History 101: Iran + U.S. = Clusterf$ck

[parvandelshad]

would you please just focus on your owen problem !!!!no wounder no one trust you guyes !!!!!!!!!!!!stay out of iran......

[Seporad]

No Wonder Why American Goverment Never Trusted By Iranin

[bobkiss3021]

If you could only manage to keep your fucking hands off Iran.....but you just couldn't..

[JohnGomezPlanet10]

There certainly is some truth here. The biggest problem I have with Kinzer and people like him is it completely ignores, belittles and disavows any power of choice, thought or action of the people of that country - in this case Iran. Are we supposed to believe that the powerful Iranian people were helpless against 50 CIA agents and a few troops they hired? No, the coup was done by Iranians with some small support by the CIA. The Iranian people are not mindless helpless victims now nor then

[armidas200]

@JohnGomezPlanet10 you are right but you also need to remember the time(i.e. the context).at the time the communist party was warning of the possible coup but no one listened(Iran was a DEEPLY religious country and communists were not,well,loved.since it was rumored that they are atheists/agnostics.)Also,Mussa­deq made the mistake of trusting those army generals who The Comm.Party was warning about and had staged a failed coup against him before.Furthermore,you are talking 1953 Iran...

[newworldordernyus]

Only complete regime change can bring democracy in Iran and the Iranian people need help. Kinzer is an anti-American lier on mullahs' payroll. Kinzer is a punk, a political prostitute

[captainamir]

Bloody British!!!!

[faranak777]

If only had US accepted Mosaddegh and let Iran have democracy, they would not have to deal with Khomeini, Bin Laden and Islamic fundamentalism later. Shame on the US 's e faulty, dirty, and shortsighted foreign policy that has been a tragedy for the middle east and now it is haunting them back.

[fraizer57]

@faranak777,U R either clueless or willing to be fooled by the radical liberal leftist agenda to fabricate the truth.As many Iranians know Kinser is a liar &a well known Mullahs lobbyist.Mosadegh was not democratically elected as all Premiers were appointed by the Shah only as ordered by 1906 constitution.CIA didnt remove Mosadegh the people did.All CIA did was to do nothing at most.From eve of August15th to noon of Aug17th was less than 3days not even James Bond007 could stage a coup in 3 days.

[faranak777]

@fraizer57 You may need to read some books from other sources to learn about CIA coup against Mosadegh. I do not know this Kinser guy; or if he is mullahs lobbyist or no. But we all know that CIA is proud of its success in toppling many democratic governments including Mosadegh. They have acted all this in the name of America's best interest .

[fraizer57]

@faranak777,CIA has always claimed the file belonging to 1953 were lost in fire, why because there were no files to prove they were involved. U need to read countless of books printed by Iranian experts on this subject rather than wasting time on IRI lobbyists like Kinzer. To discredit the Shah & demonize him nothing would be as useful as rewriting the history. Show me 1 document that CIA has confirmed hands in it yet the CIA the western media & the evil Yanks & the Brits say nothing about 1979.

[fraizer57]

Kinser is not just a US-Hater radical but a well known Mullahs lobbyist.Refer to the former CIA official Miss.Clair Lopez report on Mullahs lobbyists in USA.Kinzer made million out of the Iranian suffering&the Mullah's British backed revolution.He is full of BS.Mosadegh was NOT democraticaly elected.According to 1906constitution the Shah appointed all Primeministers.Kinzer is so evil that in his article he showed personal delight on the tragic death of the young Prince AliReza in Jan 2011.Shame.

[fraizer57]

Please visit my UTUBE Channel, read my comments Check on the books below specially "JIMMY CARTER"by Dr. Mike Evans&"HOSTAGE TO KHOMEINI"by Robert Dreyfuss&watch the clip above to see how Jimmy Carter&the evil filthy greedy Brits overthrow our Shah&imposed the terrorist Mullahs in 1979. How they opposed regime change in Iran in the past32Yrs.Google search on"CARTER'S ILLIGAL DEMANDS ON THE SHAH OF IRAN" by Prof Hilton.Dont be fooled by everything said to U as the Shah's foes R rewrting history.

[fraizer57]

Why is it that Mosadegh like McDonald became a household name worldwide when no one remember his countries Prime Minister20Yrs back let alone another country like Iran?Because the evil westerners decided to delegitimize the Shah's regime&so they demonized&terrorised him.33yrs later he is still the target.Yet noone talks about the role Carter&the Brits played to overthrow the Shah&replace him with Khomeini.This might be a taboo subject in the west but not amongst us Iranians.Shame ON U Kinzer.

[fraizer57]

Kinzer is out of his mind, full of BS &lies.No Prime Minister in Iran was ever ever democratically elected as the 1906 constitution would not cater for such election.The Shah as his duty appointed &dismissed all Prime Ministers.It was the Shah who twice hand picked him but Mosadegh was a bully when things didnt work his way.It is not strange that Mosadegh became household name worldwide while hardly anyone remembers their own PM of the last 20Yrs.Iran's oil money &Mullahs lies & western media!

[thereverenddoctor1]

Blaming others and things means they have power over my life instead of me. Accepting responsibility is taking back power. The past is the past, the future has not come. NOW is the only moment that exists. Change only takes place in the NOW. Worry about what might happen and feeling frustrated how it could have been allowed to happen, will not help us deal with what is happening. We can only change the future by changing the NOW.

[alireza24]

We should just stop trying to intervene in Iranian matters. As an Iranian American, I have to say, "KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF IRAN!"

[newworldordernyus]

Kinzer is a conspiracy theorist, not a real historian, he is backed by the mullahs lobby in the US

[Khaayam]

@newworldordernyus

he doesn't speak in favor of mullahs in any way. I think you are a conspirist. He is telling the history as it was. Mullahs must burn the worse death......

[newworldordernyus]

@Khaayam he keeps going back to 1953 and blame what's going on in Iran on that while in fact first of all you can't just blame US for neither 1953 or 1979. The same mullahs who supported Mossadeq in 1953 withdrew their support and backed teh Shah again and the fear of Tudeh take over as well as the economic losses after oil nationalization also disappointed the people (Britain boycotted Iran's oil so not a single barrel sold + Mossadeq regime was entirely marshal law and unstable)

[Khaayam]

@newworldordernyus

That's right too.

[fraizer57]

@newworldordernyus, Well said my friend. Please visit my UTUBE page read my comments, check on the books I have nmed including "CARTER" by Mike Evans & "HOSTAGE TO KHOMEINI" by Robert Dreyfus, watch the clip above to see how Jimmy Carter & Brits overthrow the Shah & imposed the killer Mullahs on Iran. Google search on "CARTER'S ILLIGAL DEMANDS ON THE SHAH" by Prof Hilton & see why west continues to oppose regime change in Iran since 79 & why Kinzer doesnt want to talk about this taboo subject!!!

[fraizer57]

@Khaayam,Kinzer is a bias liar.He is not telling the history as it was.He is telling the history as dictated&paid by the mean killer Mullahs.Many Iranians like Dr Jalal Matini Shamshiri MirFetros Dr Mehra Maleki&many more including Mosadegh's Minister's ie Abdul-Hussein Meftah written books challanging Kinzer's baseless venemous lies.I feel sad for those who sit at his lectures.It is time for Kinzer to talk about the role Jimmy Carter&the evil Brits played in the 1979overthrow of the late Shah .

[newworldordernyus]

@newworldordernyus while Carter conspired against the Shah and backed Khomeini, I don't solely blame America for 1979, I blame the people who were under the influence of Soviet propaganda and Marxism, the majority who were brainwashed by the mullahs and the idiots who didn't back Bakhtiar (including some of Mossadeq fan Jebheh Melli who back stabbed Bakhtiar)

No revolution was needed in 1979, only some reform that Bakhtiar was planning was enough to turn Iran into a real democracy

[teemsar]

@newworldordernyus , Well said man.... I couldn't even say it any better , thanks

[armidas200]

@newworldordernyus that's sheer naivety. to think that a dictator like Shah would have let Bakhtiar do what he had promised people of they were to accept his proposals.Communist Propaganda?!defending the popular revolution you mean?a revolution supported by 98 % of the population?!That is not propaganda.Bakhtiar became a tool in repression.If shah had accepted the need for real change 5 years earlier,even 1 year earlier,the revolution wouldn't have happened.Khomeini never ever in his...

[armidas200]

@newworldordernyus speeches prior to 1977 spoke of overthrowing of the system in fact he only mentioned reforms...so did the main communist party,The Tudeh Party.Because they knew that a revolution means bloodshed,lawlessness and chaos but there is only so much time you can spend demanding reforms before people lose their patience and trust with the system.the same thing is happening now.people,communists reformists and good members of the clergy along with the rest of the population are asking

[armidas200]

@newworldordernyus for reforms but the system is brutalizing and oppressing them,with the assumption that the would go away.But this is the exact same process that happened in the 70s.First people ask for reforms,if the system complies,perfect and if not give them time.Now if enough time has passed and nothing happened,well,people will make the change they want,one way or the other.Try to read history again this time actually thinking with an open mind while reading it.

[newworldordernyus]

@armidas200 I blame the Iranian people more than anyone else for the revolution that destroyed Iran. There is nothing wrong with having a revolution, but not a revolution against all the decades of achievements and ins support of the most backward animals on the face of the earth, the mullahs. The fanatical and illiterate mullahs had no chance of power without the way idiots gave so much power to them. I blame the Iranian people for making such mistake and betrayal of those who built Iran.

[armidas200]

@newworldordernyus it was the Iranian people who built Iran and it's them who has the right to chose the people they want as government!As Kennedy said:"Those who make peaceful reform impossible make violent revolution inevitable."So you are blaming Iranian people for wanting freedom and having hopes and aspirations?The Monarchy in Iran was nothing but dictatorship and brutality.What "decades of achievements"?Do you know anything about contemporary Iranian history?Anything at all?

[newworldordernyus]

@armidas200 I was born and raised in Iran under the mullahs dictatorship and my generation condemned the 1979 revolution more than any other mistake made in Iran's history since the Arab invasion 1400 years ago. You know nothing about Iran's history, you are not even an Iranian so shut your mouth and listen to one of the victims of the mullahs. Shah was a nationalist leader who abused his power thinking that he was doing the best for Iran, not a brutal dictator .

[armidas200]

@newworldordernyus I am an Iranian.Born in and I lived there until 2010 so I know what I am talking about.Our generation is critical of the Islamic Republic not the Revolution.And if we take your argument that shah was a misguided nationalist,we can say the same thing about mullahs,you know.They are misguided nationalists that are abusing their power.your logic doesn't sound all that good when used against you now eh?start thinking with your head instead of your mouth.

[newworldordernyus]

@armidas200 the mullahs are NOT nationalist, their ideology is based on Khomeini's ideology who said: "let Iran burn to help flourish Islam..." and said "Nationalism is evil, our goal is a global Islamic empire" even said that "Democracy is against Islamic values" . This regime is anything but nationalist, they would burn Iran to the ground just to follow their barbaric Islamic ideology.

[newworldordernyus]

@armidas200 I grew up in Tehran and Isfahan and telling you, almost anyone I knew was a critic of the 1979 Islamic Revolution. We were one of the most proud and respected nations in the world, there were all kinds of freedom except political freedom in Iran during the Pahlavi. Our economy was the fastest growing economy with 0% unemployment and highest % saving rate in the world. look where Iran stands in the world today!!

[newworldordernyus]

Since Kinzer is a leftist himself, he never talks about Carter administrations' involvement in the 1979 revolution that brought the mullahs to power. There are mounting evidence and declassified CIA documents supporting the fact that Khomeini (and other mullahs such as Behshti, Rafsanjani, Ghorbanifacr) were CIA agents prior to revolution.

[newworldordernyus]

first of all I am born and raised Iranian

2nd Kinzer is on the mullahs' payroll, he considers the mullahs regime as the legitimate Iranian government while to most Iranians is nothing but a fanatical occupying regime

3rd, he repeats the leftist/marxist/Islamist anti-American Iranian conspiracy theories of CIA toppled "democracy" in Iran while in fact the CIa's attempt to topple Mossadeq failed and was surprised when ordinary people (who originally supported Mossadeq) turned against him.

[iraniantiislam]

some truth at last but the price that the Greedy West will pay for is what we are witnessing :Evil Islam on their Doorstep.

[rjanis123]

more relevant now than ever.... listen closely to the Oil Company responsible

[vcrvincentross]

yeah, people only hear " terrorism is bad". too many people are naive.

[tubeflashinko]

This should be on NBC, BBC,...

give people the facts and the reasons behind the terrorism...

Tho historically Iran/Persia has never attacked another country/empire without being attacked first!

[maurieer]

Excellent videos and well worth 5/5.

Growing up in the 50s era i can remember this subject in our current events class in school.

This is because we had a social studies teacher who demanded that we keep up with current events around the world.

I must say that Stephen Kinzer has got it right.

[fraizer57]

@maurieer,I am Irani too lived in Baharestan Sq just like my Bazari famili did.Kinzer is a liar&a paid Mullahs lobbyist.Many books written by Iranian historians challange this shameless communist US-Hater communist.Many were involved in toppling Mosadegh including his old friends fedup with his bullyings including A-Faramarzi,Gh-Saedi,M Baghayi,Ayatollah Kashani,Shams Ghanatabadi&many more.The coin has 2 faces.The Shah is dead so now we have a coin with 1 face & that is only with Mullahs face!!!

[maurieer]

@fraizer57 You could verywell be right and I stand corrected.

Thumbs up to you.

[chris3443]

Can you find out this guy's name?

[damagejackal10]

Stephen Kinzer??

For more about America's middle east foreign policy search for "The Petro-dollar"

[rjanis123]

better yet, watch the Zeitgeist Addendum.. it's free to watch online.. and so worth the time to find, and watch.