"Engaging with the voice of anorexia which has been stifled by the expertise of others" is the best thing i've ever heard any1 say! Having been in hospital with anorexia, i can tell u others intervening is the most "triggering" thing ive experienced to date. Pro ana sites can trigger u, mostly theyre just VERY calming. Knowing there are others out there who have the same thoughts & being able 2 talk anonymously about ur worries is therapeutic and beneficial to ppl w anorexia NOT triggering
I fully agree with the principle of anti-censorship. However, pro-ana sites are very controversial, and more harmful than you make out in that video. Censorship should never be embraced lightly, but sometimes it's necessary. For example incitement to commit homicide or advocating violence against ethnic groups should not be publicised and thus passively approved. When considering pro-ED sites, the severity and the distribution of the content should be considered. I don't know what to think.
@AnnicellaMe you could be fat and be anorexic, anorexic means that you hate your weight, you always think your fat, you real want to change. Do your reserch love
@misskawaiinevil From a clinical standpoint, no, you can't be fat and anorexic. That's called EDNOS. The "requirements" of anorexia are pretty strict.
Annorexia off the Internet, no, wannarexia off the Internet maybe... I wrote an essay on this last year and don't really have a straightforward opinion because we can't treat society like children and keep them in ignorance, hiding pro Ana would do just that but on the other hand it may be causing anorexia.. Say you don't know how to cope, if you've never heard of anorexia it's less likely for you to starve yourself correct? At the same time I don't want to be sensored on my Internet access so
I was anorexic than i was recovered and i had no alimentar desorders.than i become bulimic.Trust me i saw all faces of these "problems?" .According to me u can be anorexic, bulimic, bed or simply "normal?", world doesnt change.
I get what you're saying in your video, but I disagree that these websites don't cause a trigger, they most certainly can for those who are impressionable. Alot of girls on various recovery sites have said that pro-ana sites definitely triggered them into a mindset - especially sites that chastise those for not doing enough to lose weight.
THINSPIRATION. As a person who make Male Thinspiration Videos on YouTube and has a section of photographs on my magazine website, I think there is a fine line between healthy and unhealthy.
I use the term thinspiration to celebrate having a thin form. I do this because all my life people make comments like "eat a cheeseburger" or "I can see through you". While some people may take that in pos manner, I felt as if it's hurtful. I support people loving their body. It's ok to be thin. xoxo
anorexics are almost as disgusting as alchoholics. Yeahhhh baby looking hot with your ribs sticking out... Ohh your spine sticking out is so cool... no you don't look stupid wearing a parka in the middle of July because you're so skinny that you're freezing... dumbasses.
I do not think they should be banned. They are good and bad. It just depends on which sites. Some welcome new users and actually promote people "catching" an ED. Although I have frequented some before I do not suggest anyone using them just to get sicker. That being said people need to talk to someone and anorexia is an isolating disease.
sadly.... pro ana sites almost kill me..... i know i was the one who decided to do everything, but i am sure i wouldnt had gone so sick if i didnt have acces to pro ana tips and tricks...
For all those who do not think that these horrendous websites, do trigger and do encourage and inspire. 45% percent of the girls in my clinic aggree that it does. If you are close to the edge, these web sites will push you over the top. Definition of Thinwa- a declaration of thin and usually healthy people that go against the consumption of a food. Thinspiration= a person thinspiration is always a image or photograph that is an inspiration to not seek help or stay thin.
What I always wondered is that if people are on these websites and see that so many other people have anorexia, wouldn't that make them feel as if their anorexia is okay and normal, therefore leading them /not/ to try and fix it? Just a thought.
I dont think they shoulld be banned, its not illegal to have a mental illness therefore it should not be scensored. Its just websites with a bunch of sick people groaning about being sick and feeding their disorders. Which is sad but not against any laws. Its not snuff films and kiddie porn its chicks not eating. and to say they trigger isint true, ive struggled with eating disorders and seen the sites and i can say first hand the problem was already there before i found any website.
@bijouxmiu they CAN and do trigger eating disorders. I also have an eating disorder, and I can tell you that looking at those sites has done nothing but harm for me. It perpetuates this sick mindset and encourages me to starve more. It's awful, yet I can't get myself away from this crap.
@guaranteedgay I am glad you can see the real message of this horrendous website that does inspire, and does trigger. I wish you could find perhaps a recovery web site so you can post how you feel but not feel like you are being encouraged to keep up this disorder. I would be happy to have you write me if you need to chat.
@bijouxmiu I am a doctor that specializes in eating disorders. 45% percent of my girls say that these websites do trigger. Not only that but it inspires and encourages girls to stay thin and do not recover. If they are on the edge of disorder, it has put them over the top. Just because you do not have a trigger doesnt mean someone else doesnt have a trigger.
@transientsmile Why because he has been sucked into this cult of horrendous websites that trigger anorexia and bulimia or inspire these young confused girls that want to look like models and actresses. Or is the wonderful tips that they send out on how to hide your period or vomiting from you parents, or how to starve yourself better. wake up
Indeed i agree what is disgusting to a non ano sufferer is not to someone with and ED and they may become a home for this people to feel understood. However image for say, a 10 year old girl, whos life is falling apart because her parents are splitting and she has no control, so she looks for control in food, then she visits these websites and minipulative people tell her she can be beautiful if she becomes anorexia and ana is control. So she develop it. Still think its good....
@tuttt99 Hmm wrong you are,actually anorexia is the number one killer of young girls. The dehydration, starvation, lack of pottasium, heart damage, brain damage and organ damage put them at very high risks of death, added on to that because they cannot find a way out, sucicide. The reverse thinspro is the worse web site I have ever seen, making fun of obese people, encourages these young confused girls not to eat, why because they do not want to look like them. Sadly, you are wrong
In the majority of US states, one in four people are obese, leading to heart disease, joint problems, type 2 diabetes, kidney failure, you name it. Why do you see so many dialysis clinics these days when they were unheard of a decade ago?
By contrast, those with anorexia leading to complications are 0.1 to 1% of the population maximum, (Walker and Keller Study, 1995,64).
Obesity is a much greater problem than anorexia. FACT
In my experience, when I shared with people that I was struggling with an eating disorder & showed them pro-ana sites... they were horrified at the content. But for me, they offer a place of total understanding and acceptance, which is impossible to find anywhere else. When the whole world is telling you you're crazy, it's nice to find people who understand. My pro-ana friends inspired me to get better from my ED. They helped me do it and they made me realise I wasn't insane - just ill.
@FindingTranscendence I think it is great that you find a place to talk about yournd condition, I find it horrendous that these thinspro and thinspiration encourage starvation, and ED as a lifestyle and they glorify the ED and it can trigger anorexia, and it does.
@decompoiq That is why it is called the underworld because these girl are finding a place to persue there dreams of being anorexic and they know that they will not be able to trace their little cult. It is lies, all lies thin is not perfect, it is dangerous and deadly and it kills 10,000 girls a year., I am a doctor I deal with this every day
It is impossible to filter the pro ana websites. However, suffering with EDs for years, the worst thing you could do to anorexic and bulimic ppl is take control away from them. Most of the time, tht is what the eating disorder is about. So i dont think that you should take "their rights" away from them. Also, with these sights, ppl who have not ever had an ED can understand the severity of one.
@TheMalloryjayde No, just allow the girls to keep encouraging themselves and others to starve themselves. That is why this is called the underworld, so they cannot be traced and banned. Meanwhile, it is ripping lives apart, these sites are sucicide to young girls who think there is nothing better than looking like a starving model or actress
having suffered from pretty much every ED out there... and having used Proana websites to fuel my disorder... The idea of getting rid of them sounds nice. However... totally impossible. They would just pop back up under other names. Eating disorders are a world wide issue. banning them in one country wouldn't do a thing. And I think it's a person's right to put whatever they want on the web, right or wrong...
Where does it stop? pro anorexic websites, while I dont support them, are between consenting people. Perhaps a age limit would be more realistic? Perhaps they should concentrate on pedophilia and websites that actively harm others, then moral grey grounds like pro anna/mia.
watching the thinspiration video's make me want to eat, but overweight teenage girls might see the videos and think that you have to stop eating to be healthy, alot of girls are not even anorexic on the pro ana websites, alot of them are just teenage girls that need some good education on fitness and nutrition. alot of them are anorexic and do need help. dont think they should ban the websites, i dont beleive in censorship, its a moral issue. .
I frequent a bulimic support website which forbids members to ask or share tips on 'how to'. I have been suffering with this for nearly 10 years and having a space to go and sort through issues around my E.D. is priceless. If I had discovered it earlier I might already be better
@Emthirteen Good for you to find that website and go be sucked into this horrendous websites that are used to encourage and inspire anorexia and bulimia as well as trigger. I do hope you recover from you illness and continue to post your good message, for it is clear that you can see the truth
@Oracle176x Bull crap, you are wrong. That is what these websites do. They encouage, inspire and teach young girls tips and tricks to stay thin, emaciated or not seek help.These sites have opened a whole new world of interaction but the darker trends are emerging extol grave eating disorders and showing them as a glamous lifestyle, which claim millions of active users. I deal with this every day in my young girls, 45% percent admit that these web sites pushed them over the top.
I'm pro ana. And you seem to know what you're talking about. But you were wrong about one thing. Pro ana/thinspiration websites CAN make you anorexic. I went to one thinking it was stupid and then a week later I decided to stop eating. They had good reasons to become ana. And I felt horribly fat after looking at the thinspo pictures. Anyone reading this, DON'T go to a pro ana website. It's like a drug. It's addictive and it can ruin your life!
I think its damn near impossible to say visiting one of those websites can make someone anorexic. Its just a conduit for something that is bound to happen for someone with mental problems. Most people in the world would see thinspo pictures and be revolted.
I know that. The pictures looked beautiful to me so I must've been screwed up to begin with. But going to the website probably "sparked" my inner ana.
@RandolphRatings Good for you to see that, because way more than half do not see it that way, they are just inspired to keep starving themselves and not go into recovery
@RandolphRatings What a great message you have sent, finally someone that can see the truth of these horrifying web sites. I am very sorry however that you do have the disorder and will help you anyway that I can, if you need to chat I am here. Good for you however to post this so others might see your post and think about what they are doing.
I don't agree with censorship either. I do believe in dreaming. You should check out Tollie Schmidt OnlyaDreamer152 video channel. He used to weigh over 500 pounds and he has an amazing mind set. Not out bashing anyone different. There is not always a right or wrong.
I almost died of anorexia a while ago (BMI 11,8). I was hospitalized. And being able to talk to ppl on pro-ana sites who understood me actually helped me to recover - or starting recovery is probably more correct cause before that i actually didn't want to recover. It's probably hard for most ppl to understand why we do this and it would be wrong to close down sites cause they actually also help you to recover when you're ready. Most pro-ana sites are against anorexia in the stage of dead.
You should never ban anything, freedom of speech is very important.
But I have to correct you on something.. ProAnas are people who say that Anorexia is a lifestyle and not a horrible disease... it can be harmfull for young boys and girls to visit such sites because the disease is being sold to them as the perfect way of life..
I totally agree with you about this type of government censorship. Anorexia can be a horribly debilitating condition... i know a guy who's nearly died from it several times. But censoring websites will do absolutely nothing to prevent someone from developing the condition and nothing to help anyone who has it.
Government censorship will do nothing but allow certain political appointees to impose their personal (usually narrow-minded) values on everyone else.
i love pro ana it inspires me to keep losing weight, but i'm still eating but im not anorexic, i just started excercizing it helped. it didn't make me anorexic.
i love pro ana websites. i mean they help ALOT. but who can tell me what i can and can not see on the internet.......but oh wait i live in america! so i have nothing to worry about! and you can not "catch" ana geez....
Lost of pro ana sites give me tips and stuff, but they have blogging areas and chat things so I can say whatever and not have parents wanting to put me into hospital! It bugs me when people intervene, and if I can talk to other girls who have anorexia without being bugged, I think it'd just be better. I don't want ana sites to be banned, because they are safe for me...
They don't give you tips on how to be anorexic, just tips on how to lose weight. They shouldn't die, it's my outlet, it's how I receive comfort, among other things. Why did you tell me that I should die??? Nobody deserves to die....
[continued]... so that the government can manipulate everyone according to what they want us to think (as they always do), it is a medical condition not a trend (like they are trying to tell us) and people with anorexia don't "decide" to be anorexic. its a serious matter, but no amount of money will stop the internet sites... hope this helps! i'm going to sign the petition now... :)
i haven't had much experience with anorexia but i googled it after my friend said some things that kind of worried me. also a girl at school had anorexia (she is recovered now so don't worry). i agree with everything you have said: the content is questionable however some girls need these websites, filtering doesn't work (they simply change the location of the site), sensoring is objective to personal opinions or selective populations that have a majority against anorexia sites... [continued]
I used to have anorexia, I had it on and off since I was 16. I'm fine now. Pro ana websites made me feel more motivated, also I felt better that other people were going through the same thing. Although it didn't help my eating disorder, taking the websites down would in no way encourage me, or anyone else with the disease to stop. Like he said in the video, there are deeper causes for the disease than images or these websites. Anorexia will not go away unless these issues are properly treated.
these pro ana websites are full of "diets" that have killed people, im all for support groups on the internet. i'm in training to be a mental health nurse and although i dont believe a eating disrder can be "caught" off the internet, i do believe it can be advanced. These websites dont support suffers, it makes them feel that want they are going though is a way of life whn they are actually very sick
Wow, you're so intelligent. Cute aswell! I agree with everything that you said, except about the bit where you say the suggestion that pro-ana websites trigger people, is "absurd". I mean "pro-ana" is short for "promoting anorexia". These sites idolise people who are rich, thin, successful, attracive etc, and make people feel that in order to be happy, they to need to be that thin. Someone may have a bad day at school, go on a pro-ana site later on and not eat the next day. See the problem?
They have a right to exist Pro-Ana sites that are there only for support should be OK I agree. However I completely disagree with those that promote it and give tips on how to loose weight, they should definitely be banned. I was bulimic for 3 years and I have never met one sufferer of either anorexia or bulimia who would ever encourage other people to suffer like they did I know i certainly wouldn't.
I did. I suffered from bulimia for like a year, and I suppose if I felt like if more people suffered from it aswell, then I wouldn't feel so alone. That was when I was in a very dark place. Put it this way, I was at the point where I wasn't worried for my health or what it was doing to me. I was worried about my teeth rotting, from throwing up. How screwed up is that? It almost didn't seem fair that other people were so comfortable in their own skin, when I wasn't. Of couse, now, I realise....
I think that there should be websites for anorexics to relate and all that, but all of the websites saying that anorexia is "so awesome" and "beneficial" should be banned, if possible. Those websites aren't doing anything for anybody. Anorexics need help, not people telling them that it's all good, or people who want to resort to anorexia will look at those websites that make it out to be something better than it is. Anorexia should be thought of as bad and never portrayed as a good thing.
More people die every year from obesity than anorexia. If people with a mental illness want to support each other, they have that right. If you want to censor the content of pro ana websites and videos, then there needs to be censorship of fast food ads...it is very similar to pro ana...it's called pro fat...and it has reached epidemic standards. Lets leave these girls alone and focus on the millions of people with obesity.
I said that their should be websites supporting people with the illness. Can you not read?
I never said obesity was good, but neither is anorexia. It would be better if everyone was of a healthy weight, but that's not the case. This particular video is about anorexia, not obesity, so that was irrelevant.
Since when are food ads "pro fat"? HAHAHA damn you sound really dumb. Food places/grocery stores/etc are actual businesses. Websites about how awesome anorexia is, are not.
I suffer from anorexia nervosa, and i think that pro ana should have a voice. I am in recovery and i find that these girls and boys on the sites are very theraputic and understanding. when i'm having a bad day i can just talk to them. YES I AM PRO-ANA, NO I DO NOT PROMOTE EATING DISORDERS.
I however believe that by labelling these websites as triggering does not mean people can 'catch' the disease it can however influence body image issues that are present.
I think they mean trigger someone who is suffering the illness or trying to recover.
I have suffered an eating disorder, and you first find these sites as helpful to lose more weight, now however i realise just how damaging it was to me psychologically and in turn physically
I don't feel they should be banned (that's basically impossible and a waste of government time and spending) and it's also censorship of the web, which is concerning with regard to freedom of speech related rights. Perhaps more damaging to these websites are ones with with body composition calculators and other tests (I found out I was only .1 below underweight and felt it was not 'enough'). I know this is stemming from something psychological, but still, these websites do more harm than pro-ana
Yeah, BMI's only an indicator, yet it's used to determine wheter people are "underweight", "healthy", or "overweght". These "BMI calculators" don't take into account that person's bone-density, muscle-mass, water-mass etc etc. According to BMI my absolute perfect weight would be 162lbs, but at the gym they took into account my bone denisty etc, and it came back I should weigh 185lbs. These BMI calculators, wrongly convince people they need to lose/gain weight on a daily basis!
Wow. I definitely have arguments on both sides of this. I suffer from anorexia (mildly-sounds absurd but basically true). I honestly believe what set me off was a comment someone made me (not-related to weight) and my perfectionist personality. Thinspiration/pro-ana websites don't do the initial damage. However, I find as time goes on, I'll tell myself to eat or just give in, and these websites and videos help me to combat that inner force telling me how my body actually feels.
No if people can watch porn and post about religion and have websites up full of thar stuuf other people including people with Anna should be able to be just as free on the internet.
you know pro ana site helped me a lot because i found people who can undestand my suffering , i'm not really proana , i'm hyperpgagic and it's really a hell i can't stop eatiing or even stop thinking about food and i'm not fat at all or even skinny i just look normal , so in this site i can talk about it i can feel more free
so that is why i belive they should not be censored due to the fact that i belive certain people have more of a disposition to get and ed and a website will not "give" them one!
I LOVE you your the only non-anorexic/bulimic who actualy gets it. I was fully prepared to watch this and hate everything you said but i was pleasantly suprised
I suffer from both anorexia and bulimia and i find these sites as less of a anorexia thing and more of a extream diet thing though my ed did stem from dieting such as this i know some who have been on these websites and it has no effect..
Whilst I at times have found some things triggering, for the most part it has been helpful in working through and understanding my illness to liase openly with other sufferers without fear of judgement. Thanks again for your insight !
Good on you! It'sgreat u have such insight into this very complex disease. I live in Aust and have struggled with Anorexia for 9 yrs now . I most definetely did not "catch it" through pro-ana sites. Infact I don't think I even knew they existed when I first got diagnosed and its only in recent years that I have come across them. ED's are sorely misunderstood and the stigma associated is that we are all vain and starving for attention...it goes so much deeper than that.
Ignorance is a blessing and a curse, id rather be in the know than not to know. It would be a violation to all citizens in a democracy to not show them or block things they perceive as therapeutic, or simply informative. I have never had problems with anorexia, lord knows i should but thats another story. Imagine if they start with this and next thing they will block is Porn, GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY, that would be a sad sad! day for ALL! Australia, fat, thin, gay or not gay.
ive had experience with anorexia, and I completely agree with everything you've said. I really respect you for not nessecarily agreeing with the content of the wesites, but still respecting their rights to exist. Anorexia is not something that can be caught, and it's not a trend, its a disease and I think the people with the disease are completely misunderstood. Thankyou <3
ive researched on some pro ana sites and find them not at all therapeutic or a "safe" space. Theres a site with a section called 100MUST-KNOW-TIPS eg : paint your nails to cover the blueish colour u get on your nails due to starvation. Many tips and pictures encourages you to starve and it really feels like a brain washing machine. The skinny pictures of models make viewers feel worse about their own body. which then makes them ANA
the internet should never be censored, Anorexia glorified, nazis marching, junkies shooting up, some dumb bitch having sex with a horse or something. I'd rather include them all in my world of accessible information than have anything censored by some government instilled moral compass. If you treat a people like retards unable to think for themselves that's what you will end up with.
however, i exclude those websites showing thinspo from the beneficial type. such websites, though you say otherwise in your video, can indeed trigger the disorder. some people are genetically predisposed to eating disorders and even something small like that can set it off.
and for us anorexics, such images can cause relapses rather quickly. i've not much of an opinion on the actual filtering, but i disagree with what you said about the actual sights not triggering
There are plenty of website filtering programs out there for use on home or school computers, have been for years. Instead of spending millions of dollars reinventing the wheel or trying to improve the wheel they could be educating the public on how they can 'protect' themselves if that's what they want to do! Leave some responsibility up to the public instead of blanketting us with what they feel we all need. Merry almost new years Rob!
Rob, I agree with you in the fact that your government's attempt to "filter" content is shady at best. Very shady. It's surprising to find (through you comments) that the Aussie's don't have a Bill Of Rights ensuring a minimal number of freedoms!! YIKES!! As for the sites - while I doubt they can provide any REAL therapeutic benefit to the TRUE anorexic. Maybe sharing might lead them to help but that is shaky at best. Thanks for bringing this to light, Rob. Cheers to you!!
PS. Rob I have couple of MYSPACE pages and a YOUTUBE page and am a member of a bulletin board style forum. Can I post this video on them to bring up these matters to anyone who might be Australian & or helpful to these causes? Thanks!
I completely agree! And really if you think about it, that form of censorship takes away the rights of the people. I mean, i don't know how the Australian government works, but MOST of the time the American government stands up for the rights of the people (excluding prop 8, which is terrible anyway), so this is a terrible form of oppression. And oppression by the government is a grave crime against freedom of the people.
As a counselor who has had to deal with women and young girls (as well as men dealing with eating disorders), I CAN NOT agree with you on this point. You do make some good discusion that hopefully calls attenion to the plight, but the reality of the situation is that the shame that causes this can't be discussed within the contents of this response. I am concerned about the response of your government. Please contact me for more assistance.
This is the biggest assault on free speech in the Western world that I've heard of. I don't know what your guarantees are to free speech in Australia, but you should cause as much of a stir over this as possible.
Australia is the only developed country without a Bill of Rights. So at this point in time they can legally do this without any problem. One problem has come from our major telecommunication companies not agreeing to take part, making it more difficult for the government. But they are still pushing on with the proposal, which is why the petition still needs to be signed. BUT, no Bill of Rights means we are dependant on the common law and the shaky foundations of parliament to protect our rights
Censorship is often worse than whatever it attempts to suppress.
My next door neighbor has anorexia. It has made her bedridden, nearly killing her. Her ankles are the size of most women's wrists. She supposedly is now getting treatment after many years of denying that she had a problem. I had to go in her house when she was first hospitalized & was surprised to see how much food she had; she would buy food, but not eat it. And when she did eat, she would immediately exercise it off.
A lot to think about. What do I think? That it is a disorder and hopefully the people that have it have the will power to fight it. Although I don't think banning websites is the answer. Very interesting!
Hey Rob, Loved this post... now don't get a big head, but, you're smart... but most politicians don't think we are smart and endup pushing or spinning censorship.
Wonderful video. I think its wrong for any form of government to cripple the people into not viewing certain things. I love how in an attempt at Freedom for everyone, it seems that most freedoms are taken away so everyone feels "Equal". No one really wants to feel equal, they just want to feel the way the Happy people feel. As for Anorexia sites like you mentioned, I think there are bigger problems both on the internet and real life that the government doesnt need to cripple something like that.
Not band. I dont want the government interfering with my viewing content. In all honestly, anorexia I think is not a well rewound disease that requires this type of approach. The condition is easily recognizable and can be stopped by mere work of family and friends.
The Australian government, couldn't more clearly, have alternate motives. If we fail to recognize that our media is 100% controlled by the government, than we will fail to see other freedoms taken away.
I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's "mere work" that would stop it, because if you've seen Ana's Story, as most, if not all, Australians would have seen during high school, it is no mean feat to conquer this condition. But I do agree that censorship is the wrong approach
Sometimes I think that people look for a quick fix to a problem. Blaming the internet for problems like anorexia is like how they used to blame television for lots of other behaviors.
Although, I have friends who blame my homosexuality on the 60s TV show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea..All those sailors in a submarine, I guess...I have to admit that still has some appeal for me....Because of TV I desire hot uniformed men at sea..(thanks, TV)!
Thanks for the substantial video (during the Christmas season no less!). I agree with AECSRQ that "pro-Anoerexia" is problematic; if the sites truly offered the needed service of providing a place for people dealing with anorexia to tell their stories, they would style themselves a support group. However, censorship is wrong; discussion with the sites' owners about the name could prove helpful.
Regulation would be ideal, but very impractical, but I certainly agree that while these sites don't always have the healthiest content, banning or censoring them is completely the wrong thing to be doing
if someone put up web sites called 'Pro Cancer' or 'Pro Schizophrenia' we would rightly question their strategy if not their sanity. "pro" conveys that you are in favor of or promote whatever word follows... at the very least, "Pro Anorexia" is a poor use of language.
cute.!
thethecat100 2 weeks ago
I agree with you man, that is so right
you can't catch anorexia, some of these people just wana get thin.
silverstorm1000 1 month ago
"Engaging with the voice of anorexia which has been stifled by the expertise of others" is the best thing i've ever heard any1 say! Having been in hospital with anorexia, i can tell u others intervening is the most "triggering" thing ive experienced to date. Pro ana sites can trigger u, mostly theyre just VERY calming. Knowing there are others out there who have the same thoughts & being able 2 talk anonymously about ur worries is therapeutic and beneficial to ppl w anorexia NOT triggering
angelab1993 5 months ago
You are some sort of hero dude!! keep up with the good work !
estuardopalencia2 6 months ago
haha, i know someone who looks so much like you. except he's american. but ANYWAY. that's all i really have to say.
itstubbytime 9 months ago
I fully agree with the principle of anti-censorship. However, pro-ana sites are very controversial, and more harmful than you make out in that video. Censorship should never be embraced lightly, but sometimes it's necessary. For example incitement to commit homicide or advocating violence against ethnic groups should not be publicised and thus passively approved. When considering pro-ED sites, the severity and the distribution of the content should be considered. I don't know what to think.
sphuit 9 months ago
hahah that kid that broke that supercode is the man :)
tahlia1992 10 months ago
i hope they don't ban them
TearsofaGhost 10 months ago
thats so no cool
dtxqrs46 11 months ago
Anorexia for fags
rozzalenda123 11 months ago
looooserr.
it helps so much.
StephanieeBieber 1 year ago
i agree with youuuu!!
stephyrose14 1 year ago
@AnnicellaMe you could be fat and be anorexic, anorexic means that you hate your weight, you always think your fat, you real want to change. Do your reserch love
misskawaiinevil 1 year ago
@misskawaiinevil From a clinical standpoint, no, you can't be fat and anorexic. That's called EDNOS. The "requirements" of anorexia are pretty strict.
JakeTheMarshmellow 1 year ago
@misskawaiinevil agrred =D, thats so true, someppl just think u hav to be thin already to be anorexic
KJ7FrozenHeart 10 months ago
Those ppl who call themselves Pro Ana are mostly not thin...they wanted to be thin. They are a joke =D
AnnicellaMe 1 year ago
love this
you make so much sense
rachelb55 1 year ago
Annorexia off the Internet, no, wannarexia off the Internet maybe... I wrote an essay on this last year and don't really have a straightforward opinion because we can't treat society like children and keep them in ignorance, hiding pro Ana would do just that but on the other hand it may be causing anorexia.. Say you don't know how to cope, if you've never heard of anorexia it's less likely for you to starve yourself correct? At the same time I don't want to be sensored on my Internet access so
cassidyteufel 1 year ago
I was anorexic than i was recovered and i had no alimentar desorders.than i become bulimic.Trust me i saw all faces of these "problems?" .According to me u can be anorexic, bulimic, bed or simply "normal?", world doesnt change.
Silvietts 1 year ago
I get what you're saying in your video, but I disagree that these websites don't cause a trigger, they most certainly can for those who are impressionable. Alot of girls on various recovery sites have said that pro-ana sites definitely triggered them into a mindset - especially sites that chastise those for not doing enough to lose weight.
PuffyAmiYumi 1 year ago
THINSPIRATION. As a person who make Male Thinspiration Videos on YouTube and has a section of photographs on my magazine website, I think there is a fine line between healthy and unhealthy.
I use the term thinspiration to celebrate having a thin form. I do this because all my life people make comments like "eat a cheeseburger" or "I can see through you". While some people may take that in pos manner, I felt as if it's hurtful. I support people loving their body. It's ok to be thin. xoxo
Justen 1 year ago
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anorexics are almost as disgusting as alchoholics. Yeahhhh baby looking hot with your ribs sticking out... Ohh your spine sticking out is so cool... no you don't look stupid wearing a parka in the middle of July because you're so skinny that you're freezing... dumbasses.
beckasha83 1 year ago
I do not think they should be banned. They are good and bad. It just depends on which sites. Some welcome new users and actually promote people "catching" an ED. Although I have frequented some before I do not suggest anyone using them just to get sicker. That being said people need to talk to someone and anorexia is an isolating disease.
EDEmpower 1 year ago
sadly.... pro ana sites almost kill me..... i know i was the one who decided to do everything, but i am sure i wouldnt had gone so sick if i didnt have acces to pro ana tips and tricks...
pinilla94 1 year ago
Pro-ana? should be pro-recovery
supremejello 1 year ago
Hmmm I Can DEFINATLY See Both Sides Of This! Tricky Situation..
XWatchAndWaitX 1 year ago
For all those who do not think that these horrendous websites, do trigger and do encourage and inspire. 45% percent of the girls in my clinic aggree that it does. If you are close to the edge, these web sites will push you over the top. Definition of Thinwa- a declaration of thin and usually healthy people that go against the consumption of a food. Thinspiration= a person thinspiration is always a image or photograph that is an inspiration to not seek help or stay thin.
elibeth121 1 year ago
What I always wondered is that if people are on these websites and see that so many other people have anorexia, wouldn't that make them feel as if their anorexia is okay and normal, therefore leading them /not/ to try and fix it? Just a thought.
cheersforale 1 year ago
@cheersforale Yes clearly, so glad to you can see the real message of this and not be sucked into this horrendous website
elibeth121 1 year ago
fag,
hyperseauton 1 year ago
I dont think they shoulld be banned, its not illegal to have a mental illness therefore it should not be scensored. Its just websites with a bunch of sick people groaning about being sick and feeding their disorders. Which is sad but not against any laws. Its not snuff films and kiddie porn its chicks not eating. and to say they trigger isint true, ive struggled with eating disorders and seen the sites and i can say first hand the problem was already there before i found any website.
bijouxmiu 1 year ago
@bijouxmiu they CAN and do trigger eating disorders. I also have an eating disorder, and I can tell you that looking at those sites has done nothing but harm for me. It perpetuates this sick mindset and encourages me to starve more. It's awful, yet I can't get myself away from this crap.
They absolutely should be banned.
guaranteedgay 1 year ago 2
@guaranteedgay I am glad you can see the real message of this horrendous website that does inspire, and does trigger. I wish you could find perhaps a recovery web site so you can post how you feel but not feel like you are being encouraged to keep up this disorder. I would be happy to have you write me if you need to chat.
elibeth121 1 year ago
@bijouxmiu I am a doctor that specializes in eating disorders. 45% percent of my girls say that these websites do trigger. Not only that but it inspires and encourages girls to stay thin and do not recover. If they are on the edge of disorder, it has put them over the top. Just because you do not have a trigger doesnt mean someone else doesnt have a trigger.
elibeth121 1 year ago
I've never seen any of your videos before so I know nothing about you, but I can imagine you being a a good lawyer :p
transientsmile 1 year ago
@transientsmile Why because he has been sucked into this cult of horrendous websites that trigger anorexia and bulimia or inspire these young confused girls that want to look like models and actresses. Or is the wonderful tips that they send out on how to hide your period or vomiting from you parents, or how to starve yourself better. wake up
elibeth121 1 year ago
i just love listening to you talk
TrappedButterflyInc 1 year ago
they should never be taken down
muna4eva 1 year ago
@muna4eva Should be taken down they do trigger, they inspire, encourage and give tips of how to better starve themselves.
elibeth121 1 year ago
Indeed i agree what is disgusting to a non ano sufferer is not to someone with and ED and they may become a home for this people to feel understood. However image for say, a 10 year old girl, whos life is falling apart because her parents are splitting and she has no control, so she looks for control in food, then she visits these websites and minipulative people tell her she can be beautiful if she becomes anorexia and ana is control. So she develop it. Still think its good....
MrWhiteTrash1 1 year ago
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advaschechel 1 year ago
im pretty sure your gay..... right? lol nice opening thingy!
missybooms 1 year ago
Why are pro-ana sites banned or censored, but fat acceptance sites are encouraged?
I'll wager that morbid obesity kills and/or disables more people than anorexia.
If people want to discourage anorexia and bulimia, I am fine with that, but also disourage fat acceptance if you are going to be consistent.
And censorship is NOT the answer!
tuttt99 1 year ago 3
@tuttt99 totally agree
keanera8 1 year ago
@tuttt99 Hmm wrong you are,actually anorexia is the number one killer of young girls. The dehydration, starvation, lack of pottasium, heart damage, brain damage and organ damage put them at very high risks of death, added on to that because they cannot find a way out, sucicide. The reverse thinspro is the worse web site I have ever seen, making fun of obese people, encourages these young confused girls not to eat, why because they do not want to look like them. Sadly, you are wrong
elibeth121 1 year ago
@elibeth121
The statistics do not support your assertion
In the majority of US states, one in four people are obese, leading to heart disease, joint problems, type 2 diabetes, kidney failure, you name it. Why do you see so many dialysis clinics these days when they were unheard of a decade ago?
By contrast, those with anorexia leading to complications are 0.1 to 1% of the population maximum, (Walker and Keller Study, 1995,64).
Obesity is a much greater problem than anorexia. FACT
tuttt99 1 year ago
i like the way u talk:)
sandrunia178 1 year ago
the point of the internet that I love is that it is free. Without the grit and dirt that is on the web It would be boring like G rated tv.
TheDayWeAwake 2 years ago
what a freak
PiggyKlinsmen 2 years ago
In my experience, when I shared with people that I was struggling with an eating disorder & showed them pro-ana sites... they were horrified at the content. But for me, they offer a place of total understanding and acceptance, which is impossible to find anywhere else. When the whole world is telling you you're crazy, it's nice to find people who understand. My pro-ana friends inspired me to get better from my ED. They helped me do it and they made me realise I wasn't insane - just ill.
FindingTranscendence 2 years ago 11
@FindingTranscendence I think it is great that you find a place to talk about yournd condition, I find it horrendous that these thinspro and thinspiration encourage starvation, and ED as a lifestyle and they glorify the ED and it can trigger anorexia, and it does.
elibeth121 1 year ago
thank you for making me not lose faith entirely in the human race.
the act of banning simply pushes matters underground.
decompoiq 2 years ago 2
@decompoiq That is why it is called the underworld because these girl are finding a place to persue there dreams of being anorexic and they know that they will not be able to trace their little cult. It is lies, all lies thin is not perfect, it is dangerous and deadly and it kills 10,000 girls a year., I am a doctor I deal with this every day
elibeth121 1 year ago
thats a good thing they should stop the offensive content ...like pro ana sites...its sad ...makes me sad.
jammjam08 2 years ago
your ntelligence is impressive.
Why don't more people try and just research things.
Vielen Dank for the breath of fresh air
CrucifiedToADream 2 years ago 4
It is impossible to filter the pro ana websites. However, suffering with EDs for years, the worst thing you could do to anorexic and bulimic ppl is take control away from them. Most of the time, tht is what the eating disorder is about. So i dont think that you should take "their rights" away from them. Also, with these sights, ppl who have not ever had an ED can understand the severity of one.
TheMalloryjayde7 2 years ago
Very true. I had not thought of that.
nadiaw00t 2 years ago 3
@TheMalloryjayde No, just allow the girls to keep encouraging themselves and others to starve themselves. That is why this is called the underworld, so they cannot be traced and banned. Meanwhile, it is ripping lives apart, these sites are sucicide to young girls who think there is nothing better than looking like a starving model or actress
elibeth121 1 year ago
having suffered from pretty much every ED out there... and having used Proana websites to fuel my disorder... The idea of getting rid of them sounds nice. However... totally impossible. They would just pop back up under other names. Eating disorders are a world wide issue. banning them in one country wouldn't do a thing. And I think it's a person's right to put whatever they want on the web, right or wrong...
somanydays 2 years ago
@somanydays Of course they will pop back up, why does one want to keep these girls from inspiring other girls to diet and starve themselves.
elibeth121 1 year ago
Where does it stop? pro anorexic websites, while I dont support them, are between consenting people. Perhaps a age limit would be more realistic? Perhaps they should concentrate on pedophilia and websites that actively harm others, then moral grey grounds like pro anna/mia.
SlaveCharolette 2 years ago
watching the thinspiration video's make me want to eat, but overweight teenage girls might see the videos and think that you have to stop eating to be healthy, alot of girls are not even anorexic on the pro ana websites, alot of them are just teenage girls that need some good education on fitness and nutrition. alot of them are anorexic and do need help. dont think they should ban the websites, i dont beleive in censorship, its a moral issue. .
iamadumpling 2 years ago
You wanna be friends with Ana or Mia ? I don´t wanna be friends with either ! So kiss my ass Ana and Mia.
ambera15 2 years ago
you look a little bit like patrick wolf :)
whatkindofpies 2 years ago
I frequent a bulimic support website which forbids members to ask or share tips on 'how to'. I have been suffering with this for nearly 10 years and having a space to go and sort through issues around my E.D. is priceless. If I had discovered it earlier I might already be better
Emthirteen 2 years ago 2
@Emthirteen Good for you to find that website and go be sucked into this horrendous websites that are used to encourage and inspire anorexia and bulimia as well as trigger. I do hope you recover from you illness and continue to post your good message, for it is clear that you can see the truth
elibeth121 1 year ago
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MandyByken 2 years ago
@Oracle176x Bull crap, you are wrong. That is what these websites do. They encouage, inspire and teach young girls tips and tricks to stay thin, emaciated or not seek help.These sites have opened a whole new world of interaction but the darker trends are emerging extol grave eating disorders and showing them as a glamous lifestyle, which claim millions of active users. I deal with this every day in my young girls, 45% percent admit that these web sites pushed them over the top.
elibeth121 1 year ago
I'm pro ana. And you seem to know what you're talking about. But you were wrong about one thing. Pro ana/thinspiration websites CAN make you anorexic. I went to one thinking it was stupid and then a week later I decided to stop eating. They had good reasons to become ana. And I felt horribly fat after looking at the thinspo pictures. Anyone reading this, DON'T go to a pro ana website. It's like a drug. It's addictive and it can ruin your life!
RandolphRatings 2 years ago
I think its damn near impossible to say visiting one of those websites can make someone anorexic. Its just a conduit for something that is bound to happen for someone with mental problems. Most people in the world would see thinspo pictures and be revolted.
In other words, its not the "wesite's fault"
monkeydog2332 2 years ago
I know that. The pictures looked beautiful to me so I must've been screwed up to begin with. But going to the website probably "sparked" my inner ana.
RandolphRatings 2 years ago
@RandolphRatings Good for you to see that, because way more than half do not see it that way, they are just inspired to keep starving themselves and not go into recovery
elibeth121 1 year ago
@RandolphRatings What a great message you have sent, finally someone that can see the truth of these horrifying web sites. I am very sorry however that you do have the disorder and will help you anyway that I can, if you need to chat I am here. Good for you however to post this so others might see your post and think about what they are doing.
elibeth121 1 year ago
I am pro ana. Thanks for being understanding and supporting our rights to have our communities.
GivenchyWitch 2 years ago
I wish you didn't edit your video so much...it's distracting from what you are trying to say.
skliffy 2 years ago
one cant censor humanity...its only normal that we are abnormal
spotsoncows 2 years ago
I don't agree with censorship either. I do believe in dreaming. You should check out Tollie Schmidt OnlyaDreamer152 video channel. He used to weigh over 500 pounds and he has an amazing mind set. Not out bashing anyone different. There is not always a right or wrong.
musclejoe16 2 years ago
I almost died of anorexia a while ago (BMI 11,8). I was hospitalized. And being able to talk to ppl on pro-ana sites who understood me actually helped me to recover - or starting recovery is probably more correct cause before that i actually didn't want to recover. It's probably hard for most ppl to understand why we do this and it would be wrong to close down sites cause they actually also help you to recover when you're ready. Most pro-ana sites are against anorexia in the stage of dead.
RunningInterference 2 years ago 20
@RunningInterference I Am Recovering Atm And I Find They Help Me
MasterKaii 1 year ago
You should never ban anything, freedom of speech is very important.
But I have to correct you on something.. ProAnas are people who say that Anorexia is a lifestyle and not a horrible disease... it can be harmfull for young boys and girls to visit such sites because the disease is being sold to them as the perfect way of life..
BlueCoffeeDK 2 years ago 2
I don't see how anyone can be anorexic.
George Carlin on Anorexics and Bulimia:
watch?v=N9_v-o_eFps
Airportchris2 2 years ago
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RunningInterference 2 years ago
I totally agree with you about this type of government censorship. Anorexia can be a horribly debilitating condition... i know a guy who's nearly died from it several times. But censoring websites will do absolutely nothing to prevent someone from developing the condition and nothing to help anyone who has it.
Government censorship will do nothing but allow certain political appointees to impose their personal (usually narrow-minded) values on everyone else.
g950p 2 years ago
i love pro ana it inspires me to keep losing weight, but i'm still eating but im not anorexic, i just started excercizing it helped. it didn't make me anorexic.
shtfsth 2 years ago 2
i love pro ana websites. i mean they help ALOT. but who can tell me what i can and can not see on the internet.......but oh wait i live in america! so i have nothing to worry about! and you can not "catch" ana geez....
volleyball994pimp 2 years ago
If you think that there isn't already crazy censorship in America then you're delusional I'm afraid. Yank's seem to live in their own world.
89andahalf 2 years ago
not you, the one little bitch i replied to. her ☛MyLadyofGenki
fuckstupidppl69 2 years ago
Lost of pro ana sites give me tips and stuff, but they have blogging areas and chat things so I can say whatever and not have parents wanting to put me into hospital! It bugs me when people intervene, and if I can talk to other girls who have anorexia without being bugged, I think it'd just be better. I don't want ana sites to be banned, because they are safe for me...
MyLadyofGenki 2 years ago
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hope you die
fuckstupidppl69 2 years ago
What are you talking about? I didn't do anything...
MyLadyofGenki 2 years ago
you said that the stupid pro shit websites give you info on how to be anorexia, they all should die
fuckstupidppl69 2 years ago
They don't give you tips on how to be anorexic, just tips on how to lose weight. They shouldn't die, it's my outlet, it's how I receive comfort, among other things. Why did you tell me that I should die??? Nobody deserves to die....
MyLadyofGenki 2 years ago
ok im going to start to ignore you
fuckstupidppl69 2 years ago
Whatever, do what you want. You still don't make sense.
MyLadyofGenki 2 years ago
[continued]... so that the government can manipulate everyone according to what they want us to think (as they always do), it is a medical condition not a trend (like they are trying to tell us) and people with anorexia don't "decide" to be anorexic. its a serious matter, but no amount of money will stop the internet sites... hope this helps! i'm going to sign the petition now... :)
lillialove13 2 years ago
i haven't had much experience with anorexia but i googled it after my friend said some things that kind of worried me. also a girl at school had anorexia (she is recovered now so don't worry). i agree with everything you have said: the content is questionable however some girls need these websites, filtering doesn't work (they simply change the location of the site), sensoring is objective to personal opinions or selective populations that have a majority against anorexia sites... [continued]
lillialove13 2 years ago
Great video. You're obviously very smart and undersand anorexia, it's routesand it's seriousness. Thanks for making this
kittykiaraonline 2 years ago
I used to have anorexia, I had it on and off since I was 16. I'm fine now. Pro ana websites made me feel more motivated, also I felt better that other people were going through the same thing. Although it didn't help my eating disorder, taking the websites down would in no way encourage me, or anyone else with the disease to stop. Like he said in the video, there are deeper causes for the disease than images or these websites. Anorexia will not go away unless these issues are properly treated.
runnergirl555 2 years ago
these pro ana websites are full of "diets" that have killed people, im all for support groups on the internet. i'm in training to be a mental health nurse and although i dont believe a eating disrder can be "caught" off the internet, i do believe it can be advanced. These websites dont support suffers, it makes them feel that want they are going though is a way of life whn they are actually very sick
freckleslovesneil 2 years ago
Wow, you're so intelligent. Cute aswell! I agree with everything that you said, except about the bit where you say the suggestion that pro-ana websites trigger people, is "absurd". I mean "pro-ana" is short for "promoting anorexia". These sites idolise people who are rich, thin, successful, attracive etc, and make people feel that in order to be happy, they to need to be that thin. Someone may have a bad day at school, go on a pro-ana site later on and not eat the next day. See the problem?
ShudaWent2Specsavers 2 years ago
How about banning pro-gain websites, there are dozens if not hundreds of ''Gainer Porn'' on youtube alone!
basic86black 2 years ago
They have a right to exist Pro-Ana sites that are there only for support should be OK I agree. However I completely disagree with those that promote it and give tips on how to loose weight, they should definitely be banned. I was bulimic for 3 years and I have never met one sufferer of either anorexia or bulimia who would ever encourage other people to suffer like they did I know i certainly wouldn't.
ScouseCaspaXS 2 years ago
I did. I suffered from bulimia for like a year, and I suppose if I felt like if more people suffered from it aswell, then I wouldn't feel so alone. That was when I was in a very dark place. Put it this way, I was at the point where I wasn't worried for my health or what it was doing to me. I was worried about my teeth rotting, from throwing up. How screwed up is that? It almost didn't seem fair that other people were so comfortable in their own skin, when I wasn't. Of couse, now, I realise....
ShudaWent2Specsavers 2 years ago
....that promoting EDs as a lifestyle choice, rather than an illness, is absurd. It's like "pro-alcoholism" or "pro-OCD".
ShudaWent2Specsavers 2 years ago
I think that there should be websites for anorexics to relate and all that, but all of the websites saying that anorexia is "so awesome" and "beneficial" should be banned, if possible. Those websites aren't doing anything for anybody. Anorexics need help, not people telling them that it's all good, or people who want to resort to anorexia will look at those websites that make it out to be something better than it is. Anorexia should be thought of as bad and never portrayed as a good thing.
dookiepillz 2 years ago
More people die every year from obesity than anorexia. If people with a mental illness want to support each other, they have that right. If you want to censor the content of pro ana websites and videos, then there needs to be censorship of fast food ads...it is very similar to pro ana...it's called pro fat...and it has reached epidemic standards. Lets leave these girls alone and focus on the millions of people with obesity.
glamazon83 2 years ago
I said that their should be websites supporting people with the illness. Can you not read?
I never said obesity was good, but neither is anorexia. It would be better if everyone was of a healthy weight, but that's not the case. This particular video is about anorexia, not obesity, so that was irrelevant.
Since when are food ads "pro fat"? HAHAHA damn you sound really dumb. Food places/grocery stores/etc are actual businesses. Websites about how awesome anorexia is, are not.
dookiepillz 2 years ago
I suffer from anorexia nervosa, and i think that pro ana should have a voice. I am in recovery and i find that these girls and boys on the sites are very theraputic and understanding. when i'm having a bad day i can just talk to them. YES I AM PRO-ANA, NO I DO NOT PROMOTE EATING DISORDERS.
lightXasXaXfeather 2 years ago
You have a very mature outlook on this subject.
I however believe that by labelling these websites as triggering does not mean people can 'catch' the disease it can however influence body image issues that are present.
I think they mean trigger someone who is suffering the illness or trying to recover.
I have suffered an eating disorder, and you first find these sites as helpful to lose more weight, now however i realise just how damaging it was to me psychologically and in turn physically
Hana212 2 years ago
I don't feel they should be banned (that's basically impossible and a waste of government time and spending) and it's also censorship of the web, which is concerning with regard to freedom of speech related rights. Perhaps more damaging to these websites are ones with with body composition calculators and other tests (I found out I was only .1 below underweight and felt it was not 'enough'). I know this is stemming from something psychological, but still, these websites do more harm than pro-ana
timetopretenddd 2 years ago
Yeah, BMI's only an indicator, yet it's used to determine wheter people are "underweight", "healthy", or "overweght". These "BMI calculators" don't take into account that person's bone-density, muscle-mass, water-mass etc etc. According to BMI my absolute perfect weight would be 162lbs, but at the gym they took into account my bone denisty etc, and it came back I should weigh 185lbs. These BMI calculators, wrongly convince people they need to lose/gain weight on a daily basis!
ShudaWent2Specsavers 2 years ago
Wow. I definitely have arguments on both sides of this. I suffer from anorexia (mildly-sounds absurd but basically true). I honestly believe what set me off was a comment someone made me (not-related to weight) and my perfectionist personality. Thinspiration/pro-ana websites don't do the initial damage. However, I find as time goes on, I'll tell myself to eat or just give in, and these websites and videos help me to combat that inner force telling me how my body actually feels.
timetopretenddd 2 years ago
Seriously, all pro-ana stuff gets taken off, what's the big deal?
rodentulcer 2 years ago
No if people can watch porn and post about religion and have websites up full of thar stuuf other people including people with Anna should be able to be just as free on the internet.
soni408 2 years ago 2
There's nothing wrong with thinspo, and anyway it might help ease the OBESITY epidemic! lolz
izzie889 2 years ago
I LOVE U U MADE THE BEST POINT
maddz185 2 years ago
woot! that was awesome.
joshhmarryme 2 years ago
u are cute
Phraselverbs14 2 years ago 2
you know pro ana site helped me a lot because i found people who can undestand my suffering , i'm not really proana , i'm hyperpgagic and it's really a hell i can't stop eatiing or even stop thinking about food and i'm not fat at all or even skinny i just look normal , so in this site i can talk about it i can feel more free
maninarock 2 years ago
oh yah it a good idea those site are awweesomme it just sooo intersting i mind it really helping me really!
mcrfan290494 2 years ago
thank you :)
RozyczkaProAna18 2 years ago
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so that is why i belive they should not be censored due to the fact that i belive certain people have more of a disposition to get and ed and a website will not "give" them one!
haloslove 3 years ago
I LOVE you your the only non-anorexic/bulimic who actualy gets it. I was fully prepared to watch this and hate everything you said but i was pleasantly suprised
I suffer from both anorexia and bulimia and i find these sites as less of a anorexia thing and more of a extream diet thing though my ed did stem from dieting such as this i know some who have been on these websites and it has no effect..
haloslove 3 years ago
Whilst I at times have found some things triggering, for the most part it has been helpful in working through and understanding my illness to liase openly with other sufferers without fear of judgement. Thanks again for your insight !
Chelsea from Oz
anawings 3 years ago 2
Good on you! It'sgreat u have such insight into this very complex disease. I live in Aust and have struggled with Anorexia for 9 yrs now . I most definetely did not "catch it" through pro-ana sites. Infact I don't think I even knew they existed when I first got diagnosed and its only in recent years that I have come across them. ED's are sorely misunderstood and the stigma associated is that we are all vain and starving for attention...it goes so much deeper than that.
anawings 3 years ago 2
Sick.
gurlie620 3 years ago
Ignorance is a blessing and a curse, id rather be in the know than not to know. It would be a violation to all citizens in a democracy to not show them or block things they perceive as therapeutic, or simply informative. I have never had problems with anorexia, lord knows i should but thats another story. Imagine if they start with this and next thing they will block is Porn, GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY, that would be a sad sad! day for ALL! Australia, fat, thin, gay or not gay.
whambamram 3 years ago
ive had experience with anorexia, and I completely agree with everything you've said. I really respect you for not nessecarily agreeing with the content of the wesites, but still respecting their rights to exist. Anorexia is not something that can be caught, and it's not a trend, its a disease and I think the people with the disease are completely misunderstood. Thankyou <3
HorrorMovieLoversx 3 years ago
ive researched on some pro ana sites and find them not at all therapeutic or a "safe" space. Theres a site with a section called 100MUST-KNOW-TIPS eg : paint your nails to cover the blueish colour u get on your nails due to starvation. Many tips and pictures encourages you to starve and it really feels like a brain washing machine. The skinny pictures of models make viewers feel worse about their own body. which then makes them ANA
lamelamez 3 years ago 2
Interesting talky blog, Rob! Hope your New apt will give you comfort and NEW Life opportunities! Peace! Doug in KC(USA)
Topgun4UKC 3 years ago
the internet should never be censored, Anorexia glorified, nazis marching, junkies shooting up, some dumb bitch having sex with a horse or something. I'd rather include them all in my world of accessible information than have anything censored by some government instilled moral compass. If you treat a people like retards unable to think for themselves that's what you will end up with.
vanness5 3 years ago 2
i suffer from anorexia.
however, i exclude those websites showing thinspo from the beneficial type. such websites, though you say otherwise in your video, can indeed trigger the disorder. some people are genetically predisposed to eating disorders and even something small like that can set it off.
and for us anorexics, such images can cause relapses rather quickly. i've not much of an opinion on the actual filtering, but i disagree with what you said about the actual sights not triggering
luvsingin6 3 years ago
There are plenty of website filtering programs out there for use on home or school computers, have been for years. Instead of spending millions of dollars reinventing the wheel or trying to improve the wheel they could be educating the public on how they can 'protect' themselves if that's what they want to do! Leave some responsibility up to the public instead of blanketting us with what they feel we all need. Merry almost new years Rob!
JaredTheStrange 3 years ago
Rob, I agree with you in the fact that your government's attempt to "filter" content is shady at best. Very shady. It's surprising to find (through you comments) that the Aussie's don't have a Bill Of Rights ensuring a minimal number of freedoms!! YIKES!! As for the sites - while I doubt they can provide any REAL therapeutic benefit to the TRUE anorexic. Maybe sharing might lead them to help but that is shaky at best. Thanks for bringing this to light, Rob. Cheers to you!!
lbCharmed1 3 years ago
PS. Rob I have couple of MYSPACE pages and a YOUTUBE page and am a member of a bulletin board style forum. Can I post this video on them to bring up these matters to anyone who might be Australian & or helpful to these causes? Thanks!
lbCharmed1 3 years ago
Yes, of course that's fine
robmuch 3 years ago
Thanks - every person helps - and these are massage worth spreading - even if I am not Australian. Thanks again!
lbCharmed1 3 years ago
I completely agree! And really if you think about it, that form of censorship takes away the rights of the people. I mean, i don't know how the Australian government works, but MOST of the time the American government stands up for the rights of the people (excluding prop 8, which is terrible anyway), so this is a terrible form of oppression. And oppression by the government is a grave crime against freedom of the people.
dillongreen91 3 years ago
As a counselor who has had to deal with women and young girls (as well as men dealing with eating disorders), I CAN NOT agree with you on this point. You do make some good discusion that hopefully calls attenion to the plight, but the reality of the situation is that the shame that causes this can't be discussed within the contents of this response. I am concerned about the response of your government. Please contact me for more assistance.
fac4word 3 years ago
Well Rob that was a very convincing argument and I just loved how you dropped the big words like they were nothing Misconstrued etc.
You have my vote...... If only I lived in Australia.
Great blog
Pisoxl 3 years ago
haha thanks
robmuch 3 years ago
You are an old soul Master Rob, much sense you speak
coollikeyodais 3 years ago
I love being a soul master :)
robmuch 3 years ago
umm rob your talking too yourself again heheh
howdoiquityou2006 3 years ago
Yeah, looks like that huh, lol
I just did a massive round of replying to all the comments
robmuch 3 years ago
Thanks
robmuch 3 years ago
This is the biggest assault on free speech in the Western world that I've heard of. I don't know what your guarantees are to free speech in Australia, but you should cause as much of a stir over this as possible.
Stephen5000 3 years ago
Australia is the only developed country without a Bill of Rights. So at this point in time they can legally do this without any problem. One problem has come from our major telecommunication companies not agreeing to take part, making it more difficult for the government. But they are still pushing on with the proposal, which is why the petition still needs to be signed. BUT, no Bill of Rights means we are dependant on the common law and the shaky foundations of parliament to protect our rights
robmuch 3 years ago
I love the points you made, very well spoken. Good Job!
juaneezy19910209 3 years ago
Thanks
robmuch 3 years ago
Hey i like the new Hair
BlogFag 3 years ago
And what did you think of the content?
robmuch 3 years ago
Censorship is often worse than whatever it attempts to suppress.
My next door neighbor has anorexia. It has made her bedridden, nearly killing her. Her ankles are the size of most women's wrists. She supposedly is now getting treatment after many years of denying that she had a problem. I had to go in her house when she was first hospitalized & was surprised to see how much food she had; she would buy food, but not eat it. And when she did eat, she would immediately exercise it off.
dafttool 3 years ago
It's a terrible condition, and there are many stories just like this if you do a simple google search. Thanks for sharing and for the comment, Chris
robmuch 3 years ago
I would think that it would be as easy to catch anorexia as it would be to catch gayness. Both ideas are ridiculous.
KrazyTymes 3 years ago
Agreed :)
robmuch 3 years ago
a filter ? fuuck big brother is coming
howdoiquityou2006 3 years ago
Scary huh
robmuch 3 years ago
i love your little intro thingy with the music in the background :)
MotherNature14 3 years ago
A lot to think about. What do I think? That it is a disorder and hopefully the people that have it have the will power to fight it. Although I don't think banning websites is the answer. Very interesting!
g0LdBiZzLe 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment
robmuch 3 years ago
Hey Rob, Loved this post... now don't get a big head, but, you're smart... but most politicians don't think we are smart and endup pushing or spinning censorship.
QueerAsFaith 3 years ago
Unfortunate situation, with a 'noble' politician pushing this through without hearing the public's views (yet)
robmuch 3 years ago
Wonderful video. I think its wrong for any form of government to cripple the people into not viewing certain things. I love how in an attempt at Freedom for everyone, it seems that most freedoms are taken away so everyone feels "Equal". No one really wants to feel equal, they just want to feel the way the Happy people feel. As for Anorexia sites like you mentioned, I think there are bigger problems both on the internet and real life that the government doesnt need to cripple something like that.
geminix333 3 years ago
Agreed
robmuch 3 years ago
Not band. I dont want the government interfering with my viewing content. In all honestly, anorexia I think is not a well rewound disease that requires this type of approach. The condition is easily recognizable and can be stopped by mere work of family and friends.
The Australian government, couldn't more clearly, have alternate motives. If we fail to recognize that our media is 100% controlled by the government, than we will fail to see other freedoms taken away.
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144md 3 years ago
I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's "mere work" that would stop it, because if you've seen Ana's Story, as most, if not all, Australians would have seen during high school, it is no mean feat to conquer this condition. But I do agree that censorship is the wrong approach
robmuch 3 years ago
Sometimes I think that people look for a quick fix to a problem. Blaming the internet for problems like anorexia is like how they used to blame television for lots of other behaviors.
Although, I have friends who blame my homosexuality on the 60s TV show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea..All those sailors in a submarine, I guess...I have to admit that still has some appeal for me....Because of TV I desire hot uniformed men at sea..(thanks, TV)!
brentbraniff 3 years ago
I agree, thanks for the comment
robmuch 3 years ago
Thanks for the substantial video (during the Christmas season no less!). I agree with AECSRQ that "pro-Anoerexia" is problematic; if the sites truly offered the needed service of providing a place for people dealing with anorexia to tell their stories, they would style themselves a support group. However, censorship is wrong; discussion with the sites' owners about the name could prove helpful.
polemius01 3 years ago
Regulation would be ideal, but very impractical, but I certainly agree that while these sites don't always have the healthiest content, banning or censoring them is completely the wrong thing to be doing
robmuch 3 years ago
if someone put up web sites called 'Pro Cancer' or 'Pro Schizophrenia' we would rightly question their strategy if not their sanity. "pro" conveys that you are in favor of or promote whatever word follows... at the very least, "Pro Anorexia" is a poor use of language.
AECSRQ 3 years ago 3