We can only hope this curse will some day leave them...the thing I don't completely understand is why the people who know the risk have to have kids naturally. They can still be parents if they adopt, and they wouldn't risk passing on the gene. I know I'm in no place to judge...it just seems like it could prevent lots of suffering.
What about psychedelics? I wouldn't be surprised if by altering some states in the mind through psychedelics can or will most likely change how the brain will function. Sometimes even permanently. I think it's worth a shot.
I have experienced the complete inability to sleep, thanks to evil drugs benzodiazepines. Never ever take these drugs.It is pure torture. I imagine the kicker is if sleep meds do not work; that is bizarre. Am I correct in saying they have no idea why sleep meds never work?
could be a hypnic jerk you're experiencing... this occurs just when you are about to fall asleep, you are drifting off and then suddenly you Jump and feel like you've been shaken awake. is that how it feels?
*cont that you suffer this condition will be enough to keep you up for days... if you are still convinced that you have this condition go get yourself tested but I guarantee that there is another more common cause to your insomnia and you are going to regret investing all that money into a test you didnt need.
Everyone should know that 50 million americans suffer from some form of insomnia... if you suffer from depression or anxiety problems or have a family history of it, then that is gonna be the cause of chronic insomnia...it has been proven to be the primary cause of it... FFI is passed from genes... the chances of your family having it is 0.000001 percent. and the sporadic fatal insomnia youre a 100 times less likely to have that... and another word of advice, watching these videos and thinking..
i'm not sayin i have this disease alright so fuck off people, i'm just sayin here that i'm usually deprived of sleep, usually i'll only get incroments or however you spell that of anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes of sleep at a time and some days i just won't sleep at all. i'm sure there's a name for it but i'm not so concerned about it because after a week or so of sleep deprivation i'll actually lay down and just pass out and sleep for about 2 to 3 days straight... usually 2 days
@TheMayday101 wtf? for reals? u gotta start doing sports at daytime so that ur excausted at night time. pluss u should smoke weed before u go 2 sleep. maybe watch a movie and when theres like 1 hour left of it u smoke some nice weed and try 2 sleep after that 1 hour. yes im fucking serious
@DonkymanCominAtYa i shit you not man i fuckin swear it but i'm extremely active during the day and probabally more active during the night i mean i straight up smoke motherfuckers in sports and shit but i just can't fuckin sleep or anything until i actually just pass the fuck out
I wonder whether Neurofeedback or Audio Visual Entrainment would help with this type of illness. Has anyone hear of either one being researched/tested?
I stayed up for over 60 hours....after which I only got about 3 hours before staying up for another 16. After about 40 hours it's terrible. It becomes difficult to walk, difficult to stand, and after 60 hours you start losing the ability to speak properly. I know some people will stay up for days with drugs like meth.....but once you've experienced it without stimulants of any kind....it's hell. I can't even imagine what it would be like to die from not sleeping.
Actually being put to sleep wont work... we talked about this in my psychology class...your brain can never fall asleep.. so even if you go under... for lets say, surgery... your brain never really falls asleep... what it is is the part in your brain that lets you fall sleep, deteriorates with the disease.
4. ) I even ask the doc for a horse tranquilizer or just a tranquilizer in general i guess he thought i was joking cause he just kept prescribing other forms of anti-depressants ) But for them pot wouldn't even do the trick WOW what agony they must be in
3. ) Pot puts me right out ( I only use pot after several days not being able to sleep, i dont use it just for the fun of it. I use it as an insomnia medication because over the counter sleep aids dont work nor do anti-depressants which BTW take at least 2 to 3 weeks being in your system before they take effect . And when i need to sleep i need to sleep now and not 2 to 3 weeks from the time i start taking medication. .
1. ) Damn I Feel I should NEVER complain about my insomnia again. My record is 6 days with no sleep and even that's agony, wanting to sleep but not being able to or to feel your body start to drift off but as soon as you have that drift off feeling your body jerks you awake or as you're about to drift off to sleep you feel as if you are falling which again causes me to jerk awake sometimes even jump up out of my bed, seriously !!! that's what i go through
I have never been able to sleep well my whole my life. I remember being in my cot/crib wide awake for much of the night trying to sleep. I was on prescribed sleeping pills by the age of 10 and now at 22 I still get it every now and then. This would be my idea of hell. I suppose that they only discovered it recently because it's only within that past several hundred years that people have been living long enough for symptoms to show.
@christer12241984 Do you really? Not trying to discount your claim but are you only experiencing a chronic insomnia problem? The reason I ask this is because there are people who watch videos like this and relate it to the insomnia they are experiencing at that time.
If you are being real, I intrigued. Were you genetically tested? Did one of your parents die from it? Are you going through it now? If you don't want to respond here you may PM me about your experiences.
People who have tried barbituates to sleep have gone into a coma, without even experiencing REM sleep. I am glad that I only have sleep apnoea, which is treated quite well with CPAP therapy - FFI has no successful treatment - and would be a torturous way to die. I know how prolonged insomnia feels, I am glad that I was able to fix the problem....
@Sprekitek Yes, experiencing insomnia is normal and does feel torturous. Not being able to sleep is probably one of the worst things to experience and that is why mankind has figured out how to use sleep deprivation as a form of torture to get something out of that individual or individuals. It is also used as a form of brainwashing to make people compliant.
@WeatherMondacicci I'm not hating or anything, but I just wanted to point out that insomnia is much more uncommon than people think it is. When people cannot sleep at night it usually has to do with nervousness, digestion, running thoughts, etc. But insomnia is actually a sleeping disorder. 'One has insomnia therefore cannot sleep', not 'one cannot sleep therefore has insomnia." i don't mean to be so technical, it's just that many people in my family have it bad (including me)
Any drugs to try to force them to sleep don't actually help, they make it worse. Problem is that the part of the brain that makes/allows you to go to sleep is literally being destroyed, you do not have the ability to sleep. So no, they may put you in a coma, but not sleep.
I just came from a video about christian creationism theories - u can imagine the Bullshit... how the f**k would they explain stuff like that!
My recomendation to anybody who has any genetic link to FFS: get sterilized. If it doesn't get you, it might get your children, if not the grand-children then the great-grandchildren .... but it will get someone along the line. There is no disease worst than FSI,
@rainbowspite222 I am not sure about that, there might be some research on that, but I doubt it would work since the problem is in the thalamus which has pretty much been shredded.
Barbituates have been known to prove ineffective and hasten death. I am sure that GA could render someone unconscious but because the mechanism to sleep has been damaged it wouldn't be a replacement for sleeping.
@WeatherMondacicci I read of one patient who tried anesthesia. It was somewhat helpful at first, but it didn't last as I recall. Even the anesthesia would sometimes only give him 15 minutes of sleep.
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I am not downing the disease...but it doesnt make sense to me how even if the "control" of sleep doesn't work, you KNOW you need sleep. So even if they try they can't sleep? Are there some type of issues blocking sleep in general, or just FALLING asleep?
Give those people a xanax and a blunt. Tell me your not sleepy, go ahead. :P
You fucking idiot if they could sleep they would wouldn't they. They have a disease that makes them so they cant go to sleep. They have told you this all the way through the documentry. Arsehole!
i had years of inability to sleep or wake .. just huge zombie-like fatigue... Eventually i sort of 'borrowed' my partner's brain to help me sleep a bit. !! Now i just have chronic fatigue. Just realised my dad has a problem sleeping and swallowing .. :(
No, FFI is a prion disease, it destroys the thalamus by creating plaque aggregates IIRC, thus communication between the thalamus and the rest of the cerebral cortex is virtually gone. Barbituates would have no effect and even hasten death.
If he was having REM sleep, than giving him some DMT (a chemical which naturally exists in the body and is a hallucinogen believed to be responsible for Near-Death Experiences and the visuals in dreams) would not have done a thing to help him.
Interestingly the REM he was encountered probably kept him from dying within a few weeks, but without deep sleep not to mention the variety of damage done to the thalamus (massive) and temporal lobes (comparitively minor) apparenlty you can't live.
So... I'm already 9months w/o sleep or even level 2 sleep. :(
danceofeternity3824 1 day ago
i got distracted , hold on vsauce
melchan98 1 month ago 8
Couldn't they have given him euthenasia?
SongsofInnocence 2 months ago
We can only hope this curse will some day leave them...the thing I don't completely understand is why the people who know the risk have to have kids naturally. They can still be parents if they adopt, and they wouldn't risk passing on the gene. I know I'm in no place to judge...it just seems like it could prevent lots of suffering.
KgirlHasTheWits 3 months ago 3
@KgirlHasTheWits I never understood this either.
What's wrong with adoption? Why must children be blood-related?
Why people with horrible genetic diseases like this choose to procreate is beyond me.
mickeymouse12678 2 months ago 2
praise god i can sleep again thanks to this
baselinez 3 months ago
Wow. After watching at some "my shocking story" episodes i'm so ashamed that I complained about shitty things in the past
JUSTEPOUR18PIGES 3 months ago
WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT HIM ASLEEP OR SOMETHING... MAYBE PUNCH HIM?
kentandken 3 months ago
@kentandken It doesn't work that way...
mickeymouse12678 2 months ago
stop having babies!
205georgie 4 months ago 4
this is such a rare disease..and yet they manage to marry into another family with same disease?? stop inbreeding, people!!
Muxxyy 5 months ago
What about psychedelics? I wouldn't be surprised if by altering some states in the mind through psychedelics can or will most likely change how the brain will function. Sometimes even permanently. I think it's worth a shot.
anime891 6 months ago
I have experienced the complete inability to sleep, thanks to evil drugs benzodiazepines. Never ever take these drugs.It is pure torture. I imagine the kicker is if sleep meds do not work; that is bizarre. Am I correct in saying they have no idea why sleep meds never work?
hollybee43 6 months ago
Hmm it's a Prion? *sigh* curse those bloody things.
QBisbest 7 months ago
Can somebody please explain to me what's going on with me when I try to sleep?
Random parts of my suddenly moves as if someone pushed me or, pulled my hands or feet up fast.
The only thing I noticed when that thing happens is when I'm trying to sleep and my brain's still imagining or thinking unconsciously.
Nullstr1ng 7 months ago
@Nullstr1ng
Hey,
could be a hypnic jerk you're experiencing... this occurs just when you are about to fall asleep, you are drifting off and then suddenly you Jump and feel like you've been shaken awake. is that how it feels?
Dachandman13 7 months ago
wait wait.. so if they fall asleep AT ALL, they die?
SangYeopKim 8 months ago
The man with giant head was way more cool !
69BearPedo 8 months ago
but my brain same deadpool brain right now
christer12241984 9 months ago
Sleep?...HA!!! I'm IB...We don't have time for sleep... XD
TheLastCurlbender 9 months ago
*cont that you suffer this condition will be enough to keep you up for days... if you are still convinced that you have this condition go get yourself tested but I guarantee that there is another more common cause to your insomnia and you are going to regret investing all that money into a test you didnt need.
vashsan71 10 months ago
Everyone should know that 50 million americans suffer from some form of insomnia... if you suffer from depression or anxiety problems or have a family history of it, then that is gonna be the cause of chronic insomnia...it has been proven to be the primary cause of it... FFI is passed from genes... the chances of your family having it is 0.000001 percent. and the sporadic fatal insomnia youre a 100 times less likely to have that... and another word of advice, watching these videos and thinking..
vashsan71 10 months ago
and that what said about medical etc,it wouldnt help because his hypotalamus is destroying by prions
bibi5027 10 months ago
god bless you
AmandacooL8 10 months ago
how sadening may allah bless u guys
chesse777 10 months ago
@chesse777 lol muslim flame war starts here everyone yell at me :D
KlayKillProductions 10 months ago
@KlayKillProductions drangon ball-z shit is gona go down, dragon ball-z middle eastern style lol
chesse777 10 months ago
@chesse777 lol, im kiddin man, i aint gonna rip on you.
*respec knuckles"
KlayKillProductions 10 months ago
@KlayKillProductions sweet *return respect knuckles*
chesse777 10 months ago
What if you were hit with a blow from an ice pick to your stomach or something. Would you pass out from shock if you had this?
AirbornDragonKite 11 months ago
anyone ever think to give the guy a joint
krypekeeper 11 months ago
@krypekeeper Would not work, but DMT probably would :)
mudcrock 11 months ago
@mudcrock all DMT would do is make him dream more
krypekeeper 11 months ago
knock out gas ???
basslinet 11 months ago
tranquilizer darts nuff said
antigay7 11 months ago
At 9:49, Does that say Bologna?!?!? OMG. 0.o
Nadasulaki 1 year ago
DAMN YOU FREDDY KREUGER DAMN YOU! B(
weezyfan25 1 year ago
i'm not sayin i have this disease alright so fuck off people, i'm just sayin here that i'm usually deprived of sleep, usually i'll only get incroments or however you spell that of anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes of sleep at a time and some days i just won't sleep at all. i'm sure there's a name for it but i'm not so concerned about it because after a week or so of sleep deprivation i'll actually lay down and just pass out and sleep for about 2 to 3 days straight... usually 2 days
TheMayday101 1 year ago
@TheMayday101 wtf? for reals? u gotta start doing sports at daytime so that ur excausted at night time. pluss u should smoke weed before u go 2 sleep. maybe watch a movie and when theres like 1 hour left of it u smoke some nice weed and try 2 sleep after that 1 hour. yes im fucking serious
DonkymanCominAtYa 11 months ago
@DonkymanCominAtYa i shit you not man i fuckin swear it but i'm extremely active during the day and probabally more active during the night i mean i straight up smoke motherfuckers in sports and shit but i just can't fuckin sleep or anything until i actually just pass the fuck out
TheMayday101 10 months ago
Thats so tragic
RsV1d3os 1 year ago
Maybe Freddie haunted the,...
gachman 1 year ago
I wonder whether Neurofeedback or Audio Visual Entrainment would help with this type of illness. Has anyone hear of either one being researched/tested?
BrandNeurofeedback 1 year ago
what if you knock them out like the pre-surgery anesthetics??
dendara100 1 year ago
@dendara100
Even the strongest sedatives don't work for this kind of insomnia. It was mentioned in the video that they only made him worse.
SSJkiller 11 months ago
@dendara100 wow im sure they never thought of that.......
ooMatttyooo 11 months ago
I stayed up for over 60 hours....after which I only got about 3 hours before staying up for another 16. After about 40 hours it's terrible. It becomes difficult to walk, difficult to stand, and after 60 hours you start losing the ability to speak properly. I know some people will stay up for days with drugs like meth.....but once you've experienced it without stimulants of any kind....it's hell. I can't even imagine what it would be like to die from not sleeping.
joestl314 1 year ago
makes me want to go lay down an appreciate the good sleep i can get!
AmberHopePierce 1 year ago 44
maybe Thalamocortical Dysrhythmia can also cause Insomnia.
sof2finchy 1 year ago
Actually being put to sleep wont work... we talked about this in my psychology class...your brain can never fall asleep.. so even if you go under... for lets say, surgery... your brain never really falls asleep... what it is is the part in your brain that lets you fall sleep, deteriorates with the disease.
snoopygonewilder 1 year ago
4. ) I even ask the doc for a horse tranquilizer or just a tranquilizer in general i guess he thought i was joking cause he just kept prescribing other forms of anti-depressants ) But for them pot wouldn't even do the trick WOW what agony they must be in
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
3. ) Pot puts me right out ( I only use pot after several days not being able to sleep, i dont use it just for the fun of it. I use it as an insomnia medication because over the counter sleep aids dont work nor do anti-depressants which BTW take at least 2 to 3 weeks being in your system before they take effect . And when i need to sleep i need to sleep now and not 2 to 3 weeks from the time i start taking medication. .
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
2. ) But this.. however, I can't even begin to imagine going through that for nine months. I've found that pot helps with my insomnia.
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
1. ) Damn I Feel I should NEVER complain about my insomnia again. My record is 6 days with no sleep and even that's agony, wanting to sleep but not being able to or to feel your body start to drift off but as soon as you have that drift off feeling your body jerks you awake or as you're about to drift off to sleep you feel as if you are falling which again causes me to jerk awake sometimes even jump up out of my bed, seriously !!! that's what i go through
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
This is making me tired!
crispycrab 1 year ago
I have never been able to sleep well my whole my life. I remember being in my cot/crib wide awake for much of the night trying to sleep. I was on prescribed sleeping pills by the age of 10 and now at 22 I still get it every now and then. This would be my idea of hell. I suppose that they only discovered it recently because it's only within that past several hundred years that people have been living long enough for symptoms to show.
pokemonprincess1988 1 year ago
omg it's like inception
gladitsnotme 1 year ago
I love sleeping <3
kianaahsan 1 year ago
I would adopt children if I knew I had this
Juliabeach 1 year ago
My heart and sympathy goes out to the family this is truly dreadful.... RIP to all the unlucky sufferers :(
OneStepInTime 1 year ago
i have ffi
christer12241984 1 year ago
@christer12241984 Do you really? Not trying to discount your claim but are you only experiencing a chronic insomnia problem? The reason I ask this is because there are people who watch videos like this and relate it to the insomnia they are experiencing at that time.
If you are being real, I intrigued. Were you genetically tested? Did one of your parents die from it? Are you going through it now? If you don't want to respond here you may PM me about your experiences.
WeatherMondacicci 1 year ago 29
@WeatherMondacicci but he probably mixing FFI,with normal insomnia,I had insomnia since my 15,and now I am OK
bibi5027 8 months ago
@christer12241984
I seriously doubt that.
CharlieTeague 1 year ago
@christer12241984 you have sick brain,cuse If you were normal,so you didnt say such ...
bibi5027 10 months ago
@christer12241984 bullshit
MURAB1TON 9 months ago
@christer12241984
Comment posted 1 year ago
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If you have FFI, you would have been dead by now (6 months)
miketemify 7 months ago
People who have tried barbituates to sleep have gone into a coma, without even experiencing REM sleep. I am glad that I only have sleep apnoea, which is treated quite well with CPAP therapy - FFI has no successful treatment - and would be a torturous way to die. I know how prolonged insomnia feels, I am glad that I was able to fix the problem....
Sprekitek 1 year ago
@Sprekitek Yes, experiencing insomnia is normal and does feel torturous. Not being able to sleep is probably one of the worst things to experience and that is why mankind has figured out how to use sleep deprivation as a form of torture to get something out of that individual or individuals. It is also used as a form of brainwashing to make people compliant.
WeatherMondacicci 1 year ago 5
@WeatherMondacicci I'm not hating or anything, but I just wanted to point out that insomnia is much more uncommon than people think it is. When people cannot sleep at night it usually has to do with nervousness, digestion, running thoughts, etc. But insomnia is actually a sleeping disorder. 'One has insomnia therefore cannot sleep', not 'one cannot sleep therefore has insomnia." i don't mean to be so technical, it's just that many people in my family have it bad (including me)
BrightEyes10003 2 weeks ago
@Sprekitek at this disease ,taking barbituraty or sleep tablets is for nothing,cuse your hypophyza is devasted,she cant produce melatonin,
bibi5027 8 months ago
smoke weed and eat a hash bar. that will put you to sleep.
MrWestsida1234 1 year ago
its like a curse...
DragonWing17 1 year ago
would opiate's or cannabis help?
Jacarter99 1 year ago
Any drugs to try to force them to sleep don't actually help, they make it worse. Problem is that the part of the brain that makes/allows you to go to sleep is literally being destroyed, you do not have the ability to sleep. So no, they may put you in a coma, but not sleep.
XTheGuvX 1 year ago
I just came from a video about christian creationism theories - u can imagine the Bullshit... how the f**k would they explain stuff like that!
My recomendation to anybody who has any genetic link to FFS: get sterilized. If it doesn't get you, it might get your children, if not the grand-children then the great-grandchildren .... but it will get someone along the line. There is no disease worst than FSI,
fenriz218 1 year ago
@fenriz218
I'm sorry but I find that comment absolutely disgusting!
fekfika stutulo!
WilhelmDrake 1 year ago
what about anesthetic, when you go under for surgery, I wonder if that would work
rainbowspite222 2 years ago
@rainbowspite222 I am not sure about that, there might be some research on that, but I doubt it would work since the problem is in the thalamus which has pretty much been shredded.
Barbituates have been known to prove ineffective and hasten death. I am sure that GA could render someone unconscious but because the mechanism to sleep has been damaged it wouldn't be a replacement for sleeping.
WeatherMondacicci 2 years ago
@WeatherMondacicci I read of one patient who tried anesthesia. It was somewhat helpful at first, but it didn't last as I recall. Even the anesthesia would sometimes only give him 15 minutes of sleep.
Jesusisyhwh 11 months ago
@rainbowspite222 I read of one patient who tried anasthesia (among other things) to help him sleep. I did help a little bit. Very little overall.
Jesusisyhwh 1 year ago
@rainbowspite222 After anestetic your brain is not relaxed,sleep is sleep,anestetic,is anestetic,big different
bibi5027 10 months ago
@rainbowspite222 I've read that sleeping pills just speed up the FFI process. I think that the aesthetic could do the same but you never know.
iluv2cheer2010 8 months ago
no weed won't help. i heard they gave someone enough barbiturates to cause a coma, and it barely had an effect.
Zelithe 2 years ago
oh, I feel so sorry for that lady who lost her husband and her children. /:
shorteylove 2 years ago
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I am not downing the disease...but it doesnt make sense to me how even if the "control" of sleep doesn't work, you KNOW you need sleep. So even if they try they can't sleep? Are there some type of issues blocking sleep in general, or just FALLING asleep?
Give those people a xanax and a blunt. Tell me your not sleepy, go ahead. :P
Suppozo 2 years ago
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couple of beers and a joint will do the job
MrBloodyAngry 2 years ago
No, that actually won't help, lol
WeatherMondacicci 2 years ago
You fucking idiot if they could sleep they would wouldn't they. They have a disease that makes them so they cant go to sleep. They have told you this all the way through the documentry. Arsehole!
kyleslovelylemons 1 year ago
i had years of inability to sleep or wake .. just huge zombie-like fatigue... Eventually i sort of 'borrowed' my partner's brain to help me sleep a bit. !! Now i just have chronic fatigue. Just realised my dad has a problem sleeping and swallowing .. :(
Fraterculae 2 years ago
can't they give them something to knock them out?
Sammicsno 2 years ago
No, FFI is a prion disease, it destroys the thalamus by creating plaque aggregates IIRC, thus communication between the thalamus and the rest of the cerebral cortex is virtually gone. Barbituates would have no effect and even hasten death.
WeatherMondacicci 2 years ago
If he was having REM sleep, than giving him some DMT (a chemical which naturally exists in the body and is a hallucinogen believed to be responsible for Near-Death Experiences and the visuals in dreams) would not have done a thing to help him.
Interestingly the REM he was encountered probably kept him from dying within a few weeks, but without deep sleep not to mention the variety of damage done to the thalamus (massive) and temporal lobes (comparitively minor) apparenlty you can't live.
CVKent317 2 years ago
I'm sorry..you were saying? Who are you talking to! Are you ok?
knuffies2007 2 years ago
Yeah I'm fine, basically he is talking about the mechanics of how the brain process sleep.
WeatherMondacicci 2 years ago
Correct
CVKent317 2 years ago