@dalecampbl6 Of course they do because they have to. If they dont the crippling regulations anti buisness legislators would destroy the growth of their companies. AS far as Goldman Sachs first off is not a typical company so there are some exceptions and secondly who do u think first implemented bail outs? Yep you guessed it FDR around 1933-34 during the Great Depression so while he let unneeded banks fail he still propped up the major ones which would have been your modern Bank of Americas.
We as democrats need to remember our brave fallen leaders. Who are requesting for us to take up their cause. We can not forget. Our convictions/history of our party. We must battle against the strong desire of indifference. That we as Americans. all feeling towards the system. If you hate the democrats or if you love us. Have the courage to at lease. take the time understand the child of humanity that dwells within all of us
If people had left Social Security the way FDR had made it, and if they had left the Glass-Steagall Act intact, our country would be a very different place... one that isn't so controlled by these millionaires. We need another FDR to "grill" them. :)
@jumpbacktome to be fair, Glass-Steagall was repealed under Clinton...but can you believe that Republican supporters argue that GWBUSH tried OH SO HARD to reign in derivatives...in fact, according to other Republican brothers and sisters, GWBUSH tried to reign in derivatives no less than 12 times during his 8 years. Isn't that a great joke?
@dalecampbl5 Oh, Democrats of today aren't much different from Republicans of today. They have one main thing in common: they care about big money over the people. It seems that the GOP is just a little more blatantly stupid, so pretty much anything they do is a great joke...
@jumpbacktome everyone wants MONEY...it's about survival...BUT the liberals aren't blinded by the ideology that those who earn the most should go on and earn it all. you cannot have a society that way...yes the top few cannot do what they want to do (like create Bubbles) and that's too bad, and they are gong to get taxed higher. TO me the Liberals are about as fair as you can get...but the GOP cries hell and fury every time taxes may be raised even 1% on the richest of the richest.
@Salvysahagun Yes, 30 years after it had been changed by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
And you're right, he couldn't have predicted that, but if Social Security was still a separate fund, we wouldn't be in the bind we are with it today.
@dalecampbl5 I'm not talking about wanting money. The Dems could repeal some of the garbage left from our previous administration, but they do not in order to protect their rich owners. Political Dems have the position to be fair, but they are too corrupt to see it.
Social Security should be a seperate fund. (Most people consider me a right winger btw)
It has nothing to do with the general budget. nor should it be discussed in terms of the defecit. If it collapses its collapses. I am more conserned about creating an envirement so if and when it does collapse its not the end of the world.
Start will making sure senior citizens shouldn't pay property tax and enhanced the medical infratructure ie Hill-Burton
@jumpbacktome Millionaires control the businesses they built and run. They dont want to have any influence on gov. nor do they wanted to be influenced by it people like you blame people like me because we are successful we are free market people companies should be voted based on success that is decided by the people not the government your comment is filled with hypocrisy because FDR is who brought business into politics by trying to regulate it prior they were two different things.
@unclepic1 Your posts are hard for me to read because of the bad punctuation, so please forgive me if I misunderstand.
I am blaming "people like you" because many of the country's problems are because of "people like you" -- that is, affluent millionaires who influence the government's policies. Not every millionaire has bad intentions, but many have pushed dangerous policies for years. FDR was not the first president to use policy to regulate business.
@rangers94ism Are you suggesting that more of the laissez-faire stupidity that brought on the Depression in the first place would have helped? What an asinine comment. FDR brought people hope when they needed it, and his policies effectively remained in place following WWII to bring the most prosperous decades this country has ever known.
@jumpbacktome Those millionaires where big fans of FDR. Why do you think Wall Street gives so much money to Obama? Big government has to borrow alot, which makes those millionaire bankers even richer. They could care less what policy the leader puts forward, as long as he spends deficit budgets.
@cooljj82 Big government referring to size, or big government referring to regulation? Obama supports big actual size, while FDR supported the latter option, which business hated.
I agree with most of what he says apart from the idea that he is a believer in the capitalistic system. If you really believe in capitalism, you would be an anarcho capitalist or right winged libertarian.
1.) Democracy and capitalism are NOT inseparable.
2.) Companies do NOT care about the general public.
Companies should be used and manipulated by government. Not the other way around. While Republicans go "we need less government" and Democrats say "we need a stronger government", nobody can argue that we need LESS CORPORATE INFLUENCE
"""Democracy and capitalism are NOT inseparable."" thats right. But if a person who has compleate faith in capitalism would normally vote for a guy like Ron Paul.
@gulbirk I don't care for Ron Paul honestly. But I don't have complete faith in unbridled capitalism. We require moderation, a "checks and balances" system between labor and companies, companies and influence, and total government independence from business.
I still say "Rom is burning" and Washington isn't doing much about it. Time to wake up. So, I am grateful there are people willing to protest. This is America. They have that right.
Not so. I voted for George Bush the Younger in ALL of his elections, including Texas. But that does not mean I will fail now to take a harder look at all this and see where wrong was done. He gets no free pass. I am hardly a cheerleader for the Democratic Party.
Well, I really don't care which party is at fault. Like most people when they hear this, I feel disgust that a big corporation has profits of $14 BILLION and doesn't pay taxes. I could care less who he votes for or who his political friends are.
i heard when millionaires refused to pay their taxes he was quoted in saying to "arrest that guy's ass and bring him straight to me." The national guard was sent in and smoked that guy out lol...
if somebody tried that today you'd be impeached. No more.
I wish we had FDR back again. God bless you, Franklin. He would have stood with the OWS crowd and demanded real accountability from the fat cats. Last year, GE made $14 BILLION profit (yes, profit) and paid NOTHING in income tax. Nothing. Too big to pay, I guess as well as "too big to fail." The biggest freeloaders in our society are the rich. Rome is burning, boys.
@Boelcke1919 For your information, the CEO of GE is Jeffery Immelt. He IS a supporter, and associate of Barack H. Obama. His company, GE received government bailout money from Obama, and has paid NO TAXES.
@Boelcke1919 "On January 21, 2011, President Obama announced Immelt's appointment as chairman of his outside panel of economic advisers, The New York Times reported that Obama's appointment of Immelt was "another strong signal that he intends to make the White House more business-friendly." Immelt will retain his post at G.E. while becoming "chairman of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, As CEO of General Electric in 2007, Immelt earned a total compensation of $14,209,267" Obama's friend.
the country, the economy was saved in the sense that millions of people were helped and got work thru the WPA jobs like building the Hoover Dam built betw 1931 and 1936, The TVA Congressional Charter in 1933, the Grand Coulee Dam built betw 1933 and 1942 (yr I was born) and provided hydroelectric power. These were all massive gov't projects completed with huge human effort. Can't you imagine the private sector creating them in the interest of the commonweal, civil society?? Uh, uh.
@bon1042 The projects that you mention were already planned before FDR became president. They were not FDR's ideas, they were U.S. government projects. Also, the "Six Companies Inc". won the bid to build Hoover dam. Not government workers. All FDR did was dedicate it.
@TOPOFFMAN I didn't say the gov't BUILT the dams. Companies, businesses, naturally would supply the equipment, materials. AND I didn't say the people who built, the workers were "government workers", clearly a slur in your vocabulary. No, they were Americans who were out of work because of the Great Depression. The Works Progress Administration created by people with imaginative thinking created jobs all over the spectrum.
@bon1042 Are you kidding? Those people, who were out of work, because of the great depression," would have taken ANY job they could get! They didn't give a shit about "imaginative Thinking" They just wanted a PAYCHECK!!!!!!
@bon1042 It is you, that has revealed yourself. Twisting words around. For sure, jobs were created, but you seem hellbent to give all credit to the government. If the private sector were not burdened by city, state,and federal regulation, we might have more innovation, and a better economy.
Liberals are the nastiest, angriest people I have ever met in my life. The wall street mobs are a prime example. Their lives must be pretty miserable. They always complain, and cry foul. They protest. They demand equality, and then call you names, and make violence. They play the race card at their convenience. They are always demanding something, instead of earning their own. They are NEVER satisfied with ANYTHING! It's never enough. HEY LIBERALS! Google the song "One Tin Soldier."
@TOPOFFMAN sounds like the racist tea party "mobs" of summer of 2010, demeaning posters of the President in "wild man of borneo" garb. a guy in Texas calling his 2 daughters pickaninees and threatening to kill them and their mother. You're way off topoffman. and I'm very familiar with "One Tin Soldier", being 69 yrs old.
@bon1042 As I recall, the tea party "mobs" didn't defecate, and urinate on police cars, like the wall street occupiers "mob" are doing. And on Monday's they were gone. Back at work, and at home with family. Not "occupying" and disrupting. Also, the Wall Street "mobs' that I've seen on the news, are mostly young white people. Could they be racist as well? After all, looks can be deceiving. And like I said before, you guy's play the race card at your convenience. so I understand completely.
@TOPOFFMAN You really are a nasty human being. You assume people there don't have jobs to go back to just to justify your filth. This is what I just read fm a friend on facebook....
"Back from NYC Occupy. Glad we went. Spoke to many interesting people, listened to Josh Fox speak, did an interview, meet a few anti-Frackers and taken many photos, many random conversations began from those walking by. So many different types of people. Very friendly, polite and respectful of each other.
@bon1042 You call me a "nasty human being", simply because, I am an informed individual, who expresses my opinion, or "filth" as you call it. I call it TRUTH, And you disagree with it. Fine. I've been called far worse.
@TOPOFFMAN ...... as was your "anecdotal story" re. a very stupid person or persons (if true) who allegedly defecated and urinated on a police vehicle, and don't deserve to be at OWS. You have a right to your opinions but not your own facts.
@TOPOFFMAN notice you've avoided my FACT laden list of WPA work projects pushed by FDR in the 1930's. As Conrad Black, an FDR biographer said, Franklin Roosevelt "saved capitalism". It's the robber barons, whether 19th or 20th century, who destroy. And there is not ONE pure capitalist economy on the planet, never has been. Here's one that shld drive you up the wall. FDR got his idea for Social Security fm Germany in the 1930's. It's social-ism, as is Medicare, and BTW, I'm not a guy.
FDR (Fat Dirty Rat) The first socialist president. A class warfare propaganda speech delivered by it's creator. Speaking at a college campus to a crowd of brainwashed youth. Obama learned from the best. The Fat Dirty Rat.
@Turdinreverse Turdinreverse, That name says it all. What a classy name. A disciple of the Fat Dirty Rat. So Turdinreverse, there's nothing left to say except.....To shove it up your ass.
@TOPOFFMAN I see you're a Michael Savage fan, so sad. I'm a radical progressive eco-feminist, utopian socialist, secular humanist, former Roman Catholic..... I must say I do like the classical guitar piece on your YTube page. You really shldn't insult the memory of Franklin Roosevelt, and in such an angry, nasty, miserable, foul, violent manner, to use your words. He saved the country in the 1930's. I don't think you realize how much suffering there was.
FDR (Fat Dirty Rat) The first socialist president. A class warfare propaganda speech delivered by it's creator. Speaking at a college campus to a crowd of brainwashed youth. Obama learned from the best. The Fat Dirty Rat
@pittbullbill You know what it means. It means that to get elected a democrat will pander to their masses. Telling them that he will look out for the poor, and then promise them some "Free Stuff", and then promise to punish the wealthy, and corporations with heavy taxation to make things "fair". And that the poor people will get some benefit from it. Sadly they never get anything out of it, except to lose their jobs and businesses. But it makes them feel better about themselves to fuck achievers
@TOPOFFMAN oh i just thought that when you tax one group of people and give the other breaks thats a form of wealth redistribution if they are the ones paying the taxes and the "achievers" arent then how are they fucking the "achievers"?
@pittbullbill I say that, Because there a lot of guilty "achievers" out there. Like the guy who just like died from apple, that made like billions of dollars and felt so guilty about it, that he like donated millions to humanitarian causes. And he still like died anyway. And he like also supported Obama. Just like a good little communist should It's like your self guilt could not save you like anyway.
@pittbullbill The way i see it, their truth, matches my truth, and my beliefs. BTW,You are not forced to listen to them. But I choose to. I find the truth so refreshing, and so much better than mainstream media propaganda that is spoon-fed to the ignorant masses.
@liberalcynic If Democrats of all stripes had voted in 2010 we wldn't have the nightmare of the past year. I don't think things wld have been that different. McConnell wld still use the filibuster, and there are at least 53 "blue dog" Democrats in the house. Also, Larry Summers, Geithner etc. Read the new book by Ron Suskind, titled Confidence Men. It will break your heart.
At least he could spew his poison with a smile in his voice and without a teleprompter.
jiouoiuuu 4 weeks ago
@dalecampbl6 Of course they do because they have to. If they dont the crippling regulations anti buisness legislators would destroy the growth of their companies. AS far as Goldman Sachs first off is not a typical company so there are some exceptions and secondly who do u think first implemented bail outs? Yep you guessed it FDR around 1933-34 during the Great Depression so while he let unneeded banks fail he still propped up the major ones which would have been your modern Bank of Americas.
unclepic1 1 month ago
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1awareness 3 months ago
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We as democrats need to remember our brave fallen leaders. Who are requesting for us to take up their cause. We can not forget. Our convictions/history of our party. We must battle against the strong desire of indifference. That we as Americans. all feeling towards the system. If you hate the democrats or if you love us. Have the courage to at lease. take the time understand the child of humanity that dwells within all of us
1awareness 3 months ago
If people had left Social Security the way FDR had made it, and if they had left the Glass-Steagall Act intact, our country would be a very different place... one that isn't so controlled by these millionaires. We need another FDR to "grill" them. :)
jumpbacktome 3 months ago 18
@jumpbacktome to be fair, Glass-Steagall was repealed under Clinton...but can you believe that Republican supporters argue that GWBUSH tried OH SO HARD to reign in derivatives...in fact, according to other Republican brothers and sisters, GWBUSH tried to reign in derivatives no less than 12 times during his 8 years. Isn't that a great joke?
dalecampbl5 2 months ago
@dalecampbl5 Oh, Democrats of today aren't much different from Republicans of today. They have one main thing in common: they care about big money over the people. It seems that the GOP is just a little more blatantly stupid, so pretty much anything they do is a great joke...
jumpbacktome 2 months ago
@jumpbacktome everyone wants MONEY...it's about survival...BUT the liberals aren't blinded by the ideology that those who earn the most should go on and earn it all. you cannot have a society that way...yes the top few cannot do what they want to do (like create Bubbles) and that's too bad, and they are gong to get taxed higher. TO me the Liberals are about as fair as you can get...but the GOP cries hell and fury every time taxes may be raised even 1% on the richest of the richest.
dalecampbl5 2 months ago
@jumpbacktome
The way FDR made it???
You realize it almost collapsed in the 1980s. ie Greenspan Commission
Not to mention he could have never predicted the run away inflation of the 1970s
Salvysahagun 2 months ago
@Salvysahagun Yes, 30 years after it had been changed by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
And you're right, he couldn't have predicted that, but if Social Security was still a separate fund, we wouldn't be in the bind we are with it today.
@dalecampbl5 I'm not talking about wanting money. The Dems could repeal some of the garbage left from our previous administration, but they do not in order to protect their rich owners. Political Dems have the position to be fair, but they are too corrupt to see it.
jumpbacktome 2 months ago
@jumpbacktome
Social Security should be a seperate fund. (Most people consider me a right winger btw)
It has nothing to do with the general budget. nor should it be discussed in terms of the defecit. If it collapses its collapses. I am more conserned about creating an envirement so if and when it does collapse its not the end of the world.
Start will making sure senior citizens shouldn't pay property tax and enhanced the medical infratructure ie Hill-Burton
Salvysahagun 2 months ago
@jumpbacktome Millionaires control the businesses they built and run. They dont want to have any influence on gov. nor do they wanted to be influenced by it people like you blame people like me because we are successful we are free market people companies should be voted based on success that is decided by the people not the government your comment is filled with hypocrisy because FDR is who brought business into politics by trying to regulate it prior they were two different things.
unclepic1 2 months ago
@unclepic1 Your posts are hard for me to read because of the bad punctuation, so please forgive me if I misunderstand.
I am blaming "people like you" because many of the country's problems are because of "people like you" -- that is, affluent millionaires who influence the government's policies. Not every millionaire has bad intentions, but many have pushed dangerous policies for years. FDR was not the first president to use policy to regulate business.
jumpbacktome 1 week ago
@jumpbacktome yea, but we'll see armed revolution before that happens... :(
redreaper2020 4 weeks ago
@jumpbacktome Yeah right, FDR sucked as the president. How long did he get that depression to last? The best thing that FDR did as president was die.
rangers94ism 1 week ago
@rangers94ism Are you suggesting that more of the laissez-faire stupidity that brought on the Depression in the first place would have helped? What an asinine comment. FDR brought people hope when they needed it, and his policies effectively remained in place following WWII to bring the most prosperous decades this country has ever known.
jumpbacktome 1 week ago
@jumpbacktome Those millionaires where big fans of FDR. Why do you think Wall Street gives so much money to Obama? Big government has to borrow alot, which makes those millionaire bankers even richer. They could care less what policy the leader puts forward, as long as he spends deficit budgets.
cooljj82 1 week ago
@cooljj82 Big government referring to size, or big government referring to regulation? Obama supports big actual size, while FDR supported the latter option, which business hated.
jumpbacktome 1 week ago
@jumpbacktome social security, the WPA, The tennessee valley authority- who are you kiddding? He increased the size of government in a good way
imadizzy1 6 days ago 2
@imadizzy1 Yes, but most of his important policies dealt with regulation.
jumpbacktome 6 days ago
I agree with most of what he says apart from the idea that he is a believer in the capitalistic system. If you really believe in capitalism, you would be an anarcho capitalist or right winged libertarian.
But he is one THE most left winged presidents.
gulbirk 3 months ago 4
@gulbirk two things that people forget:
1.) Democracy and capitalism are NOT inseparable.
2.) Companies do NOT care about the general public.
Companies should be used and manipulated by government. Not the other way around. While Republicans go "we need less government" and Democrats say "we need a stronger government", nobody can argue that we need LESS CORPORATE INFLUENCE
redreaper2020 3 months ago
@redreaper2020 Ron Paul can, LOL :)
"""Democracy and capitalism are NOT inseparable."" thats right. But if a person who has compleate faith in capitalism would normally vote for a guy like Ron Paul.
gulbirk 3 months ago
@gulbirk I don't care for Ron Paul honestly. But I don't have complete faith in unbridled capitalism. We require moderation, a "checks and balances" system between labor and companies, companies and influence, and total government independence from business.
redreaper2020 3 months ago 2
I still say "Rom is burning" and Washington isn't doing much about it. Time to wake up. So, I am grateful there are people willing to protest. This is America. They have that right.
Boelcke1919 3 months ago
@Boelcke1919 Rome is still burning because the arsonists in Wall Street are still shoving everything into their pockets.
dangerouslytalented 3 months ago
Not so. I voted for George Bush the Younger in ALL of his elections, including Texas. But that does not mean I will fail now to take a harder look at all this and see where wrong was done. He gets no free pass. I am hardly a cheerleader for the Democratic Party.
Boelcke1919 3 months ago
@Boelcke1919 Glad to hear that you are not a cheerleader. Both parties make me angry. We both share our frustration with Washington.
TOPOFFMAN 3 months ago
Well, I really don't care which party is at fault. Like most people when they hear this, I feel disgust that a big corporation has profits of $14 BILLION and doesn't pay taxes. I could care less who he votes for or who his political friends are.
Boelcke1919 3 months ago
@Boelcke1919 You would care if it were Bush.
TOPOFFMAN 3 months ago
i heard when millionaires refused to pay their taxes he was quoted in saying to "arrest that guy's ass and bring him straight to me." The national guard was sent in and smoked that guy out lol...
if somebody tried that today you'd be impeached. No more.
LordKaisen 4 months ago
I wish we had FDR back again. God bless you, Franklin. He would have stood with the OWS crowd and demanded real accountability from the fat cats. Last year, GE made $14 BILLION profit (yes, profit) and paid NOTHING in income tax. Nothing. Too big to pay, I guess as well as "too big to fail." The biggest freeloaders in our society are the rich. Rome is burning, boys.
Boelcke1919 4 months ago
@Boelcke1919 For your information, the CEO of GE is Jeffery Immelt. He IS a supporter, and associate of Barack H. Obama. His company, GE received government bailout money from Obama, and has paid NO TAXES.
TOPOFFMAN 3 months ago
@Boelcke1919 "On January 21, 2011, President Obama announced Immelt's appointment as chairman of his outside panel of economic advisers, The New York Times reported that Obama's appointment of Immelt was "another strong signal that he intends to make the White House more business-friendly." Immelt will retain his post at G.E. while becoming "chairman of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, As CEO of General Electric in 2007, Immelt earned a total compensation of $14,209,267" Obama's friend.
TOPOFFMAN 3 months ago
the country, the economy was saved in the sense that millions of people were helped and got work thru the WPA jobs like building the Hoover Dam built betw 1931 and 1936, The TVA Congressional Charter in 1933, the Grand Coulee Dam built betw 1933 and 1942 (yr I was born) and provided hydroelectric power. These were all massive gov't projects completed with huge human effort. Can't you imagine the private sector creating them in the interest of the commonweal, civil society?? Uh, uh.
bon1042 4 months ago
@bon1042 The projects that you mention were already planned before FDR became president. They were not FDR's ideas, they were U.S. government projects. Also, the "Six Companies Inc". won the bid to build Hoover dam. Not government workers. All FDR did was dedicate it.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN I didn't say the gov't BUILT the dams. Companies, businesses, naturally would supply the equipment, materials. AND I didn't say the people who built, the workers were "government workers", clearly a slur in your vocabulary. No, they were Americans who were out of work because of the Great Depression. The Works Progress Administration created by people with imaginative thinking created jobs all over the spectrum.
bon1042 4 months ago
@bon1042 Are you kidding? Those people, who were out of work, because of the great depression," would have taken ANY job they could get! They didn't give a shit about "imaginative Thinking" They just wanted a PAYCHECK!!!!!!
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN what ???!!..... oh, well now, you have just revealed yourself, truly. my god....
bon1042 4 months ago
@bon1042 It is you, that has revealed yourself. Twisting words around. For sure, jobs were created, but you seem hellbent to give all credit to the government. If the private sector were not burdened by city, state,and federal regulation, we might have more innovation, and a better economy.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
Liberals are the nastiest, angriest people I have ever met in my life. The wall street mobs are a prime example. Their lives must be pretty miserable. They always complain, and cry foul. They protest. They demand equality, and then call you names, and make violence. They play the race card at their convenience. They are always demanding something, instead of earning their own. They are NEVER satisfied with ANYTHING! It's never enough. HEY LIBERALS! Google the song "One Tin Soldier."
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN sounds like the racist tea party "mobs" of summer of 2010, demeaning posters of the President in "wild man of borneo" garb. a guy in Texas calling his 2 daughters pickaninees and threatening to kill them and their mother. You're way off topoffman. and I'm very familiar with "One Tin Soldier", being 69 yrs old.
bon1042 4 months ago
@bon1042 As I recall, the tea party "mobs" didn't defecate, and urinate on police cars, like the wall street occupiers "mob" are doing. And on Monday's they were gone. Back at work, and at home with family. Not "occupying" and disrupting. Also, the Wall Street "mobs' that I've seen on the news, are mostly young white people. Could they be racist as well? After all, looks can be deceiving. And like I said before, you guy's play the race card at your convenience. so I understand completely.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN You really are a nasty human being. You assume people there don't have jobs to go back to just to justify your filth. This is what I just read fm a friend on facebook....
"Back from NYC Occupy. Glad we went. Spoke to many interesting people, listened to Josh Fox speak, did an interview, meet a few anti-Frackers and taken many photos, many random conversations began from those walking by. So many different types of people. Very friendly, polite and respectful of each other.
bon1042 4 months ago
@bon1042 You call me a "nasty human being", simply because, I am an informed individual, who expresses my opinion, or "filth" as you call it. I call it TRUTH, And you disagree with it. Fine. I've been called far worse.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@bon1042 That is just one anecdotal story.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN ...... as was your "anecdotal story" re. a very stupid person or persons (if true) who allegedly defecated and urinated on a police vehicle, and don't deserve to be at OWS. You have a right to your opinions but not your own facts.
bon1042 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN notice you've avoided my FACT laden list of WPA work projects pushed by FDR in the 1930's. As Conrad Black, an FDR biographer said, Franklin Roosevelt "saved capitalism". It's the robber barons, whether 19th or 20th century, who destroy. And there is not ONE pure capitalist economy on the planet, never has been. Here's one that shld drive you up the wall. FDR got his idea for Social Security fm Germany in the 1930's. It's social-ism, as is Medicare, and BTW, I'm not a guy.
bon1042 4 months ago
EAT the rich!
MsCactusWren 4 months ago
FDR (Fat Dirty Rat) The first socialist president. A class warfare propaganda speech delivered by it's creator. Speaking at a college campus to a crowd of brainwashed youth. Obama learned from the best. The Fat Dirty Rat.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN
How can you call it class warfare when you obviously have no class to speak of to begin with?
Turdinreverse 4 months ago
@Turdinreverse Turdinreverse, That name says it all. What a classy name. A disciple of the Fat Dirty Rat. So Turdinreverse, there's nothing left to say except.....To shove it up your ass.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@Turdinreverse ... Don't feed the troll.
emantabrizi 4 months ago
@emantabrizi He stopped feeding 2 weeks ago!! FCOL!
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN I see you're a Michael Savage fan, so sad. I'm a radical progressive eco-feminist, utopian socialist, secular humanist, former Roman Catholic..... I must say I do like the classical guitar piece on your YTube page. You really shldn't insult the memory of Franklin Roosevelt, and in such an angry, nasty, miserable, foul, violent manner, to use your words. He saved the country in the 1930's. I don't think you realize how much suffering there was.
bon1042 4 months ago
@bon1042 The country was not "saved" in the 1930's.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
FDR (Fat Dirty Rat) The first socialist president. A class warfare propaganda speech delivered by it's creator. Speaking at a college campus to a crowd of brainwashed youth. Obama learned from the best. The Fat Dirty Rat
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN hey man been wondering what class warfare means or wealth redistribution means could you explain it to me? please
pittbullbill 4 months ago
@pittbullbill You know what it means. It means that to get elected a democrat will pander to their masses. Telling them that he will look out for the poor, and then promise them some "Free Stuff", and then promise to punish the wealthy, and corporations with heavy taxation to make things "fair". And that the poor people will get some benefit from it. Sadly they never get anything out of it, except to lose their jobs and businesses. But it makes them feel better about themselves to fuck achievers
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN oh i just thought that when you tax one group of people and give the other breaks thats a form of wealth redistribution if they are the ones paying the taxes and the "achievers" arent then how are they fucking the "achievers"?
pittbullbill 4 months ago
@pittbullbill I say that, Because there a lot of guilty "achievers" out there. Like the guy who just like died from apple, that made like billions of dollars and felt so guilty about it, that he like donated millions to humanitarian causes. And he still like died anyway. And he like also supported Obama. Just like a good little communist should It's like your self guilt could not save you like anyway.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN oh you like michael savage i herd him and limbaugh is the only people who tell the truth on radio everyone else just lies is that true?
pittbullbill 4 months ago
@pittbullbill The way i see it, their truth, matches my truth, and my beliefs. BTW,You are not forced to listen to them. But I choose to. I find the truth so refreshing, and so much better than mainstream media propaganda that is spoon-fed to the ignorant masses.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN so if limbaugh says it then it must be true
pittbullbill 4 months ago
@pittbullbill Those are your words, not mine.
TOPOFFMAN 4 months ago
@TOPOFFMAN thats kinda the way it sounded sorry i just thought thats wat you ment
pittbullbill 4 months ago
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LOL. like the humor, like scrambled eggs also. LOL
barsense 5 months ago
scrambled eggs... of course... :) if only we have an FDR now !
bon1042 5 months ago 23
@bon1042 We have an FDR now, it's Obama - give him a congress like FDR's 1936 congress in 2012 and what how things change.
liberalcynic 4 months ago
@liberalcynic If Democrats of all stripes had voted in 2010 we wldn't have the nightmare of the past year. I don't think things wld have been that different. McConnell wld still use the filibuster, and there are at least 53 "blue dog" Democrats in the house. Also, Larry Summers, Geithner etc. Read the new book by Ron Suskind, titled Confidence Men. It will break your heart.
bon1042 4 months ago
@bon1042 I want to become president and introduce the "New" New Deal! :D
deathball751 1 week ago