Just think how clean and dry that sky is to allow someone with an SLR camera and tripod to capture such images. That photographer must have and iron constitution to boot to avoid medical issues to work in such nose bleed conditions.
You must have been reading my mind, I was just thinking about setting up for the 1st time this year, and with some new equipment even. I bought an 8 inch Astrotech RC astrograph plus got my CCD imager repaired.The active cooler was faulty and froze/ got moisture on the chip. Thanks for the video, it was great!!!
howe come my 2,000 dollar sony hd camera doesnt do this? i want to capture whats in the sky that you dont normaly see just like this video? im guesing you have to spend thoudands of dollars for a good camera or a high profetional camera... the one i have records HD small compact video camera.
@maksphoto78 if u simply search around, u will find numerous physics forums were ppl clearly more intelligent than me or u are debating this topic. To simply believe what we are told without any conclusive evidence would b naive and the very definition of indoctrinated. I do not say geocentrism is right, nor heliocentrism wrong, only that there is not enough evidence to b sure of anything. that is all. All further comments shall b reserved for the amazement of this vid. troll out.
Spoted a wierd anomaly. At 8:33, you see 1 star coming out of the center of the galaxy (in the top center of the screen), staying completly still in relation to the camera position. Another one appear at the same exact spot while the first one slowly fade away. A third one appear, and does the same thing as the first, and then a fourth one.
Any idea what caused this? My best bet would be a geostationary satelite.
PS: I see them in 720p, I don't know if you can in lower resolution.
@vava54own HA yeah I see them, certainly meteor, I mean, just dust and little rocks consuming in our atmosphere, it happens everyday, every 10 minutes maybe, or more
I don't think you see the same thing I do. The thing I see are STATIC in relation to the camera. They last 1-2 second each (which mean it is much longuer since this is a timelaps)
@vava54own Damn, you do have a good eye, if you hadn't say anything i would've never catch it, but yeah, you're right, four "stars" appear, one after the other and then disappear. Maybe it is a satelite, what else could it be? Now i'm curious, is there any scientist here that could shed some light on this? Yeah, i know we're on YT, but oh well
@iAMr3VOLution1 You, sir, fail at life. Just observe the other planets (perfectly seen this month) and track their movement, they will loop back on themselves - that is because of the different elliptical orbits of each planet.
@iAMr3VOLution1 the equation of pull of gravity. the earth isnt strong enough to have all the other planets circuling it. it needs a massive object like the sun to hold all the other planets in place.
@machleid this is a valid point, finally, thank u. interesting, stellar parallax was used Against heliocentrism in early modern ages. This was Tycho's main objection to it. Tycho was a geocentrist, as well as many other astronomers then. wiki even says, "the angles involved in calculations are very small and thus difficult to measure". If this is evidence, it is very weak, at best. solar parallax also sounds sketchy Attempting to prove heliocentricity.
@machleid see, they are both perfectly viable.. the Ptolemaic system has it all worked out. 'deferent and epicycles' account for parallax. wiki this stuff, its all there. im jus sayin there is absolutely no real conclusive evidence on this stuff man. and my infos comin from a former professor who has a radio show now. wwwantimatterradiocom. he is more than educated on this subject. if u kno how to send large emails i send u the show
@machleid i see why ppl get defensive bout this subject. it forms the basis of our entire belief system. and challenging that shakes down to the core of it. jus amazing that something with absolutely no evidence is so strongly believed by us all when it Maybe, i say maybe...not b true. my third source of info is ..
Google: exposing the copernican deception
there is more than enough citation for you to begin to question. just question it, thats all. absolutely amazing to ponder dont u think
@machleid i see why ppl get defensive bout this subject. it forms the basis of our entire belief system. and challenging that shakes down to the core of it. jus amazing that something with absolutely no evidence is so strongly believed by us all when it Maybe, i say maybe...not b true. my third source is ..
google: exposing the copernican deception
more than enough citation in there to at least hav u begin to quesion. simply question it, it is absolutely amazing to ponder
I don't seem myself as getting defensive, but I'll do my best not to be simply reactionary.
I'll agree that to a first approximation, a geocentric model is acceptably close to truth to be useful. As is the flat earth model.
However, in both cases, as actual evidence mounts, our initial impressions must be revised. Close examination of the real state of the world conflicts with the geocentric model. Therefore, it's not a model worth keeping around for anything more than...
We have better models now. And they will be discarded when still better models are developed.
It's not a conspiracy or dogmatism: it's being willing to cast aside what doesn't work in favor of what does. It's being biased in favor of the truth, even when that truth is humbling.
Oh, and I'm glad you have access to a former professor. I have a degree in Physics (including some astro) myself. Education is not a bad thing.
@machleid agreed to the last half of that. all in all, science still does not yet hav hard conclusive evidence of either model so all possibilities should b contemplated. good debate. since u were the only one who could actually cite possible evidence, i commend you.
sigh... you want more evidence? Try this one: stellar aberration, discovered by James Bradley in 1725. Like parallax, it's an observed annual motion of every star. And it is caused ONLY by the orbital velocity of the earth, and does not depend on the velocities of the stars themselves. Good luck explaining that one.
Well, if you don't accept the evidence, it makes perfect sense not to accept the conclusions drawn from it by those who do.
Speaking of evidence, do you have any examples of rigorous experiments that support geocentricity? By "rigorous" I mean hard, verifiable, objective measurements to a high degree of resolution. Like the parallax experiment, for example.
Perhaps something that explains the retrograde motion of mars within the geocentric model?
@machleid yea Ptolemy's model of an 'equant' explains retrograde of mars, explains it all.. as does copernican model. but no, i dont know anything truly conclusive for either.
@Pulsar89 the cmb dipole apparently just verifies that our solar system is in motion. and ud hav to elaborate on stellar aberration cuz that looks like it says the same thing, that were moving.
Well hello, that the entire point! We're moving! We move around the sun, the sun moves around the center of the galaxy, and our entire galaxy moves in our local cluster. That's a bit of a contradiction with geocentrism, don't you think?
@Pulsar89 that sounds like quite an assumption tho. aberration proves movement, whether it is movement of Earth or movement of other stars/galaxies that should still b in question.
sigh... I already told you that the movement does not come from the stars, but from the earth. Take a binary star system. Both stars move around each other, so each a different velocity relative to us. Yet both will have exactly the same aberration. The only explanation is the movement of the earth. That is a mathematically and physically proven fact, not an assumption!
@iAMr3VOLution1 eeehh, do you though about images of other solar system WHERE WE SEE PLANETS REVOLVING AROUND THERE SUN! And do you know gravity? Why would not Earth, a small rocky planet not orbiting around a FUCKING MASSIVE BALL OF GAS? And according to other solar system where WE SEE planet orbiting around there sun, why does Earth would not do the same thing? So your arguments are falling trought the hole of failed creationist arguments...
The actual evidence of even casual observation is perfectly consistent with heliocentircity: retrograde planetary motion, the pole star, eclipse timing on other moons and planets, partially v.s. fully illuminated planets and moons, etc.
How would your proposed geocentric model explain these observations, none of which require NASA?
explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
@Jagent u act like astrologers cant be extremely intelligent ppl. i just lean towards the belief of every single ancient culture who had the intelligence to build structures that modern man has absolutely no clue how they even built them. I question all beliefs, no need for all yall to get defensive and personal bout it
@iAMr3VOLution1 Not what I said. I was talking about how you can go outside and test heliocentrism yourself, how it has been tested and survived for hundreds of years. And then you come back and use people who make a living scamming others out of their money with their "magik" predictive powers as proof that the earth is the center of the universe.
I say again, if you honestly can't see the fundamental flaw in your argument, you're either a fool, a troll, or willfully ignorant.
@iAMr3VOLution1 Ok, let me get this right. You are countering what the world has believed for centuries by citing what a group of scam artists use to perpetrate their scam? I would think you'd question them as well.
And, again, you don't have to take anyone word for it. Just go outside, with a $30 telescope, and test both systems to your heart's content.
@Jagent not at all, forget the astrologers, scammin as some of them surely are. my point is that most, mayb all ancient civilizations believed in geocentrism, and since they were apparently much more intelligent that current humans, i question it, that is all. nevertheless, Amazing Vid uploader
@bengacris i suggest watching Graham Hancocks Quest for Lost Civilization. the ancients were buildin structures that science still hasnt an explanation of how they built them so precisely aligned with the stars and planets.
@iAMr3VOLution1 Oh god, you were talking about the pyramids... That's not really all that impressive when you think about it. They had literally decades to build those things, and they were building them for a living god. I'd try hard to get the alignment correct too.
Also, consider this. If modern humanity is so much dumber, why does cutting edge tech become outdated literally every two years? Why did we use bows and arrows for centuries?
@iAMr3VOLution1 I don't accept the idea that ancient civilizations were more intelligent, nor do I accept that science has no explanation for... what did they do that is unexplainable again? I hope you're not referring to the pyramids...
Besides, we are neither more intelligent or less. Since we have built on the achievements of those that came before us, we are more advanced, but the few thousand years that have passed have not been sufficient to allow much mutation in our species.
it is interesting to note that there is absolutely no evidence (other than NASA, which is a corporately run govt agency so cannot b trusted) that the Earth revolves around the Sun. Just as the majority of our public education was completely bogus, so might have been heliocentric model of our solar system.
I understand not trusting our government about SOME things...but about the Sun? Wtf? why would they lie about that, what the hell could they gain about that?
@JonO387 explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
@iAMr3VOLution1 Wow. Seriously? So the feds control all the various independently owned and operated amateur observatories across the world?
Watch out! They even control the sky! They have to, because when I take my $30 telescope and look at my scientifically generated heliocentric charts and try to find the planets, *gasp* they are exactly where they're supposed to be!
I agree that corps have too much influence in American politics, but don't go around dissing heliocentrism. you look foolish
@Jagent explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
@iAMr3VOLution1 Awesome!! Nice to meet you - I've never met a flat earther/geocentric before. U sound like the real deal too - Heliocentric theory - only a theory,right? lol. Gotta love it. Take care and be careful not to let the tinfoil helmet slip... :-)
@jeebersjumpincryst explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
Found the name of the guy! No wonder why I could understand it... his name is Gerhard Hüdepohl, if anybody is interested.
Other credit:
Music:John Dyson (from the albums "Darklight" and "Moonwind").
Footage and photos: ESO, Yuri Beletsky, Stéphane Guisard (eso(dot)org/~sguisard), Gerhard Hüdepohl (atacamaphoto(dot)com) and José Francisco Salgado.
@jgoemat Thanks, that sounds logical but i thought that the laser had to reflect back off something so that distortion could be measured and corrected for. Are they useing the reflectors left behind on the moon ?
@8824snipe There's a page on the Keck observatory's site that explains it. There's a layer in the upper mesosphere rich in sodium atoms deposited by meteorites. The laser is tuned to the right wavelength to excite these sodium atoms. The brightness of the artificial guide star varies depending on the density, but this is pretty stable and can be used to measure the rapid variations due to atmospheric turbulence below the layer.
I cannot get enough of this stuff. Life sciences are my passion and job but Cosmology is the next frontier, now that we have solved many of the questions regarding life and it's processes. I hope the youth of today appreciate the technology that exists now to be able to witness such wonders. Thanks for sharing. As voyagervsbor said, Thunderf00t and AndomedasWake are also great Cosmological YTers to check out.
You know you're an astronomy geek when you can identify many objects in this video. Rho Ophiuchi cloud complex, Small and Large Magellanic Clouds, California Nebula, the Pleiades, the Orion.
People don't know where/how to find these channels. No, rather they don't know they exist. I didn't- I only came across this channel and others like Ffreethinker rather recently.
All of Youtube's most subscribed that share the passion for proper education and knowledge like you, me and many many others do should advertise these damn channels. Most 12 and 13 year olds could do with some learning, it'll be voluntary learning too, no doubt, once they find out science is interesting.
AndromedasWake, cdk007, Evid3nc3, Don Exodus22, AgentXPQ, FFreeThinker, FFreeThinker2, JaguarJ0nes, ZOMGitsCriss, Thunderf00t, ScienceMagazine, Richarddawkinsdotnet, Potholer54, Potholer54debunks, Ozmoroid, WhyEvolutionisTrue, SpaceRip, LiberalViewer, Patcondell...and many many more to check out. Plenty of those channels suit the needs of just about everyone with an open mind :p. These people need more popularity imo, and deserve to lead Youtube. Haha.
Hey, can I escape the charges to the Atacama desert and hang out with the astronomers for a while? I would love to live in the atmosphere of the night, spectacular starry sky, high-tech instruments and academics.
There are exoplanets and Earth-like exoplanets. However, just because an exoplanet isn't Earth-like doesn't mean it can't support life.
There's no other planet like Earth in our solar system, but I'd bet money that we'll find evidence life (past or present) somewhere else in our own solar system.
Amazing!
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very impressive ... i would like to see that with my own eyes ...
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Just think how clean and dry that sky is to allow someone with an SLR camera and tripod to capture such images. That photographer must have and iron constitution to boot to avoid medical issues to work in such nose bleed conditions.
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JackyRBKwan 1 year ago
You must have been reading my mind, I was just thinking about setting up for the 1st time this year, and with some new equipment even. I bought an 8 inch Astrotech RC astrograph plus got my CCD imager repaired.The active cooler was faulty and froze/ got moisture on the chip. Thanks for the video, it was great!!!
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Breathtaking unbelieveable beauty.
When we forget, GOD made this!
AM2M 1 year ago
@AM2M ur kidding me right.. omg
JackyRBKwan 1 year ago
@JackyRBKwan Which part has you stumped??????????
AM2M 1 year ago
Looks like alphabetical letters at 05:31, they are very vague and hard to focus on but try flipping to fullscreen and you might see them.
Would be cool if some mighty alien species with the ability to move stars, used them just to write messages to other civilizations ;-)
CremeF 1 year ago
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CremeF 1 year ago
@CremeF, oh yeah! Says: "Eat at Joe's" right? ;)
shadownor 1 year ago
Very impressive imagery. I really liked the illusion of movement in the night sky.
TotallyAqua 1 year ago
thanks for sharing this beauty!
LIVEETERNALLOVE 1 year ago
howe come my 2,000 dollar sony hd camera doesnt do this? i want to capture whats in the sky that you dont normaly see just like this video? im guesing you have to spend thoudands of dollars for a good camera or a high profetional camera... the one i have records HD small compact video camera.
VOXS2 1 year ago
Guys, don't feed the troll. It could have ended on his first coment, instead it went for several pages.
maksphoto78 1 year ago
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iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@maksphoto78 if u simply search around, u will find numerous physics forums were ppl clearly more intelligent than me or u are debating this topic. To simply believe what we are told without any conclusive evidence would b naive and the very definition of indoctrinated. I do not say geocentrism is right, nor heliocentrism wrong, only that there is not enough evidence to b sure of anything. that is all. All further comments shall b reserved for the amazement of this vid. troll out.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
incredible .....
Thanks for the share.
Projoiner1 1 year ago
Just wondering, in perfect locations can the Milky Way be seen with the naked eye? Or do these powerful cameras allow us to see it?
eujeeves 1 year ago
awesome, its beautiful :)
abradras 1 year ago
awesome , i would like to see that with my own eyes.
tbcslayer 1 year ago
one of the best videos, thank you ESOcast & Best0fScience
tylere 1 year ago
my camera sucked i could get venus but not mars or saturn
13b1cdw8g 1 year ago
Does anyone know what the laser is used for?
anothergazman 1 year ago
@anothergazman
google: "Laser guide star wiki"
omegavalerius 1 year ago
@omegavalerius Ah! Thanks very much. :)
anothergazman 1 year ago
Are we sure they aren't working on a Death Star prototype? ;)
Beautiful work.
BathTubNZ 1 year ago
Amazing!
TheAcousticBassist 1 year ago
2000% Amazing and beautiful
Films4You 1 year ago
I'm completely in awe. So beautiful, reminds me of how irrelevant my troubles are, and how vast our World is.
DelusionalJ 1 year ago
Absolutely astonishing imagery! There is NO spot in the light polluted U.S. where you could accomplish this. Just stunning!
anmoose 1 year ago
Where can I see these photos taken?
Fujimoto420 1 year ago
I will go to a place like this one day and see all the stars in their wondrous splendor.
BlueNile123 1 year ago
Spoted a wierd anomaly. At 8:33, you see 1 star coming out of the center of the galaxy (in the top center of the screen), staying completly still in relation to the camera position. Another one appear at the same exact spot while the first one slowly fade away. A third one appear, and does the same thing as the first, and then a fourth one.
Any idea what caused this? My best bet would be a geostationary satelite.
PS: I see them in 720p, I don't know if you can in lower resolution.
vava54own 1 year ago
@vava54own didn't saw it, but wow, you have a nice eye if you see this XD
bengacris 1 year ago
@bengacris
Awww cmon it's from 8:33 to 8:37.
Start at the center, then gradualy, point appear a bit more left and down everytime.
vava54own 1 year ago
@vava54own HA yeah I see them, certainly meteor, I mean, just dust and little rocks consuming in our atmosphere, it happens everyday, every 10 minutes maybe, or more
bengacris 1 year ago
@bengacris
I don't think you see the same thing I do. The thing I see are STATIC in relation to the camera. They last 1-2 second each (which mean it is much longuer since this is a timelaps)
Can't be meteor, meteor don't last minutes...
vava54own 1 year ago
@vava54own Damn, you do have a good eye, if you hadn't say anything i would've never catch it, but yeah, you're right, four "stars" appear, one after the other and then disappear. Maybe it is a satelite, what else could it be? Now i'm curious, is there any scientist here that could shed some light on this? Yeah, i know we're on YT, but oh well
Relaxe 1 year ago
@Relaxe
If it's a satellite, it's got to be a geosationnary one, else it wouldn't say still.
vava54own 1 year ago
@vava54own
It might be stuck or hot pixels in the camera sensor.
Pulsar89 1 year ago
so you are the videographers
radtwelve 1 year ago
Amazing pics. Where I live, I would be lucky to see the moon and 2 stars. Damn city lights.
TheDarkSagan 1 year ago
The best.
321lawc 1 year ago
intense.
gothatfunk 1 year ago
no link to this pics?
Proleetness 1 year ago
what does the laser beam do ???
TheNewProphetisHere 1 year ago
At 7:52 it' s the Devil lookin at us...
6SpAr6TAN69 1 year ago
These are wonderful photographs, very artistic!
I would love to spend a night at the VLT site.
HiAdrian 1 year ago
The work of these men is really wonderful!!!!!!!!!
SHINEGIRLYV 1 year ago
Amazing images! This winter I'll be using a motor for my tripod to get more and better pictures with tele lenses :)
A great video!
SpeedFreakNO 1 year ago
Simply Awesome!
joelito101 1 year ago
and i would also like anyone to show me actual SCIENTIFIC OR MATHEMATICAL EVIDENCE supporting heliocentricity.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 You, sir, fail at life. Just observe the other planets (perfectly seen this month) and track their movement, they will loop back on themselves - that is because of the different elliptical orbits of each planet.
DragonCuber 1 year ago
@DragonCuber wonderful observation young lad. but that proves nothing for that is true of the Ptolemaic system as well. keep searching.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Ugh, another stubborner, watch: /watch?v=0X1isrPVtlo
DragonCuber 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 the equation of pull of gravity. the earth isnt strong enough to have all the other planets circuling it. it needs a massive object like the sun to hold all the other planets in place.
6SpAr6TAN69 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Phases of Venus.
Go back to first grade. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
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iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
How about the nonzero parallax of nearby stars?
Google for Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel
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iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@machleid this is a valid point, finally, thank u. interesting, stellar parallax was used Against heliocentrism in early modern ages. This was Tycho's main objection to it. Tycho was a geocentrist, as well as many other astronomers then. wiki even says, "the angles involved in calculations are very small and thus difficult to measure". If this is evidence, it is very weak, at best. solar parallax also sounds sketchy Attempting to prove heliocentricity.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
So, even though we can definitively measure this parallax: it actually, really exists, even so, you think geocentrism is viable?
How does the geocentric model account for this parallax?
How does it account for the fact that some objects display "phases" and some do not?
machleid 1 year ago
@machleid see, they are both perfectly viable.. the Ptolemaic system has it all worked out. 'deferent and epicycles' account for parallax. wiki this stuff, its all there. im jus sayin there is absolutely no real conclusive evidence on this stuff man. and my infos comin from a former professor who has a radio show now. wwwantimatterradiocom. he is more than educated on this subject. if u kno how to send large emails i send u the show
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@machleid i see why ppl get defensive bout this subject. it forms the basis of our entire belief system. and challenging that shakes down to the core of it. jus amazing that something with absolutely no evidence is so strongly believed by us all when it Maybe, i say maybe...not b true. my third source of info is ..
Google: exposing the copernican deception
there is more than enough citation for you to begin to question. just question it, thats all. absolutely amazing to ponder dont u think
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@machleid i see why ppl get defensive bout this subject. it forms the basis of our entire belief system. and challenging that shakes down to the core of it. jus amazing that something with absolutely no evidence is so strongly believed by us all when it Maybe, i say maybe...not b true. my third source is ..
google: exposing the copernican deception
more than enough citation in there to at least hav u begin to quesion. simply question it, it is absolutely amazing to ponder
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
I don't seem myself as getting defensive, but I'll do my best not to be simply reactionary.
I'll agree that to a first approximation, a geocentric model is acceptably close to truth to be useful. As is the flat earth model.
However, in both cases, as actual evidence mounts, our initial impressions must be revised. Close examination of the real state of the world conflicts with the geocentric model. Therefore, it's not a model worth keeping around for anything more than...
machleid 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
historical curiosity.
We have better models now. And they will be discarded when still better models are developed.
It's not a conspiracy or dogmatism: it's being willing to cast aside what doesn't work in favor of what does. It's being biased in favor of the truth, even when that truth is humbling.
Oh, and I'm glad you have access to a former professor. I have a degree in Physics (including some astro) myself. Education is not a bad thing.
machleid 1 year ago
@machleid agreed to the last half of that. all in all, science still does not yet hav hard conclusive evidence of either model so all possibilities should b contemplated. good debate. since u were the only one who could actually cite possible evidence, i commend you.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
sigh... you want more evidence? Try this one: stellar aberration, discovered by James Bradley in 1725. Like parallax, it's an observed annual motion of every star. And it is caused ONLY by the orbital velocity of the earth, and does not depend on the velocities of the stars themselves. Good luck explaining that one.
Pulsar89 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
Thank you.
Well, if you don't accept the evidence, it makes perfect sense not to accept the conclusions drawn from it by those who do.
Speaking of evidence, do you have any examples of rigorous experiments that support geocentricity? By "rigorous" I mean hard, verifiable, objective measurements to a high degree of resolution. Like the parallax experiment, for example.
Perhaps something that explains the retrograde motion of mars within the geocentric model?
machleid 1 year ago
@machleid yea Ptolemy's model of an 'equant' explains retrograde of mars, explains it all.. as does copernican model. but no, i dont know anything truly conclusive for either.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
"i dont know anything truly conclusive for either."
I just gave one: stellar aberration. You want yet another one? The CMB dipole.
Pulsar89 1 year ago
@Pulsar89 the cmb dipole apparently just verifies that our solar system is in motion. and ud hav to elaborate on stellar aberration cuz that looks like it says the same thing, that were moving.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
Well hello, that the entire point! We're moving! We move around the sun, the sun moves around the center of the galaxy, and our entire galaxy moves in our local cluster. That's a bit of a contradiction with geocentrism, don't you think?
Pulsar89 1 year ago
@Pulsar89 that sounds like quite an assumption tho. aberration proves movement, whether it is movement of Earth or movement of other stars/galaxies that should still b in question.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
sigh... I already told you that the movement does not come from the stars, but from the earth. Take a binary star system. Both stars move around each other, so each a different velocity relative to us. Yet both will have exactly the same aberration. The only explanation is the movement of the earth. That is a mathematically and physically proven fact, not an assumption!
Pulsar89 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
Well, there you go.
If that answer satisfies you, and you find the current consensus lacking in some way, not much more I can say.
machleid 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 eeehh, do you though about images of other solar system WHERE WE SEE PLANETS REVOLVING AROUND THERE SUN! And do you know gravity? Why would not Earth, a small rocky planet not orbiting around a FUCKING MASSIVE BALL OF GAS? And according to other solar system where WE SEE planet orbiting around there sun, why does Earth would not do the same thing? So your arguments are falling trought the hole of failed creationist arguments...
bengacris 1 year ago
It is soooo beautiful. Astronomy fascinates me. I would very much like to visit the VLA someday.
Sanngot 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
Are you seriously proposing geocentricity?
The actual evidence of even casual observation is perfectly consistent with heliocentircity: retrograde planetary motion, the pole star, eclipse timing on other moons and planets, partially v.s. fully illuminated planets and moons, etc.
How would your proposed geocentric model explain these observations, none of which require NASA?
machleid 1 year ago
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explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Astrologers? Really? Astrologers!?! That's the kind of rebuttal I'd expect out of someone who believes cameras steal your soul.
If you honestly can't see the fundamental flaw in your argument, you're either a fool, a troll, or willfully ignorant.
Jagent 1 year ago
@Jagent u act like astrologers cant be extremely intelligent ppl. i just lean towards the belief of every single ancient culture who had the intelligence to build structures that modern man has absolutely no clue how they even built them. I question all beliefs, no need for all yall to get defensive and personal bout it
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Not what I said. I was talking about how you can go outside and test heliocentrism yourself, how it has been tested and survived for hundreds of years. And then you come back and use people who make a living scamming others out of their money with their "magik" predictive powers as proof that the earth is the center of the universe.
I say again, if you honestly can't see the fundamental flaw in your argument, you're either a fool, a troll, or willfully ignorant.
Jagent 1 year ago
@Jagent i dont doubt there are scammers. all im doin is questioning since i hav found out other theories i hav been taught are false.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Ok, let me get this right. You are countering what the world has believed for centuries by citing what a group of scam artists use to perpetrate their scam? I would think you'd question them as well.
And, again, you don't have to take anyone word for it. Just go outside, with a $30 telescope, and test both systems to your heart's content.
Jagent 1 year ago
@Jagent not at all, forget the astrologers, scammin as some of them surely are. my point is that most, mayb all ancient civilizations believed in geocentrism, and since they were apparently much more intelligent that current humans, i question it, that is all. nevertheless, Amazing Vid uploader
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 " they were apparently much more intelligent that current humans" I dont see where they were much more intelligent....
bengacris 1 year ago
@bengacris i suggest watching Graham Hancocks Quest for Lost Civilization. the ancients were buildin structures that science still hasnt an explanation of how they built them so precisely aligned with the stars and planets.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Oh god, you were talking about the pyramids... That's not really all that impressive when you think about it. They had literally decades to build those things, and they were building them for a living god. I'd try hard to get the alignment correct too.
Also, consider this. If modern humanity is so much dumber, why does cutting edge tech become outdated literally every two years? Why did we use bows and arrows for centuries?
Jagent 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 I don't accept the idea that ancient civilizations were more intelligent, nor do I accept that science has no explanation for... what did they do that is unexplainable again? I hope you're not referring to the pyramids...
Besides, we are neither more intelligent or less. Since we have built on the achievements of those that came before us, we are more advanced, but the few thousand years that have passed have not been sufficient to allow much mutation in our species.
Jagent 1 year ago
Look at those telescopes...hogging all the incoming light from the rest of the universe. Disgusting!
psb1964 1 year ago
it is interesting to note that there is absolutely no evidence (other than NASA, which is a corporately run govt agency so cannot b trusted) that the Earth revolves around the Sun. Just as the majority of our public education was completely bogus, so might have been heliocentric model of our solar system.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 lol
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1
I understand not trusting our government about SOME things...but about the Sun? Wtf? why would they lie about that, what the hell could they gain about that?
GigoraTheInfinate 1 year ago 2
@iAMr3VOLution1
You really need to stop smoking that stuff!
MsWanderer1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Yeah, because Copernicus worked for NASA right? Get out of here with that shit you fucking troll.
JonO387 1 year ago 2
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@JonO387 explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Wow. Seriously? So the feds control all the various independently owned and operated amateur observatories across the world?
Watch out! They even control the sky! They have to, because when I take my $30 telescope and look at my scientifically generated heliocentric charts and try to find the planets, *gasp* they are exactly where they're supposed to be!
I agree that corps have too much influence in American politics, but don't go around dissing heliocentrism. you look foolish
Jagent 1 year ago 2
@Jagent explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 What have you been smoking ? Honestly i think you ought to go to a religious or conspiracy theory channel.
8824snipe 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 Awesome!! Nice to meet you - I've never met a flat earther/geocentric before. U sound like the real deal too - Heliocentric theory - only a theory,right? lol. Gotta love it. Take care and be careful not to let the tinfoil helmet slip... :-)
jeebersjumpincryst 1 year ago
@jeebersjumpincryst explain this... Astrologers, while they may not believe in geocentrism as a principle, still employ the geocentric model in their calculations source: wikipedia
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 do you really think about things before you say them?
kiddhitta 1 year ago
@iAMr3VOLution1 NASA, RUSSIA, EUROPE. Fucking bugged mindless asshole
bengacris 1 year ago
Found the name of the guy! No wonder why I could understand it... his name is Gerhard Hüdepohl, if anybody is interested.
Other credit:
Music:John Dyson (from the albums "Darklight" and "Moonwind").
Footage and photos: ESO, Yuri Beletsky, Stéphane Guisard (eso(dot)org/~sguisard), Gerhard Hüdepohl (atacamaphoto(dot)com) and José Francisco Salgado.
vava54own 1 year ago 14
What is the Laser used for ? please
8824snipe 1 year ago
@8824snipe
Guidance system, pretty sure about that.
vava54own 1 year ago
@vava54own Thanks, Any idea how it works ?
8824snipe 1 year ago
@8824snipe Measuring atmospheric distortion to use to compensate by shaping the mirror I believe...
jgoemat 1 year ago 2
@jgoemat Thanks, that sounds logical but i thought that the laser had to reflect back off something so that distortion could be measured and corrected for. Are they useing the reflectors left behind on the moon ?
8824snipe 1 year ago
@8824snipe There's a page on the Keck observatory's site that explains it. There's a layer in the upper mesosphere rich in sodium atoms deposited by meteorites. The laser is tuned to the right wavelength to excite these sodium atoms. The brightness of the artificial guide star varies depending on the density, but this is pretty stable and can be used to measure the rapid variations due to atmospheric turbulence below the layer.
jgoemat 1 year ago
@jgoemat Thanks a lot for a very informative answer. Enjoy your Stargazing. Peace
8824snipe 1 year ago
What is the name of the guy at 4:30, I can't understand what Dr. J say...
OR
Tell me where I can download his epic photos so I can make them my wallpaper.
vava54own 1 year ago
This goes right to my favorite list.
vava54own 1 year ago
In my opinion, that is the coolest job in the world.
Jenna424 1 year ago
awe
godfree2canada 1 year ago
Holy shit! Those views are f*ckin beautiful!
MattKCW 1 year ago
@MattKCW lies lialis LIES
SuicideShaun 1 year ago
@blueghist Google "ESO", and it will take you to the site, and there are many photos there.
dannukesem 1 year ago
I want to live there so bad...
christmasdnc 1 year ago
I cannot get enough of this stuff. Life sciences are my passion and job but Cosmology is the next frontier, now that we have solved many of the questions regarding life and it's processes. I hope the youth of today appreciate the technology that exists now to be able to witness such wonders. Thanks for sharing. As voyagervsbor said, Thunderf00t and AndomedasWake are also great Cosmological YTers to check out.
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
Anybody happen to know what the shutters on the side of the dome are for??
Woad25 1 year ago
You know you're an astronomy geek when you can identify many objects in this video. Rho Ophiuchi cloud complex, Small and Large Magellanic Clouds, California Nebula, the Pleiades, the Orion.
maksphoto78 1 year ago
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I've watched this 3 times already,,,
dannukesem 1 year ago
Truely enriching our human culture.
XmarkedSpot 1 year ago
I really do want to go there one day and stay up all night just looking at the amazing views for real.
HardstyleMatt 1 year ago
how does this channel only have 30k subs?
Rajkozuluf 1 year ago 16
@Rajkozuluf
People don't know where/how to find these channels. No, rather they don't know they exist. I didn't- I only came across this channel and others like Ffreethinker rather recently.
All of Youtube's most subscribed that share the passion for proper education and knowledge like you, me and many many others do should advertise these damn channels. Most 12 and 13 year olds could do with some learning, it'll be voluntary learning too, no doubt, once they find out science is interesting.
Territomauvais 1 year ago
@Territomauvais Can you link me to some channels like this one? I'm subbed to 6-7 but I'd like to know more. :P
Movies96B 1 year ago
@Movies96B Thunderf00t does video's on the galaxy, and you could try AndromedasWake
voyagervsbor 1 year ago
@Movies96B
Here are a few popular ones...
AndromedasWake, cdk007, Evid3nc3, Don Exodus22, AgentXPQ, FFreeThinker, FFreeThinker2, JaguarJ0nes, ZOMGitsCriss, Thunderf00t, ScienceMagazine, Richarddawkinsdotnet, Potholer54, Potholer54debunks, Ozmoroid, WhyEvolutionisTrue, SpaceRip, LiberalViewer, Patcondell...and many many more to check out. Plenty of those channels suit the needs of just about everyone with an open mind :p. These people need more popularity imo, and deserve to lead Youtube. Haha.
Territomauvais 1 year ago
@Rajkozuluf People are too caught up in entertainment, politics, etc.
RaynorX 1 year ago
Absolutely fantastic!! Thanks for sharing :)
OriMeissa 1 year ago
As an amateur photographer myself this makes me insanely jealous!
FordPrefect23 1 year ago
awe inspiring results, it must be really dark and clear there during the nights!
phlexonance 1 year ago
@phlexonance
its quite a high mountain in one of the dryest deserts on the planet. no clouds, no nearby civilisation.
kurtilein3 1 year ago
WOW. Love it!!!! Thanks for uploading and sharing it with us!
luckystrke 1 year ago
Hey, can I escape the charges to the Atacama desert and hang out with the astronomers for a while? I would love to live in the atmosphere of the night, spectacular starry sky, high-tech instruments and academics.
teemuruskeepaa 1 year ago
omg, so amazing, I just pee'd my pants.
jnthnbush 1 year ago
what are exo planets?
MikaelDryden 1 year ago
@MikaelDryden Planets in solar systems other than our own. :)
Vehementi 1 year ago
@Vehementi possibly inhabitable?
MikaelDryden 1 year ago
@MikaelDryden
There are exoplanets and Earth-like exoplanets. However, just because an exoplanet isn't Earth-like doesn't mean it can't support life.
There's no other planet like Earth in our solar system, but I'd bet money that we'll find evidence life (past or present) somewhere else in our own solar system.
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
@TheRationalizer my home planet is earthlike
000whiterabbit 1 year ago
@TheRationalizer thanks dude :)
MikaelDryden 1 year ago
Europe rules !
Science !
atheistkyo 1 year ago
i would like to see all the stars and planets as there in the atacama desert, it's so beautiful
VronVieh 1 year ago
Just awesome!
Thanks for your efforts.
bobster451 1 year ago
What beauty and awe inspiring grandeur of what is there in front of us, a reality more moving than any man made story.
huyked 1 year ago 2
absolutely lovely :)
moridin222 1 year ago