@KalEl600rr Please, have you ever been to China? I have, and I was in Beijng and still I saw people begging for money everyday. China has a lot of poor people, a lot. The standard in China is very low compared to most European countrys and north America. China will soon have a BMP as high as USA BUT they have three times as many people. So BMP per capita is not that impressive. One day western countrys will move their production to countrys like Romania, Albania etc. Then what?
One day china will move away from the dollar. And unlike other weak countries, the US cant do anything about it militarily and sure as hell not economically.
Have you been to China? They don't build trains to starve people. They build trains to move people around. Trains are more affordable and they can move more people than airplanes. You why know China is so poor, it because of foreign invasion in the 19th and 20th century. The commies are the one that revive their economy to what they are now today. Rank the 300th poorest country 30 years ago to number 2 economy in 2011? Commie what???
Chinese copies Japanese and German technology and remove the safety mechanisms and calls it "original" and "fastest"
now 200 people injured or dead after few months.
this is typical china.
they are good at copying hollywood dvd and make pirate cd, but even their cell phones explode and highrise buildings collapse without an earthquake. even if they copy high speed train you know the chinese can never be like German or Japanese people.
@crazygamble the executive of chinese rail operator said that they just copied Japanese and German trains and took out the safety mechanisms. Japanese and German trains can go faster if you disregard life/safety/economy/sound pollution/comfort.
not 1 death on Japanese high speed train service since it started operation 40-50 years ago.
China has 200 people dead or injured already after few months.
@muratake123 486 is the fastest on a commercially operational track. it is the infrastructure that make the speed possible, it is the main reason why UK and US cannot just buy TGV and run them on their tracks. this is news not because it is a speed record, but because this is the first time such speed has been commercialized.
@muratake123 You should do your homework before you post crap online. First of all TGV is after the Pendolino from Italy just crap. The only pioneers in train engeneering are the Germans SIEMENS. The CRH was built in co-op with SIEMENS and the infrastructure was build by chinese, german and swiss engeneers who got far more experience than anyone else! The Chinese tracks are built by the highest EU standards and there has to be a MAJOR earthquake to let these trains "jump off the track"...
@Thegus0 Its not a disaster, happened to the pendolino, ICE, TGV as well in the beginning phase. It should not happen but it does happen. However, once the beginning phase is done, these trains will be as secure as the one here in Europe. I am confident in Chinas program, its a huge and challenging effort and China does an astonishing job so far in co-op with Siemens. They learn fast and Siemens is the leading company in that busieness.
@sinceritus Not a single American want to spend 8 hours in the sweat shop laboring. So you just print out the green paper and import everything from China, Japan, Korea, Mexico where people are willing to work hard for a living. But the truth is that only manufacturing can create wealth.Making money is different from creating wealth. For example, Geico insurance is making great money, Las Vegas's Casino is making great money, the car dealers business in USA is making great money,
@sinceritus USA is the world's greatest country today. But it got a big problem: investing most of its resources into developing superior military power and neglect civil economic development and technology. Manufacturing is now disappearing in US, not because that you can't build it, but you are not willing to. It is of course much more comfortable to sit before a computer, wearing suits, in the air-conditioned office, and click the keyboard to do the work.
It doesn't matter how fast these trains go, it won't take long before the Chinese start slowing down their trains as the system starts to degenerate from the daily pounding. Make no mistake about it, even the Chinese "miracle economy" can't escape the damaging effects of kinetic energy. Read your physics books. This is why maglev is the lower cost and higher speed option at these speeds. See namti dot org for more about this subject.
alright so you mean to say a old locomotive train and a modern day bullet train are the same inventions even thought the bullet train has a total better technology and science. everything about a bullet train and locomotive is different, but you say they are still the same inventions? does that make any sense....? a train with totally advance technology is a new invention. anyway what has the west invented recently???
Germany, france, Japan had the high speed train LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG b4 China ever did. US invented and other countries redevelop and took it to the next level.U know ur wrong which is why u refused to reply my post. Idk, take a look at apple, or the new wave of tablets, or what microsoft is doing. u cant give me something that china invented, which is why u had to reverse the question.
@chrish767 Of course, USA is the most inventive country in the world today,but not "the west" like you said. And now USA is going to import China's High Speed Train Technology to build their high speed train network, which means that China is better than USA at least in the field of train technology. Otherwise, why can't USA invent its own technology? By the way, since when has Singarpore become "inventive"? Being part of west does not automatically make your country to become "inventive".
@chrish767 And I am now using TD-SCDMA 3G mobile wireless connection service provided by China Mobile to reply you. What is TD-SCDMA? It is 3G format and technolgy standard invented by China, which is one of the only three 3G formats in the world, and the other two are W-CDMA invented by Europe and CDMA2000 invented by USA.
china's innovation is still based on western ideas. nobody is being anti china here but it does have an innovation problem, which holds the key to superpower status
@chrish767 I did not say that you are anti china. And make no mistake, China don't want to be a superpower. We just want to have a better life. Let the American to be the only big brother in the world, which means lots of responsibility as well. And as for the innovation, yes, of course China is not as inventive as USA, which is the country of Thomas Edison, WOW! But China is making great leap forward in the field of innovation today and China will be very inventive during next 10 years too.
@chrish767 And as for the definition of innovation,I certainly don't agree with you.China's innovation of course is also innovation although it is based on some ideas.Every single innovation is based on some common knowledge,for example the modern cars are based on the old style horse-pulling wagon with 4 wheels.Modern car is still a great innovation.It is just like that you can not grow 2 noses and four eyes to be inventive.
Oh please, China's innovation is based on stealing blue prints and ideas from others and calling it their own. I'm as pro china as the next guy from beijing but its obvious that they have problems innovating. This is why many of their young ones continue to go to the us for studies.
@chrish767 Blueprints my ass. You just follow the others to hollowly yell that China is not innovative but could not give any hard evidence. So you are not innovative at all. I always gave you evidence about China's innovation just like the three examples I gave above. So I think that I am much more innovative than you at least.
@chrish767 Innovation spirits means that whenever the others said something, the first reaction for you is that you start to think INDEPENDENTLY if they were saying it right, and what evidence to support their saying, not just follow the others. USA government told the public that there was mass-destructive weapons in Iraq through media and everybody was brain-washed while it turns out to be a big lie. So you have to think INDEPENDENTLY by yourself to be innovative.
US govt claims that iraq had wmds was nothing but a big fat lie. Those who believed the usa at the time were naive period. Those who did not, were smart. Its nothing to do with independence.
alright so you mean to say a old locomotive train and a modern day bullet train are the same inventions even thought the bullet train has a total better technology and science. everything about a bullet train and locomotive is different, but you say they are still the same inventions? does that make any sense....? a train with totally advance technology is a new invention. anyway what has the west invented recently???
how can china steal what wasn't invented? china took something low quality and invented a better product, china invented the fastest train. Chinese is always best at inventing stuff.
Answer: By duplicating blue prints. Low Quality? Which high speed train did China drastically improve? Care to give me a make and model? China invented the fastest line WITH foreign technology. Inventing stuff? The west is the best at inventing stuff since the 50s. From the tv to computers. What asia does is take what is in existence and make it better.
@chrish767 clearly the west was inventing stuff since the 50',s china was going under cultural revolution. you live in the past because now its Asia that is inventing greater technologies. and make something better is inventing something new. if Asia could make a better model why couldn't the west? you want proof just look at the dam video...
ok, fine. pls give me a few examples of the things asia is inventing. making something better is called developing, not inventing. just like u cant reinvent the wheel. thats actually canadian technology, bombardier. thats where asia lacks. it is in terms of innovation.
@chrish767 You have no reason to be proud of your country's creative capability if you are not American. By the way, you seems to be a fan of Apple Iphone or Ipad,but not me. I think Ipone is very posh but not of good help. I spent 600 USD to buy a Eking S515, which is pocket PC with 3G connection running XP. And XpPhone is the world's first mobile phone running XP. both are inventived by China. If you dont know these two gadgets,google it and I believe you will thrown your ipad into the attic.
Screw Japan and Germany, They agreed on tech transfer when going for big chinese contracts.The chinese govt put the money in now they are reaping the rewards. I wish the US would do the same only I know its a failed state.
They agreed on tech transfer but not on duplicating blue prints. Big difference. However, I agree with u ironically. Both companies from japan and germany failed to read the contracts and consider the implications prior to bidding for the contracts.
They agreed on tech transfer but not on duplicating blue prints. Big difference. However, I agree with u ironically. Both companies from japan and germany failed to read the contracts and consider the implications prior to bidding for the contracts.
@SupportForToyota stop ur lie , chinese crh380 train is pure chinese tech and invention and it can run 486kph in commercial , while ur low tech crap japanese' train only can run maximam 300kph, just like ur crap toyato cars without brakes can do the same after hitting a tree.
@22saiyan22 you are still wrong, japan's high speed train tech was stolen from france and germany in late 1950s and early 1960s, for the orginal technolgy of high speed rail , its was invention of france and germany never the japan
@22saiyan22 and china only bought low tech 250 kph japanese train set from japan on paying the all the patents and tech for only the train set , but not the railing and bridging technology and communation& control techonlogy which are purely chinese technology developed by her own ,
@22saiyan22 you can not even say japanse " taught" chinese technology so china could develop such thing, china only bought some tech from japan the train sets which is only part of high speed train technology, without china's own railing &briding tech, those train set could not even work on high speed
@22saiyan22, and china actually bought many more 250kph trainset from germnay than japan, which means japan's train set technolgy had no much inference from japan,
china's part of initial technolgy for the high speed train was pretty much introduced from germany and was inflenced by germen train not the japanese one which originally also came from germany .
@22saiyan22 and for today's china's crh380 train, its pure chinese tech and invention, japanese' train only can run maximam 300kph,while Crh380 can do 486kph, so japanese's crap is not even worth mention at all ,just like their collapsing economy, japan is a dead country.
In 2011 specialized built Chinese test train CT400 (to be completed this month) is designed/scheduled to reach 600 kph, either in March or September, if design goals are met it will be faster than both Japan's maglev record and TGV record.
The test train is built to test technology for next gen CRH420 trains, running at max service speed of 420 kph.
Remember, heaving a head start will get you the lead for a while, but its the smarter ones that will take the lead in the long run.
Japan's fastest train runs at 300 kph max in service, Chinese trains runs at AVERAGE of 310 kph and max of 350 kph in service. CRH380A has max unmodified test speed of 480 kph, 380B 450 kph, Japan's specially built experimental train 300X only able to reach 443.
Chinese technology is simply more advanced than Japaneses, they might have had the lead 10 years ago and helped China get started, but that's as much history as Britain's steam engines.
@ltmikepowell that is true. Japanese stole German technology all the time. That is well known fact. Every country does so but why single out China and politicize China all the time.
@wikct2 Both Russians and Israelis conducted industrial espionage as well, so why they get the least criticism compare to China, this is what I really don't understand those hypocrites' ignorant mind.
@ltmikepowell you guys are so right, japan is the biggest technology theives and copycat all the time in human history, japnaese is most famous for copying and introducing foreign culture and technology. japanese never had anything of their own all their history,
@ltmikepowell in ancient time, japanase copied and stole everything from china, from language, culture, music, arts, phyloiphy , costume, architecture, science,&technology , literatures, paintings, political system ................ everything u can think of,
@ltmikepowell and in late 19th century, Japanese started to steal everything from Europeans and americans since they were most advanced , again, they stole and copied everything all the time from Europe and U.S , like high speed train from germany.
@ltmikepowell look , this fucking country japan dont even have their own written language but have to use Chinese characters in their writing system and 70% of chinese vocabularies otherwise those Japanese thieves could not even write or talk,
============================= let alone other so called japanese stuff, which are actually all stolen from overseas most from china and germany, japanese never had anything of their own.
@ltmikepowell it is the japan who is biggest ever fucking thief country in world all the time stealing and copying other people's stuff, not russia ,Israel, or any other country in the world, they are not even close to the level what japanese thieves do all the time !
@xinyiquan666 Technology transfer and industrial espionage has played their major role throughout our history ever since mankind started to outwit one another in ancient time. Well, Romans once copied the Carthage ships' design and later built their own powerful navy.
@xinyiquan666 Whoa, carefully there. You may inspired those Japanese nationalists freaks to instigate their very own Cultural Revolution (sorry to say this) in Japan.
@xinyiquan666 Well, in World War 2 they did copy some European technology for their weapon system. Not to forget the Imperial Japanese Navy which was once modeled after Royal Navy.
@22saiyan22 just shut the fuck up. Japanese newest bullet train's maximum speed can't even reach 320km/h,which usually runs at 300km/H. while chinese one can run at almost 500km/h. Not till japanese or european can manufacure bullet train with speed higher than 350km/h, then just shut your little grape sour jealousy pussy up!
@22saiyan22 Your this comment is really stupid. How did China steal Japanese technology? Japanese high-speed train is much slower than China's one and you say the better country stole the worse country's technology? What kind of logic it is? China's high speed train has 900 patents in China and foreign and is based on China's massive inventive work.
@crazygamble okok. i dont really know bout the situation so i might b wrong.
but i acknowledge japan was the one who taught the technology about bullet trains to china b4 china could develop such things. Now, however, i agree that china has dont a great job.
@crazygamble Yes, and Japan also stole technology from UK because train was invented by british. Toyota also stole technology from Ford because car was invented by Ford. Sony also stole technology from Edison because Edison invented TV. LOL
@SupportForToyota stop ur bullshit, chinese crh380 train is pure chinese tech and invention of china and it can run 486kph in commercial , while ur low tech crap japanese' train only can run maximam 300kph, just like ur crap toyato cars without brakes can do the same after hitting a tree.
It is still very hard for some people to admit that China has the fastest commercially used train. I don't think people should debate on this but let fact speak louder than words.
@TheLukeaalbers French TGV test train is just a special modified train for experiment, not for commercial use. That TGV test train only have 5 cars, while this Chinese train has 16 cars, you can see the difference. If the French just put the two motor cars in one train, which means there will be no cars for passengers, I am sure it can reach 700 km/h. By 2020, China will have the 1000 km/h trains, so just wait.
The franch 574.8km/h is only experimental. They reduced the load, built the tracks and wheels( they can only be used once)., even made a slope to speed it up fir the record.
But the record China just made is on its commercial railway, so it's operational. In the future(likely 2011) the same train will carry passengers and travel on the same railway.
@TheLukeaalbers Now you know, the speed achieved in the lab is very different from the speed Chinese train has achieved in the commercial use powering more cars and carrying passengers. The truth is that this Chinese train has already achieved much higher speed during the lab experiments. It is commercial use SPEED we are discussing about here. You will understand this even you think with your ass.
@TheLukeaalbers What stupid your claim that French has the fastest train. The French has only the test version that has only two sections and Chinese one is the commercial version for regular uses. German and Japan also had test version train that had never put in commercial use. You can keep your stupid claim but the fact is not going to lie.
@wikct2, countries like Japan certainly won't be able to use the super fast train in commercial service due to its tiny size. The train would run out of track and dive into sea in a matter of seconds.
@TheLukeaalbers Chinese did not think they are best but in fact you are the best at least for the high-speed train. Ok the French had a fastest speed for a test version of the high-speed train which cannot and should not be considered as fastest speed in commercial use. The train is much shorter and rather simplied train. Please update you knowledge before you rudeness bashing to others.
@TheLukeaalbers, as everyone has educated you, the number French had is different from what China had. However, the French number won't be able to hold very long either. China has said they will try to break 600km/h next year.
lol its trisha tokanawa
meesondj01 1 month ago
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@KalEl600rr Please, have you ever been to China? I have, and I was in Beijng and still I saw people begging for money everyday. China has a lot of poor people, a lot. The standard in China is very low compared to most European countrys and north America. China will soon have a BMP as high as USA BUT they have three times as many people. So BMP per capita is not that impressive. One day western countrys will move their production to countrys like Romania, Albania etc. Then what?
JavaDeHutt 2 months ago
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JavaDeHutt 2 months ago
One day china will move away from the dollar. And unlike other weak countries, the US cant do anything about it militarily and sure as hell not economically.
China owns the US.
KalEl600rr 2 months ago
@KalEl600rr They would never do that because north america feeds their economy.
triden55 1 month ago
Well, Shinkansen is safer... no accident in 60 years!
hkitagjpn 3 months ago
how ironic that the majority of the chinese people are starving like fuck whilst the commies are making stupid trains
Gichnni 4 months ago
@Gichnni
Have you been to China? They don't build trains to starve people. They build trains to move people around. Trains are more affordable and they can move more people than airplanes. You why know China is so poor, it because of foreign invasion in the 19th and 20th century. The commies are the one that revive their economy to what they are now today. Rank the 300th poorest country 30 years ago to number 2 economy in 2011? Commie what???
tatstarsdotcom 2 months ago
pause at 0:10 and she says sound shit
aj2hip299191 5 months ago
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gibb1991 5 months ago
Now someone just put a penny on that rail...
SplatterMW2 6 months ago
junk
atmark666 7 months ago
Chinese copies Japanese and German technology and remove the safety mechanisms and calls it "original" and "fastest"
now 200 people injured or dead after few months.
this is typical china.
they are good at copying hollywood dvd and make pirate cd, but even their cell phones explode and highrise buildings collapse without an earthquake. even if they copy high speed train you know the chinese can never be like German or Japanese people.
Thegus0 7 months ago
@crazygamble the executive of chinese rail operator said that they just copied Japanese and German trains and took out the safety mechanisms. Japanese and German trains can go faster if you disregard life/safety/economy/sound pollution/comfort.
not 1 death on Japanese high speed train service since it started operation 40-50 years ago.
China has 200 people dead or injured already after few months.
Thegus0 7 months ago
@crazygamble Are you SURE it is 481km/h? I saw the speedometer reading of "300". Maybe that was 300km/h, not mph.
The fastest train I know of is the 20 mile-long (33km) Maglev in Shanghai (airport-city center) at about 270mph (430km/h)
Sexycosy 8 months ago
@Sexycosy I think the speed on these trains is limited at 380km/h, not 486km/h (not YET, but in a few short years :-)...
Sexycosy 8 months ago
Chinese high speed train copy from SHINKANSEN(JAPAN) and ICE(German).
hn36586 8 months ago
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@hn36586 you copied your dad's stupid brain
strongestass 8 months ago
this is why obama mentioned China 3rd times when he took a speech...
Mreleezy 10 months ago
Eh. That's slow. I walked to my mailbox and I went faster than this.
ShrikeArghast 10 months ago
Not impressive at all.
486.1km/h?The world record? comparing with TGV and they claim that they are the top of the world.
Other nation did not engaged in this fastest speed record game. That's all.
I just wonder when Chinese handle California high speed rail.
When catastrophic earthquake hit the are,it will jump off the track .
muratake123 10 months ago
@muratake123 TGV is a test rn train, Chinese new train is a commercial operation train, they are all diffrent story.
Hope u are sofiscate to know the diffrence !!
fdoca 10 months ago
@muratake123 read the title in commercial use ,TGV not in commercial use
MrMarcocaofanhua 9 months ago
@muratake123 486.1 km/h is the fastest speed of non-modified commercial train. TGV's record is made by specially modified train.
sparkwang195 9 months ago
@muratake123 486 is the fastest on a commercially operational track. it is the infrastructure that make the speed possible, it is the main reason why UK and US cannot just buy TGV and run them on their tracks. this is news not because it is a speed record, but because this is the first time such speed has been commercialized.
akinkhoo 9 months ago
@muratake123 You should do your homework before you post crap online. First of all TGV is after the Pendolino from Italy just crap. The only pioneers in train engeneering are the Germans SIEMENS. The CRH was built in co-op with SIEMENS and the infrastructure was build by chinese, german and swiss engeneers who got far more experience than anyone else! The Chinese tracks are built by the highest EU standards and there has to be a MAJOR earthquake to let these trains "jump off the track"...
KimIsIll 8 months ago
@KimIsIll the train just jumped off the track without an earthquake.
Thegus0 7 months ago
@Thegus0 Its not a disaster, happened to the pendolino, ICE, TGV as well in the beginning phase. It should not happen but it does happen. However, once the beginning phase is done, these trains will be as secure as the one here in Europe. I am confident in Chinas program, its a huge and challenging effort and China does an astonishing job so far in co-op with Siemens. They learn fast and Siemens is the leading company in that busieness.
KimIsIll 7 months ago 2
@sinceritus Not a single American want to spend 8 hours in the sweat shop laboring. So you just print out the green paper and import everything from China, Japan, Korea, Mexico where people are willing to work hard for a living. But the truth is that only manufacturing can create wealth.Making money is different from creating wealth. For example, Geico insurance is making great money, Las Vegas's Casino is making great money, the car dealers business in USA is making great money,
crazygamble 10 months ago
@sinceritus USA is the world's greatest country today. But it got a big problem: investing most of its resources into developing superior military power and neglect civil economic development and technology. Manufacturing is now disappearing in US, not because that you can't build it, but you are not willing to. It is of course much more comfortable to sit before a computer, wearing suits, in the air-conditioned office, and click the keyboard to do the work.
crazygamble 10 months ago
Shishoshoshahahahgo
1mikosh 1 year ago
@1mikosh lmao
WeepBeforeYouSleep 11 months ago
It doesn't matter how fast these trains go, it won't take long before the Chinese start slowing down their trains as the system starts to degenerate from the daily pounding. Make no mistake about it, even the Chinese "miracle economy" can't escape the damaging effects of kinetic energy. Read your physics books. This is why maglev is the lower cost and higher speed option at these speeds. See namti dot org for more about this subject.
qued2U 1 year ago
Chinese should stop considering themselves as very small people in big country.
sucH advancement of mentality would choodge the world into better basics.
fuck ,,free minded'' americans and arrogant europeans
Afjk1984 1 year ago
you dont wanna get ran over with that speed 0_0
10Kingboy10 1 year ago
alright so you mean to say a old locomotive train and a modern day bullet train are the same inventions even thought the bullet train has a total better technology and science. everything about a bullet train and locomotive is different, but you say they are still the same inventions? does that make any sense....? a train with totally advance technology is a new invention. anyway what has the west invented recently???
azngen1233 1 year ago
@azngen1233
Germany, france, Japan had the high speed train LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG b4 China ever did. US invented and other countries redevelop and took it to the next level.U know ur wrong which is why u refused to reply my post. Idk, take a look at apple, or the new wave of tablets, or what microsoft is doing. u cant give me something that china invented, which is why u had to reverse the question.
chrish767 1 year ago
@chrish767 Of course, USA is the most inventive country in the world today,but not "the west" like you said. And now USA is going to import China's High Speed Train Technology to build their high speed train network, which means that China is better than USA at least in the field of train technology. Otherwise, why can't USA invent its own technology? By the way, since when has Singarpore become "inventive"? Being part of west does not automatically make your country to become "inventive".
crazygamble 1 year ago
@chrish767 And I am now using TD-SCDMA 3G mobile wireless connection service provided by China Mobile to reply you. What is TD-SCDMA? It is 3G format and technolgy standard invented by China, which is one of the only three 3G formats in the world, and the other two are W-CDMA invented by Europe and CDMA2000 invented by USA.
crazygamble 1 year ago
@crazygamble
china's innovation is still based on western ideas. nobody is being anti china here but it does have an innovation problem, which holds the key to superpower status
chrish767 1 year ago
@chrish767 I did not say that you are anti china. And make no mistake, China don't want to be a superpower. We just want to have a better life. Let the American to be the only big brother in the world, which means lots of responsibility as well. And as for the innovation, yes, of course China is not as inventive as USA, which is the country of Thomas Edison, WOW! But China is making great leap forward in the field of innovation today and China will be very inventive during next 10 years too.
crazygamble 11 months ago
@chrish767 And as for the definition of innovation,I certainly don't agree with you.China's innovation of course is also innovation although it is based on some ideas.Every single innovation is based on some common knowledge,for example the modern cars are based on the old style horse-pulling wagon with 4 wheels.Modern car is still a great innovation.It is just like that you can not grow 2 noses and four eyes to be inventive.
crazygamble 11 months ago
@crazygamble
Oh please, China's innovation is based on stealing blue prints and ideas from others and calling it their own. I'm as pro china as the next guy from beijing but its obvious that they have problems innovating. This is why many of their young ones continue to go to the us for studies.
chrish767 11 months ago
@chrish767 Blueprints my ass. You just follow the others to hollowly yell that China is not innovative but could not give any hard evidence. So you are not innovative at all. I always gave you evidence about China's innovation just like the three examples I gave above. So I think that I am much more innovative than you at least.
crazygamble 10 months ago
@chrish767 Innovation spirits means that whenever the others said something, the first reaction for you is that you start to think INDEPENDENTLY if they were saying it right, and what evidence to support their saying, not just follow the others. USA government told the public that there was mass-destructive weapons in Iraq through media and everybody was brain-washed while it turns out to be a big lie. So you have to think INDEPENDENTLY by yourself to be innovative.
crazygamble 10 months ago
@crazygamble
US govt claims that iraq had wmds was nothing but a big fat lie. Those who believed the usa at the time were naive period. Those who did not, were smart. Its nothing to do with independence.
chrish767 10 months ago
@azngen1233
oh, by the way, i like how china uses the same blue lines as japan on its high speed rail, only thinner and a slightly lighter shape of blue.
chrish767 1 year ago
alright so you mean to say a old locomotive train and a modern day bullet train are the same inventions even thought the bullet train has a total better technology and science. everything about a bullet train and locomotive is different, but you say they are still the same inventions? does that make any sense....? a train with totally advance technology is a new invention. anyway what has the west invented recently???
azngen1233 1 year ago
how can china steal what wasn't invented? china took something low quality and invented a better product, china invented the fastest train. Chinese is always best at inventing stuff.
azngen1233 1 year ago
@azngen1233
how can china steal what wasn't invented?
Answer: By duplicating blue prints. Low Quality? Which high speed train did China drastically improve? Care to give me a make and model? China invented the fastest line WITH foreign technology. Inventing stuff? The west is the best at inventing stuff since the 50s. From the tv to computers. What asia does is take what is in existence and make it better.
chrish767 1 year ago
@chrish767 clearly the west was inventing stuff since the 50',s china was going under cultural revolution. you live in the past because now its Asia that is inventing greater technologies. and make something better is inventing something new. if Asia could make a better model why couldn't the west? you want proof just look at the dam video...
azngen1233 1 year ago
@azngen1233
ok, fine. pls give me a few examples of the things asia is inventing. making something better is called developing, not inventing. just like u cant reinvent the wheel. thats actually canadian technology, bombardier. thats where asia lacks. it is in terms of innovation.
chrish767 1 year ago
@chrish767 You have no reason to be proud of your country's creative capability if you are not American. By the way, you seems to be a fan of Apple Iphone or Ipad,but not me. I think Ipone is very posh but not of good help. I spent 600 USD to buy a Eking S515, which is pocket PC with 3G connection running XP. And XpPhone is the world's first mobile phone running XP. both are inventived by China. If you dont know these two gadgets,google it and I believe you will thrown your ipad into the attic.
crazygamble 1 year ago
Why are all these coments so long
SUPERSTARTekkenMan 1 year ago
Screw Japan and Germany, They agreed on tech transfer when going for big chinese contracts.The chinese govt put the money in now they are reaping the rewards. I wish the US would do the same only I know its a failed state.
evantis121 1 year ago
@evantis121
They agreed on tech transfer but not on duplicating blue prints. Big difference. However, I agree with u ironically. Both companies from japan and germany failed to read the contracts and consider the implications prior to bidding for the contracts.
chrish767 1 year ago
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@evantis121
They agreed on tech transfer but not on duplicating blue prints. Big difference. However, I agree with u ironically. Both companies from japan and germany failed to read the contracts and consider the implications prior to bidding for the contracts.
chrish767 1 year ago
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@SupportForToyota stop ur lie , chinese crh380 train is pure chinese tech and invention and it can run 486kph in commercial , while ur low tech crap japanese' train only can run maximam 300kph, just like ur crap toyato cars without brakes can do the same after hitting a tree.
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 you are still wrong, japan's high speed train tech was stolen from france and germany in late 1950s and early 1960s, for the orginal technolgy of high speed rail , its was invention of france and germany never the japan
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 and china only bought low tech 250 kph japanese train set from japan on paying the all the patents and tech for only the train set , but not the railing and bridging technology and communation& control techonlogy which are purely chinese technology developed by her own ,
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 you can not even say japanse " taught" chinese technology so china could develop such thing, china only bought some tech from japan the train sets which is only part of high speed train technology, without china's own railing &briding tech, those train set could not even work on high speed
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@22saiyan22, and china actually bought many more 250kph trainset from germnay than japan, which means japan's train set technolgy had no much inference from japan,
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china's part of initial technolgy for the high speed train was pretty much introduced from germany and was inflenced by germen train not the japanese one which originally also came from germany .
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 and for today's china's crh380 train, its pure chinese tech and invention, japanese' train only can run maximam 300kph,while Crh380 can do 486kph, so japanese's crap is not even worth mention at all ,just like their collapsing economy, japan is a dead country.
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
In 2011 specialized built Chinese test train CT400 (to be completed this month) is designed/scheduled to reach 600 kph, either in March or September, if design goals are met it will be faster than both Japan's maglev record and TGV record.
The test train is built to test technology for next gen CRH420 trains, running at max service speed of 420 kph.
Remember, heaving a head start will get you the lead for a while, but its the smarter ones that will take the lead in the long run.
dagnemrth 1 year ago
Japan's fastest train runs at 300 kph max in service, Chinese trains runs at AVERAGE of 310 kph and max of 350 kph in service. CRH380A has max unmodified test speed of 480 kph, 380B 450 kph, Japan's specially built experimental train 300X only able to reach 443.
Chinese technology is simply more advanced than Japaneses, they might have had the lead 10 years ago and helped China get started, but that's as much history as Britain's steam engines.
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22saiyan22 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 Well, technology transfer and industrial espionage works wonder sometimes.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@ltmikepowell that is true. Japanese stole German technology all the time. That is well known fact. Every country does so but why single out China and politicize China all the time.
wikct2 1 year ago
@wikct2 Both Russians and Israelis conducted industrial espionage as well, so why they get the least criticism compare to China, this is what I really don't understand those hypocrites' ignorant mind.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@ltmikepowell you guys are so right, japan is the biggest technology theives and copycat all the time in human history, japnaese is most famous for copying and introducing foreign culture and technology. japanese never had anything of their own all their history,
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@ltmikepowell in ancient time, japanase copied and stole everything from china, from language, culture, music, arts, phyloiphy , costume, architecture, science,&technology , literatures, paintings, political system ................ everything u can think of,
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@ltmikepowell and in late 19th century, Japanese started to steal everything from Europeans and americans since they were most advanced , again, they stole and copied everything all the time from Europe and U.S , like high speed train from germany.
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@ltmikepowell look , this fucking country japan dont even have their own written language but have to use Chinese characters in their writing system and 70% of chinese vocabularies otherwise those Japanese thieves could not even write or talk,
============================= let alone other so called japanese stuff, which are actually all stolen from overseas most from china and germany, japanese never had anything of their own.
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@ltmikepowell it is the japan who is biggest ever fucking thief country in world all the time stealing and copying other people's stuff, not russia ,Israel, or any other country in the world, they are not even close to the level what japanese thieves do all the time !
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@xinyiquan666 Aw, the Russians and Jews just start "loving" you already. And "hate" me if they want to.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@xinyiquan666 Technology transfer and industrial espionage has played their major role throughout our history ever since mankind started to outwit one another in ancient time. Well, Romans once copied the Carthage ships' design and later built their own powerful navy.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@xinyiquan666 Whoa, carefully there. You may inspired those Japanese nationalists freaks to instigate their very own Cultural Revolution (sorry to say this) in Japan.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@xinyiquan666 Let see, am I thinking of ancient Kyoto city plan, Xu Fu's (a Qin's officer) landing and Karate's origin?
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@xinyiquan666 Well, in World War 2 they did copy some European technology for their weapon system. Not to forget the Imperial Japanese Navy which was once modeled after Royal Navy.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 just shut the fuck up. Japanese newest bullet train's maximum speed can't even reach 320km/h,which usually runs at 300km/H. while chinese one can run at almost 500km/h. Not till japanese or european can manufacure bullet train with speed higher than 350km/h, then just shut your little grape sour jealousy pussy up!
IwantaYBaccount 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 r u talkking about Japan stole German technology?
wikct2 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 Your this comment is really stupid. How did China steal Japanese technology? Japanese high-speed train is much slower than China's one and you say the better country stole the worse country's technology? What kind of logic it is? China's high speed train has 900 patents in China and foreign and is based on China's massive inventive work.
crazygamble 1 year ago 4
@crazygamble okok. i dont really know bout the situation so i might b wrong.
but i acknowledge japan was the one who taught the technology about bullet trains to china b4 china could develop such things. Now, however, i agree that china has dont a great job.
22saiyan22 1 year ago
@crazygamble Yes, and Japan also stole technology from UK because train was invented by british. Toyota also stole technology from Ford because car was invented by Ford. Sony also stole technology from Edison because Edison invented TV. LOL
jwcfust 1 year ago
@crazygamble exactly. it was stolen by Germany
AlaizterURMOM 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 check your ass! the chinese have even stolen your virginity.
Maersk1668 1 year ago
@22saiyan22 You are right, the technology is mostly Japanese and European, sad but it is truth.
SupportForToyota 1 year ago
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@SupportForToyota stop ur bullshit, chinese crh380 train is pure chinese tech and invention of china and it can run 486kph in commercial , while ur low tech crap japanese' train only can run maximam 300kph, just like ur crap toyato cars without brakes can do the same after hitting a tree.
xinyiquan666 1 year ago
@22saiyan22
bs.
Monttai 1 year ago
A little off the topic, but I hope YouTube allows users to provide and edit subtitles to video clips.
fankela 1 year ago
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Bombardier Zefiro 380? It is Chinese version of it.
Bombardier Sifang Wins Contract to Build 80 Very High Speed Trains for China
Leading-edge BOMBARDIER ZEFIRO technology to feature maximum operating speeds of 380 kph
justanotherfreak2008 1 year ago
It is still very hard for some people to admit that China has the fastest commercially used train. I don't think people should debate on this but let fact speak louder than words.
wikct2 1 year ago
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TheLukeaalbers 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers French TGV test train is just a special modified train for experiment, not for commercial use. That TGV test train only have 5 cars, while this Chinese train has 16 cars, you can see the difference. If the French just put the two motor cars in one train, which means there will be no cars for passengers, I am sure it can reach 700 km/h. By 2020, China will have the 1000 km/h trains, so just wait.
Junkiang 1 year ago 2
@TheLukeaalbers And the fasted train pure test-oriented speed is not French 574.8, but is Japanese maglev 581.
Junkiang 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers
You made a mistake.
486.1km/h is the new record.
The franch 574.8km/h is only experimental. They reduced the load, built the tracks and wheels( they can only be used once)., even made a slope to speed it up fir the record.
But the record China just made is on its commercial railway, so it's operational. In the future(likely 2011) the same train will carry passengers and travel on the same railway.
BTW the speed will be limited at 380km/h.
Serphirose 1 year ago 22
@TheLukeaalbers
It's you the stupid guy, ah...ignorant.
Ericsqxu 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers Now you know, the speed achieved in the lab is very different from the speed Chinese train has achieved in the commercial use powering more cars and carrying passengers. The truth is that this Chinese train has already achieved much higher speed during the lab experiments. It is commercial use SPEED we are discussing about here. You will understand this even you think with your ass.
crazygamble 1 year ago 27
@TheLukeaalbers yeah but they cant be used in reality unlike this one u see. that sounds more stupid to me. may be even more stupid than a dutch
cowrunkey 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers What stupid your claim that French has the fastest train. The French has only the test version that has only two sections and Chinese one is the commercial version for regular uses. German and Japan also had test version train that had never put in commercial use. You can keep your stupid claim but the fact is not going to lie.
wikct2 1 year ago 2
@wikct2, countries like Japan certainly won't be able to use the super fast train in commercial service due to its tiny size. The train would run out of track and dive into sea in a matter of seconds.
enzhus 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers
what a stupid ass u are.
schonleer 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers Chinese did not think they are best but in fact you are the best at least for the high-speed train. Ok the French had a fastest speed for a test version of the high-speed train which cannot and should not be considered as fastest speed in commercial use. The train is much shorter and rather simplied train. Please update you knowledge before you rudeness bashing to others.
wikct2 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers And with specially tuned up train set? Fair play buddy, fair play.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@TheLukeaalbers, as everyone has educated you, the number French had is different from what China had. However, the French number won't be able to hold very long either. China has said they will try to break 600km/h next year.
enzhus 1 year ago