4 01 Is there a such a thing called a Soul Mate

[Cherubaby]

Wasn't Eve specificially made for Adam? How are Soulmates Selfish when they are supposed to complement each other? It is not selfish because you live to serve him and he lives to serve you. Nothing selfish about that!

[tinalilith]

We don't have a "soul mate"; we have "soul mates", a group of people who share a spiritual journey with you. They are like fellow travellers, and you will recognize one when you see him/her, then you can have a connection on a "soul" level with that person, be it a romantic partner, a friend, or a family member. If you are married to one such fellow-traveller, even if the marriage itself does not work and ends in separation, the connection stays and the friendship does not fade.

[wd0gcp]

If someone actually were your "soul mate", they would fit the character of love in 1 Cor 13. Where you are weak, they would be strong, and you would be the same for them. Yes, being equally yoked is important, as well, for two together can carry the weight that 3 individually can carry, but they must be pulling in the same direction, and with the same strength, or they are bound to failure. I believe God would rather fix a broken relationship, than have us look for someone else, though.

[wd0gcp]

One last thing: I don't claim to understand how God's sovereignty and our "free will" work together, but then, I'm not God. Only God has the ability to be sovereign while allowing us to have "free will". I believe this is part of God's image in us. As someone else mentioned, God doesn't want robots, who follow Him because we're programmed to. He wants us to choose Him, and he wants us to chose our mate based on more than feelings. A mate that is too much like us can also be bad...

[wd0gcp]

I do agree that God chose people for purposes and even told people He wanted them together. The question is, like with the servant who was sent to find a wife for Isaac, are we "in the way (God's pathway)" so that the Lord can lead us to the person He knows will "fit" well? I believe that even when we claim to seek His will in a mate, it's more like "I want your perfect will, but would you please make him/her like this and this and .... ?" ....

[wd0gcp]

Okay, not sure if there is a "soul mate" for everyone, as we have the concept, however, I know that there are cases where someone has prayed for God to show them or bring them or reveal to them someone that would be best for them, and God has answered. In other cases, God seems not to answer, but there may be "lusts" in our heart that, like with anything we ask for, God will not give us our request, because we would just ruin the relationship with our lusts....

[vma82]

I am married and I am a Christian. I know what he is talking about, it is true. There is no "The One", that thinking will destroy relationships, will destroy people...you just have to ake it work - do what the Bible says in how to treat your spouse!

[lExis5tol]

Time is God... Go and analyse yourself.

[MaidenSRO]

True, if you can handle it, I cant.

[SydneySocks]

I disagree.

[MrWatcher101]

Makes a lot of sense! We put too much emphasis on romantic love.

[MrWatcher101]

Makes a lot of sense!

[LilFaerl]

This has nothing to do with god.

[MJx0413]

I think the point is that we romanticize it. People start to think that their spouse isn't making them happy, there must be someone better. That isn't biblical. Also, Paul writes that some people aren't meant to be married. This means that there isn't someone for everyone. And God can make any relationship better. You shouldn't switch spouses. You'll have the same problems. Work on your relationship and let God work on YOU and your spouse in HIS way. He can make any person, any relationship.

[rlight4God]

Welllllll this surely is a topic for discussion, isn't it?

My opinion is if someone comes into my life who is walking about the same pace and going the same direction as I am, it's normal to strike up a conversation w/that person. So, if I happen to strike a conversation & later fall in love w/a guy who shares my goals & dreams for this life, then yay for us. But it's called the Straight & Narrow for a reason - I think single ppL waste precious time "looking" for "the one".

1 Cor. 7:27

[janetcbaker]

I do NOT believe any two people can enjoy the spiritual gifts of a God centered marriage if we simply apply forgiveness, etc. The Bible tells us to be equally yoked, and that God has pre-ordained those He has chosen...there are many references to leading Christ-like lives and marraige. If God weren't involved, I could never have met my husband of 25 years living different trajectories on opposite sides of the tracks, or getting closer and closer the older we get and focus on God

[vanessaevelyn]

BRIL LI ANT!!!!!!!! BRILLIANT!!! YOUR MIND SO WELL TWISTED. LVOE LOVE LOVE

[yorgisali]

"Soul Mates" is a reductionist caricature of far greater realities unfolding in the subjective realms of the potential partners. No amount of haggling in the fictional "objective" realm can prevail over discord in the subjective realms of the partners. Only soul sharing can do that, and assure a lasting partnership. In western countries, the near total ignorance of soul processes makes the option of soul sharing and "Soul Mates" rather impossible.

[Victororiousone]

there is nothing called a soul mate in the Bible, BUT God made eve for adam. Sampsons first wife was of God, and there is another one who asked God to let him know if the girl was right by saying have her offer water to him and his animals. The reason people arent finding the right person is because #1 they dont have go'd standards, they have their own... and then they dont follow Gods standards. No... two people cannot succeed..God says do not be unequally yoked.

[taragamet]

the word Soul mate makes me want to puke. iv been married two years now and he to tease me calls me his soul mate. It sounds like you get a half piece of a charm when your born and there is ONLY ONE who has the other half. thats wrong. my husband has been married before and iv been engaged before. im sure God hated to see our heart break. God wants us to be HAPPY he gave us someone to love as a GIFT but not to play match maker. otherwise the men and women who die their person gets no one..

[ildifeith]

First of all he doesn't really "knows" if there are soulmates or not, just like we don't "know" if there is really a God, BUT we all can choose to BELIEVE IN IT (or not...).

I think it's TRAGIC that he thinks this way. Very sad.

[MrLeviaFUN]

@ildifeith -- ............. says the agnostic. If christianity was true, would you become a believer ?

[mizoo8]

@ JCfromDC2, PikaCook, silverd20.

Apologies for the late reply, I don't check this very often :(

Another apology for answering yall in one go but I don't intend to debate your points as they are all valid in their own right and whether I agree with them is a different, longer and perhaps irrelevant debate. The only point I was trying to make as a Christian is that he misinterpreted the scripture. I don't disagree or agree 100% with him and I don't wish to debate his view. Thanks and God bless.

[sara092]

well... Eve was made for Adam.. especially for him o_O Genesis 2:18 It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him..

so if Eve was made for Adam, why aren't I made for someone too.. :?

[ituber23]

No he is wrong! There are soulmates he just dosent have a soul

[go6okmeta]

This is such a load of horseshit. Any two people can succeed? Sure, if they give up on having a good time (basically what he's saying), then yeah - they can totally succeed... I pity the fools...

[mizoo8]

I like the way he approaches relationship issues, however, I have to point out the misrepresentation in his Biblical references. The Bible tells us that God created Eve for Adam. we are no different. It also tells us that God has a plan for each and everyone of us. So it is not un-biblical to believe that God has a plan for you which might even include your other half. The trick is to try and live God's plan rather than try to find that special someone while living your own plan... I think!

[JCfromDC2]

@mizoo8 You got "God made Eve for Adam" right, but look what happened to THEM. not exactly a "perfect" relationship as it turned out. The rest of His plan has nothing to do with matchmaking "made in Heaven". That's not his job, either

[MrLeviaFUN]

@JCfromDC2 -- where do you get the idea that their relationship wasn't a perfect one ? If you are referring to the incident of eating the forbidden fruit, I do not see the parallel !? What does that say about their relationship being good OR bad ?

[PikaCook]

@mizoo8 This Guy is an humouristic motivator. Actually, he will make his speech funny and fluid. He needs to push his ideas. He is not a doctor, he is not a professor. I do not say he is not professional because he is. But the point is that he will try to chock. And for the bible thing, well it is his opinion. It sounds like you think he bases all his thoughts around the bible. He will make his logical reasoning funny. And it is not a bad thing to have different opinion... he shared his, good!

[silverd20]

@mizoo8 don't take this the wrong way, but it's quotes like these that made me wish I had faith XD

[genius9742]

@mizoo8 that's right...i was about to mention eve and adam but then i read your comment :P and is just what i wanted to say :)

[taragamet]

@mizoo8 he has a plan for us but he didnt make another person JUST FOR YOU. my parents are 14 years apart in age (my husbands parents are also) God didnt go "opps i forgot to make that boy a girl.....ok ill do it now" thats dumb.

God made eve because other then animals ADAM was it! God made MORE PEOPLE because he knew people need people thats all. its not like we are born with a half of a charm and we have to FIND THE OTHER PIECE!

[taragamet]

@mizoo8 also then that means all the people who died before marriage GOD knew that and didnt bother making them someone? or does that person now get no one because their other half is now dead?

im married and i know im with who GOD WANTS me with but i could of married any of my exs. each would of been a different road. all would of been harder in some and easier in other ways. but I ended up with who i felt would make my life happier. and thats all God wants.

[JamesWitte]

@mizoo8 In some cases God might have someone especially planned. but in the majority of cases, Mark is right.

[Trox118]

@mizoo8 I agree.

[TheInfinite91]

@mizoo8 God made Eve for Adam...the first man was given the first woman. There was no one else. So really, how could Adam and Eve be soul mates in the sense that we apparently believe in today? Also, there union wasn't perfect.

[007mauri]

@mizoo8 I think you're right but when he says that the most important is doing the right thing, considering the right thing is following God's plan for your life, then it is somehow included. Of course, I'm saying more or less the same you're saying, hehe. On the other hand, God is the final Goal absolutely speaking, therefore, even marriage election is subordinate to that end, in the sense it must co-help in going there and in reaching that destination.

[cmdrdatayt]

@mizoo8 It's cherry-picking verses like you did that has so many people so miserable when their lives don't work that way. You have to consider the whole Bible, not a couple verses that out of context to support what we want to think. We are not like Adam and Eve. We were born, have parents, and aren't going to live forever even if we follow all of God's commandments.

[cmdrdatayt]

In every other instance in the Bible, God, or Abraham, or whoever says to just go pick one. Their ONLY concern is that the mate be from their own people. (Not unequally yoked and so forth.)

If you read your Bible more you'll find that your stance is of the world, not Biblical. The world says if it doesn't work out you just picked wrong. That's not Biblical.

[Aximili00]

I agree with almost he has to say here...but the thing is there is the possibility of soulmates...his explaination against it's possibility i have to disagree (a free thinker here btw..sorry to all you religious peeps)...for one thing "soulmates" is another version of hope for alot of ppl...but i do agree that even if you id you so called soulmates and you dont work hard in that relationship and treat the other person well..then you will lose that person...

[ImaGamer333]

@Aximili00 How do you agree with almost everything when thats all he is talking about

[Docsutter]

Soulmate??? No, God didn't make a mate specific for you. It's electronic. It comes down to fequencies. Everyone oscillates at a specific fequency and when you run into someone who is pretty close to your own frequency there is indeed a bond there. If of the opposite sex very often the sparks fly, there's electricity in the air - you can feel it. Soul mate? No. But very rare and usually works quite well if they get hooked up together. Ken

[azgirl777]

Wow this was really great. An awesome dose of reality!

[DelilahZoe]

AWESOME!! This is the most accurate message I've heard coming from an American mouth. =D

[litoslitoslitos]

In short, we are responsible for our choices& other peoples bad choices affect those who don't necessarily make consistent bad choices or the same bad choice

[litoslitoslitos]

He knew, but he had a solution for the bad decision. Jesus on the Cross. I'm sure God doesn't enjoy us suffering, just to get to know him. That makes him a merciless God. God showed justice and mercy, by allowing eve to make use of her freedom to choose good or bad.

[Drakon222]

@litoslitoslitos I'm not "into" any major religion but I can tell you one thing - suffering can (though not 'must') make you better, more reasonable, tougher etc. And if you believe in a supreme being that is the father of everything living, you'll come closer to knowing that phenomenon by hardships. I'm telling you, no pain - no gain. Better knowledge of life means a better knowledge of God (if you believe ANY).

[litoslitoslitos]

#2 we can't assume that he allows suffering only that we may get to know him better. e.g.the angels know God intimately, in ways we can't even imagine. And to say that He knew that Eve would sin, and consequently would suffer the consequences of her sin, only to get to know GOd better or to bring out the best in her and Adam, only lets me know that I am responsible for my own actions, and that GOd didn't create robots that follow him around and worship him at the push of a button.

[litoslitoslitos]

@kingkumaforever...I've been reading the nutricious comments all of you have made. However, i would like to comment on the last one(kingkumaforever).  #1, God didn't destroy Job's or anyones relationship or finances.

[samurai1833]

Wow I wish I would have heard this before my divorce. Or better yet before I got married...this is really good advice. And I made many of the mistakes this guy speaks about.

[bleachelf77]

Again, this man is amazing! This is exactly what the LDS/Mormon Church teaches! Only Mark's funnier. Hehe. His insight is fantastic!

God is all-knowing, yes, but we have agency. We are in charge of such important things as choosing a spouse. Who you marry can *become* your soul mate, when you build your relationship. But don't hold out looking for that. It's not there. Who you marry is no one else's decision, though God will help you in your choice.

Thanks, Mark!

[PhiliptheUSFr]

he's not mormon, the LDS church is a cult

[bleachelf77]

I know he's not LDS. I wrote that it's what we teach. He's Celebration Church, I believe? He's super awesome!

A cult, huh? Haha, you're funny.

[sislau]

@PhiliptheUSFr - Wow, that was closed minded and pathetic ... Regardless of what any religion teaches, why bother even making a comment like that? The point the other person was making is that something about the philosophy of one religion was the same as the presenter's idea, and then they complimented the presenter on how well they were presenting ... Can't the compliment stand on it's own?

[KingKumaForever]

I disagree completely with him on this one. If God is all knowing (which he is) then he knows the beginning from the end. He chooses when you're going to be born, where your going to live, the numbers of hair on your head, what gender you're going to be, and ultimately who you're going to end up with.

Also, doing the right thing doesn't necessarily mean you're going to have a successful relationship with your wife or kids, look what happened to Job.

[shelwonone]

@KingKumaForever I would have to agree with you on this one. What does it mean when it says "Whosoever God puts together, let not man put asunder." Just sayin'. I think there is such a thing as a "soul mate". It's just really hard to come by or see becos of the world's ways of having it the McDonald's way...fast and easy..."Oh...I need to be in a relationship now...cos I'm so lonely, etc..." This is just my 2 cents worth. I respect all opinions. This is just mine. Respectfully. :)

[shelwonone]

It's not about finding that "perfect person". It's about centering God in your life and allowing God to "connect" you who you belong with in His perfect plan. This is what I truly believe. Like I said...the Bible does clearly state, "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." Mark 10:9. If that doesn't back up my belief that God can connect two people...as if they are called to be together (soul mates)...I don't know what does. Just sayin'. :)

[Qrazii]

The perfect person is who you end up with. It's like the perfect job and the perfect house and the perfect anything, it all requires work to develop and to maintain. But unlike a job and a house, etc, we should go around looking for new spouses when we feel it is time to move on.

[sislau]

@shelwonone - What I believe that scripture references to is the WAY in which people are married. If they are doing things 'right', with proper spiritual authority, tis good. If they're running off to Vegas or eloping for the sake of the McDonald's way (as you're putting it--which I completely agree with you on), then that is not God's way and therefore has no binding. If all things are done in order and with proper authority, God will back us till the end of time and beyond.

[Qrazii]

You never read the entire Book of Job, did you!

Forgive me, but you're coming across as having very little patience doing the right things in your marriage.

[KingKumaForever]

Yes I have read the book of Job and what is your point?

[sislau]

@KingKumaForever - Sure God is all knowing, but WE have been given the agency to choose, BY HIM ... If we blow it, and behave selfishly, how is that His fault? If WE pick someone to marry, and it's not the right person, how is that His fault? If we're idiots in how we act in this life, that's not some cosmic plan created by God for us to suffer ... That's because of OUR choices alone ... I think Mark is spot on, especially the way he's presenting it.

[KingKumaForever]

@sislau Yes I understand that much like how we are also given the agency to choose HIM! even though (ultimately) it is HIM who chooses us John15:16. So while we may be the one who makes the choice in our spouse, God is the one who is weaving each plan together - whether it be good or bad.

So yes, while making bad choices isn't part of God's choices for us... it's still a entire plan God is working all together for Good.

[Qrazii]

@KingKumaForever I totally appreciate what you're saying and it has merit. Think of this, if God orchestrates things in our lives or at least allows it, it does not make Him accountable for the moral decisions we make. We are "free moral agents".

Hence there is God's will and then there is the will of the world, and if we choose to make decisions for the things within the will of the world, we suffer the consequences. But until we repent and make another decision, this time, to submit.......

[Qrazii]

@KingKumaForever .......then we will remain in the decadence of our choices. Remember forgiveness, mercy, justice, compassion...these also work in marriage relationships and ultimately all relationships.

[KingKumaForever]

@Qrazii I disagree. Job was a man of forgiveness, mercy, justice, and compassion and yet we see God test him by completely distroying his relationship between not only his family but his finances. Doing the right thing doesn't necessarily mean it's going to bring the right results. Sometimes God allows bad things to happen in order to bring the best things out of everyone. God knew that eve would sin and he allowed it in order to cause suffering so that we may know him more intimately.

[Qrazii]

@KingKumaForever God did not destroy Job's possessions and family, the devil did. God allowed it because God knew He could restore it. Other than that, even if God had chosen not to, the value of a man's soul is worth more than obtaining things in this life. If you check after (I believe it's chapter 28) if I am not mistaken, Job was rebuked by God because Job apparently was a bit self-righteous. Check it out. Besides, how can the clay say to the Potter, why have you made me?

[qwuad61]

do yourselves a favor folks and stay single.