Re: Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao makes dollars and sense

[keroncoward]

This vid was made in 2009 and you had so much info back then that is only now coming to light today. How much really is to rent your crystal ball?

[southstaronline]

How much to rent your crystal ball?

[ashyknuckles1]

@southstaronline LOL.

[southstaronline]

@ashyknuckles1 The analysis and accuracy is quite astonishing. Well done to you sir.

So let me ask you this, with a stint in jail (upto 90 days, which I doubt he'll see 2 months of) for Mayweather and Pacquiao open for a new opponent, what do you think is next for both fighters?

[ashyknuckles1]

@southstaronline Mayweather will probably fight in September if at all (if incarcerated). Pacquiao will probably fight Marquez or Bradley, which is what Top Rank wants.

[STONRUNNIT]

good observation bro!

[frederickfrenchjr08]

it is pacman vs clottey on march. it will be big coz of pacman.

[olalos]

:) check the yahoo news about that

[olalos]

Now, I say to Floyd Mayweather Jr., dont be a coward and face me in the ring, mano-a-mano and shut your big, pretty mouth, so we can show the world who is the true king of the ring.

[olalos]

I maintain and assure everyone that I have not used any form or kind of steroids and that my way to the top is a result of hard work, hard

[Chaz770]

wrong, public demand is bigger than all that. not the mention the money

[MAKATI2LA]

HEY ASH, there is a chance that fight betweenPAC/MAY will not happen...all because of greed of both sides man--this people are not boxers anymore they become businessmen after getting big--but so far your comments and stats are right on the money, but one thing u should knw bro. that most filipinos in the philipines used sites like yours to make bets in casino-just so u know- what to expect if u make the wrong prediction...peace

[ransomshot20]

ashy fuck all the haters my dude! keep droppin that knowledge on all these rude ignorant suckas man!!! pacman vs money needs to happen!!! they got 2 tuff dudes standin in there ways tho!@ keep up da good work ma dude!

[ashyknuckles1]

I appreciate that, bro. Thanks for watching the video.

[mythz07]

pretty sad. The fans are what makes the sport what it is. FMJ vs Pac, in my opinion, would be bigger than FMJ vs Oscar, Pac vs Oscar, and Pac vs Hatton. The way Pac walked through FM last two opponents set a desire for fans to see FMJ vs Pac to a level that's through the roof. It's pretty sad that the business side of boxing robs the fans of seeing the fights they really want to see. Right now, anybody Pac or Floyd fights is seen as a build-up to them fighting each other to a degree

[ashyknuckles1]

Exactly.

[ATL4041077769]

Good Vid dog, I agree with everything you said. U the first cat that I heard blame the promoter for these fights not taking place and not PBF by saying he ducking fighters and stupid shit like that. You see past all the media and internet talk and break boxing down like it really is. You a real fan of boxing so keep breaking shit down because that motivates us up and coming boxers to know that people use their mind to judge boxing and not their Hearts or bias ass opinions.

[ashyknuckles1]

Thanks alot, bro. I appreciate the comments too. Good luck in your boxing career.

[Robinhood0328]

Manny never calls or chooses any fighter to fight him. Not like MW jr. he picks whose his opponent to fight. You said, MW jr agreed fighting Marquez because Marquez called out MW jr. How come when Mosley calls out MW jr many times before Marquez called MW jr. Mosley was the first one who called out MW jrt to fight him and yet MW jr chose Marquez, People know MW jr is afraid fighting Mosley. In fairness to Mosley.

[adp023]

Pacquiao-Mayweather will happen eventually. The Mayweather-Marquez fight is strategically designed to set up the Pacquiao fight. Since Mayweather Promotions is just a shell company and uses Golden Boy to do the ACTUAL promoting, the negotiations for a Pacquiao-Mayweather megafight will be btw arum & schaeffer. And their ONLY JOB is to convince their fighters to agree on a 50/50 ppv split. Let's hope these men are good at their jobs! Tell em either they fight each other or face Mosley or Cotto!

[ashyknuckles1]

Nice.

[lionheartodd]

because he is going to fight mosley marquez is a tune up fight you have to understand flody has been gone away from the sport a year and a half my question to you is would you fight sane mosley after you have been out of the sport for a year and a half

[EA2153]

what do u mean tune up fight? why not fight manny right away?

[lionheartodd]

why not fight a tune up fight he has been gone for a year and a half alot of fighters fight tune up fight just look a cotto verses jennings a unranked fighter before he fought clottey but unlike cotto fighting jennings mayweather is fighting the p4p#2 guy Jaun Manuel marquez so it is funny how everyone is saying that he gets all these soft touches.

[EA2153]

what i was saying is i really dont know wehat a tune up fight is homie... like im wondering why he fought marquez instead of fighitng pacquiao a fight that everyone wanted instead.

[shyless84]

I think this wouldn't work for Arum, because, Mayweather also has options he could easily go and fight someone like Amir Khan in the UK at wembely stadium which would make mad PPV numbers in england. He then could fight welterweight champ Berto, a young prime fighter, he then could fight Mosley in a 2 fight deal. So you got floyd next 4 fights over the next 2 years and a half. To be honest he could easily retire after. Plus floyd would just scream that cotto and pac are ducking him. LOL

[MHEE1NICOLESWEETY]

his the p4p king right now if he want it back he should go talk to the right man a say i came back to claim my crwn. and manny pacquiao has it. this is what i think he should do. instead his claiming something he dont have it anymore. and he want it back from the guy that dont it. this just i dont understand from him unless he just dont wanna have date with manny inside the ring.

[MHEE1NICOLESWEETY]

ok the funny thing is that golden boy is doing that right now about the fight of mayweather and marquez. i know why fight with manny is not going to happen couse floyd dont want it to. why cause his asking 60/40 come on now when company dont want customer all they do to keep them away is to over charged them. so they want come back that what floyd mayweather is doing ok.

[thedragonlady64]

what the hell are you talking about Manny Mayweather against Pacquiao> hello Manny is not Mayweather Manny is Pacquiao, if you are broadcasting this do it right please you are very careless get ur facts straight and accurate please!!!

[ashyknuckles1]

??????

[dragonstyle619]

I didnt get it either. WHat the hell did dragonlady64 even mean? I think we all know Manny is not Mayeather but Pacquiao.... (for a while I thought that was me... cuz i saw Dragon and wondered wtf lol)

[ashyknuckles1]

lol

[BloodBoxing]

she heard him say money mayweather and mistaken it for manny but she is a dumb racist prick that left stupid comments on my page also

[ashyknuckles1]

Believe me bro. I am not tripping on her. Just another ignorant comment. It goes with the territory. You feel me?

[BloodBoxing]

@ thedragonlady64....wtf are you talking about...you make no sense...he said money mayweather...your such a racist dumbass that you were not even listening to this brother's video....you cant hear lil lady go get yourself a hearing aid because you are hard of hearing.......you get your facts straight dummy....MONEY is what he said...not manny....damn you stupid as hell

[EA2153]

damn, quick ass comments already

[mighk21]

for your info pacman already called out mayweather to fight him on record... the only thing that would make this fight not happen is when floyd (obviously scared of pacman) would offer 60/40 split in favor of floyd... and i agree you are one sided. Arum deserves more respect from you guys... arum was already promoting when you weren't even born yet and handled great big names such as ali so stop being disrespectful.

[ashyknuckles1]

Wow! How anyone can see me being one sided on this video is by me. I'm just using facts, and concluding the video with my opinion. Nothing more. I have alot of respect for Arum and what he's done for the sport of boxing. I don't believe I disrespected him or anyone else in any way. But, I digress. Thanks for watching the video.

[FrYLocK41]

I bet your going to be rooting for Mayweather (It wouldnt be suprising) hehe. Though if we talk facts, Pacquiao is a better fighter than Mayweather.

[EA2153]

Yeah I ain't gon lie ma nig... I think you gon be rootin fo mayweather..

like FrYLocK41 said, Pacquiao will knock him out early.

[dragonstyle619]

I know i'll get hate form Manny Pacquiao fans for saying this... and i'll touch on it on my video.

Mayeather - De La Hoya = 2.4 million PPVs

Mayeather - Hatton = 910 thousand domestic PPVs

Pac-DLH = 1.3 million

Pac-Hatton = 825 THousand. Domestic

Pac-Marauez II did 400,000 PPV's. If Mayeather does more than that then I dont see Bob Arum being able to sell his ridiculous 70-30 offer to Floyd "is so greedy" Mayeather

[FrYLocK41]

Dont forget the fact that Pacquiao is not american and was relatively unknown till after he fought ODLH.

Pacquiao is not about making money, he's all about beating the shit of whoever is put in front of him old or not old washed up or not shot or not whatever excuse you can come up with.

[butsad]

pacquiao is already known in the boxing world before the ODLH fight... FRYLOCK41, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BOXING.

[FrYLocK41]

having 400,000 PPV is not that known YET. Fighting a legend of Oscar De La Hoya and beating him up and having 1.3 something million PPVs you do the math brainhole. The only reason Pacquiao-DeLaHoya reached 1.3m PPVs is mainly because of DLH. After that fight, Pacquiao became popular now he did 815K PPVs without having another PPV attraction like ODLH. Think before you speak, your the one who dont know shit about boxing.

[dragonstyle619]

You obviously dont knwo what the hell you're talking about. Pacquiao was selling 300,000+ PPV numbers for almost 5 years. Had a great trilogy with Erick Morales, 3 fights did over 1 million PPV buys combined. ONLY Oscar De La Hoya and Trinidad did better numbers than Pacquiao in the last Decade. Pacquiao wasnt less known than Mayeather was before fighitng DLH. ANd if he was it proves my point further that Pacquiao cant expect a ridiculous 70-30. Now go educate your self and comeback

[dragonstyle619]

That was to FrYLocK41

[FrYLocK41]

hey beaner, do you know the difference of having 300,000 PPVs and 815,000 PPVS? Do u know the difference between being known inside of boxing and outside of boxing? Your the one who needs to educate yourself as far as im concerned. Dont fucking compare 3 fights being combined for 1 million PPVs to one fight having fucking 2.4 Million PPVS. Sure Pacquiao was known INSIDE of boxing 3,4,5 years ago but you have to know the difference being known both inside and outside. You wanna play insults? ok.

[dragonstyle619]

FrYLocK41, you're contradicting your self. Youre NOT helping Pacquiao's case of having the lionshare with your argument. SO you're saying Mayweatehrwas a mainstream start before the DLH fight and Pacquiao wasnt? Genious. That would give Mayweather leverage GENIOUS

[FrYLocK41]

since when was I argueing about Pacquiao's leverage and lion's share? Your the one who just contradicted yourself. Take a look at my comment earlier, I said Pacquiao doesnt give a shit about Money dude. He hands them over PERSONALLY to the poor back in the Philippines. He agreed to a 52-48 split with a bum that Hatton is. The only people who are pushing for Pacquiao to do a 70-30 with Mayweather are Roach and Arum because they know he deserves it. Damn man you need to do some research.

[dragonstyle619]

You're hurting your self. Mayweather being more known than Pacquiao BEFORE the DLH fight in no way shape or form helps any argument in Pacquiao's favor. Period. I clearly stated 50.50 is fair already. You're just assuming im siding with Mayeather when im just giving you FACTS. All you have are contradictions and assuptions. Mayweather laces up a pair of gloves and risks just as much as Pacquiao inside the ring.

[FrYLocK41]

Tell me where I contradicted myself? Tell me when the heck did i say Pacquiao should have 70-30 split? I havent said any opinion on how the money should be split between Mayweather and Pacquiao. If you want my opinion on it, it should be 60-40 to the winner of the bout. You can stop comming up with random shit and know that your the one whose hurting yourself.

Im not even suprised that an Erik Morales, Oscar De La Hoya fan has a mindset like this againts Pacquiao rofl....how sa.

[dragonstyle619]

What mindset do I have on Pacquiao? Just because im statings FACTS that Mayeather sold better PPV with DLH and Hatton than Pacquiao did? And your best argument is name calling and retarded assumptons? Im a fan of Pacquiao and I've bought all his PPV's since 2005.

I've never said anyhting bad or wrong about Pacquiao. You're the one who's attacking Mayweather for retarded reasons. Tell me how Mayeather fighitng DLH and Hatton for Money reasons is any differant than Pacquiao fighting them

[dragonstyle619]

Mayweather puts him self in just as much risk inside the ring as Manny Pacquiao. I respect both men for doing what they do. They both have sacrificed and they BOTH faught DLH and Hatton for the same damn reason.

Pacquiao is a good person and exciting fighter but numbers dont like. 50/50 is fair.

Heart is for family and balls and brains are for business. ANd Boxing PPV splits is a business.

Both guys have good economic arguments. 5050 is fair.

[FrYLocK41]

Why do u keep saying 50/50? I dont give a shit about your opinion dude. All my comments have stated that Pacquiao doesnt give a shit about money and I can back it up if you want. The only people who wants a 70/30 split are Arum and Roach. How am I attacking Mayweather? I could care less of who he fights, he wont be proven #1 P4P unless he beat the current #1 P4P. He's the one who needs Pacquiao, Pacquiao doenst need him.

[shyless84]

This is a response to FrYLock41. You said pacman dont need mayweather, hahaha, come on man we both know thats not true if it was, then why the hell is he waiting for the winner of july 18th to make his mind up on who he would like to face? The fact of that matter is that many true boxing fans will like to see Mayweather fight the welterweight champ Mosley than manny pacman. If mayweather beats pac its no big deal he beat a midget, if floyd beats mosley he has official status as welterweight king

[FrYLocK41]

You cant even fucking answer my questions. When did I contradict myself? When did I attack Mayweather? Did you even read my comments. my goodness

[FrYLocK41]

When did I attack Mayweather? When did I say Pacquiao should have 70-30? When did I say Pacquiao sold better PPVs than Mayweather? Man you need to stop comming up with these random stuff. Do us all a favor and try to read my previous comments. In no way that I've said that Pacquiao should have the 70-30, I stated that my opinion is the winner should have 60-40 split. Get your facts straight before you throw random self-proclaimed facts. Your getting your ass checkhooked. haha.

[dragonstyle619]

Good video(s) Ash and Beeb. I'll be doing a response to this video. I'll give my take on this. Keep eye out for it.

[ashyknuckles1]

alright, bro. I'm looking for it.

[jhabeeb1]

Thanks bro looking forward to seeing your vid

[jhabeeb1]

Suberb response!! I think Golden Boy has revolutionized the sport in recent years. It is kind of disturbing the way Pacquiao puts so much faith in Arum in regards to picking his opponents. I was thinking the same thing about Arum controlling the welterweight division sort of like King controlled the heavyweight division. It is a possible senario that Arum could be the spoiler here. Only time will tell.

[2008cben]

You are one sided FMW want 60/40 split because he still thinks he is #1 or the hottest boxer or what ever he calls himself and he is making alot of excuses like cant fight in october or what weight or what ever else he can think of but he opens his mouth and tell everyone that pacman is the one making all the excuses, FMW should just except the fact that he is not #1 take what ever is offer to him and if he wins then he has the ball back to his corner then ask for what he wants

[ashyknuckles1]

I'm one sided? How about I'm no sided? I don't care who makes what amount of money. I don't recall anyone blaming pacman for making excuses for a fight that's not even the in the initial stages of negotiations. I see you have your rants ready. lol YOu have every right to feel how you feel. Thanks for watching.

[2008cben]

When he was given an offer he said that october was too early and he will only except the fight if he get 70 or lowest 60 which I think is an excuse he been putting Manny down that he not even good enough but when he is ask by Manny at welterweight at a catch weight of 144 he said no

[ashyknuckles1]

I truly did not know that.

[dragonstyle619]

How can Mayweather negotiate a fight already? Thats a conflict of interest with his Marquez fight. They can talk about it... but there is no TRUE source to suggest Mayeather turned down a fight for October.

[mighk21]

obviously you havent watched mayweathers latest interview on espn... hehe floyd was asked a million times about pacman... listen how he eluded the question..... it's so easy to say that he is interested and decide on it after the marquez fight but he didn't .... he even clapped his hands just to make brian stop that question LMAO... watch it... go on... its ok LMFAO

[ashyknuckles1]

I'm glad that you're tickled. I've seen the interview several times. Eluding the question? I doubt it. It was more like not engaging in talks for a future PPV based the premise of it being rather premature to discuss it. You know he IS fighting Marquez next month.

[FrYLocK41]

he talks about money while the other guy asks about boxing and possible boxing matches. Its true, you know it bro.

[ChummyChime]

if mayweather is not too greedy the fight will happen.

[dragonstyle619]

DOnt just say Mayeather is the guy holding it back