PJTV: White House FAIL! Keep Fighting!

[halloranedward]

close the fed/state bureaucracy and start a flat tax now.

[SabbyGuy09]

Dude... that's the Rorschach and Deadpool theme song!!!

[slayerkendra]

KEEP FIGHTING OBOZO GOING DOWN ON HIS ASS!

[DawnOfTheDead991]

Too bad the right wing morons bought that lie from Palin about those fake death panels. Shows how ugly stupid and paranoid most of those brainless geeks are that they bought all that stupid garbage. People who take this asshole or PJ Media seriously are not mentally balanced or very intelligent at all.

[graceman25]

these victories mean to mean this : those that claim right to power based on popular support are defeated by the same. with ease.

However these people have been lying about their power base. Its not by popular support and we all know it.

Your doing a fine job of exposing where they actually draw their power from steven. we need to punish them for it now that we have the evidence. ie, prison.

[Elestareus]

We should look into those founding father tactics when they were trying to get the government to listen to them before they went to war.

[Kafka1479]

public option health care failed!! haha right on! i don't want my tax dollars going to helping poor americans live. if Jesus would have wanted the poor to have healthcare, he would have given it to them. now let's go kill the EPA, social security and benefits for veteran's!! God bless the GOP and the corporations that control it's talking points. can't wait for 2012 and a return to lowering taxes for the rich and starting multiple wars. war with Iran???.... yes we can!

[hooplablahblahblah]

@Kafka1479 Multiple wars? Oh you mean like the war in Lybia and Obama not pulling our troops out of Iraq? I'm sorry. I meant to say "Kinetic Military Action" And the bad thing about this healthcare thing that you seem to be missing is this... Millions of jobs... Poof. Privacy Rights.... Poof. Huge payments cause you eat at McDonalds every now and then... There. 5 years in prison and/or a $1000 fine because you don't wanna be on it... There. Paying for an illegal immagrants health care... There.

[Kafka1479]

@hooplablahblahblah

i can't wait until you guys run Bachman. oh man, those are going to be some interesting debates.

btw, the more the GOP vilifies the poor, the quicker their march to irrelevance will be.

if you can't wrap your mind around the public option, try visiting europe. its real. it works. its the christian thing to do. ;-)

[VeritasTruthEmet]

He is such a weirdo. No like, just odd. No wonder hes a French Canadian eh. Wtf was that dance? Jesus.

[mrrossn]

the funny part is at the end. I guess stereotypes are true, white people espespecially white guys can't dance. But the black dude was awsome. JK, Thanks Mr. Crowder for being a new light for the non-liberal people to take a que from. peace out, friend.

[rockinran]

Great job Steve....We need to keep their feet to the fire by continuing the tea party campaigns and vote most of these weasels out of office.

And don't forget that around election time tunes may change but weasels remain the same. Vote em out.

[jlauer4444]

What is the song at the beginning of this video?

[evrlastingbeauti]

haha, I love how they're trying to push the healthcare bill through before the REPUBLICAN replacement for Ted Kennedy takes his seat.

[ea32da32]

Great! I signed up.

[klwong14]

OBAMA RULES YOU SUCK

[frankgrimes17]

Do people realize that there is not such thing as a czar in the administration? Its a nickname for an administrative official. Bush had more "czars" than Obama.

Congratulations on your imaginary victory of getting rid of parts of a bill that didnt exists....at least not in the way that you thought they existed.

[conservativestudent1]

no bush did not. obama has more. i actually believe its double or more than that

[frankgrimes17]

Thats fine if you believe that. You would be wrong. That is not really my point though. The point is that there are no such thing as czars in our govt, its a nickname. Some people out there think it actually has something to do with Russia.

[tubofjoy]

Obama has 35 fucking "Czars". Bush had no where near that many. OPEN YOUR EYES!

[pablocoon]

Bush sucked too man, big time. He was no conservative.

[picbusket]

lol!

So who are these some people, eh?

Troll elsewhere beautiful unicorn rider.

[Halo4Lyf]

The point is that Obama is using them in place of consented-upon officials in the various Departments. The official Executive Branch is really under-staffed. He's building a sort of shadow government that's designed to remain unaccountable. And bush had more than 42 unvetted people with power to make policy?

[donttelluseenme]

WOW I believe Bush had 12 Czars... Obama has 35... How is 12 higher then 35? Also YES dumb ass if you seen the bills they were trying to pass there was a government run program in them. WOW research a little before you comment!

[DawnOfTheDead991]

@donttelluseenme Another mindless right wing fool focusing on a stupid little word like Czar.

[hdl13]

Comment

[gothicXkumiko]

i love his laugh lol so funny

[ugetsean]

Nice Video but they just told you they dropped all those things out of the bill-but don't worry, they'll be back. End the Fed!!!

[Kitsuneranger]

Stop watching liberal news outlets that support a certain style of heatlh care system from a certain country *cough*Canada*cough* that killed people like Len Carlson and Jeff Healey (both are canadians and both died from types of cancer)

[pacers3115]

please tell that you dont actually think there were gonna be death panels. also, bush had more czars.

[amarant1627]

Yes, but after 8 years he had 21 that Congress did not approve of. After 9 months, Pres. Obama has 26 unapproved "czars"

[DCkey101]

These Victory's mean that we are being heard. We need to keep it up. I took part in a 10,000 person tea party in the suburbs of Chicago. (obama's home state!) the support for the tea parties are overwhelming even in the "deep blue" areas

Of course its not sarcasm! Overwhelming...majority.... I think not.

[ervin2]

This is sarcasm right? I mean this guy does realize that and overwhelming majority of Americans support nationalized healthcare right?

[zegermandude]

The fuck have you been!?The overwhelming majority of Americans want to shove Obamas head through a wall just for proposing it. I hope you die a painful death, and hopefully without contaminating the gene pool.

[ervin2]

I'm not surprised to have gotten such a brain damaged response to my comment. Where have I been? Unlike you I have been researching my claims, and unlike you I'm not mentally retarded. A quick check of all the major news sources gives the same results: TIME magazine found that 55% of people want MAJOR reform while the rest want minor changes, FiveThirtyEight sampled polls showed a 65 to 76% support for a public option. NYT polls show that 72% want govermnent run health insurance,

[herbs814]

NYT polls are deliberately biased. Polls that sample democrats at twice the rate of republicans are purposefully biased. They were never meant to report the public mood honestly. They were designed to reach a fore-ordained leftist conclusion.

[landothedead]

@herbs814

maybe there are just twice as many Democrats out there.

[DawnOfTheDead991]

@herbs814 Not true, sounds like you are just parroting typical neocon media bashing rubbish

[herbs814]

@DawnOfTheDead991 It's a shame you can't recognize the truth when you see it. The tyrannical proposals of the left are terribly unpopular because they're simply terrible. And all your ranting about "neocon media" just proves you are in denial.

[DawnOfTheDead991]

@herbs814 Tyranny my ass. You claim the polls are rigged, got any proof?

[herbs814]

Only 41% of Americans support Obamacare -- 56% oppose. Seniors are even more opposed to Obamacare than young people. The demoncrats who push Obamacare will pay for even proposing something so wicked being imposed on America.

[ervin2]

and SurveyUSA shows that 77% of people want a public option for healthcare. You say that most people want to shove Obama's head through a wall? Tell me please, what the fuck are you smoking? While you're at it, why don't you take yourself out of the gene pool.

[zegermandude]

Yeah and I can pull numbers out of my ass all day long too, not to mention you are quoting liberal propoganda machines. I just looked at FiveThirtyEight and the numbers you have quoted are nowhere near accurate, I have seen polls that say that LESS than 20% of Americans want his bullshit healthcare. Oh and too late got little ones already in the gene pool, one is 3 and the other is 5, and they are probably smarter than you are.

[ervin2]

Hahahahah wow you are hilarious. The numbers I quoted come directly from their sources, unlike yours. Less than 20? How wide is your asshole exactly that you can slap numbers on without providing a single source?

This argument is done, I have never yet seen anybody discredit themselves so quickly in a songle post. Got back to watching Faux bullshit you retard.

[zegermandude]

How wide is my asshole? You are out of you fucking Canadian mind if you think that 77% of Americans want a public option. Why do you think it was dropped out of the bill. Wide ranging and vicious opposition got it dropped. You are obviously ill informed and probably fairly stupid. You are a sad pathetic human being and I pity you.

[Wheeljack35]

Is that run by the liberals also?

[Wheeljack35]

ervin2 stop watching MSNBC, Obama and his cronies have you people fooled

[herbs814]

The overwhelming majority REJECT socialized healthcare. A majority oppose the democrats' plan. And a majority ( given a choice between the democrats' plan and no bill passed this year at all) prefer no bill to be passed by this congress.

[sazza2012]

thanks for making politics FUN!

[roncram]

I made some proposals in an Open Letter to My Congressman found in a Note on my Facebook page. I believe anyone can view my Notes. The proposal mainly has to do with the Republican response to Obama's major healthcare speech before both houses of Congress scheduled for Wednesday night. Please take a look. My Facebook page is roncram1. Hope to see you on Facebook!

[tonysshadow]

I love these guys and gals!!! Im sneekiing up on 52 yrs old, born and bred in Georgia and I did my bit for 8 yrs in the USMC. Seems nothing on TV represents common courtesy, common sense, or even talent nowadays....let alone a value system. I discovered PJTV folks thanks to FOX network. Thank the goodl Lord, there are still a few in this "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". PJTV goes along way to professionally prove that individualism and faith are still the strongest forces on earth.

[TheeAmericanPride]

The bill needs to be one page with bullet points. Not 1,018 pages of fluff and crap. It's written in such a way that there are twists and hidden meanings. I hate the Gov't and all the stupid decisions and things they do. They need to be over thrown.

[xbeardgmail]

SHUT UP you RACIST communists!!!!!!

And dont think we've WON for one minute. They will change the wording to co-op or slip the portions in the middle of the night.  But, we're on to them. We know their Marxist, Communist agenda.

Green is the NEW RED!

[Sheldonwh]

OMG, you're retarded. Did you even READ the proposals before making this vid? The "Death Panels" are exactly the same as what's in your insurance options now (the one your parents probably pay for). All it does is insure that people in hospice can die a painless and dignified death. There are no Orwellian "Death Panels" involved. Leave it to the Re'pubs to distort something like that so much that Obama finally dropped it. I hope YOU die painfully so you'll pay for spreading lies and hate, fucker

[Sheldonwh]

Wow, you're really a dipshit. Not only does practically NO ONE watch your poorly produced channel, but you can't even get your facts straight.

The loss of the public option is the fault of the REPUBLICAN assholes, not Obama. His failure is in dealing with morons like you in the first place. He should have just told you all to fuck off and done what he wanted...kinda like your frat boy, George Bush, who BROKE THE WORLD ECONOMY and TRASHED IRAQ so we'd have to spend billions rebuilding it.

[jmartecep]

Interesting vid. If we have a victory it may be a weak one. We still have the Health care industry running ramped in government, so I look at as the American people are losing. We still have corporations controlling us funny thing about it is that we can choose who's giving us the business. The spread of miss information isn't helping it's only making things worse. Were is our victories for the Patriot Act and FISA?

[supersambo723]

You may ask why would that happen. Well, as the law of supply and demand goes the more people buying the less the price can be. The fewer the people buying the higher the price will be. They can lower the price the more people buy w/o fear of losing a major profit. However with few people being able to take a "private option" those that could afford it still would be made to pay a much higher price. Once again that's just bad business to me. I could be wrong.

[ambrosesams]

Yes, but if you have a public option that is inexpensive and more people opt for it, then prices need to fall in order for private insurance to be competitive OR they improve their services dramatically in order to justify their costs. Currently they can charge what they choose and still deny people coverage on a whim...and all the time they are making super profits.

[supersambo723]

While medical professionals would be the ones doing the treatment, a lot of their money would be coming from the government via socialized medicine. That being said do you really think that the government would pay for the best medical care, and the best medicines for everyone? I don't think so. They would go the cheapest route, in order to maintain a profit off of the higher taxes. The government is a business after all.

[ambrosesams]

"do you really think that the government would pay for the best medical care, and the best medicines for everyone?"

You think that insurance companies don't avoid paying out if they are not going to make a profit? Why have insurance premiums risen by more than 100% in recent years. If there is a government option, they can buy drugs at cost, without worrying about profit, forcing insurance costs to become more competitive.

[supersambo723]

I know for a fact that insurance companies do this, that doesn't make it right for them, and it would be right for the government either. What makes you think that the government would allow people to just pay an "at cost" price for medicines, just because the government did? You don't think the government wouldn't be worried about a profit?

[ambrosesams]

Just like Medicare, Medicaid and all other 'socialised' programs, it's not for profit. That's just what you're projecting on it. No, there is no worry about the profit, and that is the point of the reform, providing health insurance at an affordable rate for those who cannot afford, not for every American citizen. It's not about making a profit...if you belive that you must believe that the aforementioned 'socialised' programs also are for government profit. Do you?

[supersambo723]

Does the government ever use the money that was allocated to these programs for anything else? Yes they do, so the government actually would care whether or not they could make more money off of another socialized program such as health care. The government is a business, and all businesses are out to make a profit. If the government wasn't then taxes would be just high enough to cover the needs of the people, and no more.

[ambrosesams]

I take it that you are more Libertarian than Republican. The needs of people are not cut and dry, so there can be no simple taxes "just high enough to cover the needs of the people". If only it were that easy. For example, what if you have a major disaster like Katrina? If you have only been taxing people for what they need, how do you contend with that? Or if the country goes to war...just having enough for the people to get buy leave nothing for cost of prevention or preparation.

[supersambo723]

However knowing that things like Katrina, and War have happened, and will more than likely continue to happen, especially in the case of natural disasters It would only make sense to provide for those cases. Therefore those incidents should be, and are covered by the taxes that people pay. Therefore it would fit into the criteria of "just high enough to cover the needs of the people and no more." See what I mean? As far as the libertarian thing, maybe.

[ambrosesams]

I'm all for debate over the issue, but the argument being that you should just let things work themselves out and that the capitalist system of healthcare will 'work itself out' is inane. That's why there needs to be reform, so that EVERYONE can have health insurance, whether you stay with your private insurance if it is what you want, or if you take a public option because it's what you can afford. What other solutions are Republicans/Conservatives suggesting?

[supersambo723]

I'm not saying we don't need reform, but I am saying we don't need it in the form of socialized medicine. Also why wouldn't they just raise taxes for those who wanted the "public option"? Just because Republicans/Conservatives haven't presented another option doesn't mean we should take the only option that has been presented. Also I never once said that we should just "let things work themselves out."

[ambrosesams]

'Also why wouldn't they just raise taxes for those who wanted the "public option"?'

Because they are the very people who can't afford it.

[supersambo723]

I knew you were going to say that. Infact I had even typed it myself! They would be the only ones benefiting from this option though, so if it's only another 3%, and you said yourself that's not going to break the bank for anybody, then why not make them pay the extra 3%? Because it would end up being way more than just 3% that's why. It would be more around another 20%. They definetly couldn't afford that, and no one else should have to pay that for them.

[ambrosesams]

They wouldn't be the only ones. If the public option is inexpensive, then that would mean that private insurance would have to become more competitive, making insurance premiums lower freeing up spendable income that can be put back into the economy. I meant the 3% wouldn't break the bank of those earning over the threshold of $250K...but for those earning $30K it could be a death knell...okay, that may be a little dramatic!

[supersambo723]

But it wouldn't be inexpensive in comparison to the average rates that people pay now. It would be right around the same price actually, and in some cases maybe a little more, or a little less. However why increase the 3% only to those that make more than $250K when they are the ones who provide a lot of jobs in the first place? By doing so you would make them eliminate some of their workers in order to maintain their profit margin, which would hurt the economy just as much don't you think?

[fivestarmichael]

The real costs of insurance cannot come down until we have lower prices for drugs and procedures. Medicare is the largest purchaser of drugs, yet they don't negotiate prices. 

Even with single-payer costs will still be high and big-Pharma will continue to reap profits which dwarf Insurance company profits.

Maybe if Congress and Obama stopped cutting deals with big-Pharma and other healthcare providers costs would come down and medical care would become affordable again.

[ambrosesams]

You make a vallid point and there are fears that there has been made with Pharma. We'll see how that evolves...I still see the problem being with private insurance profiteers and that public option is the thing to push changes in the private healthcare sector.

[supersambo723]

That's the problem though I personally don't think that a public option would change anything in the "private healthcare sector." Think about it this way, It's the law of supply and demand right. Well in that case what happens when the people get tired of how poorly their "public option" is doing? Well if they really want the "private option" then the "private option" companies can make these people pay an even higher price in order to get it.

[ambrosesams]

But to make your point you're automatically assuming that the public option wouldn't work. The first priority for this reform is give ALL citizens access to health care of some kind. Those that are happy with their private insurance get to keep it, those that can't afford it have a public option. I can't say whether it is going to work well or not, I can't see into the future, but at least it is there so that people don't have to run the risk of not having care, or exorbitant costs for it.

[supersambo723]

While I see where you're coming, and can agree to some extent looking at other countries that have socialized medicine, it is safe to assume that ours would end up being the same way. I personally think that most people, since they are payig for it with their taxes anyway, instead of continuing to pay for their private insurance would "opt" for the public option putting a strain on public health care. Would you continue to pay for two types of insurance?

[jmartecep]

I agree with you fully. We are still losing. It has to be taken back and re-evaluated.

[fivestarmichael]

But you don't ever hear this argument in any media... including Fox news. In fact, CNN and NPR both mentioned this briefly. We are being played.

If we were paying the same prices for drugs and procedures as EU countries medical care would become affordable again. Expect the powers that be don't want that.

As always we are being forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Single-payer or no reform at all.

When it is obvious what really needs to be reformed.

[jmartecep]

True great point. I just have to add that I'm not happy with how this issue is being handled. We are not involved with the decision making process that's what really bothers me. The separation tactics of politics is getting sickening. For example Bush's medal plan for medicare medicaid only work out for the healthcare industry, no protests no rally's for that, so shameful. Now we have this, price regulations however, people will be insured. So the health care industry wins again.

[fivestarmichael]

jmartecap,

I honestly think it took a lot to wake conservatives up and realize that Bush was not a conservative at all.

They passed laws forbidding the Medicare to negotiate prices to protect Pharma. Under Pharma influence the GOP set the ground work for this "reform." effort.

Instead of negotiating lower prices Bush just handed Pharma Medicare D. He didn't solve anything... and Obama isn't going to solve anything. Pharma is controlling this entire debate.

[ambrosesams]

Also I never once said that we should just "let things work themselves out."

Fair enough, I shouldn't have lumped you in with those that are pushing that agenda.

The only people that are making any 'profit' out of stalling healthcare reform are those politicians Democrat and Republican who are being paid out by Health Insurance lobbyists.

Why is there no viable response to this mode of reform?

[supersambo723]

I don't know. I agree with you that there are politicians making money off of this, and that's one of the main hold ups. However to say that the government wouldn't want to make a profit as well off of the people just doesn't make sense. The people are their only asset.

[ambrosesams]

Where the concept of this being a cash cow comes from I don't know, but it is likely that there would be easier ways. They could just raise taxes. The government is there to serve the people, not squeeze them to create capital, that's what makes no sense.

[supersambo723]

If the government is there to just serve the people then they are doing a piss poor job in my opinion. Taxes are already high enough as it is,and the economy is in shambles. Now maybe I'm being a little too melodramatic. Anyway, we don't need higher taxes, we need better representation fom the taxes were already paying.

[ambrosesams]

"If the government is there to just serve the people then they are doing a piss poor job in my opinion"

Fair enough and there is much that you can be disgruntled about. I just think that it shouldn't be isolated to what a lot of conservatives say which is "Obama is to blame for everything"

"we need better representation fom the taxes were already paying"

Hear, hear...both sides of the fence need to be called out, "Are you there for your own gains, or the well being of your constituents?"

[supersambo723]

By that "small percentage" I take it you mean the top 20% in terms of wealth right? Taxing these people more than anyone else by percentage would just be wrong. Also they would have to downsize their companies in order to regain the profit margin that they would be losing by their higher taxes. Not only that but 20% or so of a nation wouldn't be able to pick up the slack of the other 80% unless that 80% were helping as well. Taxes are higher in socialized countries, that's a fact.

[ambrosesams]

"Taxes are higher in socialized countries, that's a fact"

That is true, because they then receive their medical care, education and other services for free.

"Not only that but 20% or so of a nation wouldn't be able to pick up the slack of the other 80% unless that 80% were helping as well"

They wouldn't need to, the public option is for those who can't afford healthcare, so the 80% number doesn't even make sense to your argument.

I don't believe an extra 3% is going to break the bank.

[USNChiefC]

Outstanding video highlighting a small victory en-route to hopefully a true trouncing of the liberal nuts trying to socialize this great country. For those who dont agree move to my (former) home state of CA. Im sure Pelosi will greet you with open arms, collection bucket, union card and shackles. I am going to truly enjoy seeing the crew at the agency allow her to reap what she has sewn.

"If you cant stand behind our troops, try standing in front of them".

ASC(AW) Chief C, USN(RET)

[ambrosesams]

What does healthcare reform have to do with standing behind the troops?

[lenny380]

sounds good but we will have to see- have a LONG way to go.You know those Dems can Ram it on through.

[miamistorm]

Creative and talented, Steven has obviously hit a 'truth nerve' with some viewers as they seem to have nothing better to do than rate all of his videos 1-star. Congratulations Steven, you are doing a great job in messing with the 1-star/37-IQ crowd! Keep up the good work, and as MLK said: "The truth will set you free". You need to be careful as I think that Obama's latest czar is the YouTube Czar.

[TheAmusingBunni]

Great News! Steve, Keep on telling the truth! People, the fight has just begun, don't let up! They are running scared now and will pull out ALL the stops and dirty tricks to RAM this through! God Bless America, stop obama!

[JDBW]

ALFFONZO!!!!

[dila813]

We got rid of the consultation, we didn't get rid of the death panels. The death panel is the Healthcare Effectiveness Study Agency that will deny care without appeal.

[Rhiannon003]

What this means to me is that We the People really do have some power left and we should be encouraged to keep speaking out

[supersambo723]

Not to mention the fact that the government would become too burdened down to properly deal with peoples health. You would get the cheapest drugs money could buy, and same goes with the treatment. It just doesn't make sense to me.

[ambrosesams]

Well, medical professionals would take care of people not the government. They would simply have a governement subsidised insurance plan...if they chose to take it.

[supersambo723]

Of course they're going to remarket their proposal. Hopefully people will realize it every time and not buy into it. Socialized medicine just wouldn't work in this country. They would have to raise taxes atleast 20% per household in order to even start to cover it. We already have a national debt of 11.4 trillion dollars. Taxing the crap outta people isn't going to help that any at all, infact it would make it a lot worse.

[ambrosesams]

"Socialized medicine just wouldn't work in this country"

Are you protesting Medicaaid and Medicare as well?

"They would have to raise taxes atleast 20% per household in order to even start to cover it"

Yes, if tax rises were to be placed on ALL households, but its on the small percentage earning over a certain amount.

"Taxing the crap outta people isn't going to help that any at all, infact it would make it a lot worse"

Agreed...if that was how they planned to pay for it.

[RocketRitch88]

Crowder, I am still going to be pulling security on these Socialist PoSs, but I am dancing the jig while doing it. This is our country and we spoke in one voice and we said NO!

To everyone: Thank you and God Bless America.

[bugg255]

DO NOT DROP YOUR GUARD! those socialist pukes are slicker than a minnows dick

[GraphiteDiscussion]

I always wondered what it would look like if Dane Cook did political commentary.

[DumbAppleProductions]

FTW! To me this means that no one will have to have their grandmother/grandfather, mother/father or anyone else they hold dear have care kept from them because they are too old or too sick. Plus I don't want to wait for weeks to see my doctor.

[Federalist306]

I think we are doing well, but I would watch out for some trick like the nuclear reconciliation.

[cecgm938]

Nothing, it's just bait and switch. They will call it something else and do it. Or they will put it in at the last minute from a napkin Pelosy blew her nose on. Trust me they won't give up that easily.

[Sherri119]

I'm still not too secure in believing that these things have truly been stopped. I just don't trust it yet.

Btw, did anyone else think Zo looked like he was doing the Snoopy Dance? Lol.

[BondFreek]

Fantastic news! But the battle has just started. We must keep up with the protests and writings.

[yonvunega2000]

Friends, it ain't over! These sneaky creeping in the night behind closed doors 'Vampires' won't stop until the light of the SUNSHINE LAW (a FL Law) exposes them for what they really are. Dark of night sneaky-creeping blood suckers of Liberty. Thank you.

[Yakko77]

It aint over till the fat lady sings and believe me she's still in the building... she's just chowing down at the buffet right now getting her energy back up.

[langer31415]

needs MORE emphasis on the fact that the libs aren't done yet!! in fact, far from it.

the fight is going to last much longer... they still have a lot of muscle, but we have the upper hand. we have the American people on our side and we're more passionate, it seems.

don't lose the passion! this is far from over!!

[Jaimetud]

Aaaand the health care bill is back, under another name.

[Zoklor]

Dont stop fighting though, they will just relabel it and try and pass it again.

[zwayd]

*****

[Pct3ch]

Fight on PEEPZ.. FIGHT ON!

[BaronVonTrout]

In a poll in my local area (overly liberal long island, New York) they asked the question "Are you for or against government-run health care". Even though its a liberal area, it was 70% against it. So just imagine less liberal places...

[pepeledog]

It ain't over until he's out of office.

[EncompassedRunner]

No! Obama's public option has not been dropped. Flagging program also has not been dropped, just renamed & redirected to other site. What these "victories" mean to me, is that they are not victories...only deceptively so, people will exhale because of superficial, but not real, changes to Obama's agenda.

[Raycheetah]

Knew about the shell game with the public option (it was inevitable), but not about the redirected flagging site. Can you provide more details, please? ='[.]'=

[EncompassedRunner]

Raycheetah, they tell you to go to the whitehouse site, specifically the part called "realitycheck"

[Raycheetah]

Yup, there it is! They're a little more subtle about soliciting info, but it's still there.

One of their talking points is: "...[R]eform will allow Native Americans to keep the care they have now and has benefits for every American."

Native American health care is the ABSOLUTE WORST in the nation! Shiny... =0[.]o=

[EncompassedRunner]

yeah, I went out to a reservation in Arizona, been a few years, but the conditions were as bad as in the third world African nation where I did my Peace Corp service - that's why Boehner's vid on health care on the Indian reservations is one of my favorite health care vids

[WayfinderX]

Can you link that? I've seen it once before, but I can't seem to find it.

[EncompassedRunner]

not from this computer, no way do I go to any WH site -- it's what I said, the WH site (standard 3 w's at front the gov at end) then a front slash then realitycheck -- I cannot try it right now from here, but before when you tried to contact flag they told you to go there where you can then rat out anyone you want

[EncompassedRunner]

Wayfinder...Obama's new Mr. Flag, "Reality Check" is now turning up all over YouTube -- first the official "Reality Check: Vice President Biden Asks You to Bust a Myth" video, then all these 1-video accounts popped up with vids all titled: "Re: Reality Check: Vice President Biden Asks You to Bust a Myth"

[XCritonX]

These victories mean that the government will have to be even more underhanded and sneaky.

What is needed is a constitutional amd that bans government wealth re-distribution scams, gov competition/involvement in private business, and limits the Federal government budget to 10% of GDP (with an extra 10% to pay off all debt).

Also a permanent disqualification from public office for any politician who approves a deficit budget. That will create surpluses as they want to be on the safe side.

[turisas1234]

No offense Steven, but the Zo wins the dance award.

[StrikeEagle84015]

I love how those who support the public option seem to keep their posts completly free of profanity and don't use vile language and make half sentences ramblings

[BoyKagome]

Strike bud, that's not just tghe Public Option...that's conservatives vs liberals. Liberals are 98% of the time the first to get rude and start making violent threats... they don't have logic and truth in their corner so they have to rely on smearing and intimidation. It's exactly how their media and governing skills work as well.

[LordAtrocities]

Its a short lived, less than 12 hour, victory. Now the Dems are saying that the Obama public option is back on the table and that they Democrats are going to either force the bill through without Republican support, or use the nuke option to undermine public opposition to the bill and back door it in under a budge proposal. Obama's objective is to collapse the us Government so that he can set aside 200 years of tradition and start anew as Social/Fascist Democracy instead of a Republic.

[LordAtrocities]

"This is all Bush's fault!" - Obama

[spantastical]

Steve you're pissin' off liberals man, you must be doin' something right, keep it up bud :)

[ColdGripHandle]

The public option is still alive you faggot

[ColdGripHandle]

This Canadian is wishing bad on our country fuck him he need to crawl back over the border. And suck a dick or something

[Toz1337II]

even being Canadian, if he supports private healthcare, he's more of an American than you will ever be. Good day to you sir.

[TranCendenZ]

ColdGripHandle: He isn't "wishing bad on our country". He had similar healthcare in Canada, and he doesn't want America to have the same failures. He did a hidden camera video on the Canadian healthcare. Please watch his video titled, "ObamaCare Yay Or Nay? The Truth About Canada," at this YouTube link:

/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

[Amerikaten]

Sarah Palin is a slut She fucked one of McCains helpers and thats why Todd is divorcing the bitch. And thats the same reason she came to the door naked.

[Amerikaten]

Crowder isnt even an American citizen bitch please

Watch the public option is back on the table bitches and guess what?

We are going to pass the muthafucka with our supermajority !!!!

How you like them apples ? Dont excuse my cursing i intend to curse because I have no respect for you hoes

[davidrjin]

There is a bit of good news.

[backtotheday]

The left wing tactic is to demonize American Citizens who oppose government take over of our lives as "extremists" and racists. We know the real truth and must continue to speak the truth in strength. I used to never talk politics in public or with friends. I do now. RESEARCH RESEARCH, know the facts.

[bubblemum]

What's next? How about attending a recess rally near you this Saturday at noon! Just google Recess Rally to find the closest one- keep the fire burning under thier feet! Just...don't dance. Really guys. Don't. Learn to waltz or something, ok? <3 ya!

[M1NDW1R3]

It's far from over folks, keep up the same level of attention and discussion until it is officially squashed. Remember the administration was trying to get you to go on the word of what they say rather than what is in the drafted bills, so why trust them on this. Sounds more like a diversion to get the people to back off and then ram it through. Thank you all!!! and keep it up!!!!!

[joegully]

YESSSSSS!!!!!!

[dweber66]

impeaching the obama usurper would help, along with ending the federal reserve bank

[LiberalshateAmerica]

obama 45% Zogby approval!

[thewill2]

We need to organize much more that we already do.

Especially because the left media thinks its bad for conservatives or constitutionalists to do.

[haypenny]

**{Cautiously optimistic Happy Dance}***

Strategy Plan B04.2a :

More of the same protesting, arguing, information digging, bill reading, bullshit detecting, socialism condemning and freedom loving stuff !

[702otown]

Lets dance!

[tubaboy71]

Drats I can't flag this! LOL good video!

[kaneose]

It is nice to know that government still fears the people. That is the way it should be.

[TheBravo345]

amen

[TheRingil]

Nice video!