I like the concept of this experiment. The explanation however is, im sad to say, false. You cant understand the physics without the concept of a standing wave. there is no "entrance" or "exit-point", only areas with high or low energy. These do not necessarily lign up in your chocolate bits. I suggest you redo this one, because i love the essence of showing that physics do concern our everyday life.
Doing this for a project in school on physics. Just wondering , do you actually need 36 Ghz microwave? I've seen others that do it with any frequency microwave. They just multiply the wavelength with the frequency. Does the frequency 36 have anything to do with it ? As a microwave always uses light ( EMR ) to heat things, the frequency used shouldn't matter not ?
I've seen this done on NGC channel with cheese , maybe a bit easier because of the fact that it's easlier spread out then chocolate , anyway i'm gonna give this a try , thanks!
QUESTION: If time itself slows (relatively) the closer we get to the speed of light & light travels at 186,000 Miles Per "Second", how does this affect the distance traveled in relation to time relative to an Observer vs. Someone traveling at or close to the speed of light? In others words, will the time it takes to travel 186K miles be different relative to the observer & person traveling the speed of light???
Because per unit of distance, less time passes for the object which is going near the speed of light, for the object it will be as if he were travelling much faster than the speed of light.
That may be so, but the frequency it has determines that it is a microwave. Any other frequency would make for a diffrent color of light. And being able to melt chocolate with the waves means the waves are microwaves.
@kurpochelo By a diffrent color I mean a diffrent frequency, humans can't see it but its just another color of light. We can't hear ultrasone soundwaves but they are still soundwaves.
This device being a microwave obviously means it uses microwaves. And microwaves are a certain frequency. If it were a diffrent frequency it wouldn't be a microwave...
5.894X10-7m = 589.4 nm, when you want to go from m to nm you have to multiply by a possitif numbre en 1 nm = 1X10-9m so you have to multiply by10^9: 5.894X10-7m X 1X10^9 = 589.4 nm
this was the speed and wavelength of invisible light. can you build
an arrangement with two rotating clockwheels like it has been done before (m.i.t. physics) to calculate the speed of a bullet----------------------->>>>>??????
if YOURE handling the food, and YOURE gonna eat the food, THEN WHY DO YOU WEAR SAFETY GLOVES???? Are you grossed out by yourself? Do you have the cutties??
Of course gravity affects light. Ever think carefully about what a black hole is? The gravitational force is so great that it bends light. That's why they call it a "black" hole. No light is ever visible in the areas where we find them.
its not so much gravity accelerating the photons to itself like the earth does to us....its actually mostly the fact the the gravity is so strong at a black hole that space become curved..
I was a little surprised that it would work in a standard microwave, though, because I was given to understand that microwaves enter the chamber at an angle and bounce around until they encounter something that absorbs them, creating a pattern of hot spots. Modern microwaves, too, are designed to cause the hotspots to shift around for more regular heating. Of course, if that microwave came with your apartment, "modern" may not apply. ;)
Yeah, it's not perfect at all, and I did have one more trial that failed (my chocolate bar exploded in the microwave... messy.. :P ) but it works, if you put the chocolate in a single-file row. It's not a perfect number, but it's good enough for a home experiment :)
Hey mooey, I just wanted you to know (in case you didn't already) that the Tank Vodcast has picked up on your experiment (this one). The user is riedsa and the episode is "The TANK Vodcast Feb. 29. 2008 - Who is James Randi?" So congratulations on the plug and keep up the great work.
I must try that. Nice demonstration to show my nephews and Niece. I always wanted to build a machine to measure the light speed the old fashioned way. With a light source a cogwheel and a mirror.
Yeah, the Fizeau-Foucault experiment is awesome, but.. well.. the distances need to be set in km (otherwise it's not really measurable), so.. I am not sure how that could be done at home. But it's great to read about it, it's a really clever experiment.
Amazing! I know the Hershey Kisses were all you had, but I'd bet that with a regular chocolate bar you'd get much better results. Basically, your minimum uncertainty was half the distance between the points of the chocolates, so your answer was WELL within that range of uncertainty!
The graph shows teh "path" of the wave, not its energy; where it touches the "normal" is the same energy as its peaks in those graphs -- it simply and quite realistically LOOKS like a wave, so wherever it touched the chocolate, it's supposed to be the "Normal" line ('zero' y-axis), but again - that shows *location* not energy.
Dear mooeypoo, I seriously suggest rethink the experiment in terms of the more or less complicated 3-dimensional standing-wave pattern that is formed inside the oven. The field oscillates everywhere with the 2.45 GHz frequency, but the amplitude varies (largest at the momentary troughs and crests, zero at the nodes). Remarkably, in certain directions you get the ~12 cm wavelength corresponding to a plane wave (thinking in terms of a 3D Fourier decomposition to plane waves may help).
Now consider one wavelength of the sinusoidal wave that expresses the momentary electric field amplitude as a function of a space coordinate (say x). It contains one crest and one trough and a node in-between. In case of a standing wave, the field at the node is always zero, whereas at the trough and crest the field continuously oscillates as a function of time (at 2.45 GHz). Where the amplitude of oscillation is largest, there is most energy avaibale to be absorbed by the molecules in the food.
At the nodes, there is no oscillating electric field to heat the molecules. The locations of the trough and the crest are half a wavelength (~6 cm) apart.
btw... to check the frequency I'd have to rely on knowing the speed of light in advance, which supposedly i didn't in this experiment, so it was an "either or" experiment. But the reversed can be done to measure frequency when knowing speed -- the equation c=f*wavelength is valid either way :)
I like the concept of this experiment. The explanation however is, im sad to say, false. You cant understand the physics without the concept of a standing wave. there is no "entrance" or "exit-point", only areas with high or low energy. These do not necessarily lign up in your chocolate bits. I suggest you redo this one, because i love the essence of showing that physics do concern our everyday life.
kirkelicious 2 days ago
Doing this for a project in school on physics. Just wondering , do you actually need 36 Ghz microwave? I've seen others that do it with any frequency microwave. They just multiply the wavelength with the frequency. Does the frequency 36 have anything to do with it ? As a microwave always uses light ( EMR ) to heat things, the frequency used shouldn't matter not ?
thethief123456 2 weeks ago
Awesome!!!
Erik24R 3 weeks ago
Are you Ellen´s little sister? :-(
besorgesmir 3 weeks ago
@besorgesmir ?
mooeypoo 3 weeks ago
i love you, this is part of our experiment and i didn't even rlly understand it until you explained it :)
0xVx0 3 weeks ago
I love your shirt!!! I am glad I am not the only one who loves Physics. <3 This made my morning.
DevilDocGil 2 months ago
I've seen this done on NGC channel with cheese , maybe a bit easier because of the fact that it's easlier spread out then chocolate , anyway i'm gonna give this a try , thanks!
thethief123456 3 months ago
Im sorry, can I do this with something else but chocolate, i cannot be trusted with a plate full of chocolate...
Lili0000007 6 months ago
QUESTION: If time itself slows (relatively) the closer we get to the speed of light & light travels at 186,000 Miles Per "Second", how does this affect the distance traveled in relation to time relative to an Observer vs. Someone traveling at or close to the speed of light? In others words, will the time it takes to travel 186K miles be different relative to the observer & person traveling the speed of light???
BachRiff 7 months ago
@BachRiff
Because per unit of distance, less time passes for the object which is going near the speed of light, for the object it will be as if he were travelling much faster than the speed of light.
Michel0555 3 weeks ago
M'am, you are AMAZING. Thank you, this explained a lot!
moranginka 9 months ago
meg griffin
fyocouchnickel 10 months ago
wow ! thant great
E3ZOOBEY 11 months ago
speed of light is trivial, then what is the speed of dark?
GuitarShred07 11 months ago
@GuitarShred07 absence of light = dark matter
Oregu7 10 months ago
@GuitarShred07 I like the way you think
QueenofAntarctica 5 months ago
@GuitarShred07
Dark is the absence of light, it is in fact nothingness. Thus, it has no speed.
In the same way, coldness does not exist, it is the absence of heat.
When people say something feels cold it actually means they are losing body warmth to the object they touch.
Michel0555 3 weeks ago
wat would be the variables in this experiment such as independent, control, dependent etc. PLZ ANSWER I NEED TO KNOW THIS D= TY LOVE YOUR VID!
Darkbreath1 1 year ago
Scientist discovered the speed of light...Chuck Norris discovered the speed of darkness.
Rofuls 1 year ago 2
The only problem is that this is not chocolate, real chocolate doesn't melt in a microwave oven cause it is calculated to excite water molecules.
ncc1707a 1 year ago
But, you trusted the microwave manufacturers for the frequency being 2.45 GHz.
kurpochelo 1 year ago
@kurpochelo Exactly, why should we trust the frequency of the microwave to be accurate???
savemyplaylist 1 year ago
@kurpochelo
That may be so, but the frequency it has determines that it is a microwave. Any other frequency would make for a diffrent color of light. And being able to melt chocolate with the waves means the waves are microwaves.
Michel0555 3 weeks ago
@Michel0555 1) Microwaves are invisible, so saying different color of light is nonsesne.
2) Infrared light would melt chocolate as well.
3) Your comment is irrelevant.
kurpochelo 1 week ago
@kurpochelo By a diffrent color I mean a diffrent frequency, humans can't see it but its just another color of light. We can't hear ultrasone soundwaves but they are still soundwaves.
This device being a microwave obviously means it uses microwaves. And microwaves are a certain frequency. If it were a diffrent frequency it wouldn't be a microwave...
Michel0555 6 days ago
Thanks a lot, I had to make a project about a physics experiment and I had no idea what to write about. Thanks a lot!!! Keep up the good job
brunetzica93 1 year ago
I only have one bar of chocolate, so how long should i cook it for perfect measurement? I have a 5 year old microwave, if that matters.
FersotJ 1 year ago
im doing this as a science project
hope thats okay
im only 10 so :) yea
thanks
warren91208 2 years ago
hello,
i like to know a wavelight is given as 5.894X10-7m , so how many nanometers is that?
We know 1nm = 1x10-9 m
please let me know which equation to use for conversion
Thanks
RaqseeBismil 2 years ago
5.894X10-7m = 589.4 nm, when you want to go from m to nm you have to multiply by a possitif numbre en 1 nm = 1X10-9m so you have to multiply by10^9: 5.894X10-7m X 1X10^9 = 589.4 nm
jonasjacob258 1 year ago
@RaqseeBismil
If the wavelength is 5,89 x 10^-7 then that is 589 nanometers
Michel0555 6 days ago
this was the speed and wavelength of invisible light. can you build
an arrangement with two rotating clockwheels like it has been done before (m.i.t. physics) to calculate the speed of a bullet----------------------->>>>>??????
zdrastvutye 2 years ago
Then get a long chocolate bar before you do the video....
PA28140 2 years ago
if YOURE handling the food, and YOURE gonna eat the food, THEN WHY DO YOU WEAR SAFETY GLOVES???? Are you grossed out by yourself? Do you have the cutties??
juanpjp27 2 years ago
lol she put them on incase she touches the melted choc and so that she doesnt mess her hand...:D
MrYekia 2 years ago
yes, it's messy. Plus, you'd be surprised how hot and sticky chocolate gets after being heated.
That's not a very nice combination for one's skin.
smarterthanthat 2 years ago
Calm down.
TadMoody 2 years ago
juanpjp27, she's a crazy. she's got lesbian ocd 'n shit. lol.
gregjockca1001 2 years ago
k light is in the middle of the electro megnetic scale and the faster the frequency the shorter the wavelength and visversa.
rubikscuber1995 2 years ago
i dont get it
tiio121 3 years ago
are u going to finish those?
martinez199327 3 years ago 11
So ok the thinner/shorter cycle of the peak to peak.. the faster the light.?
FilmPA 3 years ago
No, it's the other way around.
As an analogy, compare the distance between peaks to the distance a car travels in a set amount of time. A shorter distance means a lower speed.
daichi2097 3 years ago
Awesome! Please make more science videos!
PlanetAmazing 3 years ago 6
God I am stupid. I did not understand this at all.
mullenjam 3 years ago
If speed is energy can it be amplified?
Does gravity effect the speed of light?
What about radiation and magnetic fields, would this create refraction?
Can light ever be constant? and how?
KH198 3 years ago
gravity affects light, and by proxy the speed of light.
futureblues26 3 years ago
Of course gravity affects light. Ever think carefully about what a black hole is? The gravitational force is so great that it bends light. That's why they call it a "black" hole. No light is ever visible in the areas where we find them.
Isiyac 2 years ago
incorrect..mostly
its not so much gravity accelerating the photons to itself like the earth does to us....its actually mostly the fact the the gravity is so strong at a black hole that space become curved..
basically...a straight line becomes a curved line
spike0804 2 years ago
Isn't the speed of light in a vacuum an average?
I heard when scientists were calculating it they shot 2 lazers down the legs of an vacuum "L" and reflected it back into polarized glass.
Their results were inconsistent so they averaged them.
Others theorize that this was because the speed of light doesn't account for the ambient Zeropoint Energyfield.
They go on to say that you can convert it into useable energy!
Fight Terrorism, DEVELOP Zeropoint Energy and RELEASE THE TESLA PATENTS!
ParapaDrifter 3 years ago
your goning to have your brain rot out watching that microwave so closely
surgekid06 3 years ago
"your goning to have your brain rot out watching that microwave so closely"
Lulz
PlanetAmazing 3 years ago
Best experiment ever.
I was a little surprised that it would work in a standard microwave, though, because I was given to understand that microwaves enter the chamber at an angle and bounce around until they encounter something that absorbs them, creating a pattern of hot spots. Modern microwaves, too, are designed to cause the hotspots to shift around for more regular heating. Of course, if that microwave came with your apartment, "modern" may not apply. ;)
Thanks for the sciente. :)
ReeseTora 3 years ago
Yeah, it's not perfect at all, and I did have one more trial that failed (my chocolate bar exploded in the microwave... messy.. :P ) but it works, if you put the chocolate in a single-file row. It's not a perfect number, but it's good enough for a home experiment :)
smarterthanthat 3 years ago
you sound a little bit like martha stewart
jazzmaniac00 3 years ago
in the microwaves there are nodes and antinodes. the plate rotates in the hope that every area travels through the antinodes.
onlyguitar1001 3 years ago
i like your way of description
fatzhe 3 years ago
Since microwaves are part of light energy, why does it heat food unevenly in a wave? Visible light doesn't appear as ripples, after all.
khoavuong 3 years ago
no eating your experiments!
999madcows 3 years ago
Hey mooey, I just wanted you to know (in case you didn't already) that the Tank Vodcast has picked up on your experiment (this one). The user is riedsa and the episode is "The TANK Vodcast Feb. 29. 2008 - Who is James Randi?" So congratulations on the plug and keep up the great work.
paleosmoker 3 years ago
I must try that. Nice demonstration to show my nephews and Niece. I always wanted to build a machine to measure the light speed the old fashioned way. With a light source a cogwheel and a mirror.
freethinkerbell 3 years ago
Yeah, the Fizeau-Foucault experiment is awesome, but.. well.. the distances need to be set in km (otherwise it's not really measurable), so.. I am not sure how that could be done at home. But it's great to read about it, it's a really clever experiment.
smarterthanthat 3 years ago
CLAP!!!
bLaSsSlAyEr 3 years ago
That was fascinating! Good job Moo!
jergsden 3 years ago
Wow, physics for the rest of us. I understand the whole calculation now because of the way you described it. Thanks.
djben1977 3 years ago
Good stuff poo. .....er that sounds wrong...
GOAQ 3 years ago
Fantastic stuff as always, Moo! Keep up the great work!
Syncubus 3 years ago
Pretty neat.
AnArticulateTroll 3 years ago
Nicely done... ★★★★★
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Katalyzt 3 years ago
Amazing! I know the Hershey Kisses were all you had, but I'd bet that with a regular chocolate bar you'd get much better results. Basically, your minimum uncertainty was half the distance between the points of the chocolates, so your answer was WELL within that range of uncertainty!
shanedk 3 years ago
Nice T-shirt! I use bikes to teach physics concepts, but it's hard to get one going to to the speed of light!
HowardFair 3 years ago
That was great! Now I know who I want to be my physics prof!
gnorville 3 years ago
Remember I said "past experiments"? Apparantly hot chocolate (and relatively cold one too) melts. On your hands... quite noticeably.
mooeypoo 3 years ago
The graph shows teh "path" of the wave, not its energy; where it touches the "normal" is the same energy as its peaks in those graphs -- it simply and quite realistically LOOKS like a wave, so wherever it touched the chocolate, it's supposed to be the "Normal" line ('zero' y-axis), but again - that shows *location* not energy.
mooeypoo 3 years ago
Dear mooeypoo, I seriously suggest rethink the experiment in terms of the more or less complicated 3-dimensional standing-wave pattern that is formed inside the oven. The field oscillates everywhere with the 2.45 GHz frequency, but the amplitude varies (largest at the momentary troughs and crests, zero at the nodes). Remarkably, in certain directions you get the ~12 cm wavelength corresponding to a plane wave (thinking in terms of a 3D Fourier decomposition to plane waves may help).
kirvesvarsi 3 years ago
Now consider one wavelength of the sinusoidal wave that expresses the momentary electric field amplitude as a function of a space coordinate (say x). It contains one crest and one trough and a node in-between. In case of a standing wave, the field at the node is always zero, whereas at the trough and crest the field continuously oscillates as a function of time (at 2.45 GHz). Where the amplitude of oscillation is largest, there is most energy avaibale to be absorbed by the molecules in the food.
kirvesvarsi 3 years ago
At the nodes, there is no oscillating electric field to heat the molecules. The locations of the trough and the crest are half a wavelength (~6 cm) apart.
Um.. Happy learning;)
kirvesvarsi 3 years ago
/me stands applauding
AVoiceFromGermany 3 years ago
Absolutely brilliant.
theinquisitor 3 years ago
Very well done. I mean it. As a teacher of science (in a show for schools)I see you have a talent for teaching and reaching out. 5 Stars
riedsa 3 years ago
MATH IS FUN! i am going to get my degree in microbiology, but i love math, so i might go back for something fun like physics, W/O THE PRESSURE! ;).
johnmicstring 3 years ago
Mhh. This is definitely the tastiest experiment I've seen since calculating the refractive index of red wine ;-)
Killersepp 3 years ago
Mhh. This is definitely the tasiest experiment I've seen since calculating the refractive index of red wine ;-)
Killersepp 3 years ago
awesome!!! You Rock, woman!!!
DblOSmith 3 years ago
Very cool!
TheBadAstronomer 3 years ago
I want more!!! great vid!
KT45 3 years ago
Nice, fun, educating, and delicious.
julounin 3 years ago
I wish I had time for more physics. Thanks for the experiment. Hopefully I remember this one when my daughter gets older.
squitmaa 3 years ago
Physics is delicious!
Prepoceros 3 years ago 5
Yeh, and callory-filled.. I had 3 failed experiments I had to.. uhm... "clean"...
:P
mooeypoo 3 years ago 2
That was Cool! I love your channel!
msginca 3 years ago 2
That was cool! I love your channel!
msginca 3 years ago 2
Very good video. It is more fun then the lectures and *way better* then debunking godmos.
stony4321 3 years ago 2
Great t-shirt!
Of course you cheated a little by using the frequency from the manual rather than measuring it. ;-)
CousinoMacul 3 years ago 2
pff, petty.
:P
btw... to check the frequency I'd have to rely on knowing the speed of light in advance, which supposedly i didn't in this experiment, so it was an "either or" experiment. But the reversed can be done to measure frequency when knowing speed -- the equation c=f*wavelength is valid either way :)
Good point though ;)
mooeypoo 3 years ago