn't called on Hill and also a phantom foul call on Mbah a Moute rebound.
They key point is, Stanford was up by 14 and broke down to get to that final foul call. The PAC-10 official has reviewed the play and acknowledged that it's not a "strong call". But it's not a wrong call either.
paullee80 4 years ago
In post game, Hill said that Collison drew contact and deserved the foul. However, Collison called it a "make up" foul. I think both players realized this call wouldn't have as much significance if the offensive charge Hill made was called correctly just seconds before this play.
paullee80 4 years ago
Pac-10 officiating is the worst. They made horrible calls both ways, the entire game. They missed several Stanford traveling calls and that blatant double dribble.
Fact is, Stanford had an 11 point lead with 5 min left and could not finish. You can't blame the outcome of a game on one call. If it was the other way around I would be upset too but, the referees did not "hand" UCLA anything.
ebtorres 4 years ago
NCAA are a joke
tictacjuggalo 4 years ago
Im not a fan of either team but that is a ridiculous call at any juncture of the game, let alone the last 3 seconds. Its impossible not to have body contact when the offensive player jumps into the defender like that. The defender went up pretty straight and cleanly got all ball. There was very minimal body contact for the amount that Collison jumped into the defender. It was a terrible call.
sooner518 4 years ago
that was frickin clean
trevorgleadle 4 years ago
Thats almost as bad as when Jordan Pushed off to hit that winning shot aginst the Jazz a few years back,You know the one that was an offensive foul but was a no call because it was Jordan, that launched Jordan into greatness that never should have happened. And by the way all you UCLA bandwagoners you wont even make it to the Sweet 16,You lost to the Washington Huskies for christ sake,COME ON and pull your heads out of your asses now and talk logically if your going to say anything
hawksman53 4 years ago
Losing to the Washington Huskies means UCLA can't get to the Final Four? The 1991 UNLV Runnin' Rebels NCAA Champs lost to the UCSB Gauchos.
Do you think Stanford will get to the Sweet 16 with a loss to SIENA? Every team drops the ball at some point in time. It happens in college hoops.
Alanamaslama 4 years ago
"That was block," said Collison. "That was a complete block. We were fortunate to get a foul called."
gocard80 4 years ago 2
Hill didn't complain. "He drew contact when he went to the basket," Hill said. "It was still on him to make the free throws."
Alanamaslama 4 years ago
wow terrible call, that was just straight up defense.
itsherbie33 4 years ago
Worst call ever. I'll put it this way, if UCLA fans want to claim that this is in any way a foul, then every player in the game should have fouled out by half time. Refs NEVER call fouls on contact like that. Hill blocked that as cleanly as possible. Horrible call. I don't know how much UCLA paid the refs, but they got their money's worth.
peerspark 4 years ago
I'll keep that in mind when I'm watching the Bruins in the final 4. lol
saulsaenz79 4 years ago
Lol @ GreekDish. Get over it Falafel breath.
saulsaenz79 4 years ago
Hill jumps forward a little bit. If you look at the movement of Hill's torso and compare it to the State Farm post in the background, Hill moves halfway across the width of the post when going up for the foul. The timing is difficult--to me it looks like either Collison jumped a bajillionth of a second before Hill did OR they jumped at the same time--but that's one of those "benefit of the doubt" calls in the sense that the "defense reacts to offense."
Alanamaslama 4 years ago
That was technically the correct call.
Blocking foul.
CAScreaminDude 4 years ago
Lawrence Hill jumps straight up and comes down exactly where he started. He clearly has position and if he had stayed on the ground it would have been a charge -- but, unlike UCLA, Hill wasn't depending on the refs to bail him out. The contact is initiated by Collison. Verticality says no foul.
GoCard07 4 years ago
You are an f'ing idiot.
Get your eyes checked son
doresdb21 4 years ago
yeah but does anyone remember the charge they didnt call the play earlier. those refs were garbage both ways. just a make up call
otownmo23 4 years ago
it was a foul by body contact i agree, but it still shouldn't have been called I think. but it was a foul.
nickka2007 4 years ago
AWFUL!!!!!!!!
msriniv 4 years ago
*dusts off ye ol' rulebook*
Body contact initiated by the defender's forward progress = F-O-U-L
Save your tears for Brett Favre.
saulsaenz79 4 years ago
Wrong moron. The defender jumped STRAIGHT up...go dust off the rulebook once again and learn about VERTICALITY. Defender had no forward progress, the shooter did.
Horrible call for an overrated team.
greekdish 4 years ago
If you watch the defender's LEFT arm (not the one that got all ball) in real-time speed, it looks like he might have hit Collison's arm, especially at that angle, which is the same view that the ref had. Take a second look.
myaqui 4 years ago
Is that a three-peat?
leyritz 4 years ago
unfortunate calls both ways tonight, but ultimately UCLA was the better team tonight.
Did the refs bring them back from a 15 point deficit?? Stanford had it locked, but UCLA started playing to their caliber.
saulsaenz79 4 years ago
No UCLA was not the better team that night they were outplayed the entire night accept in over-time which shouldnt have even played
pistonsfan1991 4 years ago
You guys can't even make up your mind -- you've got people arguing it was on the arm before the shot, people arguing it was the body. There is some body contact and no arm contact but definitely not enough body to warrant a foul with 2.5 seconds to go and given the way the game was being called.
GoCard07 4 years ago
In other words, it wasn't a real HARD foul. With 2.5 seconds, it has to be a foul that hits his arm (which I saw) and not just his body. The fact that when Hill hit Collison's body and pushed it away from the basket shouldn't be called.
That's some terrific insight, GoCard07. Watch the replay again with the sound off. When I saw it live in real time, I thought it was a foul. On replay if you watch body contact body, it was a foul. Or do the rules change at the 2.5 second mark?
Manric0 4 years ago
Hill hit his body. That was a foul whether it was 2.5 second or 2.5 minutes to go. Or do the rules change at the end of the game? Watch it again with the sound off and you'll see what I mean.
Manric0 4 years ago
NO -- Hill had position and jumped straight up. Therefore, the contact is irrelevant. Contact is not always a foul.
GoCard07 4 years ago
He wasn't exactly straight up, he was moving forward and laterally a bit. Verticality wouldn't apply if that was what the official saw.
Am I saying I would have called the foul? No. I don't think it was clear enough to call it the way it was. But all I am saying is that I can see how the official saw the blocking foul.
The official only has one shot, in real time, to make a call or non-call. Seeing the replay over and over makes it seem as if the official had time to really consider the play..
CAScreaminDude 4 years ago
If it was the bump then the baseline ref should have made the call. The sideline ref's angle was of Collison's back.
GoCard07 4 years ago
At the point of contact, you are incorrect, it is the Center's call. Our Officials Manual this year gives L the PCA from the center of the free throw lane, up to free throw line extended to the 3PT arc. However, this play occured on the calling official, C's side of the court - C has PCA responsibilities here. He was correct in being the official to make the call - just whether the call was a wise one... could go either way. It looked like he might have been straightlined a bit, but did his best
CAScreaminDude 4 years ago
I dont know how you can claim thats the center's call -- its along the baseline right in front of the lead. Plus, its the tail who made the call with a bad angle.
GoCard07 4 years ago
Initially, I thought the Trail made the call too, but if you look at it again, you'll see the Lead in Transition running to his position on the baseline, opposite the calling official. In two man, the calling official would undoubtedly be the Trail. But in three man, he is the Center. The Trail is out of the picture, still in the backcourt in this fast break. Because it is in transition, it looks a lot less organized than it actually is.
CAScreaminDude 4 years ago
Reported on CBS just now... head of NCAA officiating apologized to Trent, should have been made by baseline ref.
GoCard07 4 years ago
That IS a foul. Quit complaining Stanford fans.
view2000 4 years ago
what the hell ever im a huge north carolina fan and any idiot could see that the refs decided the outcome of the game if you think that was a foul then you need your eyes checked all ball hardley any body if any
pistonsfan1991 4 years ago
Body contact = F-o-u-l
saulsaenz79 4 years ago