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  • Queenheat,where did the light came from in genesis chapter 1 verse 2?and GOD said let there be light!since the sun was created by the fourth day.can u answer that.try.

  • Light= Understanding ... Darkness= ignorance ... You can use Truth and fiction.

    Type in hermandustyrhodes for my Youtube videos. If you type in Herman Dusty Rhodes for Facebook, you can view my album with 61 illustrations and explanations. Ignorance is a choice so don't be ignorant.

  • Let there be Light! Light is a Boson in the Standard Model of the atom, the force carrier for the Electromagnetic Force. When did God make the other Intermediate Vector Bosons?

  • @gregrutz Tuesday.

  • Every single thing he said can be easily refuted!

    People like this just dissect the bible to try and find something wrong with it.

  • @LeinadONyt Everything creotards believe was debunked 100 years ago.

  • You show yourself ignorant in the first day of Genesis saying God did not yet create the Sun. Let there be light and the following statement pointed to the creation of the Sun on the first day, and when Moses wrote about the stars being created on the fourth day, he threw in the Sun to sum it up. But in your rush to disprove your Maker you will twist anything He says through Moses or the other 66 authors of the holy Book won't you. Your video is crap. Thats just the first of your errors.

  • @MegaSage007 You are making things up. Genesis does not say anywhere that the sun was made on the first day. You are twisting the text, read verse 16.

  • @MegaSage007 I just wan't to suggust that God doesn't need a sun or star to make light. :) I think God was perfectly capable of producing light without a phisical cause. On day 4 when God did create the sun, he made light come from it.

  • Some creatards are now claiming that animals were vegetarians before the Imaginary Flood, Genesis 1,  verse 30, but fossilized carnivores sometimes still have prey inside their stomach.

  • @InternetDarkLord According to the bible it was after sin that amimals started to kill and eat meat. Thousands of years later the flood quickly buried many animals, creating many of the fossils we find today. Also Genesis 1 verse 30 says nothing about the flood.

  • @LeinadONyt I never said that refers to a flood, cridiots like Spencer Benedict 2nd insist that all life was vegetarian before the flood, then God changed His mind.

    If all life had been vegetarian before the flood, nothing would have fossilized with prey in the stomach.

    Of course, the Imaginary Flood never happened.

  • @InternetDarkLord Your right, at least that IF all life had been vegetarian before the flood, nothing would have fossilized with prey in the stomach.

    BUT, the bible clearly says that it was AFTER SIN that amimals (and humans) started to kill and eat eachother. I see that yes, in Gen 1:30, God gave every green plant to animals and humans, but sin changed all that.

    I don't know who Spencer Benedict 2nd is, but he's mixed up.

    WHY do you think the flood is so ridiculous?

  • @LeinadONyt First of all, the Bible says nothing about meat until after the flood, Genesis Chapter 9. There is no evidence of a global flood in the first place. Spencer Benedict 2 is severely paranoid, but you will meet him soon enough on youtube. 

  • @InternetDarkLord First, the bible says that people killed animals. (Cain in Chpt. 4)(and of course they needed clothes) So if people killed animals it is likely that animals killed animals (anyway that's the way it is today so why assume otherwise)

    There is lots of evedince of the flood:

    Fossils of animals fighting eachother (had to be burried quickly

    Not enough erosion in rock layers.

    Bent rock layers (just layed down) (if they were hard they would break)

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  • @LeinadONyt Wrong1 Rapid fossilization does not require a global flood, even a local one would do.

    There is massive erosion in very old rock. look at the Appalachians versus the Andes, why is one vastly more eroded?

    Rock layers bend over vast time, soft layers would just run together.

    Are you aware many types of sedimentary rock are not created by water? Ditto volcanic rock? or exposed metamorphic layers? How did a flood create them?

  • @InternetDarkLord Ok...

    Ahh... but think of all the millions of years of erosion the canyons and mountains should have epirienced, but havn't.  This is big. How can you get around it?

    Really? They would have to be prety hot. Almost like the mantle broke open and shifted all the continents...

    I'm not talking about sedimentary rock! I'm wondering how thousands of years of rock layers can be cut through by a single year of vertical stone. Unless they were really layed down at the same time

  • @LeinadONyt Features like the Andes and Appalachians are different ages, so they eroded differing amounts. And they do show millions of years of erosion, like the vast Grand Canyon or the rolling Appalachians.

    Sedimentary rock hotter than atom bombs would vaporize any flood, plus the ark and all life on earth.

    WHERE is there thousand s of years of rock cut by one stone, and why does that prove ONE GLOBAL flood?

  • @LeinadONyt Noah's Flood can be disproven by:coral reef layering, bryozoan reef stratification, dendrochronology, fossil indexes, geomagnetism, Lichenometry, Milankovitch Cycles, Mitochondrial DNA, Obsidian hydration analysis, ocean sediment cores, desert varnish layers, polar ice sheet cores, pollen/spore analysis, radiometric dating, thermoluminescence, varves, written records in Egypt or Sumer, Y-chromosome DNA....want more?

  • @InternetDarkLord (continued) Also...

    Fossils burried verdicly through many rock layers (like trees and nautiliods) "polystrate fossils."

    Parts of rock layers comming up through many other rock layers. (like little volcanoes, suggesting that the layers underneath were like wet sement)

    Plateaus, if formed slowly durring millions of years, would have eroded completely.

    Some rock layers layers streatch extreamely long distances (accross oceans) (suggests a catastophic event in the past)

  • @LeinadONyt Watch Polystrate Trees debunked on Potholer54debunks.

    I have seen similar "Volcano-like" formations form in Denali, 100s of miles inland, it does not take any flood. (Again, why a global one?)

    Plateaus and mountains in places like the Himalayas are rising today, what are you talking about?

    Long distances don't prove one big flood, the oceans have changed position over eons.

  • @InternetDarkLord It is completely impossible for many strata to form in one flood, because of the heat released by its formation. Limestone releases 11,290 joules per gram, forming one thick layer so fast would boil away the flood instead.

  • @InternetDarkLord Limestone releases 11,290 joules per gram when it hardens, so if massive layers formed in one big flood, the sea would boil away.

  • @InternetDarkLord Oh, and on the rapidly burried animals, it could not be just a regular food. (I think the animals would stop fighting to stop from being drowned) It would have to be a quick,strong,large title wave.

    lol thats why it needs to be globle,and catastrophic! to reach 100s of miles inland! And these "vertical rock layer like things" CANNOT be formed over long periods of time. This means that the thousands of rock layers they go through must have ALL ben layed down at the SAME TIME!

  • @LeinadONyt Sudden fossilization does not require ONE GLOBAL flood a thousand local floods would. Or disasters like an avalanche.

    I already pointed out rock layers cannot form in a short period. The Bahamas Limestone is MILES thick, that 11,290 joules per gram of energy would dwarf all the atomic bombs on earth! It can ONLY form over vast periods!

  • @InternetDarkLord Of course they can. In the Mt Saint Helens eruption, 250 feet of rock layers were deposited. Think of what a world wide flood could do!

    I don't know where in the world you get that, but my guess is that ethier your math is wrong, or the whole ocean wouldn't evaporate with only that amount of energy.

  • @LeinadONyt Mount Saint Helens did not form limestone, and why would a red hot volcano somehow refute what I am saying anyway?

    If my math is wrong show your math. i did not even include heat from all the igneous rock or meteorites in the geologic strata, limestone alone is a vast underestimate.

  • @InternetDarkLord Show ME your math, and I never said Mt. Saint Helens gave of limestone.

  • @LeinadONyt I did show you the math, calcite setting is exothermic, so it radiates 11,290 joules per gram. Go to a massive concrete structure and feel the heat yourself, concrete contains calcite. Where are you getting numbers?

  • @InternetDarkLord I'm sorry but I really can't continue this argument (although I'd love to). I have too much homework and too many extra activities; I don't have the time to spare. I'll keep you in mind, and might debate you later on your page, but right now I don't have time.

  • @LeinadONyt That is the smartest comment yet.

  • @InternetDarkLord Plateaus: You are assuming that! Under normal cercumstances it takes a long time for plateaus to form. You havn't been around long enough to know whether they were made in millions of years or in a few days.

    Anyway the point stands- the plateaus would have eroded into the rivers around it, as it was being made, if they took thousands of years to make.

    The rock is stll the same size though. A rock layer that is thousands of miles long, would not have been made by slow...

  • @LeinadONyt You are assuming that! There are science dating tests, and it is impossible for massive layers of stone like limestone to form in a short time, the 11,290 joules of energy per gram would boil one flood.

    No, Canyons like the Grand Canyon takes millions of years to make.

    You have not been around long enough to see any plateau form! Why even spout such a dumb cliche!

  • @InternetDarkLord I don't think the whole ocean could boil away, do you?

    Why millions of years, and not a few days (if the conditinions were catastrophic enough). I mean, Mt. Saint Helens eruption in 1982 carved a canyon over 150 feet (46 m) deep in a single day! -AiG

    Neither have you, but I will say again: If the plateau was made slowly by surrounding rivers carving into the rock, the plateau would have eroded into the rivers too.

  • @LeinadONyt The Colorado plateau is mostly nonigneous rock, so a volcano is irrelevant.

    Why wouldn't 560,000,000,000,000,000,000,00­0,000,000 joules boil the ocean? Because the energy was released over a vast time, that is why!

    There is no reason the entire plateau would erode away, there are only some many rivers running through it.

  • @InternetDarkLord The volcano is an answer to what you said here: " rock layers cannot form in a short period"

    Sgh... Yes it should erode over MILLIONS OF YEARS.

    .....

    I'll try to get back to that, but I'm too busy. I'm sorry but I just don't have time to answer.

    Maybe on the weekend...

  • @LeinadONyt I said sedimentary rock, limestone, cannot form over vast periods because of the heat. And why would a VOLCANO refute an objection about heat? Even if a volcano could dump all that calcite in a flood, the water would vaporize. Water expands 1600 times when it turns to steam, everything would boil to death, then be killed by the pressure, then smother as oxygen levels plunged! HEAT is the problem.

  • @InternetDarkLord ...and changing climates. Even layers across the US are just to big to have been made slowly.

    I also noticed you had nothing to say about the polystrate fossils...

    And as for the next list you gave, please explain the evedince you have and the conclusions being drawn. I already know answers to some of the supposed thing that disprove The Flood. But I just don't have the time to tell you now. I have lots of homework to do. Maybe I can get back to you on the weekend.

  • @LeinadONyt I gave you a video that debunks polystrate fossils. Also, polystrate fossils give no reason for ONE GLOBAL flood, a thousand local ones would explain the same thing.

  • @InternetDarkLord I'm sorry, I didn't get the video. You don't get it. There is *a single fossil* that is burried in *hundreds of years* worth of rock layers.

  • @LeinadONyt What fossil in what layers? And why ONE GLOBAL flood, not an old lake anyway?i

  • @LeinadONyt Many kinds of sedimentary rock don't form under water. Coconino Sandstone forms from deserts, Tillite is formed by ice, Desert varnish is actually slowly formed by exposure to the air.

    Many types of volcanic rock do not form under water.

    Exposed metamorphic rock could not form under water.

    Want more?

  • 1) if god was all-powerful, why did he need six days to create the universe?

    2) why create a man out of nothing, then yank his rib out to make a woman?

    3) why would this god bother with any of this if not to exert tyrannical rule and to hear weaker beings bleat his name?

    4) if he was all knowing, how could he not see adam and eve would disobey?

    5) if he has a divine plan, why invite jesus to 'save' the humans from his won punishments 5000 years later? and why have a son? he's all-powerful

  • Sir KingHeathen, this reaction in itself is most likely exactly what you were looking for in the first place; nevertheless I did not see it as fruitless to attempt to provide you with maybe a different kind of response all together. There is Grace for you, and whether you believe it or not, God cares for you and it breaks his heart to see you rebuking him video after video. Please for your sake start a new perspective altogether, and if you do you will begin to see the life God intended for you.

  • @PleaseListen231 No, you lack faith in Quetzacoatl! The Feathered Serpent God will demand virgin sacrifice unless your blasphemy stops at once!

  • One infinitely small amount of time before the "Big Bang" according to many Time, Space, Matter don't exist. This is true NOTHING. From NOTHING everything showed up. Is this not also an unreasonable assumption. No experiments can be done here either. Only more theories (unproven guesses). Which THEORY is more reasonable (Theistic or Atheistic). Can you explain how anything was created from NOTHING. Any answer is unproven THEORY. Which explanation is better. Have Fun Today!

  • @darlgc No, modern physics does not say that. It says universes can generate baby universes. And there are experiments to study quantum theory. For example, Stephen Hawkings proposed quantum fluctuation causes black holes to radiate the Hawkings radiation, so scientists are devising experiments to test his proposal.

    So, where did God come from? How did He create the stars? How will you test your assertions?

  • One infinitely small amount of time before the "Big Bang" according to many Time, Space, Matter don't exist. This is true NOTHING. From NOTHING everything showed up. Is this not also an unreasonable assumption. No experiments can be done here either. Only more theories (unproven guesses). Which THEORY is more reasonable (Theistic or Atheistic). Can you explain how anything was created from NOTHING. Any answer is unproven THEORY. Which explanation is better. Have Fun Today!

  • Quantam Mechanics does exist and can be used in experiments. No experiment can prove (so far anyway) that quantum fluctuation is the reason for the universes existence. Again I say, you can't treat something as LAW that is only THEORY. There is observable evidence that supports either (Atheists or Theists) THEORY. Note: A theory can be based on laws and still not be true. You should use the scientific method. Creationists also have many "experiments".

  • @darlgc Creationists have no experiments, because they have no theory. If God literally made all the stars in one 24 hour day, explain how God made the stars. How long did each take? What order did he create them? Which ones were made before noon? Did the Holy Spirit or cherubs help? There is no theory, hence no experiments.

  • Any unproven theory (God from your perspective or Quantum Fluctuation, plain old big bang,evolution,creationism,...­...etc. requires faith. Of course, something is true. Theories, can and should use laws (proven facts). Theories are not laws by definition. Quantum fluctuation should get the same speculation that you gave Genesis. "If you were trying to explain how a computer worked to a room full of 4 yr olds, would your explanation not seem silly 20 years later?" Have Fun Today

  • @darlgc Quantum Mechanics is not speculation, it can be tested by experiments. Theists have no experiments.

  • What is the purpose here. His commentary is picking at everything he can. Someone else could pick apart everything he has said. The choice is sample, God created it all which requires some faith or. "There came a big bang, time matter and energy showed up, for no reason, from nothing. "Nothing (instead of God) created everything from nothing for no reason???Which requires more faith?

  • @darlgc Except physics doesn't say that.

    It says universes generate baby universes, due to the quantum fluctuation.

    It requires no faith, Quantum Mechanics is based on experiments.

  • Speaking of absurdities, verse 15 says that stars were created to give light upon the earth. But the number of known galaxies is so vast, if more than a tiny fraction of stars were visible on earth, the planet would be a red hot cinder from all that light.

  • You work for the Devil and dont even know it

  • you have no faith, ur being cocky and arrogant. I cant believe ur laughing in Gods face, your such a fool. Jesus is the brighter light and John the baptist is the lesser. Just a little biblical code for you. Is this worth going to hell for?Forever is a long time to be wrong. Drunk?

  • The first primitive whale (50 million years ago) was a mammal on the land that went into the water. Scientists call it the Ambulocetus or Walking whale. The guys who wrote this Genesis story didn't know that! They blew it! LOL! They took this six day creation story right from the Babylonian creation myth, Enumah Elish. Check it out on the internet.

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  • Dude that is so true!!!... Why didn't i ever think of that...

    If he punished the people building the tower off babel... why did he decide no to punish us for building skyscrapers and airplanes? :p

  • @ChuriAMVids Because of MERCY through Jesus Christ !

  • @stephencarol2007

    Why would god be so mean like that?... First make everyone. Then Kill everyone because they where evil. Then make everyone again. The send christ and not kill everyone even if we are evil.

    Why did he make everyone first if he was just going to drown them? He should have sent

    "christ" since the beginning and that way many people (including children, babies, elderly) wouldn't have had to drown. :D

    The bible is illogical.

  • @ChuriAMVids So you believe in God it sounds? Your just full of hate. Gods plan is greater than youir life. Too bad you wont see the kingdom because youCHOOSE to be a blashpemer

  • @douglasdolly

    buy choosing to be a "blashpemer" im also choosing to be educated and to learn what I can about the Truth ( The Real Truth). By the way I don't hate anything about the Bible or about god.. I actually find that stuff funny... Don't you find it funny when it says 300 foxes were tied by the tail by Samsung and then lit on fire? I think it is :)

  • God didn't need to create the sun to have light, HE is the light of the world, He only had to speak His own essence into place to have light, He created the sun to RULE the day, the day had nothing to do with the sun until God put the sun there to rule it. ..you don't understand this light or anything you are trying to explain because you don't know the creator and His ability to make things in such a way that your puny finite brain cannot possibly understand.

  • @martiebaby God IS light, huh? So when God said "Let there be light" what he was really saying was "Let there be ME!" That means he created HIMSELF.

    I really wish you guys would think your apologetics through a bit more completely.

  • "In the beginning blah blah..." What follows is an elaboration on the opening statement; not a separate action.

  • I like it when this sky daddy told Adam to go and name all of the animals, he must have been a very very busy man for a very long time with no time to be with Eve to make babies. But lets not forget the so-called making of plants before the sun, what does all plant life need....................the sun.

    The creation story what a joke.

  • star tek had a cool story to do with whales LOL think was star trek movie 3

  • I realize this is a little off-topic. But how would you respond if I claimed that all the paleontological data in regards to the origins in Africa are calculated from bits here and fragments there. That it's hardly concrete evidence of any origins there. Isn't it just as fair to assume most of civilization has originated from Middle Eastern areas as genesis 2:10-14 reports?

  • @MoreLoveJesus paleontological data in regards to the origins in Africa!!!! Scientists have mapped the human genome and have genetically traced, BEYOND ALL SHADOW OF DOUBT, humans to an african ancestor 250,000 years ago on the maternal line and 70,000 years ago on the paternal line. Every day science is discovering something new to destroy religion.

  • @greeny202a did they estimate this 250,000 years?

  • @midgets75 Well im using Richard Dawkins' estimate but to my knowledge there are others who say mitocondrial DNA (female line) shares other ancestors during this time but they all agree that it cannot be less than 150,000 or more than 250,000. But I would suppose you would have to say, including y chromosome DNA (male line) that the single modern human ancestor evolved between 50,000 to 100,000 years ago.

  • @greeny202a what is the proof of this evolution in the chromosome?

  • @midgets75 we have more than that!!!!. life started with RNA not DNA and scientists have grown RNA from organic molecules! look up -

    "RNA world easier to make"

  • @midgets75 Do you understand genetic markings? If not, then you aren't qualified to be in this conversation. If you do, then you should already know your own answer. Of course, I already know the answer based simply on how your worded your question. It would be like a judge asking a police officer "What is the proof of this murder in this fingerprint?"

    Go research "chromosome 2" and "Endogenous retroviruses" and maybe you will start to get it.

  • @KingHeathen no it wouldnt. did you know mutations are 99.99% harmfull or neutral? how could we evolved every major organ in our bodies in billions of years? which we would die if even one fails. do you realize how stupid evolution even sounds

  • @midgets75 Why do you question the theory of evolution, but not the theory of gravitation?  Where's your proof that a force is pulling us towards Earth not caused by anything other than the attraction of mass?

    If you don't like the theory of evolution, propose your own theory, go win that Nobel prize, and laugh in all of our faces. I will be one of the first to shake your hand.

  • @emptysea2000 what the fuck did that have to do with anything?

  • @midgets75 I'm curious. Why is evolution the only scientific theory that lacks enough evidence for you to believe it, or do you disbelieve all scientific theories? How do you have more knowledge than the professionals in the field? If you do, why are you not changing the world because of it?

  • @midgets75 I just love made up statistics!  Actually, the vast majority of all mutations are neutral in nature. Do you even understand what is considered a "mutation" biologically speaking? Did you bother looking into ANY of the 3 things I gave you which would answer your previous questions?

    You remind me of a primitive tribal person hearing stories about high tech devices in another land and screaming about how impossible they would be.

  • @KingHeathen did you pull that one out of your ass? of course i know what a mutation is and it can be good BUT it is proven that mutations are waaaaay more harmful than anything else. you still havnt gave me a good argument all you do is try to be funny. your not gonna mutate a third arm and it work perfectly. think of the possibility of that arm being completely functional and not having tumors and shit and the chance of that happening again in order for all of mankind to adopt it

  • @midgets75

    The thing about mutations is that they don't HAVE to happen multiple times. If I have a mutation that changes how my body deals with calcium, I might have much stronger bones in my youth, though it eventually causes buildup in my arteries and kills me at 50. Big deal. I've passed the age of having lots of kids by that point, a time in which I outclassed my peers thanks to my advantage. The mutation that ultimately kills me still gets passed to all my kids because it aided in youth.

  • @HelplessVictim ok how did your heart evolve along with every major organ in your body? did it just take time and faith? no you would never be alive. it all happened at once

  • @midgets75

    It's a weird double-standard that you expect me to walk you through human evolution step-by-step, while your own side ("it all happened at once") requires absolutely no facts to back it up. Rather strange, isn't it? Suspiciously convenient for your case, too.

    I'm not a biologist, I can't take you through everything. If you're genuinely curious, talk to DonExodus and do research. On the other hand, if you're just going to keep asserting baseless alternatives, you can go fuck yourself.

  • @midgets75 *ugh* NO scientist on the entire planet thinks that "every major organ...happened at once"...it started simple. Take the eye: Photosensitive cells in one patch. Then a recession in that patch allowing to understand where the light is coming from. Then a film over the patch to act as a lens to focus the light better. There are MANY organisms that don't have organs that are like you think they all are. They show stages that our organs may have also gone through over time.

  • @KingHeathen you can't speak for EVERY scientist, my husband is a scientist that works at the university and HE thinks the creation of our bodies, including the eye HAPPENED ALL at once as do many of his colleagues. Don't presume to speak for others, MANY scientists believe this to be true, get your information straight.

  • @martiebaby Your husband should be fired if he's a biologist because he definitely doesn't know what he's talking about. Perhaps what I should have said was "No well-informed scientist" The evolution of the eye is VERY well understood and documented. Where did your husband get his accreditation and what is his degree in? I'm guessing engineering.

  • @KingHeathen then your saying it did all happen at once..

  • @midgets75 *face palm!*

    You aren't worth any further effort.

  • @KingHeathen you just know your wrong hahahaha

  • @KingHeathen You asked who was God talking to in part of this video,where God say Let US make man in OUR image. He was talking to himself,... that is to say He was talking to God the Son & God the Holy Spirit. He being God the Father. If you look in the New Testament all Things were made through Jesus,nothing that was made was made withoout Him> In fact in may well have been Jesus who said Let us make man in our Image.

  • @rangoon03 Watch the rest of the series...you are going to learn that as we move forward, there are some problems with that apologetic. Also, I have another video on your idea of Jesus being there from day one...I think it was called "Eternal Jesus"...but I'm not sure. If you want to see it and that isn't the right title, let me know and I'll find it for you.

  • @rangoon03 Thanks for the reply & i look forward to you going forward with your observations on the Bible,.. genesis etc & i yeah i would be happy to hear what you have in regard to "The Eternal Jesus" ( i know that isn't the title) but i get what you mean.

  • @rangoon03 Actually, the exact title is "Eternal Jesus?" Thanks for watching.

  • @midgets75 Again, you have proven that you do NOT know what a mutation is and again, they are usually neutral in affect. Allow me to help you. You have two parents. They each have genes that you can inherit. ANYTHING that doesn't match up to one of those genes is a "mutation"...it doesn't have to be a "third arm." It can just be arms that are slightly longer proportionally.

  • @midgets75 ‘Evolution of Biological Information’, Thomas Schneider, Journal of Nuclaic Acid Research, Oxford University, July 2000. That's how. Do you realize how stupid you sound?

  • LOL...I find it funny that everyone that leaves comments...gets a response...AND THEN HAS NOTHING TO SAY...I have just always found it ironic that the ONLY evidence that is heavily relied on in Christian theology IS THE BIBLE....how can the bible prove the bible true...I find it funny when people mention God's will...if you believe that God has a will...HOW CAN ANYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE HAPPEN UNLESS IT IS GODS WILL SINCE HE IS ALL POWERFUL? This throws a BIG WRENCH in the idea of original sin

  • @Metamorphosis33 Yes, it is a bit odd, isn't it? Especially since their Bible actually COMMANDS that they have an answer for people like me. Oh well. They go and hide leaving us nonbelievers to perish in Hell instead of saving our souls with their apologetics. Something tells me it was the same way back when Paul created the concept.

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  • @KingHeathen My favorite leap of logic are the very basic ones...I really won't even argue against creationism...I mean really hell if I know...I do think that its funny when intelligent Christians use the old argument..."something had to create all this matter.....THEREFOR the Bible is true" I mean lets just FORGET the VAST AMOUNT of creation myths and God...but since the Bible seems to be HISTORICALLY ACCURATE..then we should just assume that EVERYTHING IT SAYS IS INFALLIBLE...just amazing

  • also when ppl die they dont become angels. they was already there before the earth was created. when he said us he was talking about god himself (the father) and god the son( jesus). if your wondering they are 1 in the same. thats why there is only 1 true god

  • in the bible when god said let there be light. what did u think he was talking about. a light bulb. that's when the sun was created. think before you talk

  • @AudayG89 LMAO! In the Bible is does say for there to be light...it's in verse 1:3 and is part of the 2nd day...

    THEN!!!!!!!

    It says God made the sun...on day 4...1:16

    Think before I talk? How about you read your own Bible before you criticize my comments about it.

  • @AudayG89

    You made yourself look really stupid. Why don't Christians read their own book? It clearly says god created the sun on the 4th day.

    Look stupid much?

  • Consider this ...

    Say an adopted little girl becomes distressed that she was not born from her mommy's tummy and says so to mommy. Suppose mommy replies, "But dear, you were born from my heart." Here is a story that TRULY and simply decribes her birth from the standpoint of relationship. Does it cover the biological/legal processes involved? No. Does it have to to make the point? No. Is it possible that the creation story(ies) are of similar ilk? If so, how would that change your approach?

  • @IshMelamaid This video is directed at people that take a literalist view of the Bible. Those that think that it is the 100% inerrant word of God and think that because it claims a 6 day creation story that therefore we should teach that in schools...

    If you want to make the whole thing a metaphor, then where do you stop? Did Adam really exist? If not, what does that say about Jesus who supposedly has a lineage that goes all the way back to him?

  • Its funny how all people like yourself say what was GOD doing before all of this? A little ignorant with your speech, but you need to understand the term heaven and heavens and all the Hebrew terms. Whales, grow up guy. You go and list everything he forgot in the oceans and we will never see you again. God is not going to put all that in the bible. This was a useless vid. You are drunk in this vid - sounds like it. Incoherent at times.

  • you forgot to mention the fact that...the earth was empty,void,and unformed.... his spirit went over the watersthen made light....,which water was not made intill the 2nd day.....which is removed in alot of bibles,because their trying to cover up a contradiction within the first part of story

  • all i have to say to you is well i will let tha bible speak for itself to ignorant people as your self Psalms 92:5-6 O Lord ,how great are Your works! Your thoughts are very deep.A senseless man does not know,nor does a fool understand this. Who are you to question God and how he choose to do his will.his thoughts are higher than yours because hes not man ever wonder why scientist cant disprove Noah's flood? it happened

  • @IRONIC1NC "let tha bible speak for itself?" That's a bad idea.

    Oh, and the flood has been debunked 1000's of times in 100's of ways. Here's one of my favorites. The Chinese language dates back before when the flood is said to have happened. And it continued AFTER the flood happened. How could this have occurred if all the Chinese died in the flood?

  • @IRONIC1NC He is using his brain,intelligence and natural ingenuity.Just as God designed him :p

  • @IRONIC1NC "ever wonder why scientist cant disprove Noah's flood? it happened."

    Prove to me that it did. Give me solid evidence that this "flood" occurred. Can you do it?

    If there was indeed a flood, tell me, how did Noah and his family repopulate the Earth when they were the only eight people alive on the planet?

  • @OpterMystik They obviously repopulated the world by inbreeding. DUH! The Bible says it's ok, cause Noah would have had to fuck his daughter, or his son would have had to fuck Noah's wife to keep repopulating!

    YAY FOR BIBLE STORIES!

  • Ignore the Bible unless you are talking about it as literature. Ignore Christians if they want to talk to you about the Bible.

    Seriously. Don't talk to them on their terms. Don't argue with them - it's not worth it. THEY are not worth it. Exclude them.

    Learn about science - as much as you can. Learn about the METHOD of science and how it is superior to lock-step belief.

  • @FraterSoddi So you are saying that back when I was a Christian that I wasn't worth talking to?

  • @KingHeathen Absolutely. I wouldn't have had you as a friend. You would have thought I was EVIL incarnate as well.... worse than Tex Watson, who murdered six people in cold blood. He got religion in jail. Me, I've been an atheist since I was about 8.

  • @FraterSoddi Actually, I would NOT have though of you as evil. Way to generalize. You are worse than them.

  • @KingHeathen - Malcolm X called it "the hate that hate produces". I never laws that excluded Christians from elected & appointed offices. 9 states & many municipalities have laws excluding atheists from holding office IN THEIR CONSTITUTIONS. An atheist in SC had to go to the Supreme Court just to get a notary public certificate. I CAN'T be "worse than them". Christians use the power of the LAW to enforce their prejudices. I just use my 1st Amendright of freedom of association to exclude them.

  • Yo bro have you got a vid on Revelations like this. I went to ya chan and could'nt find one. But since ppl think we're living in the last days I was wanting your take on it and if you ain't did a vid on rev, let me know when ya do so I can check it out. Peace

  • @JimmyCarol100 I don't have one that goes line for line...but I do discuss the concepts of Revelation and apocalypse claims in a few videos.

  • Something that always confused me is: Light is called "day."  Then the story says that it took one "day" to create "day." What does that mean? Isn't that a circular definition? And if light is called day, then isn't the story saying that it took one "light" to create "light?" Huh?

  • "but that's not what it says...it sounds retarded instead." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • Allah has explained how He created everything in the universe and brought all life out of water. He created humans from earth (not monkeys) and there is no need to attempt fabrications of "links" to the animal world in Islam.The Christian Bible says that Adam & Eve were both created here on Earth, less than 10,000 years ago. The Quran says that Adam & Eve were created in Heaven, and NOT on Earth. When they disobeyed God, He expelled them from Heaven, down to Earth.

  • @77705000000000000000

    And? Just because the Quran says that, it doesn't make it any more believable than any other religious text. (Or are you just pointing out that the two take the same story and contradict in details?)

  • Understandablity is that much

    Dog cannot interpret Human - Becoz we are human

    Human cannot interpret God - Becoz He is God.

    Human brain has limits...........

  • @stephencarol2007 religious brains are just like dog brains....religious brains have even more limits than an educated persons brain!

  • @MrDasmaster I can't go that far with you. I used to be religious. Does that mean my brain CHANGED some how? We are all gullible enough to fall for something. Being religious just means that that is one of the things you fell for. No one is immune from being tricked.

  • God created the night and day but creates the Sun and Moon later. Memory fail. Does God smoke weed? He put water directly above the sky dome(firmament), did he have cotton mouth? Made humans after animals then created man and woman separate and made woman after he made animals, memory fail again? Why does he have to be high all the time?

  • Normally I love your videos and see few to no logical flaws, but in your first point on this, I honestly believe it can be chalked up to God "creating" the rules of light (separating day from night). Since he's "omnipotent", he would have to first create the fundamental laws of things like gravity, energy, so forth. This could be a reference to the creation of light as a wave, or as an energy. Though I'm not Christian, I don't think there's much wrong with that part of the bible. Great vids :)

  • @colonofcoca I don't go into it on this video (time constraints) but while you can make that argument in and of the Bible's text alone...a little knowledge of the history of that story from it's Babylonian and Egyptian roots shoots it down. It also doesn't work if you apply scientific understanding that all light has to have a source and darkness is simply where that source can't reach. Of course, when you employ the concept of "omnipotence"...anything can work.

  • The Bible is not a scientific textbook. Genesis is figurative you can't read science into Genesis.

  • @azzyb23 Great....now convince the fundies of that.

  • @azzyb23 mhmm : ] agreed

  • I know I'm wasting my time, but whatever. The light in Genesis 1:3 is Christ.

    Rev 21:23 and the city had no need for the sun, nor of the moon, for the Glory of God did lighten it, and The Lamb is the light thereof. Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of Hosts shall reign in Mt. Zion

    Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are the children of light, and the children of day; we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

    Christ is light, satan is darkness.

  • @colvo115 Right....except that in the context of the rest of Genesis and the fact that each of those books were written by different authors quite some time apart from each other...that makes no sense with the rest of the story.

  • @KingHeathen 2 Ti 3:16 All scripture Is given by inspiration of God.

    2 Pt. 1:21 For prophecy came no in old time by the will of man: but holy men spake of God as they were moved Holy Spirit. JN 1:1 In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God

    Psalm 40: 7 Lo I come in the volume of a book, it is written of me

    But I know you'll just chalk it up to Christian Exegesis, or Apologetics,

    Ro: 8:6 For to be Carnally minded is death

  • @colvo115 You can quote the entire rest of the Bible if you want....it STILL doesn't make it fit the context of the story. It STILL doesn't give me something from the same author which would back up the idea that HE was trying to say what you claim instead of someone else offering NEW text as an "apologetic."

  • @KingHeathen Lol, I guess I was quoting a lot of scripture. But I was just trying to denote, as you may know, that God was the Author, not man. But it's hard for a Man who is carnally minded, or wants to rationalize the bible as a myth to see that. You want to say that Genesis and the pentateuch is a world unto its own. Therefore anyhting we christians add on later is just us trying to legitimize the text. But those scriptures I brought up are trying to say that the whole Word is connected.

  • @colvo115 I know that you THINK God was the author, but history proves otherwise. As to Christians adding to the text to support it...you need to look up "Circular Logic" and realize that doesn't work. Plus we know where many of the texts that were later canonized into what you now call the Bible came from. Their origins are often found in other religions and other texts and are then smashed together to try and make a new story make sense. For example, who is "Lilith?"

  • @KingHeathen I thought Monotheism came from the Hebrews, what other mythology or religion did they steal that from? And lillith is no where to be found in the original manuscripts, but is a rabbinical addened. And don't think I meant that God authored the book through his own hand, you know what I meant. Jer 1:9. God used people he Trusted to scribe his Words. And I know I'm using straw man arguments, but what can you do. That which is spirit is spirt, and that which is flesh is flesh.

  • @colvo115 Actually, the religion started as polytheistic and each god ruled over a region. Much of the stories came from ancient Babylonia and Egypt. Then the Hebrews took their regional god and claimed it was the "most high god" which became "one true god" then "the only god" and monotheism was born.

    To Lilith, in a more complete version of Genesis 1's creation story, Lilith is Adam's FIRST wife who wanted to be considered EQUAL to him, then God gives him Eve who is subordinate to him.

  • @KingHeathen Have you read Deutronomy 32:8-9? Doesn't make sense for God to have share of something if he owns it all.

  • @KingHeathen Lol the guy above you said that GOD wrote a bible XD >.> it was written by a bunch of pot smoking crazies.

  • @colvo115 "JN 1:1 In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God"

    That doesn't say anything about the bible. You assume that the bible is the word that this verse is speaking about, but it's not.

  • It's talking about Christ, who is the manifestation of the word, after-all he is what the scriptures are pointing to, for he is the cornerstone that completes it. John 5:39 "Search ye the scriptures, for in them you think you have salvation, but they are which testify of me." Revelation 19:13 and his name is called the Word of God. Are the scriptures and the Word of God the bible? and is not Christ what the entire bible is really about? Or what word do you believe it's talking about?

  • @colvo115 I do not believe that the bible is the true word of god, that's just what they tell us. The word is the word, it doesn't even have to be written down. The church today seems to follow the teachings of paul more than thier own christ, that's absurd.

  • Well it's simple, don't follow a church, follow God. And certainly don't listen to a man without checking him out in the word. 1 John 4:1 Beloved believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. It's true the gospels are the heart of the new testament. Paul and the apostles are just a second witness, pointing to Christ, and proving Christ. In the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word shall be established.

  • @colvo115 I do not believe that the bible is the word, so...

  • Ok.... Don't allow me to stand in your way of unbelief. 

  • @colvo115 Hey, I just pointed out that the verse you quoted said nothing of the bible being the word of god.

  • I asked you what you thought the Word was? In your mind what do you think is being said in John 1?

  • @colvo115 It's pretty self explanitory, "the word was with god, and the word was god", take it at face value. The word is the spirit.

  • The Holy Spirit? Come on, that's just a chemical reaction in our brain!

  • @Nate2203 But in all seriousness, I think that was my original point. That the Author of the Word or scripture was the Spirit. Which God gave unto separated( or Holy) men whom he chose before the foundation of the earth( Ephesian 1:4) After all the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit.

  • @colvo115 I just do not believe that all words written are of the spirit(especially the apostles and much of the OT...and Revelation). I find it more helpful to go to the direct word of god, rather than the one that has been corrupted by man and his religion.

  • Direct word of God, what would that be? Christ's Words? As for most of the old testament not being inspired, well Christ thought it was. Since he quoted form it 78 times. He would often state the Law( the Pentateuch) and the Prophets( and sometimes the psalms, which pretty much is the OT. I don't understand your beef with the apostles or Paul. Christ himself is the one who commissioned them. As for Revelation, Read Chapter 6, and see if it holds up with Matthew 24.

  • @colvo115 And how does that corilate with actual history?

  • @colvo115 Light is a Boson. The force particle for the electromagnetic force.

    One of four forces in nature.

  • I'm sorry was King heathen reading out of a science book or a physics book? no he was reading out of the bible, therefore I was discussing what the light meant in the biblical sense. Just as Christ said, I am the Light of the world, he that follows me shall not wark in darkness. Or God is Light and in him is no darknessl. You'll find that every prophecy in the bible concerning Satan deals in moons or months, and God is in days. Just as Noah was in the Ark for a full solar year.

  • @colvo115 Geologists proved there was no flood over 200 years ago.

    What does the moon have to do with your devil?

  • 1. What has that to do with anything I wrote?

    2. Ever hear of a Lunatic? Comes from Lunar.

  • @colvo115 ''in him is no darkness''

    You got me, I have no come back.