what is beauty? (1)

[SteveUllom]

I believe beauty is like what Arthur Schopenhauer described. If you want something it is not beautiful. It is beautiful if it makes you think about things in a way you do not do during the vast majority of life which is spent wanting something. beauty is the state which thought is clear and free of all greed. beauty is that perfect moment when you see something which makes you content and forget about your longing and endless cycle of satisfaction.

[DrDeist]

@SteveUllom @SteveUllom : Hey - awright! Great philosopher to cite.

[Djmemez]

Beauty lifts us up from all other lifeforms, but to try to describe it into mere words is simply not enough.

[thorkill]

Its actually Keats.. not Shelly

[sedicenobufalo]

how could this topic ever serve any sort of use? no offense just curious

[bahramf]

Of course beauty is subjective. Sartwell is such a dumb-ass.

[insut07]

Hmm! I can see this going around in circles, maybe he should have asked weather the women shown in the photo's had beautiful noses? What about the women in the photos? e:g the women on the covers of Vogue are beautiful, mainly white, but may look very different from the poor white women living in a council estates (housing Project: USA) How representative are the top models to (all) white women? Like how is Beyonce-Donna Summer-Rihanna-Liya Kebede true repersentatives of another tribe???

[insut07]

I guess its impossible to say something is beautiful.... BUT!!! If theres a BUT it cannot be deemed beautiful, thats if were "asking what is beauty". Like saying "that girl is really beautiful... but she's black". I love the beauty of Roses but i don't like the petals!!! I think the colour pink is beautiful.... but i don't like the pink-ness of it.

Sorry to come across as a stickler, but i'm only trying to help you with an awnser.

[insut07]

Like my comment below... The oars of a ship, (sappo) rowing un-syncrhonized... is a ship which is not going anywhere. The "syncrohnization of the oars takes the ship along (progress) to where one wants to go. Are you getting my gist here? Ripe fruit/Bad fruit- forward movement/static. Beauty can be political too: Angelina Jolies lips are said to be nice, but on an Afro-American woman can be viewd by racist as ugly lips. As in black skin= bad...sun kissed, bronzed skin "european"=Good.

[combatleague]

there is a mathematic equation of beauty called the golden ratio by Fibonacci. Charles darwin in his book "sexual selection" in decent of man and came to the conclusion that different tribes of people were more beautiful than others, and each tribe had its idea of beauty, and they each remarked on how thier beauty was "the ideal", so of course thier is a political component to this as well.

[insut07]

So if their IS... a political component, the beauty you talk of, does not exist.

Something is beautiful or it is not. If it depends on the political view of someone, then its means nothing, it won't have no real value

[combatleague]

no. i didnt explain it correctly then.

for instance. in remote remote tribes, darwin did tests, they asked to scale the beauty of those photographed. So, they showed pictures of white women, and they commented "they were attractive but they have pronounced noises." as when they showed native women to whites, they commented "they were attractive but thier noses was too flat; or too short, or whatever. he noted that the tribes version of beauty was the collective idea of the tribe and its diff...

[combatleague]

(cont.) difference to others. another example is facial hair, he noted whites take great pride in thier facial hair and consider it beauty or manish. however, native tribes that were less able to grow thick beards took extra steps to get rid of all hair and that was deemed attractive. so peoples try to to exagerate what they have. and that plays into politics. and in the modern age, politics and media as it relates to beauty.

[insut07]

Beauty when looked up in the dictionary says " Loveliness, attractiveness, splendour, magificence, in its wording. Beauty of motion "as the piece you read out" is valid as the flight of a bird or a ballet. I think there is something within "human nature" to make us attracted to things which are "beautful". Like most babies are cute... Thats because nature intends adults to love,cherish and protect them. As why youg children appear cute, women at Child bearing age and so on. Ripe fruit/bad fruit

[mindbodyhealer]

I didn't hear one word concerning the connection between beauty, truth and the enlightenment witnessed by the genius of the philosophy of aesthetics. I guess you would of if you could.

Cheers!!!