@airsoftdrummer101 its Gone too far, a clone. not acclaim. just thought youd like to know that :) not bashing on ya, i used to think he said it too lol
Gonna be honest here, I love the Rev's voice, his INSANE drumming talents, everything. But we being his fans, he wouldn't want us to mourn constantly. Move on, it's what he would've wanted.
I'd like to be able to watch an A7X video without seeing all the sad comments.
I know it's kind of superficial... But I must say I absolutely adore the way Syn looks in this video (especially). I mean everybody looks great, but Synyster kind of stands out for me.
" Jimmy Jumped Into Life And Never Hit The Bottom .. "
We Love You Jimmy, May You Be Blessed Into The Gates Of Heaven .. May God Hold You In The Palm Of His Hands And Let Your Wings Spread And Fly Wherever You Want Them .. You Are Now Free ..
I will be disappointed in A7X cause the rev was a HUGE part of it not only instrumentally but the narrator in some songs and the amount of song writing he did but thus i will still listen to A7X because they're still awesome
i know i'm gonna be hated, but c'mon, just because jimmy is dead doesn't mean his vocals are awesome. he sounds just like the average screaming man. i respect the guy and all, but just beucase he's dead doesn't mean you should all worship him.
@JohnTheRipper2 I didn't realize he was screaming.... Nah, that was singing, I'm almost certain of it, and it's amazing, I thought that when he was alive as well so :P
@JohnTheRipper2 Check out some other songs. Check out A Litttle Piece Of Heaven at LBC. His Vocals are good. Yeah, hes not thaaat much of a singer but you can like it. I do so !! ;-)
@JohnTheRipper2 gotta remember here,that hes been playing the drums, and then is singing, takes a lotta effort,and its more just how his vocals contrasts with shadows, that make it awesome
the lyrics are "I've had enough its time for something real, don't respect the words you're speaking, gone too far, A CLONE!". its not acclaim, read the lyrics book before you think u know the words ! why would the rev sing the wrong words to his own bands song :S. R.I.P The Rev we will love u foREVer :'(
Everybody messes up every now and then. On stage or not, you can't dog them because they messed up some lyrics when you've probably done worse. Personally, i think The Rev sounded great. This hard rock band, unlike many others, sounds great live.
Just wanna set this straight about the Rev's part in the chorus, It's; "Telling them its all for something real, don't respect the words you're speaking, gone too far. Acclaim!"
@Jhon117100 Have u actually listened to the studio version? You can clearly hear him say "telling them its all for something real dont respect the words you're speaking gone too far acclaim"
why is the recorded version and the live version different, they dont sing the thing bout the kid after the rev sings the chorus, they just say hey a bunch of times, not hating, jw, plz explain!
I think its because its usually the first song they play and its a way of pumping the crowd up and that bit in the song is quite hard to sing live under one breath :P
and the bit at the end is different because...well idk but its awesome :D
@taylorcdabomb Well for starters, the scream that comes in at the end of that part would be hard to pull off after all that talking. Also, it gets the crowd a lot more pumped up to chant along with M Shadows. Another reason might be just for the simple fact that not everyone wants to go to a live show and hear a band play the song exactly like it is on the album. A little variety is always nice.
@taylorcdabomb It's because that part of the song in the studio version doesn't really go to the beat of the song. Therefore it's too likely that M. Shadows timing could get off like anybody's would. Besides, it's a great way to pump up the crowd. :)
@b4evrsc3n3 Shows that people think the lead singer and the guitar are the only important part of a song. take out the drums and the bass and listen to it.
they should have shown the rev more in this, not saying the other shouldent be shown theyre awsome but the rev isnt shown enough, but i still love avenged sevenfold. would have been better if the rev stayed tho :( but i love 2:24 syn lol
On December 28th (before if you can't make it) we will all watch "Nightmare" in honor of the greatest drummer ever glory. Let's give him the best present ever: the highest viewed video on YouTube!! Let's give him what he deserves and what Justin Beiber does not deserve to have!
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You have to respect them they must be very tired to play and sing their heart out everyday not including practice! But they still get out there and play for the fans that just shows how awesome they are!!!! The rev deserves to be shown while singing he works very hard to play the drums and do that awesome singing! Hate that you died rev! 100% respect and love to you and your friends and family!!!!!! Thumbs up if you like my insane long comment!! lol
ok fuck these cameramen, they think that the only people playing are the vocals and guitars!!! goddamnit when M Zacky Ans Sin sing there all over that shit but when god forbid the DRUMMER sings its comepletely unimportant.... damnit, and as a drumer myself i seriously want to beat some ass
@Citatmaskinen you would think that, but is actually a clone not acclaim.... i used to think that too, i can't even justify how "a clone" makes sense in the context of the lyrical theme but those are the lyrics.
@airsoftdrummer101 its Gone too far, a clone. not acclaim. just thought youd like to know that :) not bashing on ya, i used to think he said it too lol
K3WP 5 days ago
REV part is best !!! R.I.P
slovak66panther 1 week ago
Not only did we lose a great drummer, but a brilliant, one of a kind voice!
IKnowAGhosTV 1 week ago
Telling them it's all for something real
Don't respect the words you're speaking
Gone too far, acclaim!!
We miss you REV!!!! REST IN PEACE WE LOVE YOU
airsoftdrummer101 1 week ago
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@airsoftdrummer101 a CLONE, not acclaim :)
TheMattB14 1 day ago
:fapfapfap:
brayx100 1 week ago
the first scream is just perfect
cyberwy 3 weeks ago
Needs more visuals of Jimmy :) ♥♥♥foREVer♥♥♥
MelindaPSL333 3 weeks ago
Mister Rev, happy birthday .. <3 R.I.P
Lickap 3 weeks ago
Gonna be honest here, I love the Rev's voice, his INSANE drumming talents, everything. But we being his fans, he wouldn't want us to mourn constantly. Move on, it's what he would've wanted.
I'd like to be able to watch an A7X video without seeing all the sad comments.
benbrewer98 1 month ago
:(( the rev is freakin amazing we all miss you!
ICRAVE3DAYSGRACE 1 month ago
What concert is this??
StrykeEvil 1 month ago
@StrykeEvil Graspop Festival 2008
GDeskm 3 weeks ago
4 people pissed me off
ghrbman96 1 month ago
its songs like this is why i love A7X
JaddiRoo 1 month ago
VAI CARAI AVENGED PORRA o//
wolflink06041992 1 month ago
Telling them its all for something real, dont respect the words your speaking, gone too far, acclaim.
foREVer shall he be with us.
The Reverend Tholomew Plague
Ghosteye117 1 month ago
@Ghosteye117 its a clone btw not acclaim
AllHopeIsGone88 1 month ago
forever! rock on! \m/
mj21529 2 months ago
foREVer
ZHX009 2 months ago
2:02 Shadows saw a hater.
YellowDrumstick 2 months ago
this is song is very fuck !!
EstrongMiley 2 months ago
The awesomness of this song makes my day!
I know it's kind of superficial... But I must say I absolutely adore the way Syn looks in this video (especially). I mean everybody looks great, but Synyster kind of stands out for me.
0oHelenaxX 2 months ago
what he says in the end of the phrase? how the fuck we doin this afternoon .....?
gabriel159753159753 3 months ago
最高!!!!
yamakai8010 3 months ago
m shadows could scream for a long time.:)
Lazyboy10100 3 months ago
M shadows is so fucking cool
JoeBetts92 3 months ago 14
@JoeBetts92 ikr but he shaved all jis hair off in the video for seize the day :o
the3rdclone 1 week ago
EARGASM :Q__________________
MissGatillo787 3 months ago
I mean that they weren't as good this time genreally The Revs voice is amazing in this vid everyones kinda off
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♥ R.I.P ♥
James Owen Sullivan / Jimmy " The Rev " Sullivan.
February 9th 1981 - December 28th 2009
" Jimmy Jumped Into Life And Never Hit The Bottom .. "
We Love You Jimmy, May You Be Blessed Into The Gates Of Heaven .. May God Hold You In The Palm Of His Hands And Let Your Wings Spread And Fly Wherever You Want Them .. You Are Now Free ..
Love,
All Your Fans, Friends, And Family.
❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
UkeTeacup 3 months ago
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UkeTeacup 3 months ago
2:24 <3 Syn is amazing
TheReverend151 3 months ago
Whoa Zacky messed up pretty bad 4:07 listen closely when he tries to harmonize with Syn
sushiking56 3 months ago
@sushiking56 i don't think so, maybe he tried to harmonize with other scale, if u listen, it doesn't sound dissonant
sorry for my english xD
destt8 3 months ago
@destt8 hmmmm i guess so =/
sushiking56 2 months ago
Is it me or Syn's guitar look weird ?
HafizulNaim 3 months ago
@HafizulNaim yea looks weird but its the coolest schecter custom out there :D
Bj0RNare 3 months ago
"So how does it feel to know that someones kid in the heart of America
Has blood on their hands, fighting to defend your rights
So you can maintain the lifestyle that insults this family's existence
Well, where I'm from we have a special salute we aim high in the air
Towards all those pompous assholes who spend their days pointing fingers"
Did they skip this bit? fucken good sound, just discovered them, blown away by the voice. Now i read he's dead? wtf?I think I missed the boat here.
corpsetime 3 months ago
The rev was a bit flat on his vocals
ProfessionalAsian1 3 months ago
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@ProfessionalAsian1
Fuck you!! He was great, the others suck :| You have really bad hearing. Don't you dare dis respect The Rev mother fucker! _|_
UkeTeacup 3 months ago
LOL syn at 2:24!!
11tjray 3 months ago
Only 100k views? Am i the only one watching this?
cripplemancrips 3 months ago
why didnt justin bieber die instead of the rev :(?
killstriker10 3 months ago
i dont like when shadows screams, hes too good of a singer
chan12898 3 months ago
i have to give credit to these people syn gates: nasty pinch harmonics The rev: awesome screaming M.shadows.: Good screaming
avery1817 3 months ago
I will be disappointed in A7X cause the rev was a HUGE part of it not only instrumentally but the narrator in some songs and the amount of song writing he did but thus i will still listen to A7X because they're still awesome
redbullandwowROCK 3 months ago
I love the way Syn sticks his tongue out at the beginning. like "I got this, I got this, I know I got this..."
LWalton93 4 months ago
thumbs up if you think jimmy is playing drumms in heaven!
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DRFT5 4 months ago
i know i'm gonna be hated, but c'mon, just because jimmy is dead doesn't mean his vocals are awesome. he sounds just like the average screaming man. i respect the guy and all, but just beucase he's dead doesn't mean you should all worship him.
JohnTheRipper2 4 months ago
@JohnTheRipper2 I didn't realize he was screaming.... Nah, that was singing, I'm almost certain of it, and it's amazing, I thought that when he was alive as well so :P
LWalton93 4 months ago
@JohnTheRipper2 Check out some other songs. Check out A Litttle Piece Of Heaven at LBC. His Vocals are good. Yeah, hes not thaaat much of a singer but you can like it. I do so !! ;-)
XxXChefkochXxX 3 months ago
@JohnTheRipper2 gotta remember here,that hes been playing the drums, and then is singing, takes a lotta effort,and its more just how his vocals contrasts with shadows, that make it awesome
velenvskaelhas 3 months ago
4 people miss the thumbs up buttom... pay attention next time guys :D A7X don't deserve the DISLIKE buttom. :D
GunxD12 4 months ago
F*Ck you For A7X haters ....
all like A7X
and R.I.P JImmy..owen sullivan
we all miss you
YUSACHEATERS 4 months ago
fvck that guitar PLAYING syn :bd
jczerofour 4 months ago
Want to by ticket for a concert... More than EVER now!!!
2703Susann 4 months ago
I wish Shads would do the speaking part, it's awesome.
THEST0N3RKID 4 months ago
@metallicaman31130 Yes! The Rev was an awesome vocalist but I must admit it... He's voice is not a voice that i've heard before.. but I love it! :D
streetconviction 4 months ago
This is a very nice performence. maybe Jimmy did'nt like to be on film, but i'm still pissed off About it! =)
IsakEngstroms 4 months ago
I'm going to fuck Sinister Gates. Whether he likes it or not...
DyeRiot 4 months ago 3
This is the best versio! ! !! !
321finland321 4 months ago in playlist 75 A7x
shhh be quiet you might piss somebody off!
GraceJonesBoiis 4 months ago 2
RULES!
llllukaz 4 months ago
Jimmy had the most unique voice! I only wish we could have heard more! RIP The Rev!
CharlotteLately 4 months ago 2
whats up with syn's guitar??
bmanschaaf 4 months ago
wow i thought that was vin diesel for a while, Matt is hugee!
Skatolotodo 4 months ago
they should release a live album with this song from this axact place.
p.s. really like that riff @ 1:47, etc
austinpowersJR1 4 months ago in playlist austinpowersJR1's favorites
anybody notice the rev is the other person singing. :D
phhw1 4 months ago
@phhw1 they didn't really show him this time though...if you don't know them you'd wonder whose voice that was lol ;p
viki36912 4 months ago
yumm m shadows ;) ... one of my favorite songs by a7x
BethyPopp16 4 months ago
EARGASM!
TheAvengeddonut 4 months ago
why is there tape on syn's guitar?
Mrthatguy295 4 months ago
synysteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer <3
MolkoLady 5 months ago
Thumbs up for The Rev's Vocals!
R.I.P Jimmy Owen "The Rev" Sullivan.. we all miss you.
streetconviction 5 months ago 161
awesome guitar riff @ 1:47
p.s, the singers great, why does he need computers to change his voice?
austinpowersJR1 5 months ago
@austinpowersJR1 um he doesnt
james12436 5 months ago
@austinpowersJR1 those are all the other bandmates singing
dbizzytrick 5 months ago
@austinpowersJR1 yeah..he doesn't. that's all him. amazing isn't it !!! ;dd
viki36912 4 months ago
awesome guitar riff @ 1:47
austinpowersJR1 5 months ago
Why isn't their a music video for this?
wwedrost 5 months ago
how much i would pay for
for that banner to be hanging in my room
thenightshroud77 5 months ago
Guitars need to be louder
Narumi4918 5 months ago
can anyone tell me why gates has tape on his guitar??
Benztownrider 5 months ago
yeah!!!XD
buttersmern 5 months ago
Jimmy:) <3
MriLoveA7X 6 months ago
its so quiet!!
meeetallicaaaa 6 months ago
mea!....
brainremoval1 6 months ago
O_o omg the rev is there thumps up if you saw him but he died at 2009 O_o help me some 1
SirValkinPunch 6 months ago
@SirValkinPunch the upload date was probably late.
slaytheweakxx 6 months ago 6
@SirValkinPunch yeah...this must be an old video
viki36912 4 months ago
i hate to say but the rev has a better voice then m.shads
rockysbetter99 6 months ago
fucking awesome
Knee212 6 months ago
I love the sound of Jimmys voice is sooo Awesome!!!
R.I.P Jimmy!!! Always the best die young!!! :(
littleJoey619 6 months ago 63
@littleJoey619 he was the singer in other band i heard...
Skatolotodo 4 months ago
i love the sound of jimmy's voice when he sings its like a angel kisses my eardrums
hollywoodundeadful 6 months ago 2
what a lame crowd if u compare with stockholm which facility could bring in up to 2500.. /watch?v=-DSoo9_9tjM&feature=related
PS. AVENGED SEVENFOLD F***ING RULES!
Aerdennis 6 months ago
They don't even show the rev during his chorus
SheWasStinkyNigga 6 months ago
Did anyone else notice the rev start being a baddass and play one handed at one point
AndrewGram 6 months ago
That picture is my display picture on facebook =D
spamuel44 7 months ago
his kind of thing makes me have orgasms.... FUCK YEAAH!!!
NOMEJUDASCARAJUS 7 months ago
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That's my face expression when I look at Syn, Matt, Zacky and Johnny!;)
sAnias2000 7 months ago
@12rockerchic haha easy there gene simmons
sonor503503 7 months ago
Jimmy <3
130VOLT 7 months ago
Sometimes shadows just look like Vin Diesel, i think so.
rafadrift307 7 months ago
come to isreal :)
imblueimblueful 7 months ago
2 people dont have lives
1097monster 7 months ago
oooh, i got a chill when he said FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!
syngervice67 7 months ago
the lyrics are "I've had enough its time for something real, don't respect the words you're speaking, gone too far, A CLONE!". its not acclaim, read the lyrics book before you think u know the words ! why would the rev sing the wrong words to his own bands song :S. R.I.P The Rev we will love u foREVer :'(
pkpkpkpk96 7 months ago
Everybody messes up every now and then. On stage or not, you can't dog them because they messed up some lyrics when you've probably done worse. Personally, i think The Rev sounded great. This hard rock band, unlike many others, sounds great live.
ILovePitbulls49 7 months ago
Wow this video has no respect for rev. there for this is gay. he is an amazing singer.
MegaCoolAids 7 months ago
To really set it straight it's "I've had enough it's time for something real Don't respect the words you're speaking Gone too far, acclaim!"
TravisC0j0car 7 months ago
@TravisC0j0car its perfect, accept he says a clone instead of acclaim
JackMehoff845 7 months ago
Just wanna set this straight about the Rev's part in the chorus, It's; "Telling them its all for something real, don't respect the words you're speaking, gone too far. Acclaim!"
fanetic69 7 months ago
@fanetic69 He says: "I've had enough its time for something real
I don't Respect the words you're speaking
gone too far, Acclaim"!
Jhon117100 7 months ago
@Jhon117100 Have u actually listened to the studio version? You can clearly hear him say "telling them its all for something real dont respect the words you're speaking gone too far acclaim"
fanetic69 7 months ago
Do they ever give you a strait shot of Jimmy ???
No fair.....
MissMusicaX 7 months ago
there was a guitar, i think zacky v's one, that had a strange sound, such as a keyboard, i'm wrong? O_o?
Agasaballallaba 8 months ago
why is the recorded version and the live version different, they dont sing the thing bout the kid after the rev sings the chorus, they just say hey a bunch of times, not hating, jw, plz explain!
taylorcdabomb 8 months ago
@taylorcdabomb
I think its because its usually the first song they play and its a way of pumping the crowd up and that bit in the song is quite hard to sing live under one breath :P
and the bit at the end is different because...well idk but its awesome :D
Gawy77 8 months ago
@taylorcdabomb Well for starters, the scream that comes in at the end of that part would be hard to pull off after all that talking. Also, it gets the crowd a lot more pumped up to chant along with M Shadows. Another reason might be just for the simple fact that not everyone wants to go to a live show and hear a band play the song exactly like it is on the album. A little variety is always nice.
LazerField 8 months ago
@taylorcdabomb It's because that part of the song in the studio version doesn't really go to the beat of the song. Therefore it's too likely that M. Shadows timing could get off like anybody's would. Besides, it's a great way to pump up the crowd. :)
evan3452 7 months ago
1 personne ce sent toute seul :)
chocobop1995 8 months ago
3:04 M. Shadows fucks up. He says ''Ignore the obscene, ignore the untrue'' haha :)
dudeofcha0s 8 months ago
@dudeofcha0s for some reason he always does that for live shows, i get confused when i sing the live v recorded version lol
lipglosslover09 8 months ago
they sound almost exactly as they did in lbc.
theultimatewin1 8 months ago
@b4evrsc3n3 but yet people think those are the least important players.
InfernapeCalib 8 months ago
@b4evrsc3n3 Shows that people think the lead singer and the guitar are the only important part of a song. take out the drums and the bass and listen to it.
InfernapeCalib 8 months ago
great song but gates screams sucks a lot lol
SHPrada 8 months ago
Thumbs up if you know that Jimmy says " Acclaim!" instead of "A clone!"
kingdomkeyomega 8 months ago
@kingdomkeyomega
A Clone.
GUIGOISH 4 months ago
they should have shown the rev more in this, not saying the other shouldent be shown theyre awsome but the rev isnt shown enough, but i still love avenged sevenfold. would have been better if the rev stayed tho :( but i love 2:24 syn lol
HMscarystories 8 months ago
woah, shadows holds the mic so far away, probably so his voice doesnt mangle it
JoeyThe14th 9 months ago 2
syn's voice is awesome
JoeyThe14th 9 months ago 2
I'd recognize M. Shadows out of 10,000 voices
MetalCorexD 9 months ago 7
thumbs up the Revs part
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Behnkeful 4 months ago
I love the Zacky and Syn's voices
15synyster 9 months ago 5
Love Synyester Gates he so damn cool
xxarantzaxx 9 months ago in playlist Avenged Sevenfold 6
how about fucking filming The Rev while he's singing ?
vivalapatur 9 months ago 10
Camera+The Rev when he's singing=better vid. Still a great vid tho
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Lazarou101 9 months ago
2:23 hahe Syn <3
Zaonlol 9 months ago 3
haha. for the 1 dislike,
shhhh be quiet. you might piss somebody off.
RC62Scorch 9 months ago 7
friggin LOVE this song. wish they'd put the camera on the rev when he's singing though, like what the hell?!
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StudFB 9 months ago
I was crying when I heard the Rev's voice
A7XfoREVer95 9 months ago
The rev singing just makes me shiver hes so fucking awesome R.I.P
Rovdizx 9 months ago 3
I love the band but not tha filming :O
IsakEngstroms 10 months ago
it brought me back to when I saw them.... Epic!
AR15Justice 10 months ago
i think my favorite song by them
bigvic7804 10 months ago
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gtaspecialist900 10 months ago
MWEHH 2:24 xD
36thBLITZ 10 months ago 2
thumbs up for M.Shadow's screams
W33D4N 10 months ago 268
You have to respect them they must be very tired to play and sing their heart out everyday not including practice! But they still get out there and play for the fans that just shows how awesome they are!!!! The rev deserves to be shown while singing he works very hard to play the drums and do that awesome singing! Hate that you died rev! 100% respect and love to you and your friends and family!!!!!! Thumbs up if you like my insane long comment!! lol
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i wonder who disliked this...they should be sterilized!!
GUVNA91 10 months ago
i wonder who disliked this...they should be sterilized
GUVNA91 10 months ago 3
@GUVNA91 you sir are genius!
IsakEngstroms 10 months ago
i hope the rev meets up with pual gray and jimmy hendrix
, song they can create a kick ass fucking tune
Willshotmetal 10 months ago
ok fuck these cameramen, they think that the only people playing are the vocals and guitars!!! goddamnit when M Zacky Ans Sin sing there all over that shit but when god forbid the DRUMMER sings its comepletely unimportant.... damnit, and as a drumer myself i seriously want to beat some ass
pickleweazle141 10 months ago
why don't they ever sing the talking part in the CHO why?
stevenjr777 11 months ago
@stevenjr777 I wonder the exact same thing, it can be cos they cant remember it or something, cos even i can :P
mixryter 10 months ago
@Citatmaskinen you would think that, but is actually a clone not acclaim.... i used to think that too, i can't even justify how "a clone" makes sense in the context of the lyrical theme but those are the lyrics.
1991ant1991 11 months ago
Synister is doing so kick ass
vampz247 11 months ago
what the fuck isn't the rev the singer hes damn good.
TheGuitarslayer2 11 months ago
@TheGuitarslayer2 ikr?? idk y they didnt know why they did't show him singing
vampz247 11 months ago
This band is soo talented and hotttt....
1darem 11 months ago
Holy shit
ZamiPii 11 months ago
@Darknesskid10 So they did 4 covers, not 3 xD
zombiepaki94 11 months ago
I'd be so nervous in front of that many ppl, but they'r rockstars so they can do it ;) love rev's voice ! so unique <3
JJuliav 1 year ago
M.Shadows is soo hot!
MissMetalfreak 1 year ago
@Darknesskid10 That's four