@marcelcol69 Lol Malik used the Quran and the hadith and the custom of Madinites, the Hanafis used the Quran and the hadith and logic, example, in Hanafi madhab you don't have to read the surah Al-Fatihah because not all companions knew how to read Al-Fatihah( I mean the muallaf) and the Prophet SAW allows it. So, Imam Abu hanifah used this theory and made a fatwa that Al-Fatihah is not compulsory.
Imam Muslim(Shaafi) RA, Imam Abu Dawood(Hanbali), Imam Nawawi RA (Shaafi), Waqiah ibn jamah (Hanafi), Abdullah ibn Mubarak (Master of Ahadeeth - Hanafi). So umm I confused were these excellent scholars RA not following the way OF Rasool SAW?
Imam Muslim(Shaafi) RA, Imam Abu Dawood(Hanbali), Imam Nawawi RA (Shaafi), Waqiah ibn jamah (Hanafi), Abdullah ibn Mubarak (Master of Ahadeeth - Hanafi). So umm I confused were these excellent scholars RA not following the way od Rasool SAW?
They were muqalid, they were mujtahid. Who had got reason to follow a madhab with their judgment not blind followers. Scholars like Ibn Taymiyya and Ibn Abdul Wahab were Hanbali scholars but they were not blind followers. They were the gave concept of going back to authetic sunnah of prophets.
Imam Muslim, Abu Dawood, Nawawi and the other great people were not muqallids and they didnt follow a scholar blindly. It should be noted that most of them were Mujtahids and Mujtahids are not muqallids, secondly it should be noted that we shouldnt insert the terms "shafee" "hanbali" etc to their names coz they ddnt do so. Some of them infact did so and they were asked if they were muqallids and they sad "NO", its just that our opinions match their opinions. I hope this info helps
and then what the scholars said in regards to each ahadeeth and then decide which sahaaba was the more rightly guided one and then which scholar was more rightly guided ourselves and so on and so forth..... And then take our own meaning on how to do a Certain thing. SURELY THIS WOULD CREATE MORE PROBLEMS AND SPLITS IN OUR UMMAH?
Does this Mean that we should all pick up collectively all the books of hadeeth, and decide ourselvelves which are sahih, which are good and the finally which are daeef(weak). And then understand the context and then the time of revelation, and then who it was referring to and then how the sahabaa (as) interpreted them,
No, we are not scholars, we are to seek knowledge from the scholars whom Allah Most High has given a position of responsibility to help us learn and give rulings.If you are sincere Allah will guide you as He is The Guide.
God bless you all brothers and sisters in Allah sack , Masha Allah good lecturer right their well done , May Allah put us all in his path and his prophet Mohamed path Amen
First of all i have the utmost respect for brother Bilal and enjoy his lectures as he always has good things to say and i believe he is and has contributed to Islam immensely.
However at around 24:25 in this video he is outlining the intentions of differences between the Sahaba which are both valid and yet different in action. Although i don't really follow any particular Madhab nevertheless that is how the great scholars of the four Madhabs differed on certain rulings....interesting.
Mr adams you need help how could call dr bilal a big jahil you cant just follow a mathab blindly he has an alot of knowledge through the quran and sunnah do tawbah repent so Allah swt can forgive what you said i don't see any of your lectures on youtube
Subhan'Allah,you are a 100 % right,these men were highly respected imams and scholars,but following them blindly is not something you could call correct,example you are born in an islamic country where they have the hanafi madhhab,how can you of these pratices were indeed of the Prophet sallAllahu alayhi wa salam,so doing some research and thinking about it can get you really far in islam insh'Allah.
Only in the last century this call to abandon the madhab's has come from the ghair mukallid sect. Plz read Shaikh Ramadhan Albouti's La-madhabiyah for further guidance.
Brother Adam, no one who knows knowledge says leave your Madhab, but to keep an open mind to the strongest opinion based on proof not personality. I am Hanafi but I wipe over my cotton socks which most Hanifi's do not.May Allah Most Wise guide us,ameen.
title of talk itself implies that madhab of prophet (s.a.w) and the 4 recognised school of islamic jurisprudence are different things. Sunnis follow the madhab based on the principle of the imams (i.e. Hanafi, Shafi etc). For example in the hanafi madhab we have rulings that are based on other mujtahid imams research like Imam Muhammad Abu Yusuf and not Imam Abu Hanifah's (AGAINST his ijtihad) .
We follow the scholars that learned from the tabiun who learned from the sahaba who was taught by the master himself. Alhamdulliah we do not need Bilal Philips to tell us sunnis who to follow be it albani, bin baaz or other government endorsed personalities.
Madhab's have been codified /authenticated by scholars in the subsequent centuries. Thats why they are preserved to this day and will remain so till the day of judgement inshallah. Sunnah by a layperson (non-mujtadi) cannot be correctly followed without following a recognised madhab. Thats why throughout the centuries the people of sunnah have always followed one of the 4 madhabs.
there is no where written in hadeeth or quran that follow a particular imam or any 4 imam.. the 4 imams were greatest scholars of all time but they said if their fatwa contradicts with any sahih hadeeth then dont act upon my fatwa...its so simple why are we all fighting then..
this man is a big jahil. He does not seem to know anything about the islamic laws of fiqh. He should really study under recognised scholars like sh. Yaqubi, sh. keller, sh, hamza or sh zaid shakir. May allah guide him and me towards the truth.Ameen!!!!
Please remove your comment Akhi as it makes you look bad no one else! You come here and disrespect a great Shaykh such as Bilal Philips just shows us how much knowledge you have!
There were always differences of opinion right from the time of Prophet (SAW) and He did not believe such differences were harmful rather he said they were a MERCY upon the Ummah, so long as the differing opinions had some kind of evidence. An example is the famous incident about the Asr salah that occurred after the Battle of the Trench. Where some Sahabis delayed the prayer (made it Qaza) and some didnt and the Prophet said they are all right.
If we abandon the madhabs then this creates thousands of pseudo schools, as each person begins to carve out his own Deen from the Holy Quran and Sunna. This will be inevitable because each person, will deduct rulings from the Quran and Sunna, yet not have the skills, nor the mastery over the Islamic sciences coupled with the Taqwa that is required for a proper authentic interpretation of the Deen (which the four Imams had at the optimum level).
Whoever doesn't have knowledge should ask, as God says:
'Ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know' [21:7]
However, this is no excuse for rejecting a hadith which reaches you and which missed your Imam or shaykh, while following him blindly. This is the issue:
' "come to what Allah hath revealed; come to the Messenger": they say: "Enough for us are the ways we found our fathers following" ' [5:104]
The Prophet said: '...arrogance is rejecting the truth...' [Tirmidhi]
The fact is that nearly all the Ummah followed one of the four famous schools of law for over a thousand years. It is right to follow one of these schools as they are headed by the greatest scholars this Ummah has ever produced who, through rigorous research, and discussions, formulated basic principles and produced detailed rulings in a very systematic way which were refined further by the later scholars in each Madhab.
All madhabs are correct because the differences that occur between are due to the variant Usool they employ in interpreting text.
For example; Imam Malik accepts the practice of the people of Medina of his time and considers it stronger than the solitary hadith, Imam Abu Hanifa does not allow a solitary hadith to over a verse of the Quran, Imam Shafi rejects the Mursal hadith,
and Imam Ahmad accepts the use of a Daeef hadith in places with various conditions.
Don't forget that they differed also because some ahadith didn't reach them. If they reach you, u'r OBLIGED to follow it!
Shafi'i said: "The sunnahs of the Messenger of Allaah reach, as well as escape from, every one of us. So whenever I voice my opinion, or formulate a principle, where something contrary to my view exists on the authority of the Messenger of Allaah, then the correct view is what the Messenger of Allaah has said, and it is my view."
this s matematically impossible, to say ALL MADHHABS ARE CORRECT. as bilal brought the example, one of them thought that wudu is broken for (simply) touching a woman. but there's a hadith in which the prophet kissed his wives and then prayed. The hadith didn't reach this Imam, he is not guilty of it. However, the ruling is WRONG. It is haram for u, if you get to know this hadith, to insist believin that a kiss to ur wife breaks ur wudu.
of course 'm no t saying it's haram to follow an imam, i'm saying once u have an evidence some of them missed (i'm not talking about when the opinion is dfferent but when the evidence didn't reach the imam) u have no right to reject it n keep on following blindly what ur shaykh said.
if u go to scholars for evidences, and one of them missed and evidence... what evidence is he going to give u?
you wrongly think that the madhabs didnt change their opinions after the Imams had passed away. what I'm telling you is that they did change their opinion later, the scholars that came after recieved different evidences and changed the opinion.
and how can scholars miss evidence. have you got some secret collection of sahih hadith that your not showing anyone? the same hadiths that me & you have got access to the scholars have, and they have a broader understanding.
1. i'm sure many opinions were changed, but there are some that are NOT, like the wudu thing. isn't it?
2. how can scholars miss evidence?!? do u think that the sihah as sittah were compiled by the prophet? do u think there was internet on the time of imam shafi'i? didn't u know that some students of knowledge had to cross around borders to find a hadith?
There are also many other Usuli/interpretive differences which can be found in their Usul books. So the reason for the differences are the way they interpret the sources, not because they didnt have other evidences. So if you ask a Hanafi scholar for evidences he will show you his proofs and will tell you why he doesnt use other proofs, the same with other madhabs.
Imams also make mistakes, as Imam Malik said: "Truly I am only a mortal: I make mistakes (sometimes) and I am correct (sometimes). Therefore, look into my opinions: all that agrees with the Book and the Sunnah, accept it; and all that does not agree with the Book and the Sunnah, ignore it."
The madhabs base their answers on Quran & Hadith and they take Islam from the righteous Salaf. The four Imams of the madhabs were part of the Salaf. Imam Abu Hanifa was a Tabien and the other three were Taba Tabien. They all derived rulings from the Quran and Sunnah but they differed on the method.
u'r right with the incident of the prayer!! does this mean that if i get a hadith which CELARLY states something, i reject it because my Imam didn't receive this hadith? La!!
by the way, the hadith "ikhtilaf ummati rahma" (the differences among my umma r a mercy) is FABRICATED.
the differences of opinion hadith is weak but it does have a basis. that same saying has been repeated by many classical scholars, including Imam Ibn Taymiyya who ghair-muqalids follow a lot.
that is true. you should'nt use thsi words. In fact, if you don't have access to Quran n sunna it's not haram to follow the one with knowledge, as God says 'Ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know' [21:7]. The wrong thing is when you knowthey made a mistake, contraru to Q & Sunna and u reject it by your blind following. This is HARAM.
the hadiths that didnt reach them reached their students or later scholars, and thus the opinion of the madhabs changed over time. the madhabs do not go against Quran & Sunnah.
there are differences of opinions amoungst scholars, and theres nothing wrong with that. what is wrong is when people start saying any other opinion is haram
And its not up to a layman like us, just because we got access to quran and some hadiths, to go around interpreting the texts and coming up with our own rulings.
As u said some hdiths ddn't rech some, but you know that if an imam came to know a hadith which he didn't know, he inmediately applied it n changed his opinion, and this is the meaning of "they are not believers until they make you their judge in the disputes and then do not resist what you decide and submit themselves completely" [4:65].
So if an opinion is against the Sunna but the Imam didn't know it, it's not haram for him, as the Prophet said "If the judge makes ijtihaad and gets it right, he will have two rewards, and if he makes ijtihaad and gets it wrong, he will have one reward. (Bukhaari & Muslim).
But if u get to know the hadith which didn't reach him n u insist on the mistake, then that is haram.
And that is the truth of the matter, according to the Qur'an and the sunnah.
the opinion of the madhabs did change when the hadiths reached the scholars. the madhabs are not againsts the Quran & Sunnah. its not up to laymen like us to start interpreting hadith and coming up with our own rulings. if you want evidences for their opinions then we go to scholars, and they show us the proofs.
1. the opinion of the madhabs did change when the hadiths reached the scholars -> of course, but remember some not all hadiths reached all of them!! like the wudu thing!
2. its not up to laymen like us to start interpreting hadith and coming up with our own rulings -> if a hadith says u can kiss a woman, u don't need to be shaykhul islam.
3. we go to scholars, and they show us the proofs -> n what if they didn't reach a proof for the contrary?
@karamuslim On your 2nd point - there are things that are pretty clear cut in the hadith and there are things such as salah, and other detailed matters right to the bone. We can't start interpreting those by our own understandings - you must be qualified.
Im not saying you need to restrict yourself to a madhab, if you hav the desire to go learn all the books of hadiths, learn the Quran, learn the methods of interpretations, learn the debate of the Ulama, then do it, stop working, go study for 20 years, then come back.
But this is for those who wish to take advantage of the blessings Allah bestowed upon us to make our lives much easier.
Forgive me if i upset any of you with any of my comments
So as an indivitual you wont be able to do it, but as a group of Ulama who have over 400 years of experience derived, checked, re-checked, argued, thought, discussed over 400 years, how this law should be derived, those are the people that understand exactly how the Quran and Sunnah should be intrepreted.
99.9% scholars, over the majority of our time, themself folowed a madhab, if the scholars found a neccessaty to follow one of the madhabs, then who are we??
These Ulama studied hundreds of books, Imam Bukhari himself said i myself knew 1,00,000 sahih hadith but i only compiled so many in my book. Imam Muslim has similar statements.
And this is why we have tonnes of books of hadith, and many of them are just as sahih but we do not have them in bukhari.
And on top of that you need to interpret Bukhari in the light of all the other hadith and Quran aswel.
When we say we follow the madhab of Imam Abu Hanifa, we DONT mean we follow Imam Abu Hanifa.. He came up with these series of principles, and amongst him thousands of Ulama then took these principles, and applied them to the Quran and hadith and deduced these from them..
We are not leaving the Quran and Hadith, we are interpreting the Quran and Hadith.
I can't believe it when people criticise or disrespect the knowledge, Hikma and wisdom of the Imams, subhaan'Allah, Allah bestowed his blessings and mercy upon these Imams, gave them the strenght to sacrifice their entire lives in the struggle of deen, these are the people that did not sleep as the love for the deen would attract them. Isnt it enough for us to know that Allah has gifted these Imams with such that maybe none of us could or have got???
Never had Rasulullah SAW mentioned anything about the 4 Imam and never there are there any directive from our Prophet SAW that we should follow any one of them
Allah SWT is commanding you to follow the ahlul Cilm. All the Imams before us (Imam nawawi, Imam suyuti ...... you name it) all followed madhab. Until came the time of Abdul whab who said just what you have said.
read the video info (top right hand corner), the brother just wrote it 4 u. Surat Nisa ayat 59. it says follow "...those of you who are in authority" - Ibn Abbas RA has translated to be ahlul cilm. wat more do u want.
"Ulil Amri min Kum" does not mean ahlul cilm ...check you arabic gramma and where that you get that Ibnu Abbas said that brother, dont lie on the tounge of the shabah ...hell is where you be
Fine you tell me what does "Ulil Amri min Kum" mean?. Blieve me or dont blieve me, check tafsiir ibn kathiir regarding what cabdulahi ibn abaas RA said about it.
When a fly falls in a cup of milk what should one do? When a fly falls in juice or in soup, or in water...which SAHIH hadeeth does he use to explain this matter...or should we throw away a pot of cooked food if a fly falls into it? If he uses Qiyaas than he has broken his rule of following only Quran and Hadith. I challenge him to a debate in this subject matter.
He also poses the dilemma of either following the quran and sunnah or the scholars of the past (i.e. Imam's of the Madhabs). This is a false dilemma. What other than the qurand and sunnah were the Imams of the madhabs following?
While madhab of the prophet (saw) sounds very attractive, it doesn't really make sense. Madhab is a "way", a methodology and system that leads us to the understanding of how to practice our islam. The madhabs leads us to the practice of the prophet (saw). So if you're following the madhab of the prophet, then where are you inevitably going?
Even if we accept this new madhab, what next? A new reinterpretation of quran and sunnah in exchange for the 100,000s of pious scholars of the past?
He wants to prove that their can only be one madhhab then he reads that hadith. In the hadith the sahaba differed on the interpretations based on the language so why cant the madhhabs?
you didn't understand him - difference in interpretation is allowed - the one who is correct gets 2 rewards, the other one 1 reward.
difference in authority - i.e. you follow a certain mathab of an imam - though you know sahih hadith that says differently - it is not allowed to follow the opinion - even of a great scholar, an imam or even a sahaba. (example of umra in month of hajj).
so when you say "you saw sahih hadith then follow the hadith not the madhab", its like u saying that the Imam never knew the hadith, dont u know that the Imams are the teachers of the hadith scholars. if you say they might make mistake because they are human - in tht case its followers (such as Imam nawawi) would have not supported the imaam, he would have say "My imaam made mistake", They back up their Imaan. Every Imaan used to have Madhab until came the time of Moahmmed Abdul Whab.
great scholars of old, such as imam al bukhari followed the opinion of one madhab in a certain field of islam, like in fiqh and following another madhab in another field - they follow the opinion they think has the strongest proof - for if you have proof that muhammad (s.a.s.) said one thing, and the opinion of the madhab is different, you have to follow the hadith (if you understand it and have certain knowledge) - otherwise your prophet is a founder of madhab and not muhammad (s.a.s.) -careful
the four imams' filed are pure fiqh. Imam Bukhari was shaafici - meaning that he followed the understanding of Imam Shaafici in the filed of fiqh. The whole point of madhab is to follow the way they understanded a hadith/quran - not the way you understand - or else we will end up 100000 different opinions. All the great Imams (like Imam suyti) could have created his own madhab - but noooooooo, he followed shaafici.
I dont want to spend ramadan discussing these issues. Its not about differences of opinion- that was there with the first generation of Muslims. What Bilal phillips doesnt tell you is how the ulemma come to certain rulings whilst knowing the opposing arguments. its easy to criticise. How do you reconcile "Athar" and "narration"? read Imam Tahawi's "kitab Mushkillatul Aathar" What is "Muttarib"? see the latest post as well.
brother kad, you dont seem to have described usool al fiqh in your posts. have you read the rissalah of imam shafiee? it was the written first book on the subject of usool al fiqh. or any other "usool al fiqh" manual for that matter.
obviously its hard to describe the usool in 500 characters i tries to give small examples. but what can i say many ppl dont understand this dawah bt at the end of the day as bilal says in this video there is only 1 deen in truth. not 4 spokes on the wheel! but like i said before the islamic Aqeeda should be the focus of the awaam at first because really apart from the ahlul hadith who can we say has a clean Aqeeda!
lol akhis stop arguing .. the way is clear .. the truth is clear .. the aya the brother posted in the info section pretti much sums up everything:
"O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end."
this video is about fiqh generally bt the most important issue for every muslim is the Aqeeda of ISLAM. we can differ on fiqh no problem as long as we choose a legitimate path but we should be united upon the correct Aqeeda. unfortunatley many spend great time going thru the ins and outs of fiqh bt it will mean nothing as the aqeeda was baatil and contained shirk.
bt genrally bro its depends wat hadiths u talk about bcos in things like for eg sumtym prophet raised hands evrytime in salah then anuda hadith says he only raised for opening takbir. which do we follow? the answer is either or both of them if the narrations are authentic then you are commanded to follow. and that is the menhaj of sahih u can follow either way as long as its an authentic and legitmate path. bt generally they say the affirmative takes precedence over the negatory.
further more the prophet saw states in famous hadith that there nothing i have left out for my ummah that would be benificial to them in this deen. adherance to a madhab was not from the the prophets sunnah or commandm neither from the companions neither from Allahs commands. what Allah does command is to obey ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER. any one who says that adherance to abu hannefa etc is fard in the deen then verily they have created a command that neither Allah or prophet has not made = BIDAH!
ok, that good. so where exactly do u stand on this issue. i only said that bcos there are many ignorant ppl who preach madhab as fard and the taqleed and rigidity on their madhab has left them ignorant and they do not seek knowledge about the deen. rather they take every opinion of their madhab as the haq!
I follow a madhhab, because in the madhhab hundreds of scholars worked together for centuries, checking the usul and positions of the school. When an Imam said "if the hadith is authentic, then this is my madhhab" it means that his students and their students, etc. kept doing research of the Quran and authentic Sunnah, to make sure that the fiqh of the madhhab follows it and does not go against it. Following a madhhab does not mean following everything the Imam of the school said.
point all four imamns (may Allah bless them) made was that a authentic hadith is far more superior then an opinion. An authentic hadith, is the truth, but need to confirm with a scholar, to know for certain, that it was not abbrograted etc, as well as for the scholar to make us understand.
Of course all four imams RA agreed that if theres a authentic hadith that its superior to their opinions. But they said this to the mujtahids who followed their usul. And so the mujtahids in each school upgraded each of the 4 respective schools making sure that the rulings are based on authentic hadiths. After centuries of upgrading, each school arived at the strogest positions according to each schools usul, and some of those positions are diferent than the original Imam of the school. : )
Now if another group comes and says: "well this school doesn't follow this hadith which is authentic, so they're wrong, and so you have to abandon their madhhab" then they must know that the mujtahids of that school didn't accept it because according to their usul its not acceptable. To force acceptance of the hadith upon that school means that those people have applied a method that none of the 4 schools recognizes, & have devised their own ijtihad, which makes it no more closer to the truth.
Its basically another school of fiqh. If there is a group of "scholars" who say they can assess the positions of every school and "take the position of the school which closest to Quran and authentic Sunnah" well then they must know the unique methodology of each school and judge each position accordingly. This is no more than ijtihad,& its equally as infallible as the 4 schools
It comes down to trusting which ijtihad is the strongest and soundest.I personally prefer the ijtihad of the 4schools
i agree, the ulemma never said i am doing exactly what Allah and the Messenger, peace be upon him, has asked us to do. this would go against the language of fiqh (Fahama), bilal phillips hasnt understood this, hence why a fiqhi ruling of "shirk in tashahud" is attributed to him and his madhab.
well bilal phillips doesn't agree with people following a madhab, so he is challenging the status quo, so just be aware of that when you watch his stuff, it is meant to confuse you.
but did not ash-shafii and imam hanafi rule based on the Quran and sunnah? Or are they the people who ruled by anything against the Quran and sunnah (and are accordingly... read surah an-nisaa)
indeed they did bro and they did ijtihad with what they had but as we know today none of the 4 imams were infalliable and they made many mistakes and thats no disrepect to them bcos for every judgement they made wrong they still get a reward as stated in the famous hadith. but the practice of taqleed and the formation on these shcools came in the 5th century of islam, thats 400 years after the prophet and his companions so theres no compulsion at all to blindly follow nor is it even recommended
no one said that there is compulsion to blindly follow Nor does anyone recommend it.
And of course the practice of taqlid and formation of these schools came in the 5th centruy of Islam, it was then that the Mujtahid imams codified the Shari'a in the best way they could. No one said they are infallible, thats why they told their students to not follow their opinions, but to follow the authentic hadiths- and the reason was to upgrade and correct the mistakes and arrive closer to the truth.
and the problem with muslims today who watch these videos is that they claim to be on the madhab of the Rasul and that all other people are wrong. They will tell you their views and they dont even know the arguments for or against their position. This even extends to what is shirk and kufr, it leads to arrogance, and it creates a rigid strain of thinking that is the antithesis of what the salaf did.
i agree with you there are ignorant people out there in this minhaj who lack the correct aklaaq. but of course the companions were on the madhab(WAY) of rasool.the differences they had amongst themselves were accepted by rasoolullah eg- banu quraida therfore they are still within the same way - that which was practiced or allowed by prophet. its the issue of taking an opinion of a imam or madhab over the authentic sunnah were the danger lies. we should all accept anything wich prophet gave us.
does madhab mean "way"? I dont disagree with anything you said, except your assumption that the people who follow a madhab follow the ulemma over the sunnah which is a lie made by some people and those who blindly follow them. The question is: what do we do when two sahih hadiths conflict with one another- does this imply both are acceptable? can we discern them according to one's situation? is one hadith to be preferred over another in all circumstances? not even bilal says to "Accept anything"
the ulema of this menhaj make deductions from all authentic narrations where as the scholars of a madhab will only judge in accordance to what their line of shcolars have collected as their policy tends to be you cant pick and choose from frm diff madhabs. if hadiths conflict the full context of the narration is considered and corresponded to the actions of the sahaba how they understood it, how they acted upon this, sometimes things were abbrogated and no longer practiced etc
You said: the ulema of this menhaj make deductions from all authentic narrations where as the scholars of a madhab will only judge in accordance to what their line of shcolars have collected as their policy tends to be you cant pick and choose from frm diff madhabs. What you DIDN"T point out is that each madhhab has a differing legal methodology. SO the scholars of a madhhab do their own ijtihad to decide what are authentic narrations and what are not. ( to be cont.)
They don't make taqlid of the muhadiths, and take everything which a particular muhadith says is authentic. Part of ijtihad is checking the sanads and the texts, to see if it is acceptable to apply as a ruling. So in light of this, the Ulama who partake in the usul of the madhhabs also make deductions from authentic narations. The madhhabs agree in 75% of their positions, and all aggreement is based on dalil qati'i( undisputible proofs) (tbc.)
Where the disagreement arise is in the dalail zanni,which are subject to criticism of the chains, or texts, of hadiths or in interprepation due to the nature of language- some words are open to different interpretations. Now, when it comes to the 25% of the rulings which the 4 schools differ on, to take from the 4 schools and pick and choose with disregard for the differing methodologies of those schools and mixing rulings is to commit TALFIQ, mixing rulings in a way that no schools accept.
you are not of the ulemma of "this" manhaj so how do you know whether they have utilised "ALL authentic narrations"? akhi this is about confronting your nafs, and your nafs is telling you that you are right and everyone else is wrong. study what the ulemma have written and ask yourself: "what are the arguments in their favour, arguments against them, and how they respond to the arguments against them".
no bro im not sayin evy1 is wrong (quite an unfair assumption really but i forgive u fisibillah!) i was just giving the basic outline of this asool of fiqh.i was attempting to clear the misconception that many have of the so called "evil wahabis" who follow Allahs command of obeying him and the messenger unconditionally. personally i dont treat any1 different if they follow madhab or are ahlul hadiths or watever, wer only gna be asked about the knowledge we had and whether we acted accordingly.
if you dont treat anyone differently, if you recognise that people can understand the usool differently and the fiqh derived from sharia differently, then that is all that is required of you. thank you for your forgiveness (i was referring to your nafs). I did not say anything about the "evil wahabis" but you can look up the position of the ulemma (who are not all corrupted as some people think) on some of their beliefs written a long long long time ago.
When 2 Sahih hadiths conflict, u need to look at the time period when the hadith was said. Because is the hadith is about the same issue, then the 'new' or the latter hadith abrogates the old hadith.
and is it that simple or are there other mechanisms for resolving the conflict? A prophet does not make contradictions- but where we find something that is on the face value contradictory- the ulemma have sought to resolve them using several "tools". Okay- what if you get two sahih hadiths and there is no way you can say one is more stronger than the other?? I wont tell you the answer- the trouble with us these days is that the ulemma have written on these text and we have not read them
Or, if the ahadith were at the same period of time, then u look at the 'original' saying. For example, some people say that u dont need 2 read surah fatiha behind th imam, but the prophet (saw) said, 'no prayer is valid without surah fatiha' so this is the original saying. insha'allah this can help. =]
okay, and what is the daleel of those who say "you don't have to recite the fatiha?" how do they argue their view point- taking into account the above hadith? Or were they ignorant of the above hadith? We are talking about the Ulemma who have memorised hundreds of thousands of hadiths to a million hadiths- did they miss that hadith? if you want a more detailed explanation i'll write it with references. i am not a knowledgeable person- who has studied with a view to achieving a sanad.
Sorry brother....I kinda don't understand what ur saying. My main point is that people shudnt b Muqualid's (blind followers) of their madhabs, becoz even these 4 great Imams said that when a hadith is found Sahih, it is their madhab and we shud leave their teaching. We should upgrade ourselves and be Mutabi's, people who look at the evidence, or shieks or ppl who hav da knowledge of the deen.
no i understand what you are saying, i just dont agree that to discern between competing hadiths is as simple as you put it out- given the 750 words or so you could use i understand you were limited, but still it is not that simple. i'll give you a classical reference book later if you want to get more into it.
Yer, i agree with you that it aint simple to discern between hadiths. That's why am saying that we need the help of scholars, and the 4 great Imams, but we shudnt blind follow them. And can u gimme da reference book thing, thanx. Jazakallah Khair
How much have you studied Usul-Al Fiqh ? There is a difference between Fiqh, and shar'i rulings and the Usul from which they have come from. And who is "they" in your post?
"They" are the scholars. People think if there is a difference of opinion between scholars, it's only because of different views. They also think every opinion is a correct opinion. This is incorrect and can be easily disproved. And I think bilal philips did an excellent job in this video.
And why give me the catagories? How does that relate?
this comes after the latest post. How do you reconcile two sahih hadiths that you cant prove whether one is better than the other? Ibn Hajar Asqalani - the amirul mu'mineen of hadith used the term "muttarib" to decide it- what is that? Something that you dont know is that the madhabs dont follow the opinions of one scholar but what the majority of scholars have decided, and that the opinions of earlier scholars are often replaced by later opinions: "opinon of the madhab".
Again, that's another option, if hadieths seem to give different rulings, but that's not the ONLY reason. sometimes, they're opinion is clearly uncorrect, by an error. they're humans.
Ex, Abu Hanefa(ra) said sea food is Haram. He used the Hadieth that dead meat is haram. But there's a clear sahih hadieth, where he said all food from the sea is Halal. And there is a Ijma' that sea food is halal, which is an evidence.
Ijma is an agreement of the scholars at any given point in time. But there's no need for Ijma, to think of it, the hadieth is as clear as ice.
see, he took the hadieth that dead meat is haram. so he has a daleel. But...he was unaware at the moment that the messenger(pbuh) said that everything in the sea is halal for us.
i did watch it, well a while back, i think we need to concentrate on ramadan for now brother, we both have a lot of studying to do on this topic, so that we don't argue from our nafs. Maybe i am making this statement because my nafs has been quenched by fasting. Alhamdulilah. Next time you come across a scholar from say, Syria or Jordan, or yemen or africa or india or malaysia- give them the proofs Br Phillips gives, and see their response. wassalamu alaykum.
thanks for your invite as a friend, i'll add you shortly- was really busy, tried to apply for a mock UN model in china (its free to go! :) and i've been entering all kinds of comps - alhamdulilah, Ramadan is here, i'll speak to you after Ramadan.
no one is saying that its fard to follow a madhab. there is no such thing as a madhab of Rassullah sallalahu alayhi wassalam- if there was, then why did the companions differ over certain practices? were they not on this madhab? What about Bilal phillips's alleged madhab of saying that there's shirk in tashahud? None of the salaf ever said that. This is dangerous stuff; if he wants to go with his limited understanding of "Quran" and "sunnah" then that is his choice.
thats is the way the sahaba read after prophet died.that is how the sahaba understood it so we should take their understanding as the prophet said hold to my sunnah and the sunnah of my companions! but generally scholars say both are acceptable bt this is the way of bilals menhaj wich is to follow the quran & sunnah with the understanding of the salaf. indeed no1 said it shirk bt they stoppd readin it that way after prophet died so u work it out¬
clearly you haven't seen the videos the brother has made that have confused many muslims, just look up "shirk in tashahud". but the ulemma have said that if ignorant people like us were to stop arguing, then this will end all disagreements. and this came from the salaf ulemma- because there have always been people like you and me who purport to be the mouthpieces of scholarship. wassalams
pray as you see me pray, and he tought us to say Ya ayuaha Nabiyu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakhatuhu. And in Islam we do as he SAAWS commanded, what he commanded comes before what other examples are out there. Do you not agree? there is consensus by the Ulama of the schools on this.
La hawla wa la quwwata ila bilLah about the shaykhs comments about Urwa. Urwa made it apparant that just as ibn Abass had a position based on Sunnah, that Abu Bakr and Umar held other positions based on the Sunnah. Perhaps from another incident, or a different interpretation, or based on their ijtihad due to change of conditions which called for the need for it. What the Shaykhs ideology doesn't allow him to see is that Abu Bakr and Umar's positions are based on the Sunnah.
Rasulullah SalaAllauh Alayhi wa Salam instructed to follow the Sunnah of the Rightly guided Khalifs. To criticize Urwa the Tabi, the Salaf and accusing him of the Sunnah for the opinions of someone else is a dangerous error. Does the shaykh understand Islam better than Urwa, the Tabi, the Salaf????
what a great speech!
59700306 7 months ago
amazing video
Naive991 9 months ago
"Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect."
sallu alan nabi
اللهم صلي على محمد و على آله محمد
faiezzz 11 months ago
JAZAKALLAH KHAIRAN
abudujana13 1 year ago
so shud we follow 1 imam, or all of them ? and take out the authentic hadeeth from each ?
mo4lifeloz 1 year ago
@mo4lifeloz
comparitive fiqh to analyze why the scholars came to their decisions based on their evidences
malik used customs of madenites, hanafi only used manshoor, shafi accepted all authentic etc.
all of them are are right and wrong in many cases, none are infallible, its depending on the hadiths that were available in their area and time
dont marginalize yourself to one imam, research their evidences as they told us too
marcelcol69 1 year ago
@marcelcol69 Lol Malik used the Quran and the hadith and the custom of Madinites, the Hanafis used the Quran and the hadith and logic, example, in Hanafi madhab you don't have to read the surah Al-Fatihah because not all companions knew how to read Al-Fatihah( I mean the muallaf) and the Prophet SAW allows it. So, Imam Abu hanifah used this theory and made a fatwa that Al-Fatihah is not compulsory.
girocraz 1 year ago
Theres the Angels, Jinns, Mankind, Animals etc .. All differemt races
sniperkills90 1 year ago
i love you brother dr bilal phillip and i believe that you are a smart man, but the human being is NOT a race, it is a specie.
Conspiracyknowledge 1 year ago
@Conspiracyknowledge ..Yes it is a race..Theres human,s animals, insects...etc
sniperkills90 1 year ago
@sniperkills90 lol okey then.
Conspiracyknowledge 1 year ago
listen to akhi listen listen
abolur75 1 year ago
Imam Muslim(Shaafi) RA, Imam Abu Dawood(Hanbali), Imam Nawawi RA (Shaafi), Waqiah ibn jamah (Hanafi), Abdullah ibn Mubarak (Master of Ahadeeth - Hanafi). So umm I confused were these excellent scholars RA not following the way OF Rasool SAW?
precog1986 1 year ago
Imam Muslim(Shaafi) RA, Imam Abu Dawood(Hanbali), Imam Nawawi RA (Shaafi), Waqiah ibn jamah (Hanafi), Abdullah ibn Mubarak (Master of Ahadeeth - Hanafi). So umm I confused were these excellent scholars RA not following the way od Rasool SAW?
precog1986 1 year ago 14
@precog1986
They were muqalid, they were mujtahid. Who had got reason to follow a madhab with their judgment not blind followers. Scholars like Ibn Taymiyya and Ibn Abdul Wahab were Hanbali scholars but they were not blind followers. They were the gave concept of going back to authetic sunnah of prophets.
ubaid88 1 year ago
@precog1986
salaam alekum. i suggest you read "evolution of fiqh" by bilal philips
hassan691987 1 year ago
@hassan691987 i heard that is a brilliant book
mademan4life 1 year ago
@hassan691987 Subhnana Allah, I am reading it now... very good book, mashaAllah
umUmar1 6 months ago
@precog1986 , thats exactly my confusion? Can anyone comment on this please :)
wajahatkhan 1 year ago
@precog1986 they were following the right path but they were not blind followers.they didd have theirr own opinions
ganerexpert 5 months ago
@precog1986
Imam Muslim, Abu Dawood, Nawawi and the other great people were not muqallids and they didnt follow a scholar blindly. It should be noted that most of them were Mujtahids and Mujtahids are not muqallids, secondly it should be noted that we shouldnt insert the terms "shafee" "hanbali" etc to their names coz they ddnt do so. Some of them infact did so and they were asked if they were muqallids and they sad "NO", its just that our opinions match their opinions. I hope this info helps
LifewithAllah 2 months ago in playlist Islam
and then what the scholars said in regards to each ahadeeth and then decide which sahaaba was the more rightly guided one and then which scholar was more rightly guided ourselves and so on and so forth..... And then take our own meaning on how to do a Certain thing. SURELY THIS WOULD CREATE MORE PROBLEMS AND SPLITS IN OUR UMMAH?
precog1986 1 year ago
Does this Mean that we should all pick up collectively all the books of hadeeth, and decide ourselvelves which are sahih, which are good and the finally which are daeef(weak). And then understand the context and then the time of revelation, and then who it was referring to and then how the sahabaa (as) interpreted them,
precog1986 1 year ago
No, we are not scholars, we are to seek knowledge from the scholars whom Allah Most High has given a position of responsibility to help us learn and give rulings.If you are sincere Allah will guide you as He is The Guide.
aslamartnet 1 year ago
God bless you all brothers and sisters in Allah sack , Masha Allah good lecturer right their well done , May Allah put us all in his path and his prophet Mohamed path Amen
Maman594 2 years ago
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shadieqa1 2 years ago
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Synergistik 2 years ago
mashaallah dr bilal philips he is the best english scholars i ever hear so far may aallah grant him janat aafirdawss ameen
carloschico1968 2 years ago 2
Salaam
First of all i have the utmost respect for brother Bilal and enjoy his lectures as he always has good things to say and i believe he is and has contributed to Islam immensely.
However at around 24:25 in this video he is outlining the intentions of differences between the Sahaba which are both valid and yet different in action. Although i don't really follow any particular Madhab nevertheless that is how the great scholars of the four Madhabs differed on certain rulings....interesting.
as160494 2 years ago 3
Mr adams you need help how could call dr bilal a big jahil you cant just follow a mathab blindly he has an alot of knowledge through the quran and sunnah do tawbah repent so Allah swt can forgive what you said i don't see any of your lectures on youtube
22212220 2 years ago
Subhan'Allah,you are a 100 % right,these men were highly respected imams and scholars,but following them blindly is not something you could call correct,example you are born in an islamic country where they have the hanafi madhhab,how can you of these pratices were indeed of the Prophet sallAllahu alayhi wa salam,so doing some research and thinking about it can get you really far in islam insh'Allah.
SamirTuber 2 years ago
*how can you guarantee that these practices.....
SamirTuber 2 years ago
pls liston carefully
mhbablu 2 years ago
Only in the last century this call to abandon the madhab's has come from the ghair mukallid sect. Plz read Shaikh Ramadhan Albouti's La-madhabiyah for further guidance.
MrAdam775 2 years ago
Brother Adam, no one who knows knowledge says leave your Madhab, but to keep an open mind to the strongest opinion based on proof not personality. I am Hanafi but I wipe over my cotton socks which most Hanifi's do not.May Allah Most Wise guide us,ameen.
aslamartnet 2 years ago
title of talk itself implies that madhab of prophet (s.a.w) and the 4 recognised school of islamic jurisprudence are different things. Sunnis follow the madhab based on the principle of the imams (i.e. Hanafi, Shafi etc). For example in the hanafi madhab we have rulings that are based on other mujtahid imams research like Imam Muhammad Abu Yusuf and not Imam Abu Hanifah's (AGAINST his ijtihad) .
MrAdam775 2 years ago
We follow the scholars that learned from the tabiun who learned from the sahaba who was taught by the master himself. Alhamdulliah we do not need Bilal Philips to tell us sunnis who to follow be it albani, bin baaz or other government endorsed personalities.
MrAdam775 2 years ago
will you also follow the fatwa given by any imam that contradicts with hadeeth??
ihatereality94 2 years ago
Madhab's have been codified /authenticated by scholars in the subsequent centuries. Thats why they are preserved to this day and will remain so till the day of judgement inshallah. Sunnah by a layperson (non-mujtadi) cannot be correctly followed without following a recognised madhab. Thats why throughout the centuries the people of sunnah have always followed one of the 4 madhabs.
MrAdam775 2 years ago
there is no where written in hadeeth or quran that follow a particular imam or any 4 imam.. the 4 imams were greatest scholars of all time but they said if their fatwa contradicts with any sahih hadeeth then dont act upon my fatwa...its so simple why are we all fighting then..
ihatereality94 2 years ago
Bismillah,I like your comment. Allahu Akbar.
smilecheeseklik 2 years ago 3
this man is a big jahil. He does not seem to know anything about the islamic laws of fiqh. He should really study under recognised scholars like sh. Yaqubi, sh. keller, sh, hamza or sh zaid shakir. May allah guide him and me towards the truth.Ameen!!!!
MrAdam775 2 years ago
if you know much then produce any video provided by authentic hadith to prove yourself??
ihatereality94 2 years ago
Please remove your comment Akhi as it makes you look bad no one else! You come here and disrespect a great Shaykh such as Bilal Philips just shows us how much knowledge you have!
Parvez86 2 years ago
May Allah give Dr Bilal a long life.
Vizzini25 2 years ago 2
Very good lecture! Subhanallah!
GoldieLP5 2 years ago
jazakallah
mohamed464 2 years ago 2
Excellent...
islamonly1 2 years ago 2
There were always differences of opinion right from the time of Prophet (SAW) and He did not believe such differences were harmful rather he said they were a MERCY upon the Ummah, so long as the differing opinions had some kind of evidence. An example is the famous incident about the Asr salah that occurred after the Battle of the Trench. Where some Sahabis delayed the prayer (made it Qaza) and some didnt and the Prophet said they are all right.
mujahid313 2 years ago
If we abandon the madhabs then this creates thousands of pseudo schools, as each person begins to carve out his own Deen from the Holy Quran and Sunna. This will be inevitable because each person, will deduct rulings from the Quran and Sunna, yet not have the skills, nor the mastery over the Islamic sciences coupled with the Taqwa that is required for a proper authentic interpretation of the Deen (which the four Imams had at the optimum level).
mujahid313 2 years ago
Whoever doesn't have knowledge should ask, as God says:
'Ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know' [21:7]
However, this is no excuse for rejecting a hadith which reaches you and which missed your Imam or shaykh, while following him blindly. This is the issue:
' "come to what Allah hath revealed; come to the Messenger": they say: "Enough for us are the ways we found our fathers following" ' [5:104]
The Prophet said: '...arrogance is rejecting the truth...' [Tirmidhi]
karamuslim 2 years ago
The fact is that nearly all the Ummah followed one of the four famous schools of law for over a thousand years. It is right to follow one of these schools as they are headed by the greatest scholars this Ummah has ever produced who, through rigorous research, and discussions, formulated basic principles and produced detailed rulings in a very systematic way which were refined further by the later scholars in each Madhab.
mujahid313 2 years ago
All madhabs are correct because the differences that occur between are due to the variant Usool they employ in interpreting text.
For example; Imam Malik accepts the practice of the people of Medina of his time and considers it stronger than the solitary hadith, Imam Abu Hanifa does not allow a solitary hadith to over a verse of the Quran, Imam Shafi rejects the Mursal hadith,
and Imam Ahmad accepts the use of a Daeef hadith in places with various conditions.
mujahid313 2 years ago
Don't forget that they differed also because some ahadith didn't reach them. If they reach you, u'r OBLIGED to follow it!
Shafi'i said: "The sunnahs of the Messenger of Allaah reach, as well as escape from, every one of us. So whenever I voice my opinion, or formulate a principle, where something contrary to my view exists on the authority of the Messenger of Allaah, then the correct view is what the Messenger of Allaah has said, and it is my view."
karamuslim 2 years ago
this s matematically impossible, to say ALL MADHHABS ARE CORRECT. as bilal brought the example, one of them thought that wudu is broken for (simply) touching a woman. but there's a hadith in which the prophet kissed his wives and then prayed. The hadith didn't reach this Imam, he is not guilty of it. However, the ruling is WRONG. It is haram for u, if you get to know this hadith, to insist believin that a kiss to ur wife breaks ur wudu.
the dfferences in usul are not the whole thing.
karamuslim 2 years ago
I dont follow the Shafii madhab so I dont know how they came up with that ruling. But if you want you can always go their scholars for the evidences.
mujahid313 2 years ago
of course 'm no t saying it's haram to follow an imam, i'm saying once u have an evidence some of them missed (i'm not talking about when the opinion is dfferent but when the evidence didn't reach the imam) u have no right to reject it n keep on following blindly what ur shaykh said.
if u go to scholars for evidences, and one of them missed and evidence... what evidence is he going to give u?
karamuslim 2 years ago
I see where your mixed up.
you wrongly think that the madhabs didnt change their opinions after the Imams had passed away. what I'm telling you is that they did change their opinion later, the scholars that came after recieved different evidences and changed the opinion.
and how can scholars miss evidence. have you got some secret collection of sahih hadith that your not showing anyone? the same hadiths that me & you have got access to the scholars have, and they have a broader understanding.
mujahid313 2 years ago 3
1. i'm sure many opinions were changed, but there are some that are NOT, like the wudu thing. isn't it?
2. how can scholars miss evidence?!? do u think that the sihah as sittah were compiled by the prophet? do u think there was internet on the time of imam shafi'i? didn't u know that some students of knowledge had to cross around borders to find a hadith?
karamuslim 2 years ago
There are also many other Usuli/interpretive differences which can be found in their Usul books. So the reason for the differences are the way they interpret the sources, not because they didnt have other evidences. So if you ask a Hanafi scholar for evidences he will show you his proofs and will tell you why he doesnt use other proofs, the same with other madhabs.
mujahid313 2 years ago
Imams also make mistakes, as Imam Malik said: "Truly I am only a mortal: I make mistakes (sometimes) and I am correct (sometimes). Therefore, look into my opinions: all that agrees with the Book and the Sunnah, accept it; and all that does not agree with the Book and the Sunnah, ignore it."
karamuslim 2 years ago
The madhabs base their answers on Quran & Hadith and they take Islam from the righteous Salaf. The four Imams of the madhabs were part of the Salaf. Imam Abu Hanifa was a Tabien and the other three were Taba Tabien. They all derived rulings from the Quran and Sunnah but they differed on the method.
mujahid313 2 years ago
u'r right with the incident of the prayer!! does this mean that if i get a hadith which CELARLY states something, i reject it because my Imam didn't receive this hadith? La!!
by the way, the hadith "ikhtilaf ummati rahma" (the differences among my umma r a mercy) is FABRICATED.
karamuslim 2 years ago
the differences of opinion hadith is weak but it does have a basis. that same saying has been repeated by many classical scholars, including Imam Ibn Taymiyya who ghair-muqalids follow a lot.
mujahid313 2 years ago 3
yeah, i know.
but it's not the same when there's a difference on the grading and when it simply didn't reach, that's what I meant.
May God reward you.
karamuslim 2 years ago
akhi
I have to go now
this discussion is a never-ending one
Asalaamu Alaykum
mujahid313 2 years ago 2
all your reasoning is simply hypothetical. May Allah guide you
expozingislam 2 years ago
those men is not Muslims. they are mother fuckers that destroy Islams pure and noble image.
ModerSverige 2 years ago
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Allah's Messenger (SAW) said that whoever calls a Muslim a Kafir is himself a Kafir.
mujahid313 2 years ago
that is true. you should'nt use thsi words. In fact, if you don't have access to Quran n sunna it's not haram to follow the one with knowledge, as God says 'Ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know' [21:7]. The wrong thing is when you knowthey made a mistake, contraru to Q & Sunna and u reject it by your blind following. This is HARAM.
karamuslim 2 years ago
the hadiths that didnt reach them reached their students or later scholars, and thus the opinion of the madhabs changed over time. the madhabs do not go against Quran & Sunnah.
there are differences of opinions amoungst scholars, and theres nothing wrong with that. what is wrong is when people start saying any other opinion is haram
And its not up to a layman like us, just because we got access to quran and some hadiths, to go around interpreting the texts and coming up with our own rulings.
mujahid313 2 years ago
As u said some hdiths ddn't rech some, but you know that if an imam came to know a hadith which he didn't know, he inmediately applied it n changed his opinion, and this is the meaning of "they are not believers until they make you their judge in the disputes and then do not resist what you decide and submit themselves completely" [4:65].
karamuslim 2 years ago
So if an opinion is against the Sunna but the Imam didn't know it, it's not haram for him, as the Prophet said "If the judge makes ijtihaad and gets it right, he will have two rewards, and if he makes ijtihaad and gets it wrong, he will have one reward. (Bukhaari & Muslim).
But if u get to know the hadith which didn't reach him n u insist on the mistake, then that is haram.
And that is the truth of the matter, according to the Qur'an and the sunnah.
May God have mercy on you.
karamuslim 2 years ago
Did you read my comments before replying?
the opinion of the madhabs did change when the hadiths reached the scholars. the madhabs are not againsts the Quran & Sunnah. its not up to laymen like us to start interpreting hadith and coming up with our own rulings. if you want evidences for their opinions then we go to scholars, and they show us the proofs.
May Allah have mercy on us all.
mujahid313 2 years ago 3
1. the opinion of the madhabs did change when the hadiths reached the scholars -> of course, but remember some not all hadiths reached all of them!! like the wudu thing!
2. its not up to laymen like us to start interpreting hadith and coming up with our own rulings -> if a hadith says u can kiss a woman, u don't need to be shaykhul islam.
3. we go to scholars, and they show us the proofs -> n what if they didn't reach a proof for the contrary?
karamuslim 2 years ago
@karamuslim On your 2nd point - there are things that are pretty clear cut in the hadith and there are things such as salah, and other detailed matters right to the bone. We can't start interpreting those by our own understandings - you must be qualified.
ISMASHYOUBRO 11 months ago
WE, who find it difficult to wake up for fajr?
Im not saying you need to restrict yourself to a madhab, if you hav the desire to go learn all the books of hadiths, learn the Quran, learn the methods of interpretations, learn the debate of the Ulama, then do it, stop working, go study for 20 years, then come back.
But this is for those who wish to take advantage of the blessings Allah bestowed upon us to make our lives much easier.
Forgive me if i upset any of you with any of my comments
strivinfojannah 2 years ago
So as an indivitual you wont be able to do it, but as a group of Ulama who have over 400 years of experience derived, checked, re-checked, argued, thought, discussed over 400 years, how this law should be derived, those are the people that understand exactly how the Quran and Sunnah should be intrepreted.
99.9% scholars, over the majority of our time, themself folowed a madhab, if the scholars found a neccessaty to follow one of the madhabs, then who are we??
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strivinfojannah 2 years ago
These Ulama studied hundreds of books, Imam Bukhari himself said i myself knew 1,00,000 sahih hadith but i only compiled so many in my book. Imam Muslim has similar statements.
And this is why we have tonnes of books of hadith, and many of them are just as sahih but we do not have them in bukhari.
And on top of that you need to interpret Bukhari in the light of all the other hadith and Quran aswel.
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strivinfojannah 2 years ago
When we say we follow the madhab of Imam Abu Hanifa, we DONT mean we follow Imam Abu Hanifa.. He came up with these series of principles, and amongst him thousands of Ulama then took these principles, and applied them to the Quran and hadith and deduced these from them..
We are not leaving the Quran and Hadith, we are interpreting the Quran and Hadith.
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strivinfojannah 2 years ago
I can't believe it when people criticise or disrespect the knowledge, Hikma and wisdom of the Imams, subhaan'Allah, Allah bestowed his blessings and mercy upon these Imams, gave them the strenght to sacrifice their entire lives in the struggle of deen, these are the people that did not sleep as the love for the deen would attract them. Isnt it enough for us to know that Allah has gifted these Imams with such that maybe none of us could or have got???
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strivinfojannah 2 years ago
Another Wahabi stupidity!
dell1453 2 years ago
Never had Rasulullah SAW mentioned anything about the 4 Imam and never there are there any directive from our Prophet SAW that we should follow any one of them
nickapex66 2 years ago
Allah SWT is commanding you to follow the ahlul Cilm. All the Imams before us (Imam nawawi, Imam suyuti ...... you name it) all followed madhab. Until came the time of Abdul whab who said just what you have said.
qadiriya 2 years ago
Allah SWT command us to follow Allah and Rasullullah SAW, never as you said ahlul Ciim. I dont think you know what Madhab is.
nickapex66 2 years ago
lol - what if i get u the a verse from the quran where allah SWT says follow the ahlul cilm.
qadiriya 2 years ago
I really apreciate it if you can.
nickapex66 2 years ago
read the video info (top right hand corner), the brother just wrote it 4 u. Surat Nisa ayat 59. it says follow "...those of you who are in authority" - Ibn Abbas RA has translated to be ahlul cilm. wat more do u want.
qadiriya 2 years ago
"Ulil Amri min Kum" does not mean ahlul cilm ...check you arabic gramma and where that you get that Ibnu Abbas said that brother, dont lie on the tounge of the shabah ...hell is where you be
nickapex66 2 years ago
Fine you tell me what does "Ulil Amri min Kum" mean?. Blieve me or dont blieve me, check tafsiir ibn kathiir regarding what cabdulahi ibn abaas RA said about it.
qadiriya 2 years ago
Ulli Amri min Kum ...mean leaders among you . What page in Ibnu Katsir you find that Ibnu Abbas said that?
nickapex66 2 years ago
The quran + sunnah = true guidance. keep it simple, clean, honest and genuine. no complications and no innovations.
mafiamob2005 2 years ago 27
this guys is a misled fool... so all other than the mathabs are going to hell... hhhmm!
12imams 2 years ago
Brothers and Sisters please, we all may have disagreements in our understanding of Islam but can we not be respectful and kind while we do it?
You cannot blame someone when we ourselves are not acting as muslims (respectful, PATIENT, and kind).
SubmissiveDeen 3 years ago
Bilal Phillip should answer this simple question:
When a fly falls in a cup of milk what should one do? When a fly falls in juice or in soup, or in water...which SAHIH hadeeth does he use to explain this matter...or should we throw away a pot of cooked food if a fly falls into it? If he uses Qiyaas than he has broken his rule of following only Quran and Hadith. I challenge him to a debate in this subject matter.
sufinadeem 3 years ago
He also poses the dilemma of either following the quran and sunnah or the scholars of the past (i.e. Imam's of the Madhabs). This is a false dilemma. What other than the qurand and sunnah were the Imams of the madhabs following?
Synergistik 3 years ago
While madhab of the prophet (saw) sounds very attractive, it doesn't really make sense. Madhab is a "way", a methodology and system that leads us to the understanding of how to practice our islam. The madhabs leads us to the practice of the prophet (saw). So if you're following the madhab of the prophet, then where are you inevitably going?
Even if we accept this new madhab, what next? A new reinterpretation of quran and sunnah in exchange for the 100,000s of pious scholars of the past?
Synergistik 3 years ago
He proved himself wrong when he stated the hadith where the sahaba differd.
mainstreamIslam 3 years ago
how did he prove himself wrong?
Farhanizzle 3 years ago 5
He wants to prove that their can only be one madhhab then he reads that hadith. In the hadith the sahaba differed on the interpretations based on the language so why cant the madhhabs?
mainstreamIslam 3 years ago
you didn't understand him - difference in interpretation is allowed - the one who is correct gets 2 rewards, the other one 1 reward.
difference in authority - i.e. you follow a certain mathab of an imam - though you know sahih hadith that says differently - it is not allowed to follow the opinion - even of a great scholar, an imam or even a sahaba. (example of umra in month of hajj).
Salam
Lhaw06 3 years ago 5
so when you say "you saw sahih hadith then follow the hadith not the madhab", its like u saying that the Imam never knew the hadith, dont u know that the Imams are the teachers of the hadith scholars. if you say they might make mistake because they are human - in tht case its followers (such as Imam nawawi) would have not supported the imaam, he would have say "My imaam made mistake", They back up their Imaan. Every Imaan used to have Madhab until came the time of Moahmmed Abdul Whab.
qadiriya 2 years ago
great scholars of old, such as imam al bukhari followed the opinion of one madhab in a certain field of islam, like in fiqh and following another madhab in another field - they follow the opinion they think has the strongest proof - for if you have proof that muhammad (s.a.s.) said one thing, and the opinion of the madhab is different, you have to follow the hadith (if you understand it and have certain knowledge) - otherwise your prophet is a founder of madhab and not muhammad (s.a.s.) -careful
Lhaw06 2 years ago
the four imams' filed are pure fiqh. Imam Bukhari was shaafici - meaning that he followed the understanding of Imam Shaafici in the filed of fiqh. The whole point of madhab is to follow the way they understanded a hadith/quran - not the way you understand - or else we will end up 100000 different opinions. All the great Imams (like Imam suyti) could have created his own madhab - but noooooooo, he followed shaafici.
qadiriya 2 years ago
I dont want to spend ramadan discussing these issues. Its not about differences of opinion- that was there with the first generation of Muslims. What Bilal phillips doesnt tell you is how the ulemma come to certain rulings whilst knowing the opposing arguments. its easy to criticise. How do you reconcile "Athar" and "narration"? read Imam Tahawi's "kitab Mushkillatul Aathar" What is "Muttarib"? see the latest post as well.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
brother kad, you dont seem to have described usool al fiqh in your posts. have you read the rissalah of imam shafiee? it was the written first book on the subject of usool al fiqh. or any other "usool al fiqh" manual for that matter.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
obviously its hard to describe the usool in 500 characters i tries to give small examples. but what can i say many ppl dont understand this dawah bt at the end of the day as bilal says in this video there is only 1 deen in truth. not 4 spokes on the wheel! but like i said before the islamic Aqeeda should be the focus of the awaam at first because really apart from the ahlul hadith who can we say has a clean Aqeeda!
kad006 3 years ago
lol akhis stop arguing .. the way is clear .. the truth is clear .. the aya the brother posted in the info section pretti much sums up everything:
"O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end."
EstablishingTawheed 3 years ago
IM WITH THAT! LOL
kad006 3 years ago
yeah akhi .. its quran n sunnah and how the 3 pious genrations practicd it ... das it .. may allah guide us all ameen
EstablishingTawheed 3 years ago 2
AMEEN.barakallah feeq akhi, das it innit, case closed!
kad006 3 years ago
allah doesn't exist u bearded moron
mark77mr 3 years ago
what a stupid and ignorant statement. you're like a monkey, no, your even dumber.
lightuponlight87 3 years ago
this video is about fiqh generally bt the most important issue for every muslim is the Aqeeda of ISLAM. we can differ on fiqh no problem as long as we choose a legitimate path but we should be united upon the correct Aqeeda. unfortunatley many spend great time going thru the ins and outs of fiqh bt it will mean nothing as the aqeeda was baatil and contained shirk.
kad006 3 years ago
thank God this was not an aqeedah video. well done.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
bt genrally bro its depends wat hadiths u talk about bcos in things like for eg sumtym prophet raised hands evrytime in salah then anuda hadith says he only raised for opening takbir. which do we follow? the answer is either or both of them if the narrations are authentic then you are commanded to follow. and that is the menhaj of sahih u can follow either way as long as its an authentic and legitmate path. bt generally they say the affirmative takes precedence over the negatory.
kad006 3 years ago
further more the prophet saw states in famous hadith that there nothing i have left out for my ummah that would be benificial to them in this deen. adherance to a madhab was not from the the prophets sunnah or commandm neither from the companions neither from Allahs commands. what Allah does command is to obey ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER. any one who says that adherance to abu hannefa etc is fard in the deen then verily they have created a command that neither Allah or prophet has not made = BIDAH!
imz1066 3 years ago
No one said that we follow madhhabs because it is fard.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
ok, that good. so where exactly do u stand on this issue. i only said that bcos there are many ignorant ppl who preach madhab as fard and the taqleed and rigidity on their madhab has left them ignorant and they do not seek knowledge about the deen. rather they take every opinion of their madhab as the haq!
imz1066 3 years ago
I follow a madhhab, because in the madhhab hundreds of scholars worked together for centuries, checking the usul and positions of the school. When an Imam said "if the hadith is authentic, then this is my madhhab" it means that his students and their students, etc. kept doing research of the Quran and authentic Sunnah, to make sure that the fiqh of the madhhab follows it and does not go against it. Following a madhhab does not mean following everything the Imam of the school said.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
point all four imamns (may Allah bless them) made was that a authentic hadith is far more superior then an opinion. An authentic hadith, is the truth, but need to confirm with a scholar, to know for certain, that it was not abbrograted etc, as well as for the scholar to make us understand.
KU106 3 years ago
Of course all four imams RA agreed that if theres a authentic hadith that its superior to their opinions. But they said this to the mujtahids who followed their usul. And so the mujtahids in each school upgraded each of the 4 respective schools making sure that the rulings are based on authentic hadiths. After centuries of upgrading, each school arived at the strogest positions according to each schools usul, and some of those positions are diferent than the original Imam of the school. : )
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
Now if another group comes and says: "well this school doesn't follow this hadith which is authentic, so they're wrong, and so you have to abandon their madhhab" then they must know that the mujtahids of that school didn't accept it because according to their usul its not acceptable. To force acceptance of the hadith upon that school means that those people have applied a method that none of the 4 schools recognizes, & have devised their own ijtihad, which makes it no more closer to the truth.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
Its basically another school of fiqh
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
Its basically another school of fiqh. If there is a group of "scholars" who say they can assess the positions of every school and "take the position of the school which closest to Quran and authentic Sunnah" well then they must know the unique methodology of each school and judge each position accordingly. This is no more than ijtihad,& its equally as infallible as the 4 schools
It comes down to trusting which ijtihad is the strongest and soundest.I personally prefer the ijtihad of the 4schools
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
i agree, the ulemma never said i am doing exactly what Allah and the Messenger, peace be upon him, has asked us to do. this would go against the language of fiqh (Fahama), bilal phillips hasnt understood this, hence why a fiqhi ruling of "shirk in tashahud" is attributed to him and his madhab.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
Im soo confused
innit786 3 years ago
well bilal phillips doesn't agree with people following a madhab, so he is challenging the status quo, so just be aware of that when you watch his stuff, it is meant to confuse you.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
i agree with this guy, he speakin the truth. we cant abandon the quran and sunnah just because it aint related in a madhab of shafi or hanafi
imz1066 3 years ago 2
but did not ash-shafii and imam hanafi rule based on the Quran and sunnah? Or are they the people who ruled by anything against the Quran and sunnah (and are accordingly... read surah an-nisaa)
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
indeed they did bro and they did ijtihad with what they had but as we know today none of the 4 imams were infalliable and they made many mistakes and thats no disrepect to them bcos for every judgement they made wrong they still get a reward as stated in the famous hadith. but the practice of taqleed and the formation on these shcools came in the 5th century of islam, thats 400 years after the prophet and his companions so theres no compulsion at all to blindly follow nor is it even recommended
imz1066 3 years ago
no one said that there is compulsion to blindly follow Nor does anyone recommend it.
And of course the practice of taqlid and formation of these schools came in the 5th centruy of Islam, it was then that the Mujtahid imams codified the Shari'a in the best way they could. No one said they are infallible, thats why they told their students to not follow their opinions, but to follow the authentic hadiths- and the reason was to upgrade and correct the mistakes and arrive closer to the truth.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
and the problem with muslims today who watch these videos is that they claim to be on the madhab of the Rasul and that all other people are wrong. They will tell you their views and they dont even know the arguments for or against their position. This even extends to what is shirk and kufr, it leads to arrogance, and it creates a rigid strain of thinking that is the antithesis of what the salaf did.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
i agree with you there are ignorant people out there in this minhaj who lack the correct aklaaq. but of course the companions were on the madhab(WAY) of rasool.the differences they had amongst themselves were accepted by rasoolullah eg- banu quraida therfore they are still within the same way - that which was practiced or allowed by prophet. its the issue of taking an opinion of a imam or madhab over the authentic sunnah were the danger lies. we should all accept anything wich prophet gave us.
kad006 3 years ago
does madhab mean "way"? I dont disagree with anything you said, except your assumption that the people who follow a madhab follow the ulemma over the sunnah which is a lie made by some people and those who blindly follow them. The question is: what do we do when two sahih hadiths conflict with one another- does this imply both are acceptable? can we discern them according to one's situation? is one hadith to be preferred over another in all circumstances? not even bilal says to "Accept anything"
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
the ulema of this menhaj make deductions from all authentic narrations where as the scholars of a madhab will only judge in accordance to what their line of shcolars have collected as their policy tends to be you cant pick and choose from frm diff madhabs. if hadiths conflict the full context of the narration is considered and corresponded to the actions of the sahaba how they understood it, how they acted upon this, sometimes things were abbrogated and no longer practiced etc
kad006 3 years ago
You said: the ulema of this menhaj make deductions from all authentic narrations where as the scholars of a madhab will only judge in accordance to what their line of shcolars have collected as their policy tends to be you cant pick and choose from frm diff madhabs. What you DIDN"T point out is that each madhhab has a differing legal methodology. SO the scholars of a madhhab do their own ijtihad to decide what are authentic narrations and what are not. ( to be cont.)
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
They don't make taqlid of the muhadiths, and take everything which a particular muhadith says is authentic. Part of ijtihad is checking the sanads and the texts, to see if it is acceptable to apply as a ruling. So in light of this, the Ulama who partake in the usul of the madhhabs also make deductions from authentic narations. The madhhabs agree in 75% of their positions, and all aggreement is based on dalil qati'i( undisputible proofs) (tbc.)
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
Where the disagreement arise is in the dalail zanni,which are subject to criticism of the chains, or texts, of hadiths or in interprepation due to the nature of language- some words are open to different interpretations. Now, when it comes to the 25% of the rulings which the 4 schools differ on, to take from the 4 schools and pick and choose with disregard for the differing methodologies of those schools and mixing rulings is to commit TALFIQ, mixing rulings in a way that no schools accept.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
you are not of the ulemma of "this" manhaj so how do you know whether they have utilised "ALL authentic narrations"? akhi this is about confronting your nafs, and your nafs is telling you that you are right and everyone else is wrong. study what the ulemma have written and ask yourself: "what are the arguments in their favour, arguments against them, and how they respond to the arguments against them".
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
no bro im not sayin evy1 is wrong (quite an unfair assumption really but i forgive u fisibillah!) i was just giving the basic outline of this asool of fiqh.i was attempting to clear the misconception that many have of the so called "evil wahabis" who follow Allahs command of obeying him and the messenger unconditionally. personally i dont treat any1 different if they follow madhab or are ahlul hadiths or watever, wer only gna be asked about the knowledge we had and whether we acted accordingly.
kad006 3 years ago
if you dont treat anyone differently, if you recognise that people can understand the usool differently and the fiqh derived from sharia differently, then that is all that is required of you. thank you for your forgiveness (i was referring to your nafs). I did not say anything about the "evil wahabis" but you can look up the position of the ulemma (who are not all corrupted as some people think) on some of their beliefs written a long long long time ago.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
When 2 Sahih hadiths conflict, u need to look at the time period when the hadith was said. Because is the hadith is about the same issue, then the 'new' or the latter hadith abrogates the old hadith.
shamina07 3 years ago
and is it that simple or are there other mechanisms for resolving the conflict? A prophet does not make contradictions- but where we find something that is on the face value contradictory- the ulemma have sought to resolve them using several "tools". Okay- what if you get two sahih hadiths and there is no way you can say one is more stronger than the other?? I wont tell you the answer- the trouble with us these days is that the ulemma have written on these text and we have not read them
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
Or, if the ahadith were at the same period of time, then u look at the 'original' saying. For example, some people say that u dont need 2 read surah fatiha behind th imam, but the prophet (saw) said, 'no prayer is valid without surah fatiha' so this is the original saying. insha'allah this can help. =]
shamina07 3 years ago
okay, and what is the daleel of those who say "you don't have to recite the fatiha?" how do they argue their view point- taking into account the above hadith? Or were they ignorant of the above hadith? We are talking about the Ulemma who have memorised hundreds of thousands of hadiths to a million hadiths- did they miss that hadith? if you want a more detailed explanation i'll write it with references. i am not a knowledgeable person- who has studied with a view to achieving a sanad.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
Sorry brother....I kinda don't understand what ur saying. My main point is that people shudnt b Muqualid's (blind followers) of their madhabs, becoz even these 4 great Imams said that when a hadith is found Sahih, it is their madhab and we shud leave their teaching. We should upgrade ourselves and be Mutabi's, people who look at the evidence, or shieks or ppl who hav da knowledge of the deen.
shamina07 3 years ago
no i understand what you are saying, i just dont agree that to discern between competing hadiths is as simple as you put it out- given the 750 words or so you could use i understand you were limited, but still it is not that simple. i'll give you a classical reference book later if you want to get more into it.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
Yer, i agree with you that it aint simple to discern between hadiths. That's why am saying that we need the help of scholars, and the 4 great Imams, but we shudnt blind follow them. And can u gimme da reference book thing, thanx. Jazakallah Khair
shamina07 3 years ago
Didn't you listen to the lecture?
there are other reasons for diferrence of opinion.
-they could have been mistaken on the authenticity of the hadieth
-the hadieth didn't reach them(even if they know thousands)
-they made an incorrect ijtihad
-they're are different views
lightuponlight87 3 years ago
Assalamu alaykum.
How much have you studied Usul-Al Fiqh ? There is a difference between Fiqh, and shar'i rulings and the Usul from which they have come from. And who is "they" in your post?
ghostmanno12 3 years ago 2
Walakum Asalamu Warahmatallaahi wabarakatu.
"They" are the scholars. People think if there is a difference of opinion between scholars, it's only because of different views. They also think every opinion is a correct opinion. This is incorrect and can be easily disproved. And I think bilal philips did an excellent job in this video.
And why give me the catagories? How does that relate?
lightuponlight87 3 years ago
this comes after the latest post. How do you reconcile two sahih hadiths that you cant prove whether one is better than the other? Ibn Hajar Asqalani - the amirul mu'mineen of hadith used the term "muttarib" to decide it- what is that? Something that you dont know is that the madhabs dont follow the opinions of one scholar but what the majority of scholars have decided, and that the opinions of earlier scholars are often replaced by later opinions: "opinon of the madhab".
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
Again, that's another option, if hadieths seem to give different rulings, but that's not the ONLY reason. sometimes, they're opinion is clearly uncorrect, by an error. they're humans.
Ex, Abu Hanefa(ra) said sea food is Haram. He used the Hadieth that dead meat is haram. But there's a clear sahih hadieth, where he said all food from the sea is Halal. And there is a Ijma' that sea food is halal, which is an evidence.
lightuponlight87 3 years ago
okay, and how can there be ijma3a when there is ONE scholar from the salaf who has held that fish meat is haram? what does ijma3a mean to you?
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
Ijma is an agreement of the scholars at any given point in time. But there's no need for Ijma, to think of it, the hadieth is as clear as ice.
see, he took the hadieth that dead meat is haram. so he has a daleel. But...he was unaware at the moment that the messenger(pbuh) said that everything in the sea is halal for us.
& Allaah knows best
lightuponlight87 3 years ago
But I can't do a good of a job like he did in the video, please watch the whole video, he gave a solid argument.
lightuponlight87 3 years ago
i did watch it, well a while back, i think we need to concentrate on ramadan for now brother, we both have a lot of studying to do on this topic, so that we don't argue from our nafs. Maybe i am making this statement because my nafs has been quenched by fasting. Alhamdulilah. Next time you come across a scholar from say, Syria or Jordan, or yemen or africa or india or malaysia- give them the proofs Br Phillips gives, and see their response. wassalamu alaykum.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
thanks for your invite as a friend, i'll add you shortly- was really busy, tried to apply for a mock UN model in china (its free to go! :) and i've been entering all kinds of comps - alhamdulilah, Ramadan is here, i'll speak to you after Ramadan.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
OK, Insha'allah.
Wasalaam
shamina07 3 years ago
no one is saying that its fard to follow a madhab. there is no such thing as a madhab of Rassullah sallalahu alayhi wassalam- if there was, then why did the companions differ over certain practices? were they not on this madhab? What about Bilal phillips's alleged madhab of saying that there's shirk in tashahud? None of the salaf ever said that. This is dangerous stuff; if he wants to go with his limited understanding of "Quran" and "sunnah" then that is his choice.
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
thats is the way the sahaba read after prophet died.that is how the sahaba understood it so we should take their understanding as the prophet said hold to my sunnah and the sunnah of my companions! but generally scholars say both are acceptable bt this is the way of bilals menhaj wich is to follow the quran & sunnah with the understanding of the salaf. indeed no1 said it shirk bt they stoppd readin it that way after prophet died so u work it out¬
kad006 3 years ago
clearly you haven't seen the videos the brother has made that have confused many muslims, just look up "shirk in tashahud". but the ulemma have said that if ignorant people like us were to stop arguing, then this will end all disagreements. and this came from the salaf ulemma- because there have always been people like you and me who purport to be the mouthpieces of scholarship. wassalams
ghostmanno12 3 years ago
Rasulullah Salallah Alahi wa Salam said:
pray as you see me pray, and he tought us to say Ya ayuaha Nabiyu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakhatuhu. And in Islam we do as he SAAWS commanded, what he commanded comes before what other examples are out there. Do you not agree? there is consensus by the Ulama of the schools on this.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
mashaallah
klikiaa 3 years ago
Jazzak Allah khair...may allah bless you inshallah!
sahra241106 3 years ago
May Allah s.w.t bless you with the Xhennet Firdaus (amiiiiiiiiiin)...
Moslem08 3 years ago
La hawla wa la quwwata ila bilLah about the shaykhs comments about Urwa. Urwa made it apparant that just as ibn Abass had a position based on Sunnah, that Abu Bakr and Umar held other positions based on the Sunnah. Perhaps from another incident, or a different interpretation, or based on their ijtihad due to change of conditions which called for the need for it. What the Shaykhs ideology doesn't allow him to see is that Abu Bakr and Umar's positions are based on the Sunnah.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
Rasulullah SalaAllauh Alayhi wa Salam instructed to follow the Sunnah of the Rightly guided Khalifs. To criticize Urwa the Tabi, the Salaf and accusing him of the Sunnah for the opinions of someone else is a dangerous error. Does the shaykh understand Islam better than Urwa, the Tabi, the Salaf????
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
what I meant to say is "accusing him of abandoning the Sunnah for the opinion s of someone else.
mrdhikrbeads 3 years ago
can you give and example and proof?
KU106 3 years ago