Another muslim honor killing in America -

[kyoum1]

it was a good movie but sad... :(

[truth2350]

yeah sounds real "peaceful"

[princessrora100]

Why call muslim honor killing when there is no place that says honor killing in the quran? This plp mix their crazy cultures with islam and cover their evil acts with islam. I wonder why it doesnt happen in african muslim contries such as somalia kenya and Ethopia.

[hopesparkle]

Ok i'm a real Arab muslim. I studied islam at scool... I always tell mom u know that every muslim get 3chances to convert to another religi...

[TheJazuma]

@hopesparkle 3 chances? 

[SAABIR1]

lol muslims coming dramatic

in counter with jesus lol

lololol propaganda

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 I'll tell you what, i'll let you grow up a little bit more, and when that happens, i will let you in on it ok? :o)

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 You should know that everywhere in the world exists, particularly in universities, dictionaries or encyclopedias of Islam, which reference all the discoveries about Islam. You will find such traces of the discovery of these three versions of the Koran in Historical Dictionary of Islam and Dominique Janine Sourdel PUF And the "world dictionary of Islamism" (under the direction of books of the East) Plon

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 as the secretary of Muhammad and the third version is that of Ibn Mas'ud in Baghdad. History and Muslims have finally decided that the version given by the Caliph Othman, but it is established that these three versions of the current is not necessarily the most fair! here are my sources, you will find reference to them and reference the 3 versions of the Koran, I think in theological library and on the Internet:

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 However, others were a bit before doing the same thing, he also met the woodblocks and shoulder blades of camels, they have gathered from witnesses who had been with Mohammed and they, nevertheless succeeded in completely different versions of the Qur'an ! Thus, there is also the Koran Damascus, Ubayy, character witness live the life of Muhammad, since he was just what we name today,

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 There is therefore the current version of the Koran, which was formed by order of Caliph Uthman, by groups of believers under his command, who had recovered from wooden tablets and engraved blades of camels during the recitation of Muhammad. Witnesses who lived with Muhammad after their memories have also participated in the development of this Quran.

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Well all the Bibles i have seen have the very same 66 Books that speak the exact same thing if i compare the original 66 books while in the quran, it is a different story. I will like to inform you that there are 3 major versions of the Koran and in fact, contrary to what many preachers, it is not clear that the Quran today is the actual transcript and perfect words of Muhammad although it seems that the general framework is based.

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Bukhari (52:271) - This hadith recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, the soliciting of Mohammed. The men who volunteered for his assassination used the guile to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. Thus deceived, the victim left his fortress, and was massacred without thank you though his life fiercely.

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 like i said you cant take bits and peaces of things and expect it to be the truth...that is how the terrorist are breed and that is what causes the spread of hate...i encourage you to look at these things as a whole and you will they are sicumstancial and very strict on how things are to be run and you can continue to pray for me along with my southern baptist family...you know the Bible lead me to Islam and really im happy where im at

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Good for you, Jesus Christ in the Bible said: I am the weay, the Truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but through me (John 14:6) In Christianity, we are encouraged to let Scriptures speak for themselves and for what i read in your book, i will continue to worship Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God...you take good care!

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 you do understand that Muslims believe in the Bible as well but we also believe that parts of it have been changed..as has been proven in resent history when certain verses of the Bible were found to be inflammatory and false and then they were removed

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 No, You listen too much to man and not enough to God, actually, i believe you are fleeing from God as it is easier for you to retreat to religion to make yourself look good to God that you don,t know because the only True God above that exists wants you to know Him, not your religious performance. A religion does not change the heart of a man, obedience to the One True God, out of love for Him and abandonment to Him will change you which is what you fear. The Bible is 100% intact

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 i know God i have a personal relationship with him he drives my actions when i am doing most anything i think of Allah and what he would want me to do...and no Allah is not the Islamic name for God itsArabic meaning one God Arab Christians and Jews say Allah too...and how do you know that Islam is my religious preference? im more on the Agnostic side of things...and to think that the Bible is still intact is foolish because Jesus came because the Jewish leaders changed the Torah

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 My dear friend, i hope you at least understand that i am not against you personally but the reason i stand firm on the Authenticity and Authority of the Bible is because i have done my very first study on who wrote the Bible 4 years ago, i wanted to verify if the claims of corruptibility were true and what i have found is contrary to that urban legend, the Septuagint(300BC) and Dead Sea scrolls(300-100BC) confirm this along with all that's available for the NT. cted

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 What you are referring to about the leaders, some have departed from the Torah anc created their own Talmud but the Torah and the prophets is still intact to this day and that is the OLD testament that we still have and can compare to the oldest manuscripts and writings in our posession

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 No the corrupted word of man is what you have why do you think there are 66 books in your bible and 73 in the Catholic Bible?? because people opinions differed so they added some and took some away...Jesus himself even said he was a prophet and that the things he did were by the power of God not by his own power

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 The catholics added the apocrypha but the protestants remained faithful to the 66 original books, the apocrypha was denounced by a catholic saint by the name of Saint Jerome who said that the apocrypha were interesting books but were not inspired by God so the question must be asked to catholic hyerarchy, not to me as i read the uncorrupted 66 Books, Jesus also said He was the Almighty in Apoc. 1:8, don't forget He (God) humbled himself, and became obedient unto death (Ph 2:7)

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 It is also written: Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. (Phil 2:5-8)

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 And after all of this, you would have to answer for the 3 different versions of the quran, i have an explanation that is verifiable, i will give it to you in time...

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 ive only seen one version of the Quran and thats the only version...mean while the Bible has dozens of versions and you crticize me because you think there are three versions of the Quran...im sorry am i the only one who sees the hypocrisy here

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Here are many more sources approaching the subject: Joseph Bertuel, Islam its true origins  new Latin editions, El-Boghari C. Islamic traditions (Volume 1 to 4) translated by Houdas and Marc ed Maisonneuve Bernard Lewis Islam Gallimard, Walter Jean-Jacques Twilight of Islam editions of paris. Maybe you should stop listening to man and study very carefully every lead and hints that God gives you, Jesus bless you.

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Don,t forget to read the 5 other posts i have written below,

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 ve heard of these "other versions"why do you think Calipha Utman gathered the people together and stopped the spreading of them? he gathered a version that was written in short hand Arabic and was combined with the strong verbal tradition of reciting the Quran, at least the Quran can agree on historical things unlike the bible where in one book this happened with God but in the other it Happened with a man or an Angel or Satin...your not going to convince me ive seen and heard it all

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 So after debunking the myth of the unique quran u still go at it huh? Fine, tell me, and be honest, if a muslimr from your town came to ur house and said: i would like to marry your 6 year old daughter and have sexual relationships with her before she's 9, what would you say,Would you agree with that man? My Bible is acurate historicly, archeologicly and in empirical science every single time but your jesus remains a false jesus and mohamed has blood on his hands and sexual sins

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 oh yeah you just proved me oh so wrong about the Quran right?? even after having it pointed out that your wrong that Utman stopped other versions form coming about..and after with there being simple proof that the Biblical stories are not accurate like when Jacob wrestled with God and then in another book he wrestled satin...and there is no undesputable proof that Mohammed married Ayesha because the Hadiths vary on the subject so its all speculation

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 420 the only sure thing would be that he married her some say she was 6 some say that she around 17 and other say she was only a few years younger than the Prophets first wife so her age is mear speculation and irrelevant really because it her fathers final wish that she be married to his good friend Mohammed because of how good of a man he was and how kind he treated his wives

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Seems like i've touched upon a sensible matter here my good man, well which version is it? You got 3 choices that i've given you, i say she was married at 6 and had her first sexual experience at 9 according to Hadith 114 which says: "Aisha said:" I was six years old when the Prophet married me, nine years after he had actually conjugal relations with me. " But tell me, you, according to what is written in Talaq (65:4) would you marry a girl who did not have her periods yet?

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 not really you can say whatever you like it wont hurt my feelings but if if iit were the girls fathers dying wish that she married to me and he was a good friend then yes i would marry her if i were able to provide for her...there are circumstances to everything

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Look, do you realize that marrying a girl that never had her periods yet equals marrying a kid here? your book says this: for those of your women who have no hope of menstruation, if you doubt, the appointed period is three months - and also for those who have not yet had menstruation...(Talaq 65:4) I mean, you know, there are those who perish for lack of knowledge and those who perish for thinking they had knowledge, cted

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 so far, i didn't have to criticize your book, i only let it speak and it destroys itselt for the reasoning in it, it commands u to lie to me, to kill me, to marry kids, to even get rid of lukewarm muslims, those you call moderates, women are seen as less than animals and as a Christian, your moon-god sees me as the worst of creatures and u expect that someone who thinks, reads and analyzes, after watching you accept what you read, that i would blindly follow you in your religion?

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 i dont expect you to do anything Islam isnt for everyone as you have proven...just like Christianity isnt for everyone because its an idealist theology where everyone loves everyone and everything is forgiven at all times...why do you think the laws of the old testament were in place to being with?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 You are proving my point here, not everyone is made for islam but everyone is welcome in Christianity where you can be forgiven but do not have carte blanche to sin because we are commanded to repent(turn 180 degrees from your sins) and walk daily in repentance, holiness and newness of life, out of love for the One Who frees you from the bondage of sin by shedding His own blood for those who humble themselves and accept what He did at the cross and His Blood as final payment

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 if your free from sin by him shedding his blood then there is no such thing as sin any more and religion is pointless all together..and you skiped over my question

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 We are getting somewhere now, once His blood covers your sins, you are forgiven and made free eternally, and religion is indeed pointless as you say because religion is not what God is after as He is after your HEART, what comes after the one moment miracle of salvation is your personal walk with God in repentance where you walk after Him daily as a disciple and as an adopted son bought back in, this is why the New Teatament called themselves His slaves, it was because they cted

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 loved Him who made them free from bondage, saved their souls eternally and healed them from above to get rid of destructive patterns to be able to walk in holyness since the flesh is too weak to please God. We are not saved by our good deeds but rather by our faith and trust in God just like Abraham had faith and did noit refuse his son to God until the Angel of the Lord stopped hm from killing his son, trust in God is seen as righteousness and trust in Christ with your cted

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 the salvation of your eternal soul is all that's needed and a confession of faith like Peter said with his mouth when he said: You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God. It is written: The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9) That simple my friend

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 you cant even get your own scripture right lol Peter didnt write Romans Paul did if you notice when Peter wrote about Jesus he said God hath lifted up his servant unto heaven...not God lifted himself unto heaven...stop making God such a lowly creature...how can the creator be the created?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Oh i forgot confession of faith of Peter (Mat 16:16)but i did give u the salvation plan in Rom10:8-9,if u want to mock the salvation plan, that's u, there is only 1 Way to God and it is thu Jesus that we're saved, ur 72 virgins is a lie like the rest...if u loved the truth, Truth would soon find u but in the meantime, you're lost in ur sins and ur religion won't save u for it is written: it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment (Heb.9:27)

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 so a man such as Peter a great man who confessed Jesus was God himself...why would God they him."get behind me Satin you are an offence to me" and that same man neglect that he was a follower of Jesus 3 times and yeah the 72 virgins is a lie..ive never seen it in the Quran anywhere oh and when the Pharisees went to stone Jesus for calling himself God he said "isnt it written that ye are all gods" so Jesus is God and your God and im God and the crake head on the corner is God..

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 What is your definition of a sinner? What is it that you don't get that even living saints are sinners saved by the Grace of God? Which man is great on the earth? Jesus said: Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God (Matt 19:17) and later said He is the Almighty(Apoc 1:8) Peter denied Jesus 3 times and Paul even killed the first Christians. Can believers be tempted by Satan? Of course, these men still had flesh ya know...gods, with a little g, means

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 that we, in the afterlife, will be like angels which in the Old Testament are named gods without the Capital G and Jesus said For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.(Matt. 22:30) . Human beings will never be God, we can be adopted in the family of God as sons and daughters butGodwill always be the Only Living God.

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Oh and the lie of 72 virgins, is here in your book: Sunan Ibn Majah 4337 It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah said: “There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).” do u read? because if u do and believe this.

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 you know whats really funny about this Hadith? it the fact that i can only find a handful of resources on this and they are all anti Islamic propaganda lol thats hilarious that you would take that serious lol oh but here is the kicker...you do in the Quran about sex in paradise because in heven things are pure and it is allowable for the fulfillment of bases desires because if hell is punishment then why would haven be prison where you couldnt do anything

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 You do realize what u are saying aren't you? I guess the whole world knows about the 72 virgins in your book and that you are the only muslim on the earth denying the teachings of your prophet, watch out not to get your head cut off there young man! Hellooooooo? Anyone home, if you get 72 virgins, what kind of stinkin, fun is it for 72 girls to have to share only one male? I mean, if you drink coffee, can you smell it and wake up? And hell is damnation while Heaven is Holiness...

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 oh ok so the rest of the world knows the truth about Islam but Muslim dont O.o

Damnation:is the concept of everlasting divine punishment,

while Holiness is the act of being holy or sacred...now let me ask you thing once your in heaven if you decide to do something thats unholy like look at a pretty woman the wrong way does that mean your now damned and never get out of hell?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 The corruptible mind and flesh that the believers in Christ have on the earth now will be changed to incorruptible when the Lord comes back for His Church as it is written: So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. (1 Cor 15:54) That means that the believers in Christ although now with sinful flesh will be made perfect in Heaven

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 which in other words...do what ever want because as long as you believe a man was God then youll go to heaven because his blood makes everything pure...you dont even have to follow his teachings because well as long as you believe then youll be pure in the end...yeah awesome theology there

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Nope, we can't do what we want, told u this before but u were not paying attention i suppose...Jesus said: I tell you, tno! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.(Luke 13:3) This passage is also clear: it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. (Heb 9:28-28) we're commanded to obey His commandments too

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 like i said you can do what ever you like,,,plead the blood of Jesus over your drugs itll be aright we will party now and repent later...still the same answer apply either way

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Nope, you have no clue how much it hurts to go back to dog vomit(sin) after you've been adopted in by Almighty God, you obviously know nothing about the discipline of the Holy Spirit of God to straighten up those who go astray after their confession of faith. You, for instance, are not a child of my God and cannot grasp that my Father has now legitimacy to discipline me for i now belong to Him...

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 and how exactly does do he that????does he take away your toys???tell you that you cant play with your friends....oh no does he take away your computer? :O

[BigDJuggalo420]

@BigDJuggalo42 oh yeah you just proved me oh so wrong about the Quran right?? even after having it pointed out that your wrong that Utman stopped other versions form coming about..and after with there being simple proof that the Biblical stories are not accurate like when Jacob wrestled with God and then in another book he wrestled satin...and there is no undesputable proof that Mohammed married Ayesha because the Hadiths vary on the subject so its all speculation

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said: 'The war is based on deception" This verse justifies the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and thirty of his men disarmed by Muhammad after the promise of safe conduct. (see additional information below). Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between people by inventing and telling false information, that there is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Qur'an (3:54) - "They [the unbelievers] have used trickery [cons Jesus], and God was crafty too, God is the best strategist." The Arabic word used here for "cunning" or "trick" is makara, which literally means deception. If Allah himself uses trickery or plots against the unbelievers, this confirms that Muslims are allowed to do the same. Now that we've seen what your quran says, let us look at your hadith:

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Qur'an (9:3) - "... God and His Messenger are released from any commitment vis-à-vis the polytheists ..." On the dissolution of vows made with the pagans who stayed in Makkah after his capture. They had done nothing wrong, but they were still expelled. Qur'an (2:225) - "God will not hold it against an oath that you have spoken lightly, but one you have spoken in good conscience" Qur'an (66:2) - "But God has established for you a way to untie some of your oaths."

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Oh and before i let you go, i will post all the verses that say you are commanded to lie on here, give me a couple of minutes...

[MrMaverickOne]

i am an ex-muslim but i got to say that this is shameless ugly propaganda not necessarily because its lie but because how it is tailored.

[deltaecho1]

muslims kill people and burn churches. ... that's horrifying, it's a religion of peace. Let me brainwash that into my head.

[Wazztheweasel]

Fuck religions....the mind of the creator is in everybody...Jesus never wrote a book.

[Serge1965]

Father in Heaven, May the Lord Jesus Christ continue to appear to muslims in visions and dreams and bring revival and reformation in all muslim countries and defeat the spirit of islam totally, in Jesus' Name, Amen

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 ask things in my name and i will give it to you....right??? still hasent nor will it ever happen

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Well, i am 45 and i have been walking with the Lord for the last 4 years only and i have seen prayers answered and miracles that happened to me, so i cannot speak for you or others, the Lord asks to have faith in Him which means trust which i do practice and He rewards me for my humility and for my trust in His power so i trust in His power to appear in visions and dreams to muslims and that prayer has already been answered by the way, just look up the testimonies here on Youtube

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 ght you mean the propaganda that says its the first time they heard of Jesus?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Not propaganda, true visions and dreams that lead to real conversions where the new believers know that the real God appeared to them, Christianity is not a religion although some denominations make it a religion such as Roman catholicism. True Christianity is a personal relationship with the Creator who reveals Himself to those who truly seek Him, He gladly brings Himself to the believer Who seeks the truth.

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 what do you think Islam is???its ones personal submission to the creator he guides whom he chooses and he leads astray whom he chooses...and Catholicism is a Pagan religion where the many Gods have Christian names....but Christianity is a religion any theism is a religion

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 I am not a Roman catholic, i do not belong to a man made religion, i belong to the Living Lord Jesus Christ to Whom i gave my life since He redeemed me with His own blood, do not mix religiosity with True Christianity which is a personal relationship with the Most High God. The Roman catholic church also is responsible for the creation of islam by the way. In islam you also have a different jesus than the one in the Bible Who is God Almighty

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 you dont believe in man made religion but you believe a man that walked this earth and died is God? and the Catholic state is not responsible for Islam..the Jesus in the Quran is the son of Mary who gave a virgin birth and he walked a perfect life and preformed Miracles healed people and raised the dead all by the permission of God ..so what Jesus are you talking about?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Jesus Christ was prophesied at atleast 365 places in the OT and all of them prophecies were fulfilled with 100% acuracy and we have at least 1145 prophecies about His 2nd coming for very soon, that means that the whole Bible tells us more about today than the time when He walked the shores of galilea. As the Son of man He is the son of Mary and the same one who said:

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.(Apoc. 1:8) and to those who have doubts that He was speaking of Himself, He said: Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. (Apoc. 1:17-18) And those are His own words, the words of the only Jesus Christ that lives 700 yrs before yours

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 so the Jesus your talking about lived in 700 B.C.? because the Jesus the Quran talks about lived 700 years before Mohammed...and that you are talking about is from Revelation...its a dream of man for one...but you do know Muslims believe that Jesus is in heaven alive with God right?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 The Jesus Christ of the Bible is eternal but came down to earth, from God, 2011 some yrs ago. your jesus was invented 700 yrs after the real jesus nonetheless, even if the story in your book depicts him to have lived 700 yrs prior, it is a totally false jesus and Paul warned us against a false jesus in Galatians: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed (Glatians 1:8)

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 Paul was a genius he found a way to get the christians line without having to expend the energy killing tham...why do you think the very people that followed Jesus in his life didnt mess with Paul for very long? becaus he was not preaching the same thing Jesus preached thats why...and its not the same Jesus even though many of the stories are the same and they only differ in minor details?? how many times have yo0u even read the Quran ?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 I have been studying the Bible day and night for the last 4 yrs and i haven't been disapointed even once, everything in the 66 books is acurate, historical and even scientificly relevant as the more i learn about science, the more i'm comfy with the creation of the Biblical perspective. What i have read in the quran convinced me that it was not inspired by my God. I am commanded to love you but you are commanded to lie to me and to kill me, very different than what Jesus said

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 ok i am commanded to lie and kill you...show me where at in the Quran it says that with it being normal peaceful times and where its done without provocation?

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Are you telling me you don't even know your book? Okay! You asked for it, according to surah 98:6 i am the worst of creatures as a Christian. surah 9:5 says: fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.surah 33:61 says:They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy. Now for the verses where you are commanded to lie to me:

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 98:66. Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.

and the verse right after 9:5 say but if they ask for asylum grant it to him so that he may hear the word of Allah...see the Quran is a book you cant just take bits and pieces of you must take it as whole or it will be wrong

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 here they are: Coran (16:106) Coran (9:3) Coran (3:28) Coran (40:28) Coran (2:225) Coran (66:2) Coran (3:54) Now for the hadiths : Bukhari (52:269) Bukhari (49:857) Bukhari (84:64-65) Bukhari (52:271) Muslims are allowed to lie to infidels in order to defeat them. There are two forms of lying: 1- Taqiya - Saying something that is not true. 2- Kitman - Lying by omission. An example is when kitman defenders of Islam cite only cted

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 3. And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

this dosent say anything about lying this about a treaty with the pagans of Mecca after the treaty was over

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 40:28 28. A believer, a man from among the people of Pharaoh, who had concealed his faith, said: "Will ye slay a man because he says, 'My Lord is Allah.?- when he has indeed come to you with Clear (Signs) from your Lord? and if he be a liar, on him is (the sin of) his lie: but, if he is telling the Truth, then will fall on you something of the (calamity) of which he warns you: Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies!

i think thats self explanatory

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 2:225225. Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

nothing about lying again

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 im done rebuking your slanderous lies really its clear you have no clue what your talking about so peace and good day

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Quran (16:106) - This verse shows that there are circumstances that can "push" a Muslim to lie. Qur'an (3:28) - This verse instructs Muslims not to take the disbelievers as allies or friends, unless they do this are "compelled by a peril to be feared. " Qur'an (40:28) - A man is presented as a believer but was "hide his faith"among those who were not believers

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 So finally my friend, i will continue to pray for your salvation and the the real Lord Jesus Christ appears in visons and dreams to all muslims since i am commanded to love you and to tell you the TRUTH, once again, Jesus bless you.

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 an excerpt of verse 5:32 (that when someone kills, it "is considered the deadliest of all mankind") while failing to say that the rest of the verse (and below) gives license to murder cases, not really well defined, with "sedition" and "disorder". These circumstances are typically those who serve the cause of Islam, in some cases in order to gain the trust of miscreants to let them expose their vulnerability and defeat them.

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 Now you do what you want, i will continue to believe in my God who commands me to love and to tell the Truth at all times....peace to you

[BigDJuggalo420]

@Serge1965 right so you make those ckams but you cant show me where it is...hypocrite

[Serge1965]

@BigDJuggalo420 I gave you your own verses in your own book, you do the rest of the homework, you read your book and let it lie to you...

[graceinmay]

only the Prince of Peace can bring true peace...... don't be afraid to reach out to Muslims, love them, and share Christ with them. not "Isa", but Jesus Christ. even if they kill us, we'll be in Heaven's arms, and if they listen, they may come to Christ. which is bad?

[Karen41872]

I saw "THE STONING OF SORAYA M" .. in a theater in Berkeley...... It was riveting..... a MUST SEE for all Americans so they can see what the "religion of peace" is all about. The acting is superb ..... outstanding.

[Karen41872]

BURN THEIR FUCKING MOSQUES!!! Kick them out of our country! There is no such thing as "moderate" muslims....... These people are GARBAGE!

[zrah1092]

FUCKING towelheads!

[PhuQuangLe111]

THE SHIA SECT SHOULD NOT EXIST BECAUSE THEY BROKEN DOWN INTO SECTS AND THAT IS IRAN. MUHAMMAD IS THE WAY OF SUNNAH AND TIL THE END OF TIME THERE SHOULD BE NO OTHER BELIEFS. SO IF SHARIA LAW COMES FROM BREAKING DOWN SECTS THAN ALL OF THOSE LAWS ARE MADE UP. THE QURAN ITSELF IS A BOOK WITH LAWS GO READ IT AND THATS SIMPLE, SO NO FAT LIES.

[darrellking1973]

@PhuQuangLe111 funny since sunnis have commited honor killings in America to.

[rifqaabrahams]

i think u CHRIZZies should spend less time on comments and posting all this sh*t, and more time on cleaning your asses ....

[Domodeath]

To make sure you go to Heaven in Christandy- You have to put your life in Jesus' hands and love everyone as God has loved you.

To make sure you go to Heaven in Islam- you have to go out into a war and kill your and another non-believer

[AceofDimonds0]

@Domodeath

Exodus 22:19 Death to Followers of Other Religions

Leviticus 20:13 Kill Homosexuals

Leviticus 20:10 Death for Adultery

Deuteronomy 22:20-21 Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

Exodus 31:12-15 Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

"and love everyone as God has loved you." but god doesnt love: people of other religions, homosexuals, or people trying to earn a living on sunday. so why should we?

[Domodeath]

@AceofDimonds0 Christianity is not a religion, God said "thou shall not kill"

Does a just judge love a criminals ? Yes, but a just judge inforces the law.

[redbearization]

@Domodeath - MUSLIMS DANCE ON GROUND ZERO -

MUST READ -

GOOGLE: The Mosque at Ground Zero By Patrick J. Buchanan

[Domodeath]

@redbearization It is not my entention to be rude and hateful to the Muslim people, so I won't watch such a video

[andruchina]

@AceofDimonds0 Thank you for this comment!

[darrellking1973]

@AceofDimonds0 everyone of these come from the old testament. The new testament is the covnet that Jesus made.

[AceofDiamonds0]

@darrellking1973

and yet they are from the christians holy book. plus christians use the old testament to condemn and even kill homosexuals.

but its not ok for me to use them to show how christianity is just as blood thirsty as islam is?

[darrellking1973]

@AceofDiamonds0 It is fine but it still doesnt come as close to being as bloodthirsty as pislam.

[AceofDiamonds0]

@darrellking1973

yes it does, but you christians find handy little excuses not to follow those passages. but condemns islam for everything it has in its holy book.

so couldnt moderate muslims choose not to follow certian passages too, just like christians do?

why judge islam on foriegn radicals who killing people, and not do the same with christianity?

[darrellking1973]

@AceofDiamonds0 Because a majority of moderate muslims do not condem radical islam. While radical christianity such as abortion clinic bombings are almost universally condemed by moderate christians.

[Serge1965]

@AceofDimonds0 Just in case you did not know, we are on this side of the cross where God loves every souls as it is written: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:16-17) If God loves individuals it does not means He's gonna start loving their sins, Jesus fulfille the Law for us

[TheCoyote890]

If you want to learn how to fight against radical Islam in your countries look at Israel. 62 years and we remain free democratic country. Start with stop supporting Islamic lies about Israel.

[vonStahlhelm]

we have hatecrimes everyday, done by young, agressive muslims, mostly turks and arabs, they beat up even old people and kids.

we have very restrictive firearms-law so we cant protect our selfs,but if kill a muslim in an act of self-defense you will have a big problem.

if a muslim kill or harm a german he mostly get an acquittal from the justice because he is "such a poor and discriminated" muslim boy.

in the moment i construct a walking stick with an katana insinde!

[vonStahlhelm]

hi americans,

i am from germany.

our beautiful country suffers from muslim-infection since nearly 40 years. you can read about such killings nearly everyday in the news, the rape our wifes, they beat up our children an left-wing politicians are looking away. if you try to resist, they call you a nazi and put you in jail if you strike back.

for you in usa its not to late.you have to strike against the muslim scum - but fast and concentrated befor its to late for you.

[gabeme83]

great reflection master lol I love your thinking, God bless the men and nations that kill muslim men on the day-to day operations.

[Glamourlification]

OH and BTW

i am a girl and i have a clit. This also is correct to the women i know here. LOL ever heard of brainwash?

oh yeah and btw .. the men in my family ALL have ONE wife. Your comment is entertaining. Because you sound like a child who repeats anti-islamic lies just for the sake of it. Have fun

[Glamourlification]

LOL i can disclose every statement on how stupid it is, but one thing that made me laugh is this

"you wife your ass with left hand but believe bacon unclean"

well, hun you mean WE WASH our asses with our left hand when we pee and poop WHILST u pee and poop and wipe it with toilet paper. LOL yes bacon is unclean because it eats animal poop. why don't you eat a pig right now and have some swine flu. LOL

[polka23dot]

Muslims must kill non-believers wherever they are unless they convert to Islam. - Ali Goma (grand mufti of Egypt, the highest Muslim religious authority in the world, source: Al Ahram, April 7, 2008)

Bill Warner's lessons about political Islam (MP3 files, 4 hours and 36 minutes): h-t-t-p : / / actwestnashville . c-o-m / ? page _ i d = 544

Muslim impact on European civilization: h-t-t-p : / / tiny url . c-o-m / ltj7qb

[DanieljDixon]

Meanwhile our President is preaching Islam and educating us on the virtues of Ramadan. As American's we seek freedom, we are not about to embrace more control into our lives. Europe is paying the price now for their liberal tolerance towards this unpleasant religion. Stay in your own region, Americans do not want your religion here.

[lovecarlaa18]

In moments of our geatest fear Christ has not left us defenseless.Lets pray God

[cwp91206]

But, but, but I though Islam was the religion of peace. No?! LOL!

A so-called "prophet" who seeks followers by offering them 72 virgins as a reward is nothing but a pimp and a pervert.

[xAngelxSxDeathx]

Christian isn't a peaceful religion, every religion is spread by a tip of a sword, for example, the black crusade etc. S

[cwp91206]

The Crusades were a defensse and counteroffensive agains Islam which had been waging jihad against Christendom for centuries prior to even the First Crusade. The Crusades ended hundreds of years ago. Islam has waged jihad wherever it could for the past 1300 years.

God bless the Cursaders and all who fight Islam! They saved us from being Muzzies!

[Serge1965]

@cwp91206 The Bible is the ins^pired Word of God and needs not even to be defended by me for it stands alone without my help as it is translated in more than 5000 languages and dialects around the world according to Wycliffe Bible society. The quran has 3 different versions and the prophet teaches you to marry kids and that you will have 72 virgins in the afterlife which is a total lie and injustice, think about the poor women for a second and a false jesus after 700 years,...

[Serge1965]

@cwp91206 You do the math and you connect the dots if there is any more love of truth in you

[chemchiko60]

Christianity was not spread by the tip of a short, Christianity spread by the blood of the Martyrs. the Crusades had noting to do with the spread of Christianity. Also there is no teachings in the Bible to spread the religion through violence. That's unlike all the violent verses of the Koran.

[xAngelxSxDeathx]

LOL thats the point!!, The bible state no violence but yet we humans, we spread religion using force. Dude look history lol, the crusade spread forced people who didn't believe in god into believing god. You know the spanish invaded the incas in peru, and force the captives into turning into christian or they will die. The bible is somewhat flaw, i'm not a christian so who cares lol, every religion have used violence just admit it ppl U can't say 1 religion is fake and your is not. FLAME ME!!!!

[oratadin]

@chemchiko60 the bible may say so, but history says something else.

[chemchiko60]

@oratadin if humans misinterpret or do something that the Bible does not allow, then it's no fault of the Bible. History is just history, but the Bible is the Word of God. And God has given us the freedom to choose or reject Him.

[chemchiko60]

@oratadin It is no fault of the Bible if men choose to disregard it's intructions.

[oratadin]

@chemchiko60 yeah we should really follow the instructions. lets keep on having slavery, put women and homos down, lets destroy education by teaching creaitonsm, lets bann abortion. lets also follow the muslims toiletpapper bible-wanabe, let people who draw their prophet be killed. Kill those who critisize islam, kill those who jump of this religion. or jehovas witnes instructions, lets us be criminals if we jump of the religion. Go fuck youserlf.

[chemchiko60]

@oratadin You are just generalizing - remember who abolished slavery, who promoted women's rights, who promoted education. And in Christianity you have a choice to accept or reject Jesus as your personal Saviour and Lord. And no you are not going to be killed if you leave Christianity. Even if you cannot believe please don't act as if you know a lot. Wonder what you'll have to say to God come Judgement Day.

[oratadin]

@chemchiko60 I'm glad that todays modern christians are becoming more and more far away from the bible, that's why modern christians abolished slavery. They knew that it was wrong, even if the bible said it was okay. Promote education?! Christians want to promote creationsm and suppres stemcell research!! Christians want to abolish womens right to make an abortion! If i accept allah, jesus or buddha is irrelevant. I think you're a friendly nice person, but god can fuck himself.

[UtubeDuDeDuh]

@oratadin Actually if you look at the stats you'll see Most people are Christians and God doesn't 'Fuck' people....People have free will in a world full of love, hate, temptations, Envy, etc etc ..........And its up to you to find God......He isn't going no where but if you go around saying 'God can fuck himself' than you're going to lead a unhappy bitter life! and depressing life.....

[oratadin]

@UtubeDuDeDuh ok, i'm sooo unhappy and bitter. i'm sooooo depressed while i'm critisice religion. buhu, look at me, my shit is soaked with tears! you're right. if i critisize a fucked up god, then my selfestem is LOOOOOOOOOW. OOOOOOOOH. i'm so scaaared and saaaaaaad. man, lol, you make me laugh xD. just go away and read your damn bible.

[forzaitalia2]

great video

[MandoMohan]

Thank you. so much. In recent times, I've heard of many wonderful conversions in Islamic countries of people who have had dreams prior to evangelists arriving in the area. Wonderful, just wonderful!!!

[graceinmay]

yes, many Muslims come to faith in Jesus through dreams. Jesus is doing wonderful things in Muslim lives around the world.... please pray for the Muslims that they can know the True God through Jesus, and peace. and please please pray for the Christians with Muslim neighbors, for peace and freedom and freedom of religion for converts.

[lamentations32223]

It is the purpose of the heart that God looks at, not the person, nor their culture, but to the heart .... Praise God for His gift of salvation ...