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  • looks like a 68 camaro. not chevelle

  • the ricer sounds like a druged out pop corn maker lol lol

  • the civic has alot of power in porportion to its engine size

  • Why is it that every time a Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc...rolls in, everyone yells "ricer". Stereotypical if you ask me, what a bunch of jerkoffs. Honestly I prefer the imports and the tuners myself.

  • Overall we all love cars and appreciate cars that goes fast. we shouldn't just talk about muscle or import, including euro. Every car is good in their own ways.

  • every ricer video i watched i always hear the ricer miss a gear including this one. Granny shifting not double clutching like you should damnnn

  • why do every1 hate jdm? You guys know civics are not the the only import out there. There are faster cars out there, for instance, supra, skyline, rx7, and nsx. Im dont hate muscle car, but fuck all you muscle car fanboys. Yah dont know shit about import. Have you been in Japan? There are 10x more cars there than here in the usa. You guys know why the skyline are street illegal in US? Because it is too fast here in the US. I like muscle car but only the older 1s, fuck these modern muscle car

  • @HmoobThaivTeb1 If you're going to say you can beat any domestic with a car that sounds like my backup generator then yea everyone will be laughing at you.

  • @8xxABHIxx8 its not all about the car, but how much money you invest into your car. i drive a rx7 fd3s, do research before you even talk trash about the car because your a white boy and you don't know shit about import car. Let me guess you drive a fuckin mustang that i see all the time in the street. i respect both view because i like cars that goes fast. i just dont brag about one certain type of car. just to let you know we imports just don't make v4 we make v6,v8,v10, and v12 unlike mscles

  • @8xxABHIxx8 and whats up with the backup generator shit. muscle cars just look like a fuckin cardboard box. if you hate import so much why the fuck do all the muscle cars in the 90s have a different body style to them? is it because they r tryin the copy import car or something bcuz those piece of shit are not muscle at all. and i can guaranteed you that if your domestic lose to a v4 civic every1 will be laughing at you.

  • @HmoobThaivTeb1

    Whats a v4 do we measure that in liters like our liquid or cubic inches like the original and most powerful engines?

  • @Me12party A V4 engine is a V form engine with four cylinders and three main bearings. But i meant 4 cylinder tho. lol

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT COCKY LITTLE RICER JUST GOT FUCKED UP!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!

  • the civic was stock, the only reason people have muscle cars is they cant afford Japanese CARS

  • ITALIAN BEAUTY,GERMAN PRECISION, AMERICAN MUSCLE > JAPANESE... wait what do they do again?

  • @NITROUSINJECTEDFISHY I think they do reliabilty. OHHH & the Ferrari beating R35 GTR.

  • @265justy The german cars are the same way, my neighbor's 1983 BMW 320i has 412,000 miles and he drives the damn thing every day.

  • @NITROUSINJECTEDFISHY Yeah, All the taxi drivers here chose Jap & German makes also. Its not surprising to hop into taxi & read 450,000+ miles on the clock of a Toyota,Mazda or VW.

  • @265justy Interesting, where do you live?

  • @NITROUSINJECTEDFISHY Live in Ireland.

  • @265justy I went there on a band trip once back in highschool. beautiful country.

  • @NITROUSINJECTEDFISHY Thanks lad. Been to the States also about 4 years ago. Amazing place. Must go there again some time.

  • Silly ricers... REAL CARS DON'T POWER THE FRONT WHEELS BUT LIFT THEM! HAHA....

    V-TECH??? hahaha... just about all cars have something like that... they just dont brag about it cuz they aren't desperate.

    (My pickup truck has something better than V-TECH! Variable Valve Timing bitch!)

  • @302BossSTANG So very true man! I like that saying " REAL CARS DON'T POWER THE FRONT WHEELS BUT LIFT THEM!"

  • @impala04ondubbs your stupid as fuck,thats a DRAG CAR. its built for that you stupid ass cock sucker,thats just alittle daily driver. dumbfuck.

  • @302BossSTANG you are an idiot. its VTEC not VTECH. and VTEC IS variable valve timing. this shows the true stupidity of domestic owners. this video also shows the true stupidity of import owners. that think theyll go to the track and talk ish with their 18 second honda. makes a bad name for all import owners.

    this is coming from both a domestic and import owner

  • "Hey nutsack, muscle beats import everytime"

  • Fuck all ricers ppl always say if it was a supra or skyline it would win... Thats gay because they only have a couple cars that r fast nd on top all that i know cars like t birds nd dodge darts nd even f bodys or h body gm vehicles that will do a wheelie nd still smoke a supra or skyline off the line... Jap craps are so light they still need boost to win thats some bull crap pure detroit muscle ... If u think thats not fair we can add boost to make it fair fuck all tuners

  • @masskhamisi4

    RX-7, R32, R33, R34, Supra RZ, WRX Sti, S13, S14, S15, S2000, NSX, Intergra Type R, Civic Type R, Evos

    It is not just the car it is the driver.

    a 1.8 vs a what 4.0+?

    But if people who brag about their car being faster than this one are idiots.

  • I'll agree with you on the point that people should not hate and talk trash, but your argument about money is a cop-out. Fact is, even Ricer cars take one hell of a wad of cash, if you want to make it go fast. The issue here is that many of the kids these days are using Civics, Accords, and Lancers because that's all they can afford. Then they go out and buy an exhaust kit and a bunch of stickers, and talk trash to anyone with a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge/Chrysler.

  • @m88394 Your welcome sir!

  • @impala04ondubbs I'm not sayin' you don't know your cars, but the blue car in the far, winning lane looks more like a 68 or 69 Camaro, rather than a Chevelle. Just sayin'. In any case, awesome race!

  • Ah gotta love it "there is no replacement for displacement"!

  • Power corrupts everything and I'm also referring to the driver's minds. Really, bragging between tuners and muscle is as childish as fighting over which naruto character is better.

    That's why I keep my 2003 X-Type completely stock not only because I don't want to end up in a tree if I try to mingle with the engine but also because cost of maintenance and repair kills me to death XD

  • It's because of people like this that most of import car have bad reputation. some stupid kid brag about how fast their boosted civic are and when they compete agaisnt a guy who modified is muscle car, they loose. I ride a civic, but I know I will never beat a muscle car in drag, they are almost made for this! But for handling and cornering, nothing beat an import :p

  • @Wyop92 bullshit get a nice suspension in there and it will still whip that shit up.

  • Hell yeah

  • Civics aren't even fast compared to that chevy compare it with a supra instead then see who will win

  • I do love Rollin coal and that civic would def not neat me

  • holy shit he got raped what would have been even better is if the guy in the muscle would have crusied off the line and waved before he kicked his ass lol he sure did have enough time lol

  • i love the miss shift as well

  • Ricers have to add a bunch of crap to their cars and mod them out just to get CLOSE to a muscle car's power.

  • lol shit if the ricer was going to talk shit at least stay in the same frame with the muscle car sdam good old american power

  • what was that, about 30 car lengths behind hahah go back to japan faggot!

  • If that honda civic had an experienced driver it would have beat that shovel hands down and hondas arent ricers their tuners get your shit right tuners are better all the way around compared to U.S. buster cars

  • @0mcgl only a ricer could say that after getting raped that bad.hes going to need professional counsling.

  • @0mcgl no, its a ricer. ya see, real cars leave with front wheels off the ground, not put power to them

  • @0mcgl your funny xD my stingray could spank that civic , my stingray got a 24 valve cunnins turbo diesel motor in it so i can rece diesel drags i guarentee i will take any rice burner you put against me

  • @ZINK454545 hey jackass my civic runs on alcohol as a matter of fact rice alcohol so suck on my left nut u soot lover

  • @ZINK454545 diesel?!?!?!?!? ahahaha xD

  •  Of course the ricer fans will make up excuses about imports doing drifting. As you can see this is a straight way race which drifting is not required or necessary, the civic owner should have shut his mouth once he saw the chevelle. The chevelle has more history and culture than toyota and honda put together. I can only ask one question how many rare and old toyota or honda's that are on the street that are still running from 80s or below?

  • well both cars are great, but who won the drift championship? jap, time attack let me think? jap, moto gp ? let me think jap, dame so what crap then?, toyota is the only company in the world has been in more motorsports than any other company in the world fact, and toyota is JAP, so kiss my jap ass american muscle even if i am british lol

  • @hellssupra87 Thats all good and well but this is a drag race and that rice burner got owned.

  • @ruthlessone3k ricer, go and race a supra, rx7 or a r34, not a little 1.4 car, then see who gets owned my friend.

  • @hellssupra87 Once again your comment makes no sense, this car runs 9's faster than any of those cars in stock form. And if you want to talk about modding then your a tard. We all know that any car can be made fast if you throw enough money at it. i've seen plenty of those cars that run slower than this car.so dont even bother with the "what if". fact of the matter is the ricer took the race and lost.

  • @ruthlessone3k cant you read, did i say what if?, i must say what a win you got, a v8 racing a 1.4, and you saying the muscle car is stock you TARD? no. you like saying ricer alot, but to me pussy talks, and your talking. race a real jap car. end of the day its who got more money, and how good is the driver.

  • @hellssupra87 No, you didn't say what if. You were just headed in that direction, so I said dont bother. And I know the chevelle isn't stock like i said it ran 9's but if you really want to break it down to muscle vs rice look up larry larsons nova and show me any street legal ricer that can out run it.

    Oh, yeah and if your still having that problem with your pussy talking, visit an obgyn maybe they can get you a cream for that.

  • @ruthlessone3k wtf? i was talking about you, cant you fucking read? i think not, act your age, pr are you really 12, i think so. and dont talk bout larsons nova, ive seen old skool mini with 13b engines in, saxo with a evo engine and running gear, and like i say, you are a pussy, i know its hard trying to be a man, try and act like one. peace

  • @hellssupra87 Really, an attack on my age from a 23yo with a bunch of anime on his page, ooh I'm so insulted. i've also seen fast old skool minis, the fastest being a back halved rear wheel drive setup. and it only ran mid 9's. Not that ,that is not fast but for one its not street legal and for two its no where near a 6 sec street legal nova. So before you try to talk trash do your research.

  • @ruthlessone3k wow, you have to go on peoples profiles to find ways to insult them, very sad. and them cars i was talking about are FUCKING street legal. get a life if you can, everyone is different, and if you dont like that fact that people like jap, german etc cars then fuck off and dont go on youtube ok, people like you we dont need in this world, and we would be better off. have a nice day.

  • @hellssupra87 Whats wrong, all I've done is turn your own words against you and you got all butt hurt about it.

    Those cars may be street legal but there not 6sec cars either. if they are, show me a video. I would love to see a 6 sec street mini new or old school that would be sick. Dont get me wrong I KNOW that a rice burner can be made fast. I've seen in person a supra run 9's. and I've ridden in a 10 sec RX7FD.Fact of the matter is this civic talked trash and go put in his place End of story!

  • @ruthlessone3k if you havent, then you got to go to gatebil, there cars put most jap's to shame around the track, this year they had the 13b mini against the r34 gtr, left it for dead, makes my car look like it came out of the 1950, there is no heath and safety there, if your car is not pushing over 750 in bhp or ft/t dont race them, ive seen metro 6r4 pull 6sec, easy, a car that weights 800kg 4 wheel drive and kicking out 900bhp, and even ex-jtccs15 was racing there.

  • @hellssupra87 Must say, I'd love to rip a nice 6r4 down a dirt road!

  • hahaa i dont get it why fools still try to race 4 bangers..get a rwd v8 even a v6 i'll let it pass and tune that..ok honda has bad ass f1 engines and cars but, there v8.shit hondas do have great fuel economy though....

  • Haha I have a 65 ford that stomped a awd skyline at the drags. Muscle beats rice everytime period. There is no replacement for displacement 429 cubic in baby :) that pissed off weedeater sounds real intimidating hahaha NOT!

  • Motorfordtoyota obviously youve never raced or seen an actual put together foreign car, maybe its becuz your to far behind shit youd be lucky to catch a civic as much as american cars break down.

  • @BrentEvans89...i dont see many videos online of muscle cars falling apart or crashing. But i see tons of ricers missing shifts and blowing their motors up. I'll take the muscle over the rice any day.

  • HAHAH YOU REDNECKS THAT JUST A CIVIC A LITTLE BABY CAR WHY DONT YOU RACE THE SAME LEAGUE CARS EG SUPRA OR SKYLINE OR YOU GUYS SCARED ? SO YOU PICK ON THE LITTLE CIVIC ahahah MUSCLE CAR = FLINTSTONE

  • @gu81singh...some of us don't consider those cars rice...I dont, but if they want to get some, I'm sure the american muscle guys would be happy to race

  • Rice=makes alot of noise and doesnt do anything. FUCK RICE!!!!!

  • HAHAHA THE RICER JUS GOT HIS ASS OWNED!!!JUS GOES TO SHOW YA MUSCLE RULES ALL!!!!!CONGRATS TO THE MUSCLE!!!

  • I like Rice

  • good bye lawn mower!!!

  • HA!! Thas how we do it.

  • i dont know how anybody can say a rice is better. and now its tuner cars that must be short for cartoon car. you lift the hood and 2 chipmunks on a rubber band running like hell. playing farting sounds on a loud speaker out the back . and if you hear them talk about mods. thats adding a extra chipmunk to the rubber band going all out is 2 more chipmunks... fuck ricer fags. american muscle for ever.

  • I don't give a shit about how much your weedwacker motor puts out. It is a fact that V8's are way cheaper and more powerful to build. Cheaper because the performance is already bought before you add shit to them. Even Volvo's i5 engine sounds beautiful and it has only 1 cylinder added. Fuck, I bet rice fuckers don't even know what a cylinder is.

  • i know where a eagle is 4cly awd thats is a 9 sec car lol so yea i like all cars but no one should be able to hate on any of them becuz if u got the money u can make anything fast

  • @stoney191 still doesnt matter you also have to take in stuff you have very little control over like weight and weight distribution rwd are superior in dragging cuz of it

  • muscle got false start

  • jesseajax92 chuck norris can suck my balls because that ricer could splatter his ass

  • Chuck norris would outwalk that ricecracker

  • my shitbox truck with a 305 could smoke a ricer lawls

  • pretty sure civics and supras have 4 cylinders while this chevelle seems to have about 8 cylinders. i'm not a physicist, but it would seem that twice as many cylinders should produce a higher horsepower to weight ratio, and as for the whole weight of the car issue, the supra does not weigh half as much as the chevelle, so i conclude that the chevelle wins. (and a V-8 just sounds like a beast, while a 4 cylinder sounds like lawn tools)

  • @MHSRULES12 not just horsepower but that rice shit has no tourqe.

  • @MHSRULES12 Supra’s have inline 6’s. Maybe you already knew and that was a typo? And there is no doubt the chevelle has a V8. 95% of muscle cars have V8’s. Occasionally somebody will build an old I6 or something, but almost always its gonna be a V8, cause that’s what God intended! Lol

  • MUSCLE OWNS!!!!!!

  • I love the ricer below saying a supra or rx7 would've won. You do realize the chevelle ran 9's? Unless you have 50k to blow on top of the car... Not happening.

  • LOL! I love ricers! I love the look in their eyes when they lose after talking so much shit. Apparently this Accord Turbo thought he beat my Porsche when I was at least 10 cars ahead and let off and he did his ricer fly by 20 seconds later when he caught back up. His exact words, "oh you sure had me until the higher speeds". When I told him I let off the gas, hit my brakes and slowed down, the look on this face was priceless.

  • Lol cmon now. We all know who ever wins has a faster time down the track when it comes to a drag race. How u gonna run a 9 sec car wt a 15 sec car? Lmao hahaha

    it's not even a fair race if they're running way seperate times but if they run around the same time it's all up to the driver. Enough said.

  • That was only a civic, a real car that could beat your chevy would be a Supra or an RX7 both are faster and lighter

  • @Adawgrussian

    You have alot to learn about american muscle my friend

  • @Adawgrussian Very wrong. I won't even begin to try to explain.. you are just flat out incorrect..

  • Ricer owners are so annyiong. At first their always Muscle cars are so heavy and slow! Then after they lose, they always say oh well we get better gas milage. Muscle for life man

  • @skatepunkzero exactly! and i didnt buy my muscle car to get good mileage. i bought it to haul ass.

  • @MHSRULES12 I know right? sad can't wait till I get my Skyark GS

  • haha omg at first i didnt even know there was a car in the other lane. HAHAHA shitty ass rice burners i tell ya what

  • holy shit that chevelle ripped that civic another asshole!

  • the stickers on the honda didnt work?!?! must notta applied them right

  • what the heck

  • uh-oh time to send the ricer back to the rice farm for some more tune-ups before it can even challenge Muscle

  • muscle does rule, but the japanese will always beat domestic with styling points.

  • @bootsmonster22 sike lol

  • Put a couple turns in that 1/4 and the Chevelle wouldn't stand a chance. American muscle is great for a short line straight run...even then some AWD rice owns there too.

  • @weezerman2002, All that "Muscle: drag, Import: handling" theory is bullshit, no offense. There are import cars that can do an insane quarter mile, and there are muscle cars that are crazy track cars. Money always decides.

  • haha that civics just a peice race a real rice burner

  • after how many gallons of fuel...

  • @browngt bullshit. The only japanese cars that have good gas mileage are feather weight econo boxes. Americans make those cars too. I used to have a 97 plymouth neon that got 37-38 highway. A twin turbo supra gets shit for gas mileage too just like a muscle car.

  • @SauceCaptain for your info, a twin turbo supra gets WAYY better gas mileage than any american muscle car. and if i seen a 68 chevelle smoke a twin turbo supra or 300zx i would be impressed. but beating a 93 civic dosent take much. i personally hate civics. put it against a neon or something.

  • he shat on that rice bucket....muscle ftw

  • ricers are so gay

  • @KoRn4LyFe youtube com/watch?v=4zLMrpyc5h0

  • thats what you call, a ricer attempting to say his vtec is the most amazing thing in the world

  • That's what you call, different racing classes.

  • Agreed with Harlon. How many times are you going to go drifting on the street or up/down the sides of a mountain? Not very many times, I'm sure. And unless you're buying a Shelby GT-500KR or a fully restored classic Mustang, there is no other $80,000 Mustang.

  • I wonder.........

  • who gives a fuck about it damn id rather have a nice eye catching cheap ricer anyday as to a friggin 80grand mustang. i mean damn its like war. 1960s vs mordern day...hmm clearly on drag the mustang is gona win but honestly i wana see u drift that thing in city limits..btw ricers can suck my balls too god damn to much purr and no go. both types have their strong points y'all just need to chill n smoke some cronic

  • @alvarezah Im 38 years old and never in my life have I needed to "drift" anything on any type of highway to win a race. On the other hand, I can do figure 8's and donuts around poles in parking lots better than any imports have tried yet. Ive been doing so-called drifting in muscle for years. It is not hard to do nor is it necessary. Not trying to piss anyone off, it is just that way.

  • well i agree with one thing you say alvarezah, the last 3 words at least hahaha

  • @6stringedkiller word brother. funny u should bring dat shit up just had some afghani kush. hehehehehehheheheheheheheh this shit is so dope.

  • Its always funny how people think their Supras and Skylines that are tuned out to their absolute max at 1200hp think that makes tuners better than a V8. In reality they either no nothing about motors or are ignorant to the fact that for many V8's, 1200hp is nowhere close to it's max. I have a friend that dumped 60,000 into a supra and has 1045whp, but Z06 or viper can easily get that with a twin turbo kit. 99% of the time more displacement=more potential horsepower!

  • my boyfriend's dad's viper is at 700+ and doesn't even have a turbo kit.

  • @2002cr250 youtube com/watch?v=4zLMrpyc5h0

  • That was a stock civic vs a max out mustang. He should race those Hatchback that is max out

  • I am not going to lie, there are some crazy imports. But, in the end American Muscle wins in my opinion. Like I said, motors aren't made like they used to be.  Granted, there are still great American sport cars these days. But, you can't beat a REAL motor from the 60s and 70s when you flipped up the hood and all you saw was motor and battery. That's a real motor, that runs with no limitations. Those could take a beating and last.

  • lmao his vtak must not be working right...stupid ricer fwds are for tricycles

  • @ryansiki

    you do know an 87 300zx's (z31) frame goes for 10k in japan...just the frame alone. and with the motor thats 35k and thats all in mint condostion much like how you like a classic stang or camaro. I wonder how much that price goes up in america compared to the japanese yen... you do the math

  • All you kids from this generation think 4 bangers are fast because that's all you have been exposed to and can afford. I may be from this generation, but I found out what real cars were. Save your money, buy a real car.

  • America makes the best cars hands down.

  • haha he even misses a gear

  • MUSCLE OWNS RICE CAR!!!!

  • :( this vid is very sad ;)

  • Ok a civic may make 400hp( with a fucking turbo), but a chevelle with easily make 450 with EFI,nice cam, and a good ignition system.Plus our muscles are worth more than your rice burners even after 40 years of sitting outside.

  • @ryansiki very nice but just so you know the 454 ss chevelle came stock with 411lb. ft. of torque and 550HP from the factory.

  • lol our v-8s are killing your children. CHEVY 4 LIFE

  • @5stringcorvette -you can make any car go fast if you got the money.

  • I don't think a Rice Cooker might be able to do that!

  • don't now what the ricer is. But first of all sports cars kick ricers and muscle cars. RIGHT! i now all of you want an viper, labo, corvette, ferrari, or some other spendy car that you can't afored. right or am i wrong.

  • wrong i hate sports cars

  • wow a built car vs non built car fair lol not

  • .... The difference between muscle and rice is.... Rice can do this all day without exploding

  • haha, no, much easier to fry the pistons on a 4 banger

  • As can a muscle.. The Big Blocks tend to fuck up in the higher RPM but Small Blocks will do this shit all day.

  • There is no motor that is "blow up" proof. Muscle motors are best. There is no substitute for cubic inches.

  • @1979NiteRider

    Agreed.

  • @1979NiteRider There is no replacement for displacement.

  • @RetroGamerr1991

    Agreed!

  • @hondahp18

    Are you serious? Rice is cheaply made and they have small motors that can't handle anything. American is made with quality with REAL motors. They are built for performance and can handle anything.  So just shut up, you don't know what you are talking about because you never owned a muscle sports car from America.

  • @1979NiteRider

    yea loving that quality american motor that breaks after 20,000 miles.

  • What? That is honestly the dumbest thing to say. Sorry, I don't give a shit what anyone says. American motors are better than imports because they are made with quality. American motors might not be what they were in the 60s and 70s. Have fun fixing your import from 09 when it breaks, so get your wallet out when YOU can't fix it because you can't find your damn starter the thing is so cluttered under the hood with computer shit and other nonsense.

  • Okay lets look at this in a logical manor. US cars are made in the US. They pay these works like 15-25 Dollors an hour. This means that they are spending a lot of money on paying people. How do you make money when paying people this much you might ask. The answer is that the quality of the materials and the planning of the vehicle go down. American car makers try to fight that fact by putting large motors in there cars to attract people. Imports don't pay works alot.

  • You obviously don't know anything about American motors. And your thought about the reason America has low quality motors is very tacky. Look there are some crazy imports, I admit that. I am talking about the "real" American muscle from the 60s and 70s. Okay, there are some good American sports cars today, but not like back then when limitations didn't exist. Just what I am saying man.

  • @1979NiteRider its about time someone has some sense on this video your right those ricers dont stand a chance stock car on stock car

  • @eqfake The import makers dont pay their workers much so they dont give a shit how fucked up the cars turn out. And with the extra money they should be able to afford 4 more cylinders

  • They also instead of using a bigger motor to increases power because this puts more stress on the all ready low quality motor. Imports use tunning to increase power.

    If you want to know the quality of there engines. Why can a 4 cyl. import engine handle up to 500 hp while an american 8 cyl can only take 750 hp. Use your mind before you reply.

  • . American motors come STOCK with power. Your little 4 banger import has to rev to the moon to squeeze out some power with a turbo! Muscle can get above 500 HP with ALL MOTOR mods if done right. Here is a comparison.

    09 Civic SI - 197 HP @ 6500 RPM

    MY 79 Trans Am - 400 HP@ 4000 RPM

    That's not mentioning torque either buddy! My car has 500 ft/lbs of torque at 2000 RPM. Typical ricer saying HP is better than torque. I am done talking now, I don't care what you say after this.

  • Ha, look at this guy. After only 20,000 miles. I know that was sarcasm but still... You're retarded

  • "ricer" was a term coined by the muscle car guys that was referring to ALL japanese cars... not just the shitty ones.

  • well of course theres going to be exceptions but most proper tuner cars will beat most proper muscle around corners.............i think this whole ricer v muscle is seriously gay anyway. if your in2 cars it doesn't matter.

  • No import tuners or ricers don't know how to drive a real car.

  • thats just a retarded one sided statement and all your really provin on you tube is that you like showing off about your "real car" get over urself

  • I am out to prove my side that's all. My car is my car, like it or not, I don't care. The majority like it. But, we all know the three classic arguments of import tuners and ricers.

    1. I will own you in the twisties.

    2. Because I am lighter I will beat you.

    3. I get better MPG. (Which has nothing to do with anything race related)

    Not always the case. Yes, some GOOD import cars are made for rally like STIs, EVOs, etc. But, don't count out American Muscle either on the rally track.

  • @1979NiteRider WHOA WHOA WHOA... mpg's have nothing to do with races? endurance races require mpg's to be at least half decent.. and last i checked...displacement over hp... american muscle lacks turning... but makes up for it in straightaways, all in all muscle beats tuner(rice) every time

  • @Mortico11

    I agree mostly what you are saying. What I was saying was, when a tuner or ricer realizes he has no argument against you, he throws the highway and city MPG he gets in his car at you. Overall that has nothing to do with racing. As long as you get a respectible MPG for your car, then you will be fine in an endurance race. My car is a 6.6 liter V8 400. I have it to where it gets 14 MPG with some of my mods. Endurance races still don't TRULY show which car is faster.

  • i think that would be a 60s camaro

  • all a muscle car is good for is straight lines dont get me wrong there is sum sexy muscle out dare but take it to a track against an evo, scooby skyline etc it wont keep up around the corners.

  • depends what car... the zr1 already out performed the new skyline in a straight line and through cornering... not sure what the video is called but look it up on here

  • @oJayTo Very true, and those cars are not Ricers. Imports, tuners or what ever you want to call them, but not ricers

  • Check the Motortrend video of GTR vs ZR1.

  • @kavithewolf

    the new GTR35 is a piece of garbage compared to the R34

  • Dude that is the typical assumption, but in essence it's not the truth. Performance cars are made to handle well, especially Muscle. In the end it comes down to the driver and the car that fits them.

  • 10.4 is gay muscle cars can run a 6 stupid

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  • Ricers are cheap to make fast, but you don't get the respect in a ricer that you get in a old muscle car. It don't matter what you drive, as long as you can back your shit up.

  • @alexhc09

    Well Muscle is cheap to make fast actually. I threw like a few hundred dollars into my car with very simple mods that took no time at all and got a major difference.  I removed all that emissions crap and threw an exhaust system on the car. Major difference on an already powerful motor.

    Newer cars are the hardest to mod imo. Computers, limitations, etc.