SHAME ON FYROM Human Rights Rally US Mission to UN , 10/27/08 (part 2)

[IuseAK47]

guilty of genocide? lol what are these guys protesting???????

[MacedonWarrior]

Ah heck that´s not true. The reason we have 2% Muslims in Greece is because Greece and Turkey made a deal. In exchange for allowing Muslims in Thrace, Greece asked Turkey to allow some mixed Christians to exist in Istanbul in order to keep the Patriarchate alive. Greeks are not as generous as you may think!

[MacedonWarrior]

HAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHA...have a look at these bunch of YUNANS, MONKEYS.........GAYS..........­.MALAKAS....

HEHEHEEHEHEHEE

[XXTHEANATOLIANLIONXX]

Lol what a bunch of loosers.....

[electromiss]

No but you infered that upon the annexation of his government to expect "VETO FOR EVERYTHING".

What fairy tale? What are slavs os skpoje?

There are Maceodonians though.

And why would you make light of the onset of stravation and misery?

Your a sick sick person. Develop some humanitarian or altruistic traits. Such a typical nationalist

[Mpekris4]

Yeap i am happy you got that i am a nationalist ! Who is slav and skopje the gypsies that live next to the borders of the northern part of Greece (Macedonia ). GO and cry to bush !!! LOOSERS no european union no NATO , no name no ethnicity . A big NOTHING thats what you are . A mix of Bulgaroalbanogypsies thats what you are !!!

[electromiss]

Your a nationalist. Theres no point in explaining my contention to you.

Just like nazi germans dont recognise the holocaust, i dont expect you to acknowledge the suffering your country has imposed and burdened on the Macedonian public.

[Mpekris4]

VETO TO GYPSIES FOR EVERYTHING . Obama is on bush gone . Lets see now if the gypsies will continue their lies and theil stupid politics . The time will show!!!

[electromiss]

Hrmm.

Obama is to young to interfere with foreign policies.

His objectives are internally focused. Do you think the first thing hes going to do is annouce his position on the VETO?

Geez, someone thinks life is all about them

[Mpekris4]

Fyrom already got the warning from the EUROPEAN UNION !!! ANd i didnt say that the first thing obama will do is to solve the problem between Greece and skopje . But what iwas trying to say is that OBAMA knows the history . He will not try to create a fairy tale for the slavs of skopje . Have fun and all the best to people of skopje facing starvation soon !!!

[moxmortis]

What is your problem Hellenic Americans? Macedonia is independent state now. Currently there is only one Macedonia in modern times. Don't give me any 2000 yr old crap. Today there is a Republic of Macedonia and Republic of Greece. If you have a problem with that then get educated and accept the reality. We will not change our name under any circumstances. Why don't you change your name of Macedonia to Macedonia-Northern Greece, Or South Macedonia, since you want us to use North Macedonia.

[electromiss]

Who said anything about enacting a country called Rome? wtf : /

I'm simply disputing your claim of Macedonia been a country barely 100 years old when it is reference in the Blible.

I can only guide the poorly educated and for this i cannot waste further time on a lost cause as yourself.

I bid farewell and to all a goodnight

[NefeliDanai]

If as Genocide you mean the Greek civil war communists vs the greek army, then read some books first.

[electromiss]

I havent the time to continue with your antics.

You what act of genocide i was referring to, ive addressed it numerous times.

Skopja is not a country so i dont know which greeks are been supressed their but thats an issue that i cannot address as that doesnt exist.

MACEDONIA exists. I hate to break it to you. Skopja doesnt.

Grow up read a book!

I am repulsed by your misuse of the old testament.

Read about Pauls journey to Macedonia.

[NefeliDanai]

Paul travelled also to Rome to Corinth to Athens... Does that mean they should create a country Rome

Sorry this is what is stated in the holy & ancient texts.

You misuse these forums

Bye !

[electromiss]

If you are the humanist you think you are you would broaden your scope and not object the Macedonian people to more pain by saying that the pain they were induced by the greeks were actual administered vice versa.

as ive said

neo nazis dont recognise the holocaust

i dont expect greece to recognise the attempted genocide of my people

[NefeliDanai]

Sorry your goverment has harmed you a lot. Not Greece. We have 200.000 greek souls at Skopja that are denied the right to make association and bear the Greek name of their grandfathers.

Macedonian ethnicity constructed after the 1900's that's the truth.

[NefeliDanai]

Old testament

Alexander, son of Philip of Macedon, after his victory came out of the land of Chitim and crushed Darius, king of the Persians and the Medes, and reigned in his place after he had already become ruler [king] of Greece (Maccabees, 1:1.1).

Antiochusbecame king in the one hundred and thirty-seventh year of the kingdom of the Greek [Seleucids of Macedonia] (Maccabees, 1:1.10).

[electromiss]

What slavery, your the ones enslaving the Macedonians, the veto and your effort have reduced macedonian economic efforts and severly downgraded the quality of life for the 2 million innocent people.

Your arguements make no sense. Apply them to common logic not these fabricated medieval quotes you nationalists produced in their enormities.

[NefeliDanai]

How could Greece accept a member who has territorial claims ?

Have you seen FYROMS maps that are extended to 2nd large greek city thessaloniki and further ?

FYROM's tourist guides that are showing the Holy Mount Athos in Greece ?

Greece has enough from you.

[electromiss]

Produce these tourists guides.

Perhaps after 1903 they want to acknowledge what is rightfully theres.

POSSESSION DOESNT EQUATE TITLE.

[electromiss]

Kinda like the way Greece stole Macedonia's South and called Solun Thessolonikki

or Lerin = Florina

[moxmortis]

What is your problem Hellenic Americans? Macedonia is independent state now. Currently there is only one Macedonia in modern times. Don't give me any 2000 yr old crap. Today there is a Republic of Macedonia and Republic of Greece. If you have a problem with that then get educated and accept the reality. We will not change our name under any circumstances. Why don't you change your name of Macedonia to Macedonia-Northern Greece, Or South Macedonia, since you want us to use North Macedonia.

[NefeliDanai]

Why such insults against me?

..Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Greece, I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself a Greek by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery. Know then that Mardonius and his army cannot obtain favourable omens; had it not been for this, they would have fought with you long ago.. Herodotus Book IX ,45,(Kalliopi)

Descendance doesnt justify FYROMS territorial claims.

[electromiss]

Descendance doesnt justify FYROMS territorial claims??

Then why is Greece saying that they were ancient Macedonians and you know the whole NAME DISPUTE DEBACLE?

[electromiss]

Skopja? Another term later of the 21st century?

Apply logic. You cant surely believe your own argument.

After the SECOND CIVIL GREEK WAR Macedonians in greeces newly acquired north were left orphaned and displaced internationally in attempt to rid the Macedonian people.

but ofcourse you set up misleading protests such as that in this video.

Then again I dont expect any better from you

Nazi-germans still deny the holocaust why would you acknowledge the genocide of my people

[NefeliDanai]

You are completely brainwashed the slavs commited genocide to the greek people OK?

Speak with evidence and don't insult.

[electromiss]

Nazi-germans still deny the holocaust why would I expect that you acknowledge the genocide of my people?

[electromiss]

Macedonian existed prior to its partioning amonst its bordered countries in 1903 and affter the dissolution of yugoslavia all other countries resumed their original titles accept for Macedonian. which was tagged with FYROM due to Greek veto.

Greece and Serbia are ultimately attempting to claim that land to extend their economy and join the russian super power.

Denying Macedonian existence assists their genocidal attempts

[electromiss]

Look at history and read a book NefeliDanai!

You claim that bulgarians and communists created the Skopja region, after the war in Yugoslavia.

So your arguing that Macedonia and the Macedonian identity emerged fromthe dissolution of Yugoslavia.

Do you suffer from a learning difficulty? typical nationalist arguement, deny the existence. Macedonia is not a creation of the 20th century!

It is common Balkan History that the Ottoman Empire seizured Macedonia for 500 years.

[NefeliDanai]

The crime of kidnapped children from their families by the communists.

Those that wanted to create the macedonian state.

See facts google Child Gathering - Paidomazoma of Greek Childre

Or see

watch?v=y6oucl4iG4o

watch?v=_1xf8QtFT90

and the like.

[electromiss]

For a self determined reporter you should perhaps become more worldly familiar.

How did Macedonia braiwash Greek Children. Explain your arguement to me? The southern part of Macedonia was partioned off by greece right?

And Greece forbid the Macedonian people to speak their own langiage etc.

When did Macedonia invade Greece in the later of these centuries?

I think you've the general idea of what happened, but i think your sorely mistaken on the acting parties and victims.

[NefeliDanai]

Macedonia = Greece

Greece didnt invade it's own land.

Alexander is self-determined as Greek together with all other ancient sources.

[electromiss]

Aleksandar the Great is Macedonian.

How can you deny Macedonia when it is a civilisation noted in the Bible.

a 2000 year old document?

[NefeliDanai]

Pavle Filipov Voskopoulos obs he got his slav name, has greek grandfathers and his brother

is greek. Result of the slav brainwashed policy.

watch?v=EEywo-Freyk

1990 200.000 people declared as greek at skopja

FREEDOM TO THE

[electromiss]

NefeliDanai

Your going around in circles, what is your contention.

Here your saying theres slav brainwashing, then Macedonians dont exist but if they do they are a slav greek albanian hybrid : S and there skopjani as well.

I think some one needs to look into self realisation! Perhaps your the one been brainwashed

Dont comment unless your going to add meaning Im sick of your incoherent babble.

[NefeliDanai]

Hi there electromiss

Why you want to forbid me to comment who are you anyway

What I write here I can back it up with evidence for those interested.

The crimes against the Greek people are much more than those mentioned here.

[electromiss]

Did i commence a veto forbidding you to comment on youtube? No i didnt did I.

Dont misconstrue my words. I said, dont comment unless your going to add meaning Im sick of your incoherent babble. Put to me your contention.

You claim to back it up with evidence, then do it.

Im sick and tired of your fairytales.

Leave the Macedonian people alone!

[electromiss]

I live for the day to see you prosecuted for genoicide and repression of the Macedonian people.

Macedonia has a small populas and a weak economy. Greece is playing on these factors

We have had enough of your racial vilications and slander

[NefeliDanai]

There are no macedonians either greek bulgarians albanians slavs etc.

Who are the father and grandfather of these "Macedonians" give me names even their slavic version

watch?v=6AYhsFI3pOE

[electromiss]

I guess ignorance is bliss to you.

Reality will prevail .

[electromiss]

Why do Greek always have to br on the defence with Macedonians?

A greek will always give a Macedonian an insult.

I put to you which other country has so many micro 'tribes' creating their country. Pontian greek, cypriot greek etc. This is all terms coined with expantion antics.

You are malicious in character, and the world is beginning to see that. Your religious institutions permit the murder of Macedonians.

[electromiss]

Like the Jewish, Macedonians are Gods people. We may have been put through great pains through greek disturbed institutions but we will prevail.

[electromiss]

You have repressed these people long enough. Maybe they became complacent to your insults, tired even but Macedonians have awoken again and will fight this prolonged battle.

The Bible recognises Macedonia in existence as a vast Civilisation, much of the old world (Europe) recognises this. Apply logic Macedonia has been around for more than 2000 years.

[electromiss]

It is obvious that your words are fabricated. Look at the Red Cross efforts and they detail the attempted genocide of the Macedonians of Macedonians south after it was partioned.

I put to you then why are so many Macedonians displaced around the worl at this period? The UN convention of protection of the child was taken very seriously and many countries opened their borders to them.

[NefeliDanai]

The communist party and the countries that kindnapped and brainwashed the Greek children should be condemned and go on trial.

FYROM should pay for the provocation and the insults against the Greek people

[electromiss]

What are you talking about?

Honestly.

After the second greek balkan war, greece had acquired southern macedonian land and repressed their people. They were forbidden to speak greek and those that did were placed in prisons.

Your arguement is severely incoherent. Skopjani dont exist, Macedonians do.

Greece is fearing that if MAcedonia becomes recognised that they will compensate all the 40,000 orphanes they displaced.

[electromiss]

Paid Actors?

Likely. What genocide? You mean when you took our southern land and attempted to wipe out the Macedonian people.

I agree with the slogan stop the denial, the denial and dillusion that is instilled with you Greeks.

Macedonia is sick of your bullying tactics, why are you supressing mail in greeece if its addressed to Macedonia? Why wont your airlines fly over Macedonia? Racists!

You are pathetic.

Vardare, Pirin kaj ti e, Egej kaj ti e.

Den Ke Dojde

Say Macedonia

[NefeliDanai]

Pathetic? Respect for the victims the 28.000 children kidnapped from their families.

The Greeks at Skopja that are not allowed to speak Greek and they force to change their name

[metodi78]

Whats that- Fajrom you scanding, you mean shame on Macedonia,sent UN inspectors here in Macedonia and you will see that Oxi Malakas here,its free country send it free we will expecting UN inspectors dont bark like hysterical dogs there without sense,assholes

[metodi78]

hahahha insane people how much did Yunistany gowernment pays you

[lakonian]

I wish the Hellenic Government would of flipped the bill for the rally, but we have no such luck. The rally costs were paid for by local Hellenic organizations and other funds from our own pockets. Thats how a true patriots rolls...

[chkembari]

eden kup gupci