I think Evid3nc3 is a bit too optimistic that "our minds will naturally shave the unnecessary element away" ... I think Occam's razor is an active thinking process, not something passive what happens in ALL brains.
You are really doing a great job. Your videos are captivating and engaging. I was lucky not to be indoctrinated as a kid but as a teen went on a personal quest for god. I read the new and old testament and it sealed the deal for me. These books had special purposes for their time but it's the stuff of antiquity.
When Professor said:"That's all it takes" he summed up his argument as well as answered your question. Once you had doubt, it broke the simulation. What an economic clever & statement.
Ug. i just spent 1/2 hour...."Concept of God" Hooray, buddy here doesn't believe in (his own) "concept" of God.... concepts are easy enough to dismantle, especially when they are your own self-made concepts.
How is his concept any different from I am guess yours? I am pretty sure by watching ALL of the videos and not just half an hour worth he got a lot of what God is growing up. The guy was part of the Church for a good portion of his life. Why don't you watch from the start there buddy.
@TheWinButton I did, then commented. Concepts are concepts. All learning involves going slightly beyond concept. If you are after "The Truth" you must go beyond concept... He didn't get "a lot of God" growing up, in fact he got his own interpretation of some old mans concept of God. He then converted to a belief system based on physical evidence, logic, statistics...another adopted old-fashioned concept. Yawn.
@Dodec84 I'm sure if you watch and listen carefully, you'll discover it on your own. It's quite obvious. Maybe if I have the time, I'll post back on this comment with minute markers for reference. But it's my opinion that whoever created this speech, and video, like to talk more than research and study. Otherwise they would have known there was a contradiction. The efforts aren't the issue in any way. Only the message.
@Dodec84 In my opinion, this is merely a philosophical hypothesis at best. It shouldn't be fed to the masses of less mature minded people such as children.
After having watched basically every video on atheism on youtube (at least that's what it feels like!) I have to say that this series might be the best of its kind I've ever seen. Truly brilliant.
I can see how one could just as easily use Occam's Razor in favor of theism. All the logical arguments for God require extra assumptions to be made by an atheist seeking to refute them. For example, which is the simpler explanation: God created the universe, or the universe came into existence through some unknown naturalistic mechanism that runs contrary to our past experience with how the world works? Playing devil's advocate here, of course.
@ThatGuyWithHippyHair The difference is in the fact that we have access to information such as physics and deductive reasoning as well as experimentation. Simply asking which one is more believable only makes a god seem like the more reasonable explanation when asked to someone who holds no information to the contrary. As you gain information on what is provable to be true, eventually any god concept suddenly becomes the unnecessary element and gets shaved away.
@ThatGuyWithHippyHair ٍSo the alternatives are: The universe came into existance through some unknown naturalistic mechanism that runs contrary to our past experience of how the world works, or the universe came into existance through some unknown supernatural being that runs contrary to our past experience of how the world works. I still think the first one is preferable.
@YPicanda 1) There are likey BILLIONS of planets that harbor some form of life, if not intelligent. 2)The universe is not perfect. Most of it is filled with deadly radiation, hydrogen, or completely devoid of life... even if there are billions of life supporting planets. I'm not sure what you mean by "the factors of life." Phospholipid bilayers naturally occur in nature, along with all of the major organic molecules needed for a self replicating system to form. YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
@chedillychedilly1 there are likely? so you're not sure you miserable asshold.
there is no planet like earth, and God created that perfect earth 4 us so we can live on it and worship him, that's the whole aim of our human existance, but I can't convince a thankless perverted person like you. God created your body in the best stature, and made the whole univers in perfect system for you, and what you do for thanking him? you deny his existance?!
@YPicanda Of course I'm not sure.Those are the kinds of things an intelligent, thoughtful person says, and only a moron like you would turn and use it as a point to their advantage."There is no panet like earth." And you know this how... you insufferable douchebag!The universe is a perfect system!These are the rantings of an idiot.The conservative estimation for the habitable portion of the universe is so small a decimal number that it would not beable to fit in one of these message boxes.
@YPicanda If God created the universe, I honestly believe that it would be most unimpressed by people like you, who live in little-uninformed-fantasy bubbles and fail, on even a base level, to understand it. If there is an intellect that created the universe, you are about as far away from comprehending it as they come. I thank God by not pretending like I know it exists, and by learning as much as I can about reality. Oh, and ummm... "Fuck you man!" (very original, moron)
I'm sorry, but if the universe is "designed" for US. I would fire the engineer behind it. Even if our planet was "designed" for us, the "designer" behind it did a horrible job. 70% of this planets surface ALONE is salt water, and 98% of this planet in it's entirety is COMPLETELY uninhabitable by humans. The laws of physics and planet structure you imply were "created" for us, are the exact reason 99% of this universe "created for us" will kill life instantly.
Wow...just wow. I wish I could put my point across as well as you do. You are one of the most articulate "youtube atheists" I've seen up until this point.
@spishcadet aye,he is the best with words ive ever seen. to be honest,if he wanted to,he could easily convert one of weak resolve either way. This one has power,whether he knows it or not.
This is the single most profound illustration of Occam's Razor that I've ever seen. Thank you for sharing your journey from theism to atheism. :-) (by the way, I love your voice in these narratives)
@fbonnefoy91 In a sense, yes. Both the professor and Morpheus recall the ideas of philosophers like Baudrillard. Baudrillard's book Simulacra and Simulation can be seen in Neo's apartment early in film. Evid3nc3 even uses a piece of music from The Matrix in the next video in this series; a fitting touch.
I see your falacy. Faith = "belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." Your argument is false, because you are using logical proof and looking for material evidence to justify faith. That is a fallacy. Try again.
@909pleasantville Actually, I do believe that's exactly his point. One cannot justify faith based on logic nor evidence because faith is neither logical nor based on reality. Faith is literally the position of suspending logic to maintain a belief in the face of contrary evidence.
Now I'm not saying this is bad or good. It's just a statement of fact. Whether faith is good or bad depends on the circumstances and particular beliefs.
@mrtruthforever Design has nothing to do with it. The evidence is that there is a natural world. Look outside your window, you'll see it. The evidence is that the natural world is governed by strict and concise rules. Drop a rock. No matter how many times you drop it, it will always fall at the same rate. This is called gravity. At no point in these rules does design step in, nor intelligent processes. God doesn't make us fall by design any more than he makes planes fall out of the sky.
@kurayamisidekick To quote you: "The world is governed by strict concise rules". Hmmm. So you believe that strict concise "rules" throughout the universe are oximoronically not indicative of design? Any rule is more indicative of design than non-indicative of it.
@mrtruthforever I believe these rules are not indicative of a design in the same way you don't assume that a wave has a wave-makes, floating somewhere at sea, making waves for you to see on the shore. To make the assumption that the laws of the universe were designed is illogical, and then assuming any particular god is the designer is a second unsupported assumption. Do you have any evidence supporting your view?
two things make me sad about this series, and it is a trend I've noticed in other atheist videos. The age of people watching this is 25 and up. I'm 21. The second is that those numbers are all males. *sigh* It seems difficult to find atheist friends my age, especially of the female kind.
@werewolf873 Google Statistics still says 25 and up for this video. But yeah, there are a few teens like yourself who have thankfully come to their senses sooner than the rest of us. :)
@StevenCasteel ive found others my age,others who have,through journeys of there own,come to doubt the existance of god. once i finally worked up the nerve to "come out" about my atheism they expressed there doubts to me and asked for a bit of help deciding for themselves. i helped them where i could and where i couldnt i simply told them to look for the truth,whether they wished to acknowledge it or not.
However, I do feel you are right about the rational feminine presence on the 'tubes. Methinks they spend a bit less time arguing about such issues and just go on with their beliefs anyways, so they don't post often. But hey, that's just me :p
@StevenCasteel I hadn't thought of that. I suppose in one way it is true, what with all religions emphasizing women's servitude to men, how they must subdue, and all that. I have no experience with that myself though, so I can't say for sure.
Fewest assumptions, I think is on the side of science. Yes there are assumptions of a divine entity, but we also have assumptions such as... radiation in the atmosphere has NEVER changed (otherwise radioactive dating would be off). Science has plenty of assumptions. Hell, look at diet. We now know that meat and dairy cause cancer, yet scientists still eat meat.
There is also the assumption that what you hear in science is correct (biggest assumption there is). How do you know unless you did it
If morality is based upon something other than divine, just doing what is right, then you also open up that what you do right now, what you think is moral, is actually immoral. At one point, it was moral to rape women. Perfectly fine, no laws against it. Would it be moral today? nope. What about slavery? moral one day, not the next. So we can see that morality, as seen by humans, is not static either, and what is immoral today could be moral tomorrow or yesterday.
@nicolbee The professor is great, but god is way cooler. You see that pic of him surfing through the sky with fingers pointed in either direction and that stern look on his face? That's pretty gnarly, you have to admit.
some ask "who" create god to put a cap on the mental unsatisfying thoughts of infinity and pointlessness to why life starts and a ends as an individual. When in reality a who answer would explain nothing and bring more questions (ok god was create by this being, who created that being and so on) It would also bring up other question how did he created it and why.
This last part here is, in my opinion, the most important factor to take in when talking about religion, atheism and the human mind. Great job! It takes a few listens to fully grasp this, but it will eventually make sense to the Christians here.
@TheARMAProductions The reason It so convincing, is because it is exactly what a sincere believer could experience when confronted with mounting evidence both in the natural world, and in their own personal experiences. As a former Christian, it smacks of authenticity to me. Although, my own personal deconversion was actually quite different...
although this is very thorough, it seems that it doesn't have to be this deep. most people if not 90 percent of people would not think this hard about it. and i feel that it should only take at best two problems with religion or that one religion for somebody to falter.
@prplehrt120 Actually you'd be wrong even though what you say makes perfect sense. I was a Mormon for 12 years and it took just about every last string to be cut away before I was able to leave my religion and lose my faith in God and Mormonism. If you intertwine religious beliefs with your own identity, you pretty much have to be shown in every way possible that God simply may just not exist.
Evid3nc3, I noticed something... in 3:28 why is P stated as being from 700 BCE, when in the History of God part 1 video, P is described as the first fully monotheistic source that happened AFTER the deuteronomistr source D which happened during the reign of King Josiah in 622 BCE?
You portray this professor as a lingual, rational, controlled, wise man, yet you caught him trolling the Bible on Amazon.com haha. It's not that I doubt your lifestory, I just found that funny. Everyone trolls every now and then.
@mrsmarter12 What you're describing is deism. I think you're saying that you can't disbelieve in God due to the fact that you don't see a way you can believe that everything had just created itself with nobody helping to start the process. However, this doesn't help to conform any one denomination or set of principles does it? It is possible that the universe could have just always existed. It isn't a good thing to think this way, because then you have to think something created God.
@mrsmarter12 why "someone"? Why not "something"? And how does putting god in the equation answer anything? If god made it, then who made god? To quote you "someone had to of created him."
I have a friend just like this guy, went to a emotional pentecostal freak show where music is used abused and worshiped, he answered the alter call and called himself a Christian, the bible is very clear, once your sins have been forgiven Jesus must reside in your heart, if not then you will not return back to your former self but 7 times worse, Mathew 12;43-45. or 2Peter 2:20. Everything Evid3nc3 has come up with is in the bible, close but no (Christian) cigar
I watched all the videos to the end, and what stood out for me is this guy thought speaking in tongues made him a christian, the bible says tongues will cease, 1Cor13:18, unfortunately the Pentecostals are notorious for emphasizing speaking in tongues, experiences need to be judged by the bible and not the other way round, my friend is into witchcraft and he can speak in tongues, , sounds like this dude simply made a emotional decision something the Pentecostals are known for.
@outbackcafe Sounds like God hardened your heart just like Pharoah's. Evid3nc3 gives numerous examples of how he was a Christian.
With all the different definitions I have heard Christians give, there really are no true Christians. Good thing the Christian God made this religion so clear to us all.
@GodownEd1 "Evid3nc3 gives numerous examples of how he was a Christian." you're right he did give numerous examples although nothing of any substance, it takes one to know one, Evid3nc3 had every answer at his finger tips if he really wanted top know. The truth is he belonged to the same religion Benny Hin does, fake miracles and fake speaking in tongues, enough said. Sounds like God has hardened your heart
The noise in the cupboard analogy was fascinating, an excellent tool to help demonstrate Ockham's Razor in the context of the lack of evidence for religious beliefs. Nicely done sir
@farzero christianity is bull shit but islam is much worst. mohamed nd his imaginary friend(alah) nd shit, is just stupid. if after you read the qoran u still belive in it, then u need some serious help.
I would suggest looking into islam. The Quran will answer all your questions about life. The bible is historically distorted. Prayer is not for getting things or changing things, it's for the sole purpose of loving God. Science and God are one, also in Quran. To say that Morality exists independent of God's say holds no ground because God created everything, even morality. God can make 2+2=5 if he so desired. God is complex. God wants you to question, that's in the Quran. God's reaching for you.
Maybe you'll read what i'm saying and provide many counter arguements, but that's not my goal to convert you. I'm merely trying to tell you something. Chris, I used to be Christian too, to a certain extent, and then I lost hope. You will agree with me that having that "God feeling" in your life is amazing man. Close your eyes and try to remember that feeling bro, it's in there, inside your heart; I can tell in your voice. Go to a mosque man. Reading the Quran won't sway you. Immerse yourself!
but they lost many of their people to the polytheistic Greek religion due to it offering an afterlife. To compete and stop Hebrews from converting they added in an afterlife into the belief system. This worked, and Jews stopped converting to the more popular Greek religion. The other thing that really shook my faith was the BBC production God on Trial, in which Jews in a concentration camp put god on trial and come to the conclusion that god isn't good, and he has abandoned them. Peace out.
Hey, really interesting listening. I de-converted a while ago. For me it was more sudden, I watched a documentary on the history of Judaism, and it explained how the Jews borrowed the Canaanite gods and appropriated them, until they reduced it to a single god: El Elyon or Yahweh, but there are still references in other early Jewish texts to the other gods, like Asherah. The other aspect is that early Judaism had no afterlife, no heaven or hell, merely a code to do good and be wise in this life
No, "God doesnt answer intercessory prayer or there simply is no God" is a false dichotomy fallacy. To be perfectly honest, these are elementary theological questions that any amateur familiar with basic theology can answer.
Sad that you lost ur faith in God. How do you explain-Good& evil doing/right & wrong? If we never had rules to go by then, how do we know if something is wrong or right? We naturally know even as a kid if we have done wrong or right. If we didn't then no 1 would ever feel bad or happy. Don't tell me that somewhere in my brain I just amage it was wrong or right. Some1 had to set the law down & I believe it was God because no 1 has the ability to make a Planet. We can mock him only.Belive
Sad that you lost ur faith in God. How do you explain-Good& evil doing/right & wrong? If we never had rules to go by then, how do we know if something is wrong or right? We naturally know even as a kid if we have done wrong or right. If we didn't then no 1 would ever feel bad or happy. Don't tell me that somewhere in my brain I just amage it was wrong or right. Some1 had to set the law down & I believe it was God because no 1 has the ability to make a Planet or time. We can mock him only.Belive
@1me2b4u Good/Evil are human constructs made to classify events based on their outcome and underlying motives.
A child can't tell good from bad, it learns through trail and error. The child tends to get rewarded for good behavior and punished for bad behavior and the brain makes these connections which will give you a sense of reward whenever you do something good aside from people thanking you etc.
Second, you're asking the wrong question, why should it be a who? Why not a what?
Sad that you lost ur faith in God. How do you explain-Good& evil doing/right & wrong? If we never had rules to go by then, how do we know if something is wrong or right? We naturally know even as a kid if we have done wrong or right. If we didn't then no 1 would ever feel bad or happy. Don't tell me that somewhere in my brain I just amage it was wrong or right. Some1 had to set the law down & I believe it was God because no 1 has the ability to make a Planet or time. We can mock him only.Belive!
@TheHumanbeingHuman We live our lives. Focus on the precious time we have in this world and try not to hold society back. When I die I'll probably just rot in the ground, my consciousness having blinked out, and only live on in the memories of loved ones. I could be wrong. God could exist. I just have little or no reason to believe it. And if I die where God exists, then I will receive whatever punishment he believes is just. I imagine he and I would disagree on it, though.
Geez... now I have to ask myself, what is my foundation for believing in God? What is my foundation in believing anything? haha... I guess because I find it in myself like an echo. God doesn't need to exist according to what we know now, but I don't totally disagree with the bible... even the genocide that takes place.
Isn't Occam's Razor an unconscious process that we naturally tend to do?
You, my new friend, are brilliant. This entire series so far has been scintillating - you're tackling a much tackled issue from a completely different perspective and it is, in my opinion, extremely efficient.
Once we made this discovery, most of us reached the conclusion that Santa Claus is a myth. We didn't posit that Santa Claus must still exist, and just works through our parents in some nebulous spiritual sense. Yet that is exactly what the religious do with God. We supplant a supernatural explanation for a phenomenon with a natural one, and the believers defeat this by saying that God works through this natural process. However, the natural process operates just fine on its own. Get it?
@TheHumanbeingHuman Occam's Razor is not a method of shaving off excess reasoning, it is a method of shaving off unnecessary explanation. If we know that objects fall to the ground because of the force of gravity, it is not necessary for us to cling to a supernatural explanation of the motion of these objects. I'd hate to use the Santa Claus analogy here, but it is very fitting. We found out as children that our parents were responsible for gifts addressed to us from Santa Claus. (continued)
oops...just added the part about FBI stats to the notes..but somehow it wasn't saved in the notes...will put it there again soon, but have a class now.
@Evid3nc3 Lewy describes the moral crises caused by secular modernity&points Christianity as a bulwark against today's social ills.
In one of the largest studies of its kind on 2500 youth,the University of North Carolina showed that church attendance had a dramatic influence in reducing crime&increasing morality in over 30 behaviors. Google godandscience “Is the Teaching of Religion Really a Form of Child Abuse?”
There are moral atheist individuals...the system though reduces morality.
I enjoyed your video except for when you make the false claim about the principle of Ockham's Razor, as that method does NOT come about naturally, and if it did, then Christians can claim that they came to the belief in God via the NATURAL process of employing Ockham's Razor to the information they have been given.
Ockham's Razor, therefore is not natural. It requires logic and reason as well, which Christianity and other religions lack.
@atheistprophet5760 Christianity does not lack logic or reason at all.It was built on those concepts.God tells us explicitly to use our reason in many places&to test His promises (but there are conditions as well...no praying that you can become a serial killer, &if you are in rebellion against God in some area, then God doesn't usually intervene or make exceptions to the laws He set up). Ockham's razor was invented by a Christian&it works sometimes,but reality sometimes doesn't follow it.
What a great set! I only wish I could put my story into words like this. Not as dramatic in some areas, more in others. In the end I got out. I look at believers as having Stockholm Syndrome with a god as the captor, on a massive (global) scale. The best way I tell others to evaluate how they think, read the bible, The whole bible. Most wont even do that. They are more comfortable picking and choosing.Glossing over the bad bits, not realizing the bad bits will haunt us again and again.
"What motivating evidence did you have to think it was necessary to believe in God?" The fact that you even could ask that question demonstrates how you lost your relationship with God. Was your relationship with God even real to begin with? Your love for God was the motivating evidence. Didn't you love God? I know that there is a possibility that God doesn't exist. But it's important to me that He does. It doesn't make me blind to science. It makes me look for God in science.
well according to a test given throughout america athesist actuallyt understand christianity better than average christians scoreing quite a bit better on a test of biblical knoledge
@TheAutumnNetwork agreed - and I wish I could translate this into Spanish and send it to my family and friends in Peru. It saddens me to see how faith in God keeps a country like Peru and most of Latin America from moving forward and actually freeing themselves from the old and heavy chains of religion.
@blinknfall That is really tragic, I've been to Peru myself and I really enjoyed it there, the people are really great and I see so much potential there. It is really disheartening how much of that potential is stifled by the whole religious madness. In a way it is also the same case with the Latin/Hispanic community here in the states as well too. :/
@Evid3nc3 There are many factors influencing morality (society, peers, economics, etc.) but which worldviews enhance it or reduce it? Dr. Guenter Lewy professor emeritus of the Univ. of Massachusetts, a relativist and secular humanist decided to write a book refuting the idea that skepticism contributed to the moral decline of the United States titled Why America Doesn’t Need Religion. After much research including he was forced by the evidence to change it to “Why America Needs Religion”.
I just want to say this is amazing. I'm an atheist myself but only was really able to admit it to myself last year. Once I started trying to find the truth behind God, it came tumbling down very quickly.
Thank you very much for this stunning series. Not that I needed conversion from any religion, but your experiences and the manner in which you present them are truly impressive. In more colloquial terms: you kick ass!
You are so right. God is an extra element that seems to not exist in the natural world. Yet he is. Energy. Matter. Science has proven that. Matter/Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Energy will always be used. A desk comes from a tree, a tree can burn and release carbon dioxide, the air will absorb into a cloud. Cloud becomes precipitation. ect. In order for the big bang to happen, God must use his energy. The world has always existed, according to the Mayans this might not be the first one
@doublewhat There is absolutely no way-- NO WAY-- to start with an understanding of physical laws and, working backwards, arrive at a specific god who talks to people, intervenes in your life and cares who you sleep with (and in what position). You may assert that God is everything we don't understand, but then you can't claim to know his mind. Also, the Mayans worshipped animals and believed that the world was flat and square, resting on the back of a giant crocodile.
@doublewhat You just proved the lack of necessity of God in your own points. "Matter cannot be created nor destroyed".
Exactly. It cannot be created, to our knowledge. Something that exists, but was not created is eternal. Therefore, you do not need God to create it if it is eternal and cannot be created!
the possibillities are endless. OH ! OCCUM'S RAZOR! I assume but I don't see. the more I see, the less I believe. So I am assumming you don't believe in ghost either.
@doublewhat And no, I very much doubt anyone here believes in ghosts. Also, why would God create sin to make men fall so that some of them could get back to where they started? Couldn't a perfect God just create the finished sinless unfallen product and save some pain and time?
Your supposition that God created a fallen imperfect creation mere implies he is not all powerful nor perfect.
rape, murder, molestation are sins. But what if it was only a Sin in this human existence? What about a pre-mortal or post-human existence? Revelation says that when we get to Heaven there will be no sin, yet you will have free agency to do anything you want. Sin is just a variable. (in theory) It only matters in this world. God created sin so that we would fall in order to become better.
"That is all it takes." I've used a variant of this line too.. Although the friend I eventually deconverted handled it well because he was already very rational to begin with, I still wonder if what i did was reckless for having destroyed his faith too early (he was around 17, I was 23), too quickly (the bulk of our discussions took place on a single very long bus ride), and without thinking about the possible negative consequences.. I'm a bit more careful now.
correct me if i'm wrong but i thought "thinking" is a demon thing, of the fruit you know? I always thought god was more of the "follow me and have faith in my decisions" while the devil was "think for yourself!" so how is it possible that morality is independent of god? also I have heard that goodness is god, and that what god says goes... so isn't that the same as morality is god's meaningless expression? but since it's god's, it's got meaning?
Well put together videos! I'm watching and remembering my own experiences with christianity and the struggles with learning of how the bible was written and constructed. I get into theological discussions from time to time with family and friends who are still christians, and where I may not be as educated as you and your professor I've learned how to argue logically. I'm also careful not to attempt to destroy people's faith but I'll be even more so as it is so delicate for people.
I think what happened was that your original beliefs in God were flawed. As an athiest I think you might now have a closer understanding of what God really is. I do like your videos. I am a Christian and was a missionary for two years and have heard a lot of your arguments before.
I hope that you will manage to get rid of the subconscious guilt&punishment program that is installed in the heads of so many westerners,even atheists.
I highly recommend the swedish movie 'as it is in heaven' from 2004 directed by Kay Pollack...
it's a wonderful movie with extraordinary depth and freedom.
Thanks to you i learned how one of my methods i had used is called,when i was 14yrs. old & began to understand,that an almighty creatorgod is not needed to become a free,truthful & fully content person: Occam's Razor...fantastic Name!
I'm glad that you found a way out of the Labyrinth of the Roman Empires mind subdueing Demon raised 325.A.D. at the 1st council of Nicaea & the demons installed b4 to make people obeying hierarchies&install castes.
The Professor is Roy Hinckley.
bryanttillman 4 days ago
Congratulations for this excellent video.
Thank you for all the work you put in explaining your interesting ideas about this subject in such an engaging way.
jvgama 6 days ago
I think Evid3nc3 is a bit too optimistic that "our minds will naturally shave the unnecessary element away" ... I think Occam's razor is an active thinking process, not something passive what happens in ALL brains.
Dodec84 4 weeks ago
What if the professor is a simulacrum? :O
RomanusDigitus 4 weeks ago
You are really doing a great job. Your videos are captivating and engaging. I was lucky not to be indoctrinated as a kid but as a teen went on a personal quest for god. I read the new and old testament and it sealed the deal for me. These books had special purposes for their time but it's the stuff of antiquity.
When Professor said:"That's all it takes" he summed up his argument as well as answered your question. Once you had doubt, it broke the simulation. What an economic clever & statement.
TheRobGD 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Evid3nc3
You guys don't know who the Professor is? You must not have seen the follow up video where he gives Chris the choice between three different Pokemon.
etowncards80 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian 2
Has the Professor seen this? I wonder what he'd make of it.
ChaoticReverie1 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Ug. i just spent 1/2 hour...."Concept of God" Hooray, buddy here doesn't believe in (his own) "concept" of God.... concepts are easy enough to dismantle, especially when they are your own self-made concepts.
jackrowet1234 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@jackrowet1234
How is his concept any different from I am guess yours? I am pretty sure by watching ALL of the videos and not just half an hour worth he got a lot of what God is growing up. The guy was part of the Church for a good portion of his life. Why don't you watch from the start there buddy.
TheWinButton 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@TheWinButton I did, then commented. Concepts are concepts. All learning involves going slightly beyond concept. If you are after "The Truth" you must go beyond concept... He didn't get "a lot of God" growing up, in fact he got his own interpretation of some old mans concept of God. He then converted to a belief system based on physical evidence, logic, statistics...another adopted old-fashioned concept. Yawn.
jackrowet1234 1 month ago
This video has a very serious contradiction within it.
theartofthecovenant 2 months ago
@theartofthecovenant Do expound.
AkatsukiPR0 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@theartofthecovenant i'm curious what it is
Dodec84 2 weeks ago
@Dodec84 I'm sure if you watch and listen carefully, you'll discover it on your own. It's quite obvious. Maybe if I have the time, I'll post back on this comment with minute markers for reference. But it's my opinion that whoever created this speech, and video, like to talk more than research and study. Otherwise they would have known there was a contradiction. The efforts aren't the issue in any way. Only the message.
theartofthecovenant 2 weeks ago
@Dodec84 In my opinion, this is merely a philosophical hypothesis at best. It shouldn't be fed to the masses of less mature minded people such as children.
theartofthecovenant 2 weeks ago
After having watched basically every video on atheism on youtube (at least that's what it feels like!) I have to say that this series might be the best of its kind I've ever seen. Truly brilliant.
MikeoWar 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
This was an amazing video series, i thank you for sharing your expirience
Nameunvalid 2 months ago
I can see how one could just as easily use Occam's Razor in favor of theism. All the logical arguments for God require extra assumptions to be made by an atheist seeking to refute them. For example, which is the simpler explanation: God created the universe, or the universe came into existence through some unknown naturalistic mechanism that runs contrary to our past experience with how the world works? Playing devil's advocate here, of course.
ThatGuyWithHippyHair 2 months ago
@ThatGuyWithHippyHair The difference is in the fact that we have access to information such as physics and deductive reasoning as well as experimentation. Simply asking which one is more believable only makes a god seem like the more reasonable explanation when asked to someone who holds no information to the contrary. As you gain information on what is provable to be true, eventually any god concept suddenly becomes the unnecessary element and gets shaved away.
genobahamut1337 2 months ago
How is god creating the universe a simpler explanation? I'm not trying to be snarky, I am genuinely curious, it seems like quite the revers to me.
VetinariClone 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@VetinariClone I don't think its "simpler" , easier would be the right word.
"Woah where do all these start come from?" "God made it all for us" "ok"
MordieSG 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Evid3nc3
@ThatGuyWithHippyHair ٍSo the alternatives are: The universe came into existance through some unknown naturalistic mechanism that runs contrary to our past experience of how the world works, or the universe came into existance through some unknown supernatural being that runs contrary to our past experience of how the world works. I still think the first one is preferable.
glottidum 3 weeks ago
@Evid3nc3 you ran out of words when you arrived to 'Creation' and 'Logical Arguments' !!
that's when atheism has no 'Evid3nc3'.
YPicanda 2 months ago
@Evid3nc3
you did a very good job deconverting people into atheism
Congratulations you son of a bitch !!!
YPicanda 2 months ago
@YPicanda This guy is talking about Christianity. You either turn the other cheek or shut up muslim.
upisoft2 2 months ago
What an excellent series of videos this has been. Very well put together and narrated. Thanks for this...
r4d3rz 2 months ago
This would be a great series to show to my religious parents.
humpfry24 2 months ago
@humpfry24 fuck you and your religious parents.
YPicanda 2 months ago
@YPicanda Someone is obviously feeling insecure about their religious beliefs...
humpfry24 2 months ago
Great analogy with the closet example!
WagesofSin309 3 months ago
Occam's Razor makes me smile.
Jiaxis 3 months ago
"I can see how is it possible" for you to ignore the perfection of creation.
YPicanda 3 months ago
@YPicanda perfection of creation?
chedillychedilly1 2 months ago
@chedillychedilly1 Yes, there's no planet in space can carry the factors of life and prosper like the earth,
Who created the univers with this perfection besides God? answer that you atheist piece of fuck!
YPicanda 2 months ago
@YPicanda 1) There are likey BILLIONS of planets that harbor some form of life, if not intelligent. 2)The universe is not perfect. Most of it is filled with deadly radiation, hydrogen, or completely devoid of life... even if there are billions of life supporting planets. I'm not sure what you mean by "the factors of life." Phospholipid bilayers naturally occur in nature, along with all of the major organic molecules needed for a self replicating system to form. YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
chedillychedilly1 2 months ago
@chedillychedilly1 there are likely? so you're not sure you miserable asshold.
there is no planet like earth, and God created that perfect earth 4 us so we can live on it and worship him, that's the whole aim of our human existance, but I can't convince a thankless perverted person like you. God created your body in the best stature, and made the whole univers in perfect system for you, and what you do for thanking him? you deny his existance?!
Fuck you man !
YPicanda 2 months ago
@YPicanda Of course I'm not sure.Those are the kinds of things an intelligent, thoughtful person says, and only a moron like you would turn and use it as a point to their advantage."There is no panet like earth." And you know this how... you insufferable douchebag!The universe is a perfect system!These are the rantings of an idiot.The conservative estimation for the habitable portion of the universe is so small a decimal number that it would not beable to fit in one of these message boxes.
chedillychedilly1 2 months ago
@YPicanda If God created the universe, I honestly believe that it would be most unimpressed by people like you, who live in little-uninformed-fantasy bubbles and fail, on even a base level, to understand it. If there is an intellect that created the universe, you are about as far away from comprehending it as they come. I thank God by not pretending like I know it exists, and by learning as much as I can about reality. Oh, and ummm... "Fuck you man!" (very original, moron)
chedillychedilly1 2 months ago
@YPicanda
I'm sorry, but if the universe is "designed" for US. I would fire the engineer behind it. Even if our planet was "designed" for us, the "designer" behind it did a horrible job. 70% of this planets surface ALONE is salt water, and 98% of this planet in it's entirety is COMPLETELY uninhabitable by humans. The laws of physics and planet structure you imply were "created" for us, are the exact reason 99% of this universe "created for us" will kill life instantly.
Wiredkid1 2 months ago
Wow...just wow. I wish I could put my point across as well as you do. You are one of the most articulate "youtube atheists" I've seen up until this point.
spishcadet 3 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@spishcadet aye,he is the best with words ive ever seen. to be honest,if he wanted to,he could easily convert one of weak resolve either way. This one has power,whether he knows it or not.
werewolf873 3 months ago
Must get these videos to Christians!
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GucciRocket 3 months ago
Professor Who? (A play on Dr Who).
Great video.
CaptainGreen2008 4 months ago
This is the single most profound illustration of Occam's Razor that I've ever seen. Thank you for sharing your journey from theism to atheism. :-) (by the way, I love your voice in these narratives)
GayTempest 4 months ago
who the fuck is the professor? Morpheus?
fbonnefoy91 5 months ago 77
@fbonnefoy91 In a sense, yes. Both the professor and Morpheus recall the ideas of philosophers like Baudrillard. Baudrillard's book Simulacra and Simulation can be seen in Neo's apartment early in film. Evid3nc3 even uses a piece of music from The Matrix in the next video in this series; a fitting touch.
KaineSpawnX 1 month ago
@fbonnefoy91 Given Evid3nc3's quoting of Beaudrillard who else could he be?
Lordgaraj 1 week ago
I see your falacy. Faith = "belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." Your argument is false, because you are using logical proof and looking for material evidence to justify faith. That is a fallacy. Try again.
909pleasantville 5 months ago
@909pleasantville Actually, I do believe that's exactly his point. One cannot justify faith based on logic nor evidence because faith is neither logical nor based on reality. Faith is literally the position of suspending logic to maintain a belief in the face of contrary evidence.
Now I'm not saying this is bad or good. It's just a statement of fact. Whether faith is good or bad depends on the circumstances and particular beliefs.
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elmbn 5 months ago 6
This is a great series. 5 stars for the whole thing. Helpful and should be distributed in hotels across America.
brockwrichards 6 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian 7
I always knew what Occam's Razor was, but this video made it much more clear. Thanks for that. (The rest of the video was good too. >.>)
MrImmoli 6 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
just seems like youv had a whole other thing to deal with in life, aside from all the other shit a-theists have to deal with. well done
PSNnightmare 6 months ago
Your evidence is that there is a "natural world", which operates according to laws, implying design.
mrtruthforever 6 months ago
@mrtruthforever Design has nothing to do with it. The evidence is that there is a natural world. Look outside your window, you'll see it. The evidence is that the natural world is governed by strict and concise rules. Drop a rock. No matter how many times you drop it, it will always fall at the same rate. This is called gravity. At no point in these rules does design step in, nor intelligent processes. God doesn't make us fall by design any more than he makes planes fall out of the sky.
kurayamisidekick 5 months ago
@kurayamisidekick To quote you: "The world is governed by strict concise rules". Hmmm. So you believe that strict concise "rules" throughout the universe are oximoronically not indicative of design? Any rule is more indicative of design than non-indicative of it.
mrtruthforever 5 months ago
@mrtruthforever I believe these rules are not indicative of a design in the same way you don't assume that a wave has a wave-makes, floating somewhere at sea, making waves for you to see on the shore. To make the assumption that the laws of the universe were designed is illogical, and then assuming any particular god is the designer is a second unsupported assumption. Do you have any evidence supporting your view?
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kurayamisidekick 3 months ago
two things make me sad about this series, and it is a trend I've noticed in other atheist videos. The age of people watching this is 25 and up. I'm 21. The second is that those numbers are all males. *sigh* It seems difficult to find atheist friends my age, especially of the female kind.
StevenCasteel 6 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@StevenCasteel not true,well at least not the age part. actuley most of the people watching are much older though i myself am only 15.
werewolf873 6 months ago
@werewolf873 Google Statistics still says 25 and up for this video. But yeah, there are a few teens like yourself who have thankfully come to their senses sooner than the rest of us. :)
StevenCasteel 3 months ago
@StevenCasteel ive found others my age,others who have,through journeys of there own,come to doubt the existance of god. once i finally worked up the nerve to "come out" about my atheism they expressed there doubts to me and asked for a bit of help deciding for themselves. i helped them where i could and where i couldnt i simply told them to look for the truth,whether they wished to acknowledge it or not.
werewolf873 3 months ago
@StevenCasteel Hullo! Just to say, I'm 19 :p
However, I do feel you are right about the rational feminine presence on the 'tubes. Methinks they spend a bit less time arguing about such issues and just go on with their beliefs anyways, so they don't post often. But hey, that's just me :p
kurayamisidekick 3 months ago
@kurayamisidekick I think the social pressure from family and friends is also heavier for women.
StevenCasteel 3 months ago
@StevenCasteel I hadn't thought of that. I suppose in one way it is true, what with all religions emphasizing women's servitude to men, how they must subdue, and all that. I have no experience with that myself though, so I can't say for sure.
kurayamisidekick 3 months ago
Fewest assumptions, I think is on the side of science. Yes there are assumptions of a divine entity, but we also have assumptions such as... radiation in the atmosphere has NEVER changed (otherwise radioactive dating would be off). Science has plenty of assumptions. Hell, look at diet. We now know that meat and dairy cause cancer, yet scientists still eat meat.
There is also the assumption that what you hear in science is correct (biggest assumption there is). How do you know unless you did it
bluefootedpig 7 months ago
If morality is based upon something other than divine, just doing what is right, then you also open up that what you do right now, what you think is moral, is actually immoral. At one point, it was moral to rape women. Perfectly fine, no laws against it. Would it be moral today? nope. What about slavery? moral one day, not the next. So we can see that morality, as seen by humans, is not static either, and what is immoral today could be moral tomorrow or yesterday.
bluefootedpig 7 months ago
The Professor is perhaps one of my favourite people ever.
nicolbee 7 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian 160
@nicolbee The professor is great, but god is way cooler. You see that pic of him surfing through the sky with fingers pointed in either direction and that stern look on his face? That's pretty gnarly, you have to admit.
lldsandsll 2 months ago
some ask "who" create god to put a cap on the mental unsatisfying thoughts of infinity and pointlessness to why life starts and a ends as an individual. When in reality a who answer would explain nothing and bring more questions (ok god was create by this being, who created that being and so on) It would also bring up other question how did he created it and why.
aStrayforMyTime 7 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
This last part here is, in my opinion, the most important factor to take in when talking about religion, atheism and the human mind. Great job! It takes a few listens to fully grasp this, but it will eventually make sense to the Christians here.
zeppelin88ab 8 months ago 3
This last part here is, in my opinion, the most important factor to take in when talking about religion, atheism and the human mind. Great job!
zeppelin88ab 8 months ago
@TheARMAProductions The reason It so convincing, is because it is exactly what a sincere believer could experience when confronted with mounting evidence both in the natural world, and in their own personal experiences. As a former Christian, it smacks of authenticity to me. Although, my own personal deconversion was actually quite different...
7eardstapa7 9 months ago
Projection onto "god" of their own opinions and beliefs... Yep! And it continues on today!
TuboEspectador 9 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
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youneekk 9 months ago
i find it odd that this professor wrote that comment om Amazon.com. It just doesn't seem like the same person you wrote all those e-mails.
AbbeyNO 9 months ago
although this is very thorough, it seems that it doesn't have to be this deep. most people if not 90 percent of people would not think this hard about it. and i feel that it should only take at best two problems with religion or that one religion for somebody to falter.
prplehrt120 9 months ago
@prplehrt120 Actually you'd be wrong even though what you say makes perfect sense. I was a Mormon for 12 years and it took just about every last string to be cut away before I was able to leave my religion and lose my faith in God and Mormonism. If you intertwine religious beliefs with your own identity, you pretty much have to be shown in every way possible that God simply may just not exist.
KenM66 9 months ago
Evid3nc3, I noticed something... in 3:28 why is P stated as being from 700 BCE, when in the History of God part 1 video, P is described as the first fully monotheistic source that happened AFTER the deuteronomistr source D which happened during the reign of King Josiah in 622 BCE?
SerbAtheist 9 months ago
You portray this professor as a lingual, rational, controlled, wise man, yet you caught him trolling the Bible on Amazon.com haha. It's not that I doubt your lifestory, I just found that funny. Everyone trolls every now and then.
TheLivirus 9 months ago 3
@mrsmarter12 What you're describing is deism. I think you're saying that you can't disbelieve in God due to the fact that you don't see a way you can believe that everything had just created itself with nobody helping to start the process. However, this doesn't help to conform any one denomination or set of principles does it? It is possible that the universe could have just always existed. It isn't a good thing to think this way, because then you have to think something created God.
KenM66 9 months ago
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@mrsmarter12 why "someone"? Why not "something"? And how does putting god in the equation answer anything? If god made it, then who made god? To quote you "someone had to of created him."
infinite loop commence
CingerNebojsa 9 months ago
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CingerNebojsa 9 months ago
@mrsmarter12 First answer who created God.
Now, apply that answer to the question you posted.
There ya go.
CingerNebojsa 9 months ago 38
@CingerNebojsa Ask whos asking the question... and whos asking that one, and that one and that one, that one, 1,1,1,1,.....
jackrowet1234 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
I have a friend just like this guy, went to a emotional pentecostal freak show where music is used abused and worshiped, he answered the alter call and called himself a Christian, the bible is very clear, once your sins have been forgiven Jesus must reside in your heart, if not then you will not return back to your former self but 7 times worse, Mathew 12;43-45. or 2Peter 2:20. Everything Evid3nc3 has come up with is in the bible, close but no (Christian) cigar
outbackcafe 9 months ago
I watched all the videos to the end, and what stood out for me is this guy thought speaking in tongues made him a christian, the bible says tongues will cease, 1Cor13:18, unfortunately the Pentecostals are notorious for emphasizing speaking in tongues, experiences need to be judged by the bible and not the other way round, my friend is into witchcraft and he can speak in tongues, , sounds like this dude simply made a emotional decision something the Pentecostals are known for.
outbackcafe 9 months ago
@outbackcafe Sounds like God hardened your heart just like Pharoah's. Evid3nc3 gives numerous examples of how he was a Christian.
With all the different definitions I have heard Christians give, there really are no true Christians. Good thing the Christian God made this religion so clear to us all.
GodownEd1 9 months ago
@GodownEd1 "Evid3nc3 gives numerous examples of how he was a Christian." you're right he did give numerous examples although nothing of any substance, it takes one to know one, Evid3nc3 had every answer at his finger tips if he really wanted top know. The truth is he belonged to the same religion Benny Hin does, fake miracles and fake speaking in tongues, enough said. Sounds like God has hardened your heart
outbackcafe 9 months ago
The noise in the cupboard analogy was fascinating, an excellent tool to help demonstrate Ockham's Razor in the context of the lack of evidence for religious beliefs. Nicely done sir
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p34cekeeper 10 months ago 2
@TheHumanbeingHuman god is dead
DyfnalltDH 10 months ago
@farzero christianity is bull shit but islam is much worst. mohamed nd his imaginary friend(alah) nd shit, is just stupid. if after you read the qoran u still belive in it, then u need some serious help.
nellisonking 10 months ago
I would suggest looking into islam. The Quran will answer all your questions about life. The bible is historically distorted. Prayer is not for getting things or changing things, it's for the sole purpose of loving God. Science and God are one, also in Quran. To say that Morality exists independent of God's say holds no ground because God created everything, even morality. God can make 2+2=5 if he so desired. God is complex. God wants you to question, that's in the Quran. God's reaching for you.
farzero 10 months ago
Maybe you'll read what i'm saying and provide many counter arguements, but that's not my goal to convert you. I'm merely trying to tell you something. Chris, I used to be Christian too, to a certain extent, and then I lost hope. You will agree with me that having that "God feeling" in your life is amazing man. Close your eyes and try to remember that feeling bro, it's in there, inside your heart; I can tell in your voice. Go to a mosque man. Reading the Quran won't sway you. Immerse yourself!
farzero 10 months ago
@farzero "The Quran will answer all your questions about life"
like "How should women be treated?"
what about "What should we do with those who believe something else?"
stiimuli 10 months ago
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alysdexia 10 months ago
@farzero @farzero for anyone who believes in -islààm:
1000mistakes;
The Hagarene Teaching;
Skeptic's Annotated Quran.
The first two are in the list at google.com/groups?q=%22Warfare+by+Autymn%22
alysdexia 10 months ago
great video. God isn't real
KenM66 10 months ago
but they lost many of their people to the polytheistic Greek religion due to it offering an afterlife. To compete and stop Hebrews from converting they added in an afterlife into the belief system. This worked, and Jews stopped converting to the more popular Greek religion. The other thing that really shook my faith was the BBC production God on Trial, in which Jews in a concentration camp put god on trial and come to the conclusion that god isn't good, and he has abandoned them. Peace out.
Rabbitthateats 10 months ago
Hey, really interesting listening. I de-converted a while ago. For me it was more sudden, I watched a documentary on the history of Judaism, and it explained how the Jews borrowed the Canaanite gods and appropriated them, until they reduced it to a single god: El Elyon or Yahweh, but there are still references in other early Jewish texts to the other gods, like Asherah. The other aspect is that early Judaism had no afterlife, no heaven or hell, merely a code to do good and be wise in this life
Rabbitthateats 10 months ago
No, "God doesnt answer intercessory prayer or there simply is no God" is a false dichotomy fallacy. To be perfectly honest, these are elementary theological questions that any amateur familiar with basic theology can answer.
AegeanKing 10 months ago
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Sad that you lost ur faith in God. How do you explain-Good& evil doing/right & wrong? If we never had rules to go by then, how do we know if something is wrong or right? We naturally know even as a kid if we have done wrong or right. If we didn't then no 1 would ever feel bad or happy. Don't tell me that somewhere in my brain I just amage it was wrong or right. Some1 had to set the law down & I believe it was God because no 1 has the ability to make a Planet. We can mock him only.Belive
1me2b4u 11 months ago
Sad that you lost ur faith in God. How do you explain-Good& evil doing/right & wrong? If we never had rules to go by then, how do we know if something is wrong or right? We naturally know even as a kid if we have done wrong or right. If we didn't then no 1 would ever feel bad or happy. Don't tell me that somewhere in my brain I just amage it was wrong or right. Some1 had to set the law down & I believe it was God because no 1 has the ability to make a Planet or time. We can mock him only.Belive
1me2b4u 11 months ago
@1me2b4u Good/Evil are human constructs made to classify events based on their outcome and underlying motives.
A child can't tell good from bad, it learns through trail and error. The child tends to get rewarded for good behavior and punished for bad behavior and the brain makes these connections which will give you a sense of reward whenever you do something good aside from people thanking you etc.
Second, you're asking the wrong question, why should it be a who? Why not a what?
88gertjan88 11 months ago
Sad that you lost ur faith in God. How do you explain-Good& evil doing/right & wrong? If we never had rules to go by then, how do we know if something is wrong or right? We naturally know even as a kid if we have done wrong or right. If we didn't then no 1 would ever feel bad or happy. Don't tell me that somewhere in my brain I just amage it was wrong or right. Some1 had to set the law down & I believe it was God because no 1 has the ability to make a Planet or time. We can mock him only.Belive!
1me2b4u 11 months ago
@TheHumanbeingHuman We live our lives. Focus on the precious time we have in this world and try not to hold society back. When I die I'll probably just rot in the ground, my consciousness having blinked out, and only live on in the memories of loved ones. I could be wrong. God could exist. I just have little or no reason to believe it. And if I die where God exists, then I will receive whatever punishment he believes is just. I imagine he and I would disagree on it, though.
ignus12324 11 months ago
Geez... now I have to ask myself, what is my foundation for believing in God? What is my foundation in believing anything? haha... I guess because I find it in myself like an echo. God doesn't need to exist according to what we know now, but I don't totally disagree with the bible... even the genocide that takes place.
Isn't Occam's Razor an unconscious process that we naturally tend to do?
chrisdryer 11 months ago
Thanks. I learnt 2 terms Simulacrum and Occam's Razor from your videos. Appreciate it :)
srikargottipati 11 months ago
54 retards who didn't like the video LOL
srikargottipati 11 months ago
You, my new friend, are brilliant. This entire series so far has been scintillating - you're tackling a much tackled issue from a completely different perspective and it is, in my opinion, extremely efficient.
thabood 11 months ago
Once we made this discovery, most of us reached the conclusion that Santa Claus is a myth. We didn't posit that Santa Claus must still exist, and just works through our parents in some nebulous spiritual sense. Yet that is exactly what the religious do with God. We supplant a supernatural explanation for a phenomenon with a natural one, and the believers defeat this by saying that God works through this natural process. However, the natural process operates just fine on its own. Get it?
KillerXCable 11 months ago
@TheHumanbeingHuman Occam's Razor is not a method of shaving off excess reasoning, it is a method of shaving off unnecessary explanation. If we know that objects fall to the ground because of the force of gravity, it is not necessary for us to cling to a supernatural explanation of the motion of these objects. I'd hate to use the Santa Claus analogy here, but it is very fitting. We found out as children that our parents were responsible for gifts addressed to us from Santa Claus. (continued)
KillerXCable 11 months ago
someone should set the professor loose on shirley phelps-roper
skiteam14 1 year ago
oops...just added the part about FBI stats to the notes..but somehow it wasn't saved in the notes...will put it there again soon, but have a class now.
TruthIsLife7 1 year ago
@Evid3nc3 Lewy describes the moral crises caused by secular modernity&points Christianity as a bulwark against today's social ills.
In one of the largest studies of its kind on 2500 youth,the University of North Carolina showed that church attendance had a dramatic influence in reducing crime&increasing morality in over 30 behaviors. Google godandscience “Is the Teaching of Religion Really a Form of Child Abuse?”
There are moral atheist individuals...the system though reduces morality.
TruthIsLife7 1 year ago
I enjoyed your video except for when you make the false claim about the principle of Ockham's Razor, as that method does NOT come about naturally, and if it did, then Christians can claim that they came to the belief in God via the NATURAL process of employing Ockham's Razor to the information they have been given.
Ockham's Razor, therefore is not natural. It requires logic and reason as well, which Christianity and other religions lack.
atheistprophet5760 1 year ago
@atheistprophet5760 Christianity does not lack logic or reason at all.It was built on those concepts.God tells us explicitly to use our reason in many places&to test His promises (but there are conditions as well...no praying that you can become a serial killer, &if you are in rebellion against God in some area, then God doesn't usually intervene or make exceptions to the laws He set up). Ockham's razor was invented by a Christian&it works sometimes,but reality sometimes doesn't follow it.
TruthIsLife7 1 year ago
I enjoy the fact that, whether purposefully or not, the network illustration resembles the star of David.
Nibmeister 1 year ago
Holy crap, The Professor is GOD! All hail The Professor!
LoxNBagels 1 year ago
@LoxNBagels Now that's a twist. Somewhere in the world, shyamalan sneezes.
SpriterShard 11 months ago
What a great set! I only wish I could put my story into words like this. Not as dramatic in some areas, more in others. In the end I got out. I look at believers as having Stockholm Syndrome with a god as the captor, on a massive (global) scale. The best way I tell others to evaluate how they think, read the bible, The whole bible. Most wont even do that. They are more comfortable picking and choosing.Glossing over the bad bits, not realizing the bad bits will haunt us again and again.
pumpstations 1 year ago
"What motivating evidence did you have to think it was necessary to believe in God?" The fact that you even could ask that question demonstrates how you lost your relationship with God. Was your relationship with God even real to begin with? Your love for God was the motivating evidence. Didn't you love God? I know that there is a possibility that God doesn't exist. But it's important to me that He does. It doesn't make me blind to science. It makes me look for God in science.
SmartAlx 1 year ago
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One of the best human achievements ever!
s3kan 1 year ago
well according to a test given throughout america athesist actuallyt understand christianity better than average christians scoreing quite a bit better on a test of biblical knoledge
lonewolfM16 1 year ago
Dude you should compile this into a single dvd or something, I would totally buy this!
TheAutumnNetwork 1 year ago
@TheAutumnNetwork agreed - and I wish I could translate this into Spanish and send it to my family and friends in Peru. It saddens me to see how faith in God keeps a country like Peru and most of Latin America from moving forward and actually freeing themselves from the old and heavy chains of religion.
blinknfall 1 year ago
@blinknfall That is really tragic, I've been to Peru myself and I really enjoyed it there, the people are really great and I see so much potential there. It is really disheartening how much of that potential is stifled by the whole religious madness. In a way it is also the same case with the Latin/Hispanic community here in the states as well too. :/
TheAutumnNetwork 1 year ago
@Evid3nc3 There are many factors influencing morality (society, peers, economics, etc.) but which worldviews enhance it or reduce it? Dr. Guenter Lewy professor emeritus of the Univ. of Massachusetts, a relativist and secular humanist decided to write a book refuting the idea that skepticism contributed to the moral decline of the United States titled Why America Doesn’t Need Religion. After much research including he was forced by the evidence to change it to “Why America Needs Religion”.
TruthIsLife7 1 year ago
Kudos to you, sir.
zaSpeaker 1 year ago
I just want to say this is amazing. I'm an atheist myself but only was really able to admit it to myself last year. Once I started trying to find the truth behind God, it came tumbling down very quickly.
animegirl20 1 year ago
Thank you very much for this stunning series. Not that I needed conversion from any religion, but your experiences and the manner in which you present them are truly impressive. In more colloquial terms: you kick ass!
zottejakke3 1 year ago
WOW
I'm stunned!
Occam's razor is the exact thought process I went through!
cheeseit126 1 year ago
"That is all it takes."
This is perfect. This was the exact end of my faith, the turning point when my eyes opened.
cheeseit126 1 year ago 2
Perfectly beautiful.
SuperJasontheman 1 year ago 2
I was an athiest when I found these videos but never have I seen my own journey explained so clearly and aptly. Thank you for the series.
impudence429 1 year ago
You are so right. God is an extra element that seems to not exist in the natural world. Yet he is. Energy. Matter. Science has proven that. Matter/Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Energy will always be used. A desk comes from a tree, a tree can burn and release carbon dioxide, the air will absorb into a cloud. Cloud becomes precipitation. ect. In order for the big bang to happen, God must use his energy. The world has always existed, according to the Mayans this might not be the first one
doublewhat 1 year ago
@doublewhat Your argument makes no sense after the "Yet he is" part.
LapinPete 1 year ago
@doublewhat There is absolutely no way-- NO WAY-- to start with an understanding of physical laws and, working backwards, arrive at a specific god who talks to people, intervenes in your life and cares who you sleep with (and in what position). You may assert that God is everything we don't understand, but then you can't claim to know his mind. Also, the Mayans worshipped animals and believed that the world was flat and square, resting on the back of a giant crocodile.
DocBlasto 1 year ago 22
@doublewhat You just proved the lack of necessity of God in your own points. "Matter cannot be created nor destroyed".
Exactly. It cannot be created, to our knowledge. Something that exists, but was not created is eternal. Therefore, you do not need God to create it if it is eternal and cannot be created!
Logic ftw.
AnonymousAscendent 9 months ago
the possibillities are endless. OH ! OCCUM'S RAZOR! I assume but I don't see. the more I see, the less I believe. So I am assumming you don't believe in ghost either.
doublewhat 1 year ago
@doublewhat And no, I very much doubt anyone here believes in ghosts. Also, why would God create sin to make men fall so that some of them could get back to where they started? Couldn't a perfect God just create the finished sinless unfallen product and save some pain and time?
Your supposition that God created a fallen imperfect creation mere implies he is not all powerful nor perfect.
AnonymousAscendent 9 months ago
rape, murder, molestation are sins. But what if it was only a Sin in this human existence? What about a pre-mortal or post-human existence? Revelation says that when we get to Heaven there will be no sin, yet you will have free agency to do anything you want. Sin is just a variable. (in theory) It only matters in this world. God created sin so that we would fall in order to become better.
doublewhat 1 year ago
You've convinced me there is no God, but you haven't convinced me there wasn't an animal there!
Joerexia 1 year ago 2
"That is all it takes." I've used a variant of this line too.. Although the friend I eventually deconverted handled it well because he was already very rational to begin with, I still wonder if what i did was reckless for having destroyed his faith too early (he was around 17, I was 23), too quickly (the bulk of our discussions took place on a single very long bus ride), and without thinking about the possible negative consequences.. I'm a bit more careful now.
mykeBC 1 year ago
wow!!! no God??? how about UFO? Allien from other planets? i beth they are real...hahahaha..
kulyaki69 1 year ago
Thank you for these. I've watched them all, and most of them multiple times. They are excellent.
bjjolley 1 year ago
correct me if i'm wrong but i thought "thinking" is a demon thing, of the fruit you know? I always thought god was more of the "follow me and have faith in my decisions" while the devil was "think for yourself!" so how is it possible that morality is independent of god? also I have heard that goodness is god, and that what god says goes... so isn't that the same as morality is god's meaningless expression? but since it's god's, it's got meaning?
blazearmoru 1 year ago
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blazearmoru 1 year ago
Well put together videos! I'm watching and remembering my own experiences with christianity and the struggles with learning of how the bible was written and constructed. I get into theological discussions from time to time with family and friends who are still christians, and where I may not be as educated as you and your professor I've learned how to argue logically. I'm also careful not to attempt to destroy people's faith but I'll be even more so as it is so delicate for people.
jrr577 1 year ago 3
whats the music theme at the beginning? o.o and whats the theme of that song's name? o.o
blazearmoru 1 year ago
@blazearmoru I think the music at the beginning is "Somsuey" by "The Panoply Academy."
briand769 1 year ago
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blazearmoru 1 year ago
I think what happened was that your original beliefs in God were flawed. As an athiest I think you might now have a closer understanding of what God really is. I do like your videos. I am a Christian and was a missionary for two years and have heard a lot of your arguments before.
micahstubz 1 year ago
Proof, and evidence, accurate, and correct indeed sir.
BlakeLBoggs 1 year ago
I know it isn't the spirit of what you intend but I actually got goosebumps when the words "The End" came up.
I saw a world without religion and it briefly made me feel as though it could be true someday.
stevenweir76 1 year ago 2
You shaved the cat with the razor! :D
ProfessorMacintosh 1 year ago
This series is so freakin amazing. Thanks for doing it.
bdwilson1000 1 year ago
I hope that you will manage to get rid of the subconscious guilt&punishment program that is installed in the heads of so many westerners,even atheists.
I highly recommend the swedish movie 'as it is in heaven' from 2004 directed by Kay Pollack...
it's a wonderful movie with extraordinary depth and freedom.
agnostoatomo 1 year ago
Thanks to you i learned how one of my methods i had used is called,when i was 14yrs. old & began to understand,that an almighty creatorgod is not needed to become a free,truthful & fully content person: Occam's Razor...fantastic Name!
I'm glad that you found a way out of the Labyrinth of the Roman Empires mind subdueing Demon raised 325.A.D. at the 1st council of Nicaea & the demons installed b4 to make people obeying hierarchies&install castes.
agnostoatomo 1 year ago
@BornWhiteSupremacy ahahah too bad your utube name wont let me take you seriously.
bltnxkrw 1 year ago 2
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DutchNordic 1 year ago
Try and research what each marker is and then try to figure out how acurate this prohpecy is. i'll pray for you man...
29Frost29 1 year ago
@29Frost29 I saw a church sign yesterday, it said "Pray until something happens". Do you agree with that?
archbob1 1 year ago