Sifu Painter if Bagua is the art of change why do practioners take prefighting postures? When a real fight starts you may not even have time for taking any fighting posture, but only to respond form where you are at the moment. Please comment thanks.
@alopda1 Your question is a good one. The answer is that in Jiulong Baguazhang unlike other systems we do not take any pre-fighting postures. If there is a threat we perceive we may raise our palms up in a gesture of stopping otherwise when attacked without warning we go from where we are.
Thank you for your comments. The old Chinese character for Song was that of a Pine Tree. It implied that the tree stands with top toward heaven, roots in earth, limbs reaching out and body expanding. All in a natural way without undue effort. It says nothing about limp. Natural it is not trying nor is it not trying. The middle line in the taiji symbol!
Thanks for your comments. If you train Nei-gong physical and mental concepts and principles it helps you relax and this is or can be song the correct amount of energy with no extra tension. This is a complex subject but it has nothing to do with mystical powers just as Master Jou used to say, Common Sense!
Finally! Mr.Painter - I wish more teachers had your integrity.
So many prominent practitioners allude to mystical explanations.
However I do believe qigong and neigong have a psycho-physical effect - releaving subconscious inhibitions and muscle-tone to allow greater agility, coodination and explosiveness.
I am very interested in your opinion on the matter sir.
What Shifu Kenny Gong said is almost the same thing my Shifu Li, Long-dao said about Fajin. He said "Fa (pulse) is simply a very short compressed An(push)". Thanks for the comment. Let black powder burn in the open it goes slowly, compress it in a shell case and it explodes very fast.
@AlHasashinBattousai Yes all internal or so called internal systems use An-Jin pushing and Fa-jin pulsing force as well as many other types of Jin/ energy.
Fa-jin is nothing but mass (weight)applied at high speed (velocity) over a very short duration(time)directed to a close target (distance). Simple physics explains most of the Jin or force concepts in Chinese Martial Arts. So the answer is yes to both questions.
Hi Mr. Painter. A great explanation. My sigung, the late master Kenny Gong said that fa-jin was "density-change." The change of density in your body. The rate of change of density determines short power(explosive) all the way to long power(what apears to look like pushing somebody). A student once asked him how to acquire short power. He simply stated that short power is long power, made shorter. It's just that simple if you are at that level. For everybody else it kinda goes over their head.
Thank you for your comment. Fa-jin發勁translates as issue force. The term is synonymous with rapid pulsed force in martial arts. The meaning of Fa 發 is: send out; issue; deliver. Jin 勁 is strength; energy; a literal definition of Fa-jin, is "deliver force". The term closer to the meaning you describe is Bao Fa-jin 爆發勁 or explosive strength. Bao 爆explode; burst. My teacher taught us to compress the energy to create the Bao Fa-jin which most people just call Fa-jin.
eh- fajin is actually more a short explosive strike not quite short push. of course for safety purposes, when practicin fajin on a partner, we use slightly mor a short explosive push that whips the oponent. but we must remember that its really a strike
Sifu Painter if Bagua is the art of change why do practioners take prefighting postures? When a real fight starts you may not even have time for taking any fighting posture, but only to respond form where you are at the moment. Please comment thanks.
alopda1 9 months ago
@alopda1 Your question is a good one. The answer is that in Jiulong Baguazhang unlike other systems we do not take any pre-fighting postures. If there is a threat we perceive we may raise our palms up in a gesture of stopping otherwise when attacked without warning we go from where we are.
thegompa 9 months ago
Indeed! Dou xie laoshi!
RonnySayfan 3 years ago
Dear Ronny,
Thank you for your comments. The old Chinese character for Song was that of a Pine Tree. It implied that the tree stands with top toward heaven, roots in earth, limbs reaching out and body expanding. All in a natural way without undue effort. It says nothing about limp. Natural it is not trying nor is it not trying. The middle line in the taiji symbol!
John Painter
thegompa 3 years ago
Dear Ronny,
Thanks for your comments. If you train Nei-gong physical and mental concepts and principles it helps you relax and this is or can be song the correct amount of energy with no extra tension. This is a complex subject but it has nothing to do with mystical powers just as Master Jou used to say, Common Sense!
thegompa 3 years ago
THANK YOU!! Just like that you iluminated me on the the exact nature of "song" - I understood the term in a way that made me too soft.
RonnySayfan 3 years ago
Finally! Mr.Painter - I wish more teachers had your integrity.
So many prominent practitioners allude to mystical explanations.
However I do believe qigong and neigong have a psycho-physical effect - releaving subconscious inhibitions and muscle-tone to allow greater agility, coodination and explosiveness.
I am very interested in your opinion on the matter sir.
RonnySayfan 3 years ago
What Shifu Kenny Gong said is almost the same thing my Shifu Li, Long-dao said about Fajin. He said "Fa (pulse) is simply a very short compressed An(push)". Thanks for the comment. Let black powder burn in the open it goes slowly, compress it in a shell case and it explodes very fast.
Thank YOu
John Painter.
thegompa 3 years ago
@thegompa
So fajing cannot be peng? Why just An? Wouldn't peng be better since it is the father of the rest of the other energies?
Also, does this mean that bagua has An energy? Does it have peng, too?
Hashish
AlHasashinBattousai 1 year ago
@AlHasashinBattousai Yes all internal or so called internal systems use An-Jin pushing and Fa-jin pulsing force as well as many other types of Jin/ energy.
thegompa 11 months ago
Fa-jin is nothing but mass (weight)applied at high speed (velocity) over a very short duration(time)directed to a close target (distance). Simple physics explains most of the Jin or force concepts in Chinese Martial Arts. So the answer is yes to both questions.
Thanks for asking
thegompa 3 years ago
Hi Mr. Painter. A great explanation. My sigung, the late master Kenny Gong said that fa-jin was "density-change." The change of density in your body. The rate of change of density determines short power(explosive) all the way to long power(what apears to look like pushing somebody). A student once asked him how to acquire short power. He simply stated that short power is long power, made shorter. It's just that simple if you are at that level. For everybody else it kinda goes over their head.
hsingstye 3 years ago
is that really fajin or the result of john painters greater weight and strenght.
xingyimaster1987 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. Fa-jin發勁translates as issue force. The term is synonymous with rapid pulsed force in martial arts. The meaning of Fa 發 is: send out; issue; deliver. Jin 勁 is strength; energy; a literal definition of Fa-jin, is "deliver force". The term closer to the meaning you describe is Bao Fa-jin 爆發勁 or explosive strength. Bao 爆explode; burst. My teacher taught us to compress the energy to create the Bao Fa-jin which most people just call Fa-jin.
John Painter
thegompa 3 years ago
eh- fajin is actually more a short explosive strike not quite short push. of course for safety purposes, when practicin fajin on a partner, we use slightly mor a short explosive push that whips the oponent. but we must remember that its really a strike
imbrd 3 years ago