Alyssa's only defence would be diminished mental capacity but I doubt if the jury will buy that and I don't feel that they should. She should serve at least thirty or more years in prison if not life. Society can do without people like her.
its always the ones that "seem like a normal guy". :( when my teacher told us about this story i just couldnt believe it. I hope justice is served accordingly
It's just someone who knew no limits and did the biggest mistake she could possibly do in her life.
Real disturbed people aren't like her. Shes pretty normal, you can see her jailed picture and shes not "enjoying" anything from what said to be "Felt like".
In my opnion : She should be punished and jailed, but shes not any psycho. Real psychopats don't ever go to jail =D
@hayleywilliams2010 a mistake? this isn't as small as accidentally smashing a window. this is plotting for a week and killing a child out of curiosity! 15 is old enough to know that killing is a horrific thing to do.
she'll get help all right. years of help in jail. it'll give her time to think about what she did. years of it.
everyone here is right. no one understands her. no one could ever understand why you would just kill a 9 year old girl for no reason other than to just have the experience. Your right, i dont understand that at all.
just because she did something wicked evil and wrong doesnt mean she just needs "meds" she needs a jail cell. i'm sure the inmates will take care of her there.
NexCarnifex- you are a real worry! no, I have never wondered what its like to kill someone,if you think its normal to feel like that,then you need to get some help! You have a problem and I recommend that you see someone about it quickly before you act upon it. Look up SOCIOPATH.I am very serious!!
@professormoron : why shouldn't she? uhm, because she isn't an adult!
united states law defines "adult" as over the age of 18. ms. bustamante is 16, 15 at the time of her crime. she is a minor, and it is a travesty of justice that she is being tried as an adult. i'm not saying her crime doesn't warrant serious punishment - but it's a little girl they're trying at the end of the day, and they need to consider other avenues than simply sticking her in a pile of death row inmates.
Haven't any of you people ever wanted to know what it feels like to kill someone? I know I have! I don't blame her for just being a little bit curious, everyone is, she's just like me and you, a curious person. Maybe I'll just go kill someone one day to see how it feels, I'm sure everyone has at some point in there lives.
@NexCarnifex -no,I have never in my life wanted to know what it feels like to kill someone- seriously,you need to go and talk to someone about what you just said-you are a worry!!
@NexCarnifex-you are a real worry!! no,i have never thought that way-if you think it is normal to feel like that,then you need to get some help! i am really serious here.you have a problem and i recommend that you see someone about it quickly before you act upon it.
He considers her an adult because the crime was especially hienous. That is B.S. I think she should be punished severlly, but how can the crime make you an adult? Just one more lophole in the system.
@rebelnomo because if they merely put her in a juvenile detention facility she'd 100% be let out at age 21 even if she MURDERED someone, and fact here is more than 600 children have escaped their detention facility lmao
@MWguitarist Yea, that would be screwed-up. If she did that to my daughter or sister, or even neighbor, I would've wanted to kill her myself. But I still think the laws are screwed-up. If you are 18 and screw a 15yo., you are a pedophile. But if you are 15 and kill someone, then you are considered an adult. Either a 15yo. is an adult or they are not. It all depends on the circumstance's not age, that is the only issue I have with it. She should definately pay with her life in any case.
What this girl did makes me sick. It doesnt matter if she was depressed, it doesnt matter what bad has happened to her in her life, it does not justify the murder of an innocent person. Especially if it's first degree murder. Everyone has bad things happen to them, this girl is fucked up and i hope she gets what she deserves. What a dumb fucking bitch.
WHY THE HELL IS SHE TRIED AS AN ADULT! BUT SHE CANT DRIVE A CAR AS AN ADULT SHE CAN BUY LIQOUR AS AN ADULT WHY DNT THEY JUS LET KIDS DO EVERYTHING AS ADULT! THEYRE NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO DRIVE A CAR BUT RESPONSIBLE FOR A MURDER FUCK SOCIETY!
@xxxglitterglamxxx so why do i have to be 18 years old to drive a fuckin car? anyway i smoke weed get drunk all that shit n im 14 idgaf wat society has to say bcuz if i kill someone im going to be tried as an adult! im going to do everything adults to im a fuckin adult then fuckin stupid society
its very easy for sociopaths to subdue their true natures. she isnt a child. children dont kill. she is a rogue animal, she broke social rules that not even a wolf would break. with sociopaths, there is no building of a problem, becuase to them there is no problem. killing is like crushing a bug to them. sociopaths are very very scary, armed with anti-depressants they are even scarier
the scariest part is that in the guise of a child, she couldve done anything. and who knows if she wouldve had the courage to strike without the use of those pills. terrible sitch, especially for the 9 yr old, why wont we learn that even though someone looks like a kid, odd behavior shouldnt be shrugged off. im sure they saw her acting out and thought it was a 'teenage phase'. scary.
Also she killed someone to know what it feels like, seems to me that she was a normal kid who had an obsession with goodfellas or a similar mob film and was wandering whta its like. Fuck her for being so stupid. Now a little girl is dead, and if i was the father I would brutally and slowly murder her
i'll tell u why she did it because of those stupid anti depressants she was on that makes people murderers and suicidal. of course you dont hear from the media that she was on prozac. All the time i hear os shooting from people warped by prozac the phatmaceutical companies should be in jail
I've met a prison minister who has met with murderers and said each one has eventually recieved a forgiveness letter from their victim's family. In years to come I hope she recieves forgiveness. I don't blame the Olten family if they never decide on that, because that would be an extremely difficult thing to do, but if they do that, I will certainly take my hat off to them. Even if she is forgiven she still needs to spend life in prison.
@clintonearlwalker there is a difference in abusing street drugs and taking prescribed medications. As far as the Manson gang they chose to abuse street drugs and the happy little family is in prison where they should be.
Why? I know exactly why. Mind altering drugs, in this case Prozac. Look at the numbers of other kids that do these things while taking mind altering drugs.
I remember a famous case from 1969, involving females, knives, mind altering drugs, and murder.
Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkle, Leslie Van Houton, and others were taking mind altering drugs prescribed by "Dr Manson".
People seem so shocked when this happens, been happening for years and the cause is very simple.
i don't want to see anyone else die so im not going to come on here and say i want alyssa dead. but she should definetly be put away for life because she needs a looooong time to think about what she did. fortunately for her, she'll have a long time to choose between good and evil.
what i think is people need to stop judgng "emo b****" "psyhco killer" "emo gone wild" she had NO excuss for killing that girl and i hope she gets punished....but i mean come on if u want to see her die or suffer and how old r u? ok its cruel for her to watch a 9 year old suffer but its ok for 20-30 year olds to watch a 15 year old suffer?? granit she did KILL someone still....hasnt everyone made a mistake....her was...really bad...but still u know right from wrong and still do bad stuff....
the scary thing is that my friends kids rode the bus with alyssa and elizabeth i was looking at another video and people were calling alyssa awesome...me personally i dont think that that person would think that if she would of killed someone in there fam....
I wish all these bleeding heart Alyssa sympathizers,could see the crime photos of ELIZABETH, after they exhumed her out of the grave Alyssa dug for her! I wonder,would they still think Alyssa deserves compassion,help and forgiveness,that she obviosly,didn't think Elizabeth deserved?There will always be an entourage of idiots,to make homilies or excuses for anyone who commits a crime,no matter how heinous it is!
THANK YOU! Iv'e heard people saying "jesus forgives her!"
"she should be forgiven!"
"free her!"
SHE KILLED A NINE YEAR OLD FOR NO REASON!!!!
why can't people see how horrible that is!? does anyone care Elizebeth olten will never get to grow up? Marry? Have children of her own? All because Alyssa decided to kill! and what about her family!? i feel bad for them! losing there child and everyone taking the killers side! I say alyssa needs therapy and and deserves what she gets for her crime!
@ruriOsan Your welcome,and thank you.I'm just fed up with the victims being shoved aside and pity given to the criminals!Alyssa knew what she was going to do was wrong.We were all 15 once.We all knew what death was and that it was wrong to kill.Sure,she was under psycological care and on antidepressants;she was also on illegal drugs and alcohol.That is still no excuse!She was an honor roll student,who attended school everyday,she was well in control of her actions and mental faculties.
I wrote that jesus will forgive her, and yes he will, no matter how great the sin, JESUS always forgives. Because if you can't forgive Alyssa, then there will be noone to forgive you when you ask for it. How would you like to be hated, spit on,beat up in the eyes of public opinion, then chewed up and spit out again. Thats what forgiveness is for. I know you go to church on sunday, can't you find it in your heart to forgive her? No matter how evil the deed?
Yes, i still would be compassionate toward alyssa,even after seeing the horror of what she did. I'm not going to turn around from supporting her and then HATE HER WITH ALL MY HEART! that would make me just as evil as her, maybe even far worse. If Alyssa ask god to forgive her, then she is forgiven. Hate not the sinner,only the sin,which thou commits!
You're not god; That's for the lord and alyssa to decide. She choose the path of evil, but just like how we all get lost finding our way, there's still hope for her to turn back and take the right path. Its never too late to have a change of heart.
Numbers 35:31 (King James Version) 31Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.
The bible is full of different opinions; is this from the new testment? Because the old testment is the true book to follow. That statement you put implys just the oppsite of jesus teaching of forgiveness of sin. Yes, lock up and throw away the key, but don't hate the sinner because of the sin.
The Bible is full of great testimony and basic instructions for believers to follow. The old and new Testaments are very important books to understand and read. Jesus does teach forgiveness but he also teaches us not to be fooled by evil. There is a difference between sinners, which we all are and the lost. The lost ones even God does not forgive but has a special place for them to go.
@TheNopiracer You have to be able to discern between the lost that can be saved and the lost that are evil and will do you harm. There is a difference.
Luke 9 1Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
@TyneRoseMedia Con't from Luke 9 3And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. 4And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. 5And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
@TyneRoseMedia I hate to break it to ya, but when you die it's over. That's it. Better make your life as good as you can, because this is the only one you get.
it seriously makes me sick how the motherfuckin media and america in general gangs up on people that are different and calls them strange, or disturbed and a bunch of other shit. i hate the idea that the gov has so much power over us that they can imprison people... and all the motherfuckers that think theyre superior to her by talkin shit and ganging up on her are pathetic... THINK 4 URSELF dont let society tell u how people should be and dont hate people 4 being different its DISGUISTING
Obviously Alyssa has serious mental problems,but that goes for a lot of ppl on here as well.They say killing a little girl is horrible, then talk about killing Alyssa.
Anyone see the faulty logic here?
2 months ago,no one even HEARD of Alyssa,or Elizabeth Olten either, and now everyone is screaming for blood.
I agree w/ her lawyer about not being able to recieve a fair trial because of media predjudice.The trial is a joke, she's already been tried,convicted,and sentenced in the media.
When I say 'free' I mean not just to let her run free again. I mean sent her to a mental hospital, let her go thru rehab or therapy for a year or two and then based on progress see how she's doing and let her go.
Being charged as an adult and spending life in prison.. That's just cruel. Depression did play a role in this.
I don't see how you think Bustamante spending her life in prison is cruel... she killed a nine year old, that's pretty cruel if you ask me, and very deserving of a lifetime sentence.
I don't see how people see this sane. People would push for death penalty, sadly (for these so-called adults) the law doesn't permit 15 year olds to be killed.
We're not talking about an adult. We're talking about a child who killed a child. Does she REALLY deserve to be let to rot in jail? I thought we were all supposed to give second chances.
What about a second chance for Elizabeth?When Alyssa can give her(Elizabeth) one,then she will deserve one herself!Alyss ,is a child in age only.If she can commit an adult crime,then she needs do adult time!
I guess the chance for Elizabeth is too late. But not to be rude or cruel, (just being technical) she won't care really. She doesn't know.
The family however, needs repairing (As does Alyssa's). I say make the Alyssa's family pay a fee to the family (Not too large not to small) and have Alyssa be let out to get serious mental help and care.
And are you saying only adults can commit adult crimes? Hear about the 7 year old last year who shot his father and his father's friend?
@21ollej It is too late for Elizabeth.Her family needs the one(Alyssa)that did this to be punished,not money!How odious!Alyssa was already receiving serious psycological help,maybe,she could stay with you,if they let her out while she gets more help.People know right from wrong at a very early age...Alyssa feft she was adult enough to deside to MURDER Elizabeth.Why shouldn't she be punished as an adult? Do you kow the detailes of the 7yr. olds case? I would be interested to hear about them.
Doesn't fucking matter. She murdered a nine year old, and she dug the grave a day before. It was extremely premeditated. Depression doesn't justify cold blooded, planned out murder.
Are you volunteering to torture her to death? If you are and your the kind of person that would torture a fifteen year old girl to death could you please turn yourself into the nearest police department or mental facility as someone like you isnt fit for decent society.
well why not?she tourchered that little girl to death. why sholdnt she.and no im not voluntering, i would never do that. Killing is wrong, and its no exuse just because your 15. its even wores that she killed that little girl just because she "wanted to see what it felt like". and just so you know, im not some crazy old weirdo with anger issues, im a teenager. You shouldnt go aruond accusing people of things you arent to sure about yourself.
Hello people. She's a sociopath. She dug a grave for the little girl the day before she killed her. She planned it out. If she does get out of jail, she will do it again. There's something very wrong with her.
You CANNOT blame murder on depression. I used to be extremely depressed, but never did I have a thought of murdering anyone. Having the ability to murder someone means there is something very wrong and twisted with you.
We can blame it on the mental ilness or medicals precriptions and shit..Like many times we do with these cases which is absolute bullshhit. She was a smart girl in class and she certainly knew what she was doing and what she has coming for her now. Stop defending a killer, like she is a victim..The girl that died is a victim and the parents of that girl who will never see there daughter again..think about that and stop being so damn defensive about it.
I hope she wont kill herself ever.. This girl is not worth helping in a mental hospital, she took an innocent life and had pleasure in killing her. She needs life in prison and a life full of agony and pain, she wanted to wonder what it feels like and now she can.
Oh jeez what teen nowadays doesn't suffer from depression. It's all the exercise they're NOT getting. You know what, teens back then didn't have time to contemplate murder because they were out working on their parents' farms or performing other physical labor. Ditch the drugs, get up and move. Exercise is good for you. Today's teens are lazy and sad.. in more ways than one.
oh man, ive watched so many videos on her trying to do a report and...well....what if she lied about killing the little girl and is secretly hiding the person who really did? :O theyre only going on her testimony, what if she was just an aid to the real murderer!? hey...ya never know :P
deepdadeeguy2hot (heeheehee, i feel weird refering to you that way) dont be :) she wasnt ugly at all. its a shame she had to do that, maybe with the right friends at the right time and right place, she couldve been something great.
She told us what was going through her head. She obviously wanted to know what if felt like to be a murderer. And abuse isn't a reason to kill . If anything abuse stands for suicidal thoughts. But it's not a logical reason to kill a girl just to know what it felt like. I think you need to review her case. She is mentally ill, but that's not an excuse for the crime she committed on a innocent child. And yea I am judging the guilty killer. She show no remorse for her actions.
@TheGothicEmo666 .She did not go insane. She plotted this murder . She sat there and knew what she was doing and dug two graves . People care for the innocent life she took, her actions she placed. And my personal opinion. I don't care about her. I hope that she gets the maximum punishment. Nobody wants a individual going around killing people for the hell of it. Her story is that she had a horrible childhood. But there's people who have it worse. The world doesn't revolve around her.
Your sitting here judging from a very objective point of view. Are clearly and logically thinking. THAT GIRL must of had something going on in her head to commit premeditated murder. She wasn't thinking clearly, logically or objectively She was probably in an altered state of mind from being abused ABUSE does things to people I know how it feels to be abused and feel homo/suicidal.
GothicEmo666 ( your name already disregards all credibility to yourself as a human being already) I bet you know how it feels to be "Homo" Being abused is just an excuse for people to pretend to be mentally sick for the one thing they feverishly crave, attention.
So I'm making up depression for attention? You know the stigma that comes along with clinical depression and Zoloft/Ambilify? If anything I'd lie and say I was a famous singer or something. I live in a suburb? Last time I checked I live in a fucking one bedroom apartment with a sick mother. But NOOOOOO I would make up something like that right? Is that what's going on in your head? "Oh this person likes emo clothes/music that means faking depression"
So you can whine and cry on the internet as you live your suburban lifestyle in a middle class home with two overprotective parents while you listen to your favorite "emo" bands and talk on msn all day about how original you are following an already dying trend.
TheGothicEmo (kind of an oxymoron there) abuse is no excuse for taking someones life. i know people who are clinically INSANE (not just depressed), yet they have never done something like that (murder). we cant let ourselves be overcome. we have to pick ourselves up and realize that what happens in our lives does not concern the health and security of anyone else. that was very mean of that other guy to assume you live comfortably, though. youre a human to me :) whether sad or emphatically happy
Her mother is on probation for drug charges. Father's in prison for assault charges. She lived with her grandmother. At age 11 she tried to hang herself. In 2007 she tried to commit suicide again and was prescribed Prozac. Prozac, an SSRI, is known to induce psychotic behavior when given to children, including suicidal thoughts/attempts, as well as homicidal thoughts/attempts. While she was taking the SSRIs, she had made multiple suicide attempts in those two years.
and that's supposed to be an excuse for killing an innocent little girl!? i think not. lots of people have fucked up lives, that's no excuse for murdering someone. she's 15 years old and clearly knows the difference between right and wrong. she should and will be tried as an adult.
Do you even understand what I posted at all? She was on SSRIs after a suicide attempt last year. SSRIs have unpredictable effects on children and their developing brains. There's no doubt that the Prozac she was on led her to these actions.
were you there? do you know for a fact she was on that during the time of the murder? NO, you do not. lots of kids take prozac and anti-depressants...you don't see them all running around murdering little kids! no excuse. get real.
Your statement of "a lot of kids take prozac and anti-depressants" is kinda inaccurate. Most doctors will not prescribe SSRIs to children. They're mind-altering substances, and when you introduce these drugs to a still-developing brain, it's almost impossible to predict how the reaction will be.
Most kids who are "on anti-depressants" are taking placebos, because most cases of depression in children are so mild that you can lie to them and they'll feel better. Alyssa was on real SSRIs.
um actually yes a lot of teenagers ARE on anti-depressants. and yet, you don't see them running around murdering innocent children left and right. my mother is a nurse and has had to administer these types of drugs to many teens. i'm not sure where the hell you're getting your misinformation from. i also don't see what the hell nancy grace has to do with anything. the fact that you are trying so foolishly to justify this heinous act is down-right despicable.
I'm not justifying her actions one bit. The point I'm trying to make (and you repeatedly ignore) is that she should NOT be tried as an adult for the following reasons:
She is 15
She is mentally unstable
She was prescribed mind-altering SSRIs
By trying her as an adult and going for life without parole, you're only seeking revenge, and vengeance does not solve the problem, it only makes you feel better.
She should be tried as a juvenile and given the help she needs. She IS still human, you know
You're not making any point. Teenagers are tried as adults all the time based on the severity and circumstances of the crime (this is nothing new). And this crime is one of the worst of the worst! Not to mention she's 15, not 10! She's not a child. And I assure you she is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. That's why she hid the body!
And everyone who commits a murder for no reason is a bit "mentally unstable," does that mean they should all get a pass!? Absolutely not! They're not insane! And once again, you can not prove she was on drugs at the time of the murder, and you definitely can not prove that they were the cause of her actions.
If this girl were to be tried as an adult, she would receive a slap on the wrist and be sent to a juvenile women's group home for a few years! In other words, she would not have learned her lesson and could easily be right back out on the street to slaughter more people. You call that JUSTICE!?
Yeah she's a HUMAN who MURDERED somebody! And she should pay for her crime! What baffles you so much about that concept!? I love how people like you turn a blind eye and ignore who the real victim is, the little girl who was STRANGLED, STABBED, and had her THROAT SLIT before being dumped in the woods. And you act like it's no biggie...that's sick.
Not ever murderer is mentally unstable. There are people who simply enjoy the act. Take a look at a bunch of the kids joining the military these days. "Gon' shoot me up some towel heads when I get outta high school!" (this is another conversation for another day, however).
Alyssa has a history of mental illness. I don't wanna say she's retarded, but there's an obvious mental obstacle preventing her from proper function.
The point I'm trying to make here is that she's not mentally CAPABLE enough to be reasonably tried as an adult. Not only is she 15, but she doesn't have the proper capacity of an average 15 year old.
Funny, though, that you'd question my definition of justice. Do YOU consider justice to be locking up a mentally unstable child in prison for the rest of her life because of a mistake a doctor made for her?
That's not justice. That's revenge. Eye for an eye, you're just as bad as Alyssa.
Now that I think about it, you're actually worse than Alyssa.
She didn't kill out of malice, but out of curiosity. She had no real motive. You, however, have a motive to lock her up for the rest of her life. That's more premeditated than the murder she committed.
You need to take a look at your own morals, methinks.
SHE DIDN'T KILL OUT OF MALICE!?!? Congratulations, you are officially one of the biggest idiots I've ever heard in my life. I'm not going to address any of the bullshit you just rambled on about because it's the same thing you've been saying, with absolutely no evidence to back it up. You have the nerve to blame a doctor for this girl's behavior, when you are NOT a physician nor do you have access to her medical records.
I'm not justifying murder. Where did you get that from? I'll tell you where you got that from; from refusing to absorb the meaning behind what I'm posting. I'm not saying set her free. I'm saying that she needs more help than to just rot in a cell for the rest of her life. That does her no good. Of course, YOU don't care about what happens to her, because you obviously can't admit the fact that Alyssa is still a human like Olten was.
Also, I have been backing up my statements. Go read the news articles about this case. It's been announced hundreds of times now that Alyssa has a history of mental health problems, multiple suicide attempts, and has been prescribed SSRIs by a doctor in 2007 after a suicide attempt.
Is there something that you're just not able to follow along with? Because I don't know about you, but I'm actually trying to have an intelligent conversation (on YouTube, yes, I realize the irony).
If there is something that you're missing, tell me so I can explain it better, because obviously you're not understanding (although I believe that you're doing that on purpose at this point).
It's kind of hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone who doesn't understand basic facts and statistics. ONCE AGAIN, I will say it for the 5th time, lots of teens are depressed, on anti-depressants, and also consider/attempt suicide...yet hardly any of them go around murdering little children!! So once again your attempt to justify Alyssa's behavior by blaming it on the "drugs" and her suicidal state have no bearing!!
of course there is different degrees of any psychological ailment or physiological ailment for that matter...what's your point? no matter how depressed somebody is, it does not change what a person KNOWS is right and wrong. so any action a person takes, is decided by their own FREE WILL...thus, they should be held responsible for such decisions.
Why do the courts try teenagers under 18 as adults? That is so unfair, they are not adults.
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jeremywingo 3 weeks ago
Don't subscribe to her channel on here it's disturbing
LeahJane1995 1 month ago
We ignore our kids at our peril!
popazz1 1 month ago
Alyssa's only defence would be diminished mental capacity but I doubt if the jury will buy that and I don't feel that they should. She should serve at least thirty or more years in prison if not life. Society can do without people like her.
Cainkane1 2 months ago
child. she a child killed a child. you can't believe a TROPPER,.
EdwardRichtofenDr 3 months ago
its always the ones that "seem like a normal guy". :( when my teacher told us about this story i just couldnt believe it. I hope justice is served accordingly
sushisaysmeow 6 months ago
Sentence this evil cunt to a slow and violent method of torture and execution!
ejr23 6 months ago
I think I'm in love with her guys...
UvaldoPalomares 10 months ago
@UvaldoPalomares no man stay away..she's satan
xelbaga1987 8 months ago
@xelbaga1987 I CAN CHANGE HER DUDE! I COULD!
UvaldoPalomares 8 months ago
she killed her because she was jealous of her, that's what I believe.
marsal811 10 months ago
WHAT IT FEELS LIKE omg this girl is rong
LiLmIZzLyNzE 11 months ago
Shes like any teenager, shes nothing special.
It's just someone who knew no limits and did the biggest mistake she could possibly do in her life.
Real disturbed people aren't like her. Shes pretty normal, you can see her jailed picture and shes not "enjoying" anything from what said to be "Felt like".
In my opnion : She should be punished and jailed, but shes not any psycho. Real psychopats don't ever go to jail =D
halafradrimx 11 months ago
its heartbreaking!... what could happen in someones life to make them take a life,and not care about their own.
flossysam 1 year ago
wow this psychopath suggested on YouTube that she would kill someone and allegedly murdered her 9-year-old neighbor.
oleHABSole 1 year ago
she will be out of jail when she turns 21 ! love her
hayleywilliams2010 1 year ago
@hayleywilliams2010 No she won't. Alyssa will be in her fifties when she gets released.
Cainkane1 2 months ago
This is sick. Glad she was tried as an adult. Crazy bitch.
LovelyLush5649 1 year ago
She made a mistake ,, give her a break ... shes only 15, get her some help and let the girl live her life ..
hayleywilliams2010 1 year ago
@hayleywilliams2010 FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU
909Dwayne 1 year ago
@hayleywilliams2010 a mistake? this isn't as small as accidentally smashing a window. this is plotting for a week and killing a child out of curiosity! 15 is old enough to know that killing is a horrific thing to do.
she'll get help all right. years of help in jail. it'll give her time to think about what she did. years of it.
jadeyes914 1 year ago
everyone here is right. no one understands her. no one could ever understand why you would just kill a 9 year old girl for no reason other than to just have the experience. Your right, i dont understand that at all.
just because she did something wicked evil and wrong doesnt mean she just needs "meds" she needs a jail cell. i'm sure the inmates will take care of her there.
gowill2 1 year ago
@gowill2 What's so hard to understand? she is obviously a sociopath and doesn't feel empathy or feelings for humans and animals.
oleHABSole 1 year ago
Alyssa you are the best ... i wish you all the best .. no one understands you ! you need med help not jail ... people give her a break !!!!
hayleywilliams2010 1 year ago
@hayleywilliams2010 she killed a 9 year old girl because she "felt like it" whats wrong with you?
gowill2 1 year ago
@gowill2 bet you wouldn't feel like giving her a break if she killed one of your family members out of curiosity.
jadeyes914 1 year ago
@hayleywilliams2010 Exactly what I'm thinking!!
clairewhittaker 9 months ago
She did it for the lulz.
davemartin8686 1 year ago
Well i hope she doesn't GET the chance to commit suicide and that someone kills her first.
TheTMoneyzz 1 year ago
It's possible her first thought was to see her twin brothers dead when she dug 2 graves, that could be why she tried to get them electrocuted.
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whitbabe3251 1 year ago
NexCarnifex- you are a real worry! no, I have never wondered what its like to kill someone,if you think its normal to feel like that,then you need to get some help! You have a problem and I recommend that you see someone about it quickly before you act upon it. Look up SOCIOPATH.I am very serious!!
joeythebushkangaroo1 1 year ago
she chose a 9 year old couse she was pussy
LaDyG13XIII 1 year ago
@professormoron : why shouldn't she? uhm, because she isn't an adult!
united states law defines "adult" as over the age of 18. ms. bustamante is 16, 15 at the time of her crime. she is a minor, and it is a travesty of justice that she is being tried as an adult. i'm not saying her crime doesn't warrant serious punishment - but it's a little girl they're trying at the end of the day, and they need to consider other avenues than simply sticking her in a pile of death row inmates.
ginsengaddict 1 year ago
Haven't any of you people ever wanted to know what it feels like to kill someone? I know I have! I don't blame her for just being a little bit curious, everyone is, she's just like me and you, a curious person. Maybe I'll just go kill someone one day to see how it feels, I'm sure everyone has at some point in there lives.
NexCarnifex 1 year ago
@NexCarnifex -no,I have never in my life wanted to know what it feels like to kill someone- seriously,you need to go and talk to someone about what you just said-you are a worry!!
joeythebushkangaroo1 1 year ago
@NexCarnifex-you are a real worry!! no,i have never thought that way-if you think it is normal to feel like that,then you need to get some help! i am really serious here.you have a problem and i recommend that you see someone about it quickly before you act upon it.
joeythebushkangaroo1 1 year ago
@NexCarnifex lol you're an idiot, probably a sociopath. My conscience has never pushed me to wanting to kill somebody.
oleHABSole 1 year ago
He considers her an adult because the crime was especially hienous. That is B.S. I think she should be punished severlly, but how can the crime make you an adult? Just one more lophole in the system.
rebelnomo 1 year ago
@rebelnomo because if they merely put her in a juvenile detention facility she'd 100% be let out at age 21 even if she MURDERED someone, and fact here is more than 600 children have escaped their detention facility lmao
MWguitarist 1 year ago
@MWguitarist Yea, that would be screwed-up. If she did that to my daughter or sister, or even neighbor, I would've wanted to kill her myself. But I still think the laws are screwed-up. If you are 18 and screw a 15yo., you are a pedophile. But if you are 15 and kill someone, then you are considered an adult. Either a 15yo. is an adult or they are not. It all depends on the circumstance's not age, that is the only issue I have with it. She should definately pay with her life in any case.
rebelnomo 1 year ago
What this girl did makes me sick. It doesnt matter if she was depressed, it doesnt matter what bad has happened to her in her life, it does not justify the murder of an innocent person. Especially if it's first degree murder. Everyone has bad things happen to them, this girl is fucked up and i hope she gets what she deserves. What a dumb fucking bitch.
hayzel96 1 year ago
Poor 9 year old :((
Fuck you Alyssa!! What the hell do you mean "wanted to see what it felt like". What a jackass! Screww Alyssa Bustamnate!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00lollipopgirl00 1 year ago
@00lollipopgirl00 you act like she can actually read you comment and actually give a damn
Catsie15 1 year ago
what part of "love thy neighbor" doesn't she get?!
alipazagaful 1 year ago
WHY THE HELL IS SHE TRIED AS AN ADULT! BUT SHE CANT DRIVE A CAR AS AN ADULT SHE CAN BUY LIQOUR AS AN ADULT WHY DNT THEY JUS LET KIDS DO EVERYTHING AS ADULT! THEYRE NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO DRIVE A CAR BUT RESPONSIBLE FOR A MURDER FUCK SOCIETY!
hiscibus 1 year ago
@hiscibus whhy do you think that you have to be 18 years old to understand that killing someone is wrong?
xxxglitterglamxxx 9 months ago
@xxxglitterglamxxx so why do i have to be 18 years old to drive a fuckin car? anyway i smoke weed get drunk all that shit n im 14 idgaf wat society has to say bcuz if i kill someone im going to be tried as an adult! im going to do everything adults to im a fuckin adult then fuckin stupid society
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She's pretty hot.
20Set10 1 year ago
As it seems, the consequences will never be the same...
AngryLittleWhiteBoy 1 year ago 3
Rape.
The consequences will never be the same.
anon483 1 year ago
" she was a gifted student and had never been in trouble with the law before "
Another he / she was the last person you would expect to do something like this... story !
Very sad story, I guess she made up for, "never been in trouble with the law before" !
She is a child, so who's really at fault ? Is it the parents / family or her doctors, her friends ?
I mean, nobody saw this girl's problems building ?
Wasn't anyone paying attention ?
luchpockets 1 year ago
its very easy for sociopaths to subdue their true natures. she isnt a child. children dont kill. she is a rogue animal, she broke social rules that not even a wolf would break. with sociopaths, there is no building of a problem, becuase to them there is no problem. killing is like crushing a bug to them. sociopaths are very very scary, armed with anti-depressants they are even scarier
tiemedown 1 year ago
@tiemedown , I must agree with you totally !
And I most definitely agree that with the anti-depressants they become even scarier,
It's giving the sociopaths a mask and costume !
luchpockets 1 year ago
the scariest part is that in the guise of a child, she couldve done anything. and who knows if she wouldve had the courage to strike without the use of those pills. terrible sitch, especially for the 9 yr old, why wont we learn that even though someone looks like a kid, odd behavior shouldnt be shrugged off. im sure they saw her acting out and thought it was a 'teenage phase'. scary.
tiemedown 1 year ago
god, shes making Missouri and jefferson city look like a shit we live in
ashbug30 1 year ago
what the heck is happening to this world?
d3vak 1 year ago
theres always a first time. show other kids her age and younger what its like to be tried as an adult.
narcovice 1 year ago
Lol ^^ interesting personality... love to talk to that girl
mickderkskouta 1 year ago
I'd hit that
lol for distastefulness
Also she killed someone to know what it feels like, seems to me that she was a normal kid who had an obsession with goodfellas or a similar mob film and was wandering whta its like. Fuck her for being so stupid. Now a little girl is dead, and if i was the father I would brutally and slowly murder her
powerdbycomedy 1 year ago
i'll tell u why she did it because of those stupid anti depressants she was on that makes people murderers and suicidal. of course you dont hear from the media that she was on prozac. All the time i hear os shooting from people warped by prozac the phatmaceutical companies should be in jail
Superpanda9586 1 year ago
she should have killed herself a long time ago! (evil bitch)
uluvme29 1 year ago
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Hail Satan!
i wish i had a girlfriend like alyssa we would kill everyone...lol!
JcHunter66 1 year ago
Hello, Dexter Morgan.
Link10893 1 year ago
events of her liffe definetly triggered that and those symptoms are very similar to other serial killer fellings and stories
titanosos 2 years ago
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well...I guess that she knows how it feels now. Stupid girl....It feels like LIFE IN PRISON dummy. Enjoy you evil hearted twit
HAPPYFACE3691 2 years ago 30
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I've met a prison minister who has met with murderers and said each one has eventually recieved a forgiveness letter from their victim's family. In years to come I hope she recieves forgiveness. I don't blame the Olten family if they never decide on that, because that would be an extremely difficult thing to do, but if they do that, I will certainly take my hat off to them. Even if she is forgiven she still needs to spend life in prison.
sadrsch16 2 years ago 23
@sadrsch16 I agree she is still one of God's people, no matter what bad things she did. Everyone deserves a second chance I think.
Carolarny1 1 year ago
@sadrsch16
You think someone who strangles and stabs a 9 year old should be forgiven?
TheJamblaster 2 weeks ago
What's a 15 y/o doing on prozac anyway? I thought it was not safe (obviously not) for teens?
sxyfunchck 2 years ago
@clintonearlwalker there is a difference in abusing street drugs and taking prescribed medications. As far as the Manson gang they chose to abuse street drugs and the happy little family is in prison where they should be.
nana0567 2 years ago
Why? I know exactly why. Mind altering drugs, in this case Prozac. Look at the numbers of other kids that do these things while taking mind altering drugs.
I remember a famous case from 1969, involving females, knives, mind altering drugs, and murder.
Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkle, Leslie Van Houton, and others were taking mind altering drugs prescribed by "Dr Manson".
People seem so shocked when this happens, been happening for years and the cause is very simple.
clintonearlwalker 2 years ago
i live in missouri.
i was just looking in my year book from kindergarden year
and alyssa was in it as a first grader,
SCARY.
tanhonky94 2 years ago
i don't want to see anyone else die so im not going to come on here and say i want alyssa dead. but she should definetly be put away for life because she needs a looooong time to think about what she did. fortunately for her, she'll have a long time to choose between good and evil.
ghostsintheforum 2 years ago
give her the electric chair and let her know what that feels like! i dont care what her psych eval reveals...she is a murderer
judyleeverro1 2 years ago
what i think is people need to stop judgng "emo b****" "psyhco killer" "emo gone wild" she had NO excuss for killing that girl and i hope she gets punished....but i mean come on if u want to see her die or suffer and how old r u? ok its cruel for her to watch a 9 year old suffer but its ok for 20-30 year olds to watch a 15 year old suffer?? granit she did KILL someone still....hasnt everyone made a mistake....her was...really bad...but still u know right from wrong and still do bad stuff....
retardskool 2 years ago
what a wannabe evil biatch
InuSasha99 2 years ago
emo freak gone wild.
odinmp5 2 years ago
Unconscionable!
tanyatmr 2 years ago
crazy ass emo bitch needs help
VampGore 2 years ago
throw that bitch in jail for life
fuck that you cant kill some one like that at that age
you know that bitch is gonna be fucked up and shit
matBTF 2 years ago 3
the scary thing is that my friends kids rode the bus with alyssa and elizabeth i was looking at another video and people were calling alyssa awesome...me personally i dont think that that person would think that if she would of killed someone in there fam....
annmarie916 2 years ago 3
if she dug two graves what was the second one for
super65man 2 years ago
they say that the second grave was for her sister...
annmarie916 2 years ago
I wish all these bleeding heart Alyssa sympathizers,could see the crime photos of ELIZABETH, after they exhumed her out of the grave Alyssa dug for her! I wonder,would they still think Alyssa deserves compassion,help and forgiveness,that she obviosly,didn't think Elizabeth deserved?There will always be an entourage of idiots,to make homilies or excuses for anyone who commits a crime,no matter how heinous it is!
mina1066 2 years ago 3
THANK YOU! Iv'e heard people saying "jesus forgives her!"
"she should be forgiven!"
"free her!"
SHE KILLED A NINE YEAR OLD FOR NO REASON!!!!
why can't people see how horrible that is!? does anyone care Elizebeth olten will never get to grow up? Marry? Have children of her own? All because Alyssa decided to kill! and what about her family!? i feel bad for them! losing there child and everyone taking the killers side! I say alyssa needs therapy and and deserves what she gets for her crime!
ruri0san 2 years ago 5
@ruri0san
I know i completely agree
i heard that she whiped the blood all over her face and put the pictures of it on facebook, is that true
1m2a3t4t5 2 years ago
@ruriOsan Your welcome,and thank you.I'm just fed up with the victims being shoved aside and pity given to the criminals!Alyssa knew what she was going to do was wrong.We were all 15 once.We all knew what death was and that it was wrong to kill.Sure,she was under psycological care and on antidepressants;she was also on illegal drugs and alcohol.That is still no excuse!She was an honor roll student,who attended school everyday,she was well in control of her actions and mental faculties.
mina1066 2 years ago
I wrote that jesus will forgive her, and yes he will, no matter how great the sin, JESUS always forgives. Because if you can't forgive Alyssa, then there will be noone to forgive you when you ask for it. How would you like to be hated, spit on,beat up in the eyes of public opinion, then chewed up and spit out again. Thats what forgiveness is for. I know you go to church on sunday, can't you find it in your heart to forgive her? No matter how evil the deed?
TheNopiracer 2 years ago
Yes, i still would be compassionate toward alyssa,even after seeing the horror of what she did. I'm not going to turn around from supporting her and then HATE HER WITH ALL MY HEART! that would make me just as evil as her, maybe even far worse. If Alyssa ask god to forgive her, then she is forgiven. Hate not the sinner,only the sin,which thou commits!
TheNopiracer 2 years ago 2
This girl will rot in hell for murderering a poor, defenseless child.
R.I.P- Elizabeth
Kailalove 2 years ago 2
You're not god; That's for the lord and alyssa to decide. She choose the path of evil, but just like how we all get lost finding our way, there's still hope for her to turn back and take the right path. Its never too late to have a change of heart.
TheNopiracer 2 years ago
Numbers 35:31 (King James Version) 31Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.
TyneRoseMedia 2 years ago
The bible is full of different opinions; is this from the new testment? Because the old testment is the true book to follow. That statement you put implys just the oppsite of jesus teaching of forgiveness of sin. Yes, lock up and throw away the key, but don't hate the sinner because of the sin.
TheNopiracer 2 years ago
The Bible is full of great testimony and basic instructions for believers to follow. The old and new Testaments are very important books to understand and read. Jesus does teach forgiveness but he also teaches us not to be fooled by evil. There is a difference between sinners, which we all are and the lost. The lost ones even God does not forgive but has a special place for them to go.
TyneRoseMedia 2 years ago
What! God don't forgive the lost? thats the whole reson the church is there for, so those who are lost can find their way back.
TheNopiracer 2 years ago
@TheNopiracer You have to be able to discern between the lost that can be saved and the lost that are evil and will do you harm. There is a difference.
Luke 9 1Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
TyneRoseMedia 2 years ago
@TyneRoseMedia Con't from Luke 9 3And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. 4And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. 5And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
TyneRoseMedia 2 years ago
@TyneRoseMedia I hate to break it to ya, but when you die it's over. That's it. Better make your life as good as you can, because this is the only one you get.
rebelnomo 1 year ago
damn those old skanks are gonna rip her little emo ass to pieces ahahahahahahaha!!!
BRZRKRvsEARTH 2 years ago 2
it seriously makes me sick how the motherfuckin media and america in general gangs up on people that are different and calls them strange, or disturbed and a bunch of other shit. i hate the idea that the gov has so much power over us that they can imprison people... and all the motherfuckers that think theyre superior to her by talkin shit and ganging up on her are pathetic... THINK 4 URSELF dont let society tell u how people should be and dont hate people 4 being different its DISGUISTING
dime1046 2 years ago
I agree with you completely, the american media just fucks over everything
eblanedge 2 years ago
We aren't ganging up on her for her differences from us. We're ganging up on her because she murdered a nine year old.
alkalinetrio3 2 years ago 2
search .. Alyssa Bustamante - Prozac; an SSRI linked to teen violence
TaylorMarieEntity 2 years ago
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TaylorMarieEntity 2 years ago
Obviously Alyssa has serious mental problems,but that goes for a lot of ppl on here as well.They say killing a little girl is horrible, then talk about killing Alyssa.
Anyone see the faulty logic here?
2 months ago,no one even HEARD of Alyssa,or Elizabeth Olten either, and now everyone is screaming for blood.
I agree w/ her lawyer about not being able to recieve a fair trial because of media predjudice.The trial is a joke, she's already been tried,convicted,and sentenced in the media.
XDarkAlch3mistX 2 years ago
Free Alyssa!
Alyssa Is the victim in this!
This is how depression effects someone's life! DEPRESSION IS REAL AND THE WORLD DOESN'T REALIZE IT, IT'S ALL YOUR GUY'S FAULT
On a side note, her parents are pushing for Alyssa to be put in prison for life. Why guys.. Why.
Yes, Yes I am defending Alyssa Bustamante. That is my goal of these coming months.
Please give everyone some mercy
21ollej 2 years ago
its to make sure she doesnt kill someone else. why should I have to explain this to you? if you could only think for yourself
jrnesbit 2 years ago 2
When I say 'free' I mean not just to let her run free again. I mean sent her to a mental hospital, let her go thru rehab or therapy for a year or two and then based on progress see how she's doing and let her go.
Being charged as an adult and spending life in prison.. That's just cruel. Depression did play a role in this.
21ollej 2 years ago
I don't see how you think Bustamante spending her life in prison is cruel... she killed a nine year old, that's pretty cruel if you ask me, and very deserving of a lifetime sentence.
kellogssxo 2 years ago 2
I don't see how people see this sane. People would push for death penalty, sadly (for these so-called adults) the law doesn't permit 15 year olds to be killed.
We're not talking about an adult. We're talking about a child who killed a child. Does she REALLY deserve to be let to rot in jail? I thought we were all supposed to give second chances.
21ollej 2 years ago
You want to give a second chance to a girl who stabbed, blugeoned and choked a 9-year old girl??
Kailalove 2 years ago 2
What about a second chance for Elizabeth?When Alyssa can give her(Elizabeth) one,then she will deserve one herself!Alyss ,is a child in age only.If she can commit an adult crime,then she needs do adult time!
mina1066 2 years ago
I guess the chance for Elizabeth is too late. But not to be rude or cruel, (just being technical) she won't care really. She doesn't know.
The family however, needs repairing (As does Alyssa's). I say make the Alyssa's family pay a fee to the family (Not too large not to small) and have Alyssa be let out to get serious mental help and care.
And are you saying only adults can commit adult crimes? Hear about the 7 year old last year who shot his father and his father's friend?
21ollej 2 years ago
@21ollej It is too late for Elizabeth.Her family needs the one(Alyssa)that did this to be punished,not money!How odious!Alyssa was already receiving serious psycological help,maybe,she could stay with you,if they let her out while she gets more help.People know right from wrong at a very early age...Alyssa feft she was adult enough to deside to MURDER Elizabeth.Why shouldn't she be punished as an adult? Do you kow the detailes of the 7yr. olds case? I would be interested to hear about them.
mina1066 2 years ago
Doesn't fucking matter. She murdered a nine year old, and she dug the grave a day before. It was extremely premeditated. Depression doesn't justify cold blooded, planned out murder.
alkalinetrio3 2 years ago 4
-high 5s bustsomecaps- thank you! you said exactly what i wanted to say but didnt know how to, you saved me the trouble.
SuperKuma13 2 years ago
she should fry...just so she can know how that feels..its only fair ¯\(°_o)/¯
turnipdaisy 2 years ago
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coffie66 2 years ago
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Are you volunteering to torture her to death? If you are and your the kind of person that would torture a fifteen year old girl to death could you please turn yourself into the nearest police department or mental facility as someone like you isnt fit for decent society.
harding10B 2 years ago
well why not?she tourchered that little girl to death. why sholdnt she.and no im not voluntering, i would never do that. Killing is wrong, and its no exuse just because your 15. its even wores that she killed that little girl just because she "wanted to see what it felt like". and just so you know, im not some crazy old weirdo with anger issues, im a teenager. You shouldnt go aruond accusing people of things you arent to sure about yourself.
coffie66 2 years ago
I agree with you coffie66
SuperKuma13 2 years ago
thank you
coffie66 2 years ago
Theres no proof, I believe her brothers did it.
jimmysmokedweed 2 years ago
she confessed, thats proof
Vandyfan8000 2 years ago 2
"She just wanted to know what it felt like"
Hello people. She's a sociopath. She dug a grave for the little girl the day before she killed her. She planned it out. If she does get out of jail, she will do it again. There's something very wrong with her.
MissSerenaAustin 2 years ago 3
You CANNOT blame murder on depression. I used to be extremely depressed, but never did I have a thought of murdering anyone. Having the ability to murder someone means there is something very wrong and twisted with you.
gabbee16 2 years ago
We can blame it on the mental ilness or medicals precriptions and shit..Like many times we do with these cases which is absolute bullshhit. She was a smart girl in class and she certainly knew what she was doing and what she has coming for her now. Stop defending a killer, like she is a victim..The girl that died is a victim and the parents of that girl who will never see there daughter again..think about that and stop being so damn defensive about it.
bustsomecaps 2 years ago 2
I hope she wont kill herself ever.. This girl is not worth helping in a mental hospital, she took an innocent life and had pleasure in killing her. She needs life in prison and a life full of agony and pain, she wanted to wonder what it feels like and now she can.
bustsomecaps 2 years ago 3
America is scary
Mcmotherfuckingrory 2 years ago
rofl
XxPostalDudexX 2 years ago
Oh jeez what teen nowadays doesn't suffer from depression. It's all the exercise they're NOT getting. You know what, teens back then didn't have time to contemplate murder because they were out working on their parents' farms or performing other physical labor. Ditch the drugs, get up and move. Exercise is good for you. Today's teens are lazy and sad.. in more ways than one.
lumyn 2 years ago
She is 15. Not an adult. It is illegal to hold her in adult custody. It doesn't matter how vicious the crime was...
Apmoponhon 2 years ago
It makes me sick to my stomach. I hope this little demon gets what she rightfully deserves.
aeangel589 2 years ago
True you right on the drugs
Hunterlol126 2 years ago
that's sick
DaymRight 2 years ago
oh man, ive watched so many videos on her trying to do a report and...well....what if she lied about killing the little girl and is secretly hiding the person who really did? :O theyre only going on her testimony, what if she was just an aid to the real murderer!? hey...ya never know :P
meatpuppet128 2 years ago
shes kinda cute for a muderer kinda feel bad for saying that
deedadeeguy2hot 2 years ago
deepdadeeguy2hot (heeheehee, i feel weird refering to you that way) dont be :) she wasnt ugly at all. its a shame she had to do that, maybe with the right friends at the right time and right place, she couldve been something great.
meatpuppet128 2 years ago
She told us what was going through her head. She obviously wanted to know what if felt like to be a murderer. And abuse isn't a reason to kill . If anything abuse stands for suicidal thoughts. But it's not a logical reason to kill a girl just to know what it felt like. I think you need to review her case. She is mentally ill, but that's not an excuse for the crime she committed on a innocent child. And yea I am judging the guilty killer. She show no remorse for her actions.
thuqmentality 2 years ago
Here's what happened:
She got abused
No one gave a fuck
She went insane
Now people give a fuck
She got her wish
TheGothicEmo666 2 years ago
fag
spacewind 2 years ago
@TheGothicEmo666 .She did not go insane. She plotted this murder . She sat there and knew what she was doing and dug two graves . People care for the innocent life she took, her actions she placed. And my personal opinion. I don't care about her. I hope that she gets the maximum punishment. Nobody wants a individual going around killing people for the hell of it. Her story is that she had a horrible childhood. But there's people who have it worse. The world doesn't revolve around her.
thuqmentality 2 years ago
Your sitting here judging from a very objective point of view. Are clearly and logically thinking. THAT GIRL must of had something going on in her head to commit premeditated murder. She wasn't thinking clearly, logically or objectively She was probably in an altered state of mind from being abused ABUSE does things to people I know how it feels to be abused and feel homo/suicidal.
Now justifying it but I'm saying I understand it.
TheGothicEmo666 2 years ago
GothicEmo666 ( your name already disregards all credibility to yourself as a human being already) I bet you know how it feels to be "Homo" Being abused is just an excuse for people to pretend to be mentally sick for the one thing they feverishly crave, attention.
spacewind 2 years ago
So I'm making up depression for attention? You know the stigma that comes along with clinical depression and Zoloft/Ambilify? If anything I'd lie and say I was a famous singer or something. I live in a suburb? Last time I checked I live in a fucking one bedroom apartment with a sick mother. But NOOOOOO I would make up something like that right? Is that what's going on in your head? "Oh this person likes emo clothes/music that means faking depression"
Get over yourself.
TheGothicEmo666 2 years ago
I find it ironic how someone who follows the emo culture just told me to "get over myself"
spacewind 2 years ago
gothic sucks
emo sucks
666 in ur ass
FrackassTv1 2 years ago
So you can whine and cry on the internet as you live your suburban lifestyle in a middle class home with two overprotective parents while you listen to your favorite "emo" bands and talk on msn all day about how original you are following an already dying trend.
spacewind 2 years ago
TheGothicEmo (kind of an oxymoron there) abuse is no excuse for taking someones life. i know people who are clinically INSANE (not just depressed), yet they have never done something like that (murder). we cant let ourselves be overcome. we have to pick ourselves up and realize that what happens in our lives does not concern the health and security of anyone else. that was very mean of that other guy to assume you live comfortably, though. youre a human to me :) whether sad or emphatically happy
meatpuppet128 2 years ago
Alyssa = sack of dirt.
pookiebearrrr 2 years ago 4
Her mother is on probation for drug charges. Father's in prison for assault charges. She lived with her grandmother. At age 11 she tried to hang herself. In 2007 she tried to commit suicide again and was prescribed Prozac. Prozac, an SSRI, is known to induce psychotic behavior when given to children, including suicidal thoughts/attempts, as well as homicidal thoughts/attempts. While she was taking the SSRIs, she had made multiple suicide attempts in those two years.
Shouldn't be tried as adult.
D14BL0 2 years ago
and that's supposed to be an excuse for killing an innocent little girl!? i think not. lots of people have fucked up lives, that's no excuse for murdering someone. she's 15 years old and clearly knows the difference between right and wrong. she should and will be tried as an adult.
MelieSue 2 years ago 4
Do you even understand what I posted at all? She was on SSRIs after a suicide attempt last year. SSRIs have unpredictable effects on children and their developing brains. There's no doubt that the Prozac she was on led her to these actions.
D14BL0 2 years ago
were you there? do you know for a fact she was on that during the time of the murder? NO, you do not. lots of kids take prozac and anti-depressants...you don't see them all running around murdering little kids! no excuse. get real.
MelieSue 2 years ago 2
Your statement of "a lot of kids take prozac and anti-depressants" is kinda inaccurate. Most doctors will not prescribe SSRIs to children. They're mind-altering substances, and when you introduce these drugs to a still-developing brain, it's almost impossible to predict how the reaction will be.
Most kids who are "on anti-depressants" are taking placebos, because most cases of depression in children are so mild that you can lie to them and they'll feel better. Alyssa was on real SSRIs.
D14BL0 2 years ago
um actually yes a lot of teenagers ARE on anti-depressants. and yet, you don't see them running around murdering innocent children left and right. my mother is a nurse and has had to administer these types of drugs to many teens. i'm not sure where the hell you're getting your misinformation from. i also don't see what the hell nancy grace has to do with anything. the fact that you are trying so foolishly to justify this heinous act is down-right despicable.
MelieSue 2 years ago
I'm not justifying her actions one bit. The point I'm trying to make (and you repeatedly ignore) is that she should NOT be tried as an adult for the following reasons:
She is 15
She is mentally unstable
She was prescribed mind-altering SSRIs
By trying her as an adult and going for life without parole, you're only seeking revenge, and vengeance does not solve the problem, it only makes you feel better.
She should be tried as a juvenile and given the help she needs. She IS still human, you know
D14BL0 2 years ago
You're not making any point. Teenagers are tried as adults all the time based on the severity and circumstances of the crime (this is nothing new). And this crime is one of the worst of the worst! Not to mention she's 15, not 10! She's not a child. And I assure you she is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. That's why she hid the body!
MelieSue 2 years ago
And everyone who commits a murder for no reason is a bit "mentally unstable," does that mean they should all get a pass!? Absolutely not! They're not insane! And once again, you can not prove she was on drugs at the time of the murder, and you definitely can not prove that they were the cause of her actions.
MelieSue 2 years ago
If this girl were to be tried as an adult, she would receive a slap on the wrist and be sent to a juvenile women's group home for a few years! In other words, she would not have learned her lesson and could easily be right back out on the street to slaughter more people. You call that JUSTICE!?
MelieSue 2 years ago
Yeah she's a HUMAN who MURDERED somebody! And she should pay for her crime! What baffles you so much about that concept!? I love how people like you turn a blind eye and ignore who the real victim is, the little girl who was STRANGLED, STABBED, and had her THROAT SLIT before being dumped in the woods. And you act like it's no biggie...that's sick.
MelieSue 2 years ago
Mellie, try to pay attention a bit here.
Not ever murderer is mentally unstable. There are people who simply enjoy the act. Take a look at a bunch of the kids joining the military these days. "Gon' shoot me up some towel heads when I get outta high school!" (this is another conversation for another day, however).
Alyssa has a history of mental illness. I don't wanna say she's retarded, but there's an obvious mental obstacle preventing her from proper function.
D14BL0 2 years ago
The point I'm trying to make here is that she's not mentally CAPABLE enough to be reasonably tried as an adult. Not only is she 15, but she doesn't have the proper capacity of an average 15 year old.
Funny, though, that you'd question my definition of justice. Do YOU consider justice to be locking up a mentally unstable child in prison for the rest of her life because of a mistake a doctor made for her?
That's not justice. That's revenge. Eye for an eye, you're just as bad as Alyssa.
D14BL0 2 years ago
Now that I think about it, you're actually worse than Alyssa.
She didn't kill out of malice, but out of curiosity. She had no real motive. You, however, have a motive to lock her up for the rest of her life. That's more premeditated than the murder she committed.
You need to take a look at your own morals, methinks.
D14BL0 2 years ago
SHE DIDN'T KILL OUT OF MALICE!?!? Congratulations, you are officially one of the biggest idiots I've ever heard in my life. I'm not going to address any of the bullshit you just rambled on about because it's the same thing you've been saying, with absolutely no evidence to back it up. You have the nerve to blame a doctor for this girl's behavior, when you are NOT a physician nor do you have access to her medical records.
MelieSue 2 years ago
You're a pretty pathetic piece of flesh to sit there and try to justify murder, which IS exactly what you are doing.
MelieSue 2 years ago
I'm not justifying murder. Where did you get that from? I'll tell you where you got that from; from refusing to absorb the meaning behind what I'm posting. I'm not saying set her free. I'm saying that she needs more help than to just rot in a cell for the rest of her life. That does her no good. Of course, YOU don't care about what happens to her, because you obviously can't admit the fact that Alyssa is still a human like Olten was.
D14BL0 2 years ago
Also, I have been backing up my statements. Go read the news articles about this case. It's been announced hundreds of times now that Alyssa has a history of mental health problems, multiple suicide attempts, and has been prescribed SSRIs by a doctor in 2007 after a suicide attempt.
Is there something that you're just not able to follow along with? Because I don't know about you, but I'm actually trying to have an intelligent conversation (on YouTube, yes, I realize the irony).
D14BL0 2 years ago
If there is something that you're missing, tell me so I can explain it better, because obviously you're not understanding (although I believe that you're doing that on purpose at this point).
D14BL0 2 years ago
It's kind of hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone who doesn't understand basic facts and statistics. ONCE AGAIN, I will say it for the 5th time, lots of teens are depressed, on anti-depressants, and also consider/attempt suicide...yet hardly any of them go around murdering little children!! So once again your attempt to justify Alyssa's behavior by blaming it on the "drugs" and her suicidal state have no bearing!!
MelieSue 2 years ago 2
you there is different levels of depression right? ya alot people is depressed but only few is at that point where they do these things
joevsyou 2 years ago
of course there is different degrees of any psychological ailment or physiological ailment for that matter...what's your point? no matter how depressed somebody is, it does not change what a person KNOWS is right and wrong. so any action a person takes, is decided by their own FREE WILL...thus, they should be held responsible for such decisions.
MelieSue 2 years ago