Typical of all television from the last two decades. Women are always the smart ones, in charge, and men are always madmen, fools or idiots. Every single show now, even the commercials. I have news for the fools who write this garbage, in the real world both sexes have power, not just one or the other. The garbage you feed us on TV is slanted fantasy.
@TehranTimmy Have you *watched* "I, Claudius"? Because there's plenty of smart men in it, Claudius being one of them. Claudius, Augustus, Drusus, Sejanus, Tiberius, Agrippa, Herod and Postumus are all portrayed as intelligent and powerful and both sexes are portrayed as being powerful but flawed people. The women are just more shrew since they can't practice their power openly. and If you would have watched "I, Claudius" that the women get as much negative portrayal as the men.
@Abridgedfan134 to be honest, I had not watched it until I saw this clip, and then because of this clip I watched the whole thing. Good series, though I doubt the real Claudius wanted to restore the republic. True, he was better than the rest, but not as idealistic as the authors of this novel and show made him out to be. And what I said about the PC agenda in everything on TV today, that still stands. Just watch, pay attention. Watch old 60's shows, men and women are equally bad and good.
@Abridgedfan134 Compare the old 60's shows to shows now, and almost universally, now men are bad or idiots, and women are never bad, never wrong, and always smart and never the comic foils. In the old shows, it was equally split among both genders. Not so any more.
@TehranTimmy I'm wondering what shows you're watching, while I can agree that some shows cut their women way to much slack, same thing can be said about shows that cut their men way to much slack, it depends on what you're looking for. From what I see in TV from today is a mostly equal setting between the sexes, both genders are allowed faults, flaws and depth as characters, so I gotta disagree with what you're saying. And old 60s TV shows had predominantly male casts, so bad example.
@Abridgedfan134 TV, dude. Every fucking channel. If you want to ignore it, that is your prerogative, but don't piss in my leg and tell me its raining. I know what I see. Telling me "you don't see what you see" doesn't change what is obvious right before me. You, I think, just aren't paying attention.
@TehranTimmy We are looking at very different TV Shows I think, aimed at different audiences, it all depends on demographic and quality of writing I suppose, but I'm just not seeing what you're seeing, especially not in concern with "I, Claudius".
Remember, too, that LIVIA, unlike Messalina, did all she did in order to KEEP the Imperium running smoothly, and it was, indeed, only when she was no longer involved that the system began to break down. Claudius got handed a SERIOUS mess....
As for being *half* witted, well what can I say? Except that I have survived to middle age with half my wits while thousands of others have DIED with all of theirs intact!
@JaneeAddy She would have loved her, and thanked her for being such a loving wife to Claudius. She would have smiled at her with adoring eyes and said "Care for a fig, darling?"
Open the same video on 2 separate windows, and mute the sound on one, then sync them manually. I have no idea why it does this, the episodes where fine before I uploaded them, but some how when they where up they where all messed up.
Typical of all television from the last two decades. Women are always the smart ones, in charge, and men are always madmen, fools or idiots. Every single show now, even the commercials. I have news for the fools who write this garbage, in the real world both sexes have power, not just one or the other. The garbage you feed us on TV is slanted fantasy.
TehranTimmy 11 months ago
@TehranTimmy Have you *watched* "I, Claudius"? Because there's plenty of smart men in it, Claudius being one of them. Claudius, Augustus, Drusus, Sejanus, Tiberius, Agrippa, Herod and Postumus are all portrayed as intelligent and powerful and both sexes are portrayed as being powerful but flawed people. The women are just more shrew since they can't practice their power openly. and If you would have watched "I, Claudius" that the women get as much negative portrayal as the men.
Abridgedfan134 9 months ago
@Abridgedfan134 to be honest, I had not watched it until I saw this clip, and then because of this clip I watched the whole thing. Good series, though I doubt the real Claudius wanted to restore the republic. True, he was better than the rest, but not as idealistic as the authors of this novel and show made him out to be. And what I said about the PC agenda in everything on TV today, that still stands. Just watch, pay attention. Watch old 60's shows, men and women are equally bad and good.
TehranTimmy 9 months ago
@Abridgedfan134 Compare the old 60's shows to shows now, and almost universally, now men are bad or idiots, and women are never bad, never wrong, and always smart and never the comic foils. In the old shows, it was equally split among both genders. Not so any more.
TehranTimmy 9 months ago
@TehranTimmy I'm wondering what shows you're watching, while I can agree that some shows cut their women way to much slack, same thing can be said about shows that cut their men way to much slack, it depends on what you're looking for. From what I see in TV from today is a mostly equal setting between the sexes, both genders are allowed faults, flaws and depth as characters, so I gotta disagree with what you're saying. And old 60s TV shows had predominantly male casts, so bad example.
Abridgedfan134 9 months ago
@Abridgedfan134 TV, dude. Every fucking channel. If you want to ignore it, that is your prerogative, but don't piss in my leg and tell me its raining. I know what I see. Telling me "you don't see what you see" doesn't change what is obvious right before me. You, I think, just aren't paying attention.
TehranTimmy 9 months ago
@TehranTimmy We are looking at very different TV Shows I think, aimed at different audiences, it all depends on demographic and quality of writing I suppose, but I'm just not seeing what you're seeing, especially not in concern with "I, Claudius".
Abridgedfan134 9 months ago
Remember, too, that LIVIA, unlike Messalina, did all she did in order to KEEP the Imperium running smoothly, and it was, indeed, only when she was no longer involved that the system began to break down. Claudius got handed a SERIOUS mess....
DSDunlap72 11 months ago
Yes there are ways!!i could suggest a few that dont result in pregnancy
ss3cleric 11 months ago
As for being *half* witted, well what can I say? Except that I have survived to middle age with half my wits while thousands of others have DIED with all of theirs intact!
Abridgedfan134 11 months ago
@Abridgedfan134 Yeah wasnt that just a fantastic line.
ss3cleric 11 months ago
@ss3cleric Its just perfectly delievered, I love this entire scene
Abridgedfan134 11 months ago
Oh my goodness, Claudius finally comes into his own. What an amazing speech.
talamioros 1 year ago 2
Messalina is the Director of Public Morals?!?
Memoria777 1 year ago
As Livia was to Augustus?
Uhh... yes.
Just don't touch the figs.
Jemmer1000 2 years ago 3
@Jemmer1000 Fortunately, Claudius knew all about the scheming of his grandmother Livia so he wasn't like Augustus.
3baxcb 1 year ago
i can't stand the high-school-musical quality of Herod's make-up artist
jackie4964 2 years ago
@jackie4964 yes and did you notice how much his voice changed "through the years?"
JaneeAddy 1 year ago
"My darling, I want to be Livia to your Augustus." That's a frightening comment.
echock89 2 years ago 21
Claudius probably felt it as soon as she said it, as he knew how Livia truly was. But Messalina couldn't arrive at Livia's heel.
Drakken682 2 years ago 5
@echock89 What Livia would have done to Messalina...?
JaneeAddy 1 year ago
@JaneeAddy She would have loved her, and thanked her for being such a loving wife to Claudius. She would have smiled at her with adoring eyes and said "Care for a fig, darling?"
Houdini774 1 year ago 4
@Houdini774 Claudius: "No thanks, I'm on my fourth cup of non-refutum laced wine, so I probably throw it up if I tried."
3baxcb 1 year ago
@JaneeAddy Would have done? Don't you mean what Livia wouldn't have done to Messalina?
3baxcb 1 year ago
@echock89 Yes some alarms should have gone off in Claudius' head when she said that.
supertrouper2 1 year ago
Messalina is such a slut lol
kalebullen 2 years ago 5
Senate-pwned
ClarinetMadeofSteele 2 years ago 3
"Evidently quality of wits is more important that quantity..."
I love it. XD
fryfry377 2 years ago 22
Claudius was one of the best rulers of Rome he was a very smart man =) love him lots his so cute
kalebullen 2 years ago
Poor old Augustus- has to put up with Livia for eternity!
guitarlegend888 2 years ago 3
Arrggh!!! Please sort out the sound! Thankyou for putting them up, but please if you do - make sure they are in sync!
andy7666 2 years ago
Open the same video on 2 separate windows, and mute the sound on one, then sync them manually. I have no idea why it does this, the episodes where fine before I uploaded them, but some how when they where up they where all messed up.
zeusbark 2 years ago
some people will bitch about anything, thanks for the series
locheelad2 2 years ago 6
Open a second window and must the first. It's not hard to get them working.
12stringsforme 3 years ago 3
Thanks! I wish I had thought of that before.
caillou2000 2 years ago 2