@FiragaJJC - Well... Sure, the PSP itself might be broken, but spare parts that it can be sold for can bring in a good sum depending. Sorry to hear that man. :(
@Owned4Eva also I haven't lost cause your point is null and void. If you said that 8 months ago it would been valid. Now its nothing because neither me or @Soon18 care about it and has moved on. My point is more valid than your point because you decide to refereance an argument you wasn't involved to begin with. I don't care about the point of an old argument because I have other things to concern with and thats not one of them.
@FiragaJJC You know what? Fuck it, the fact that you left a fricken essay on my channel and decided to block means your just one of those people who just don't want to lose. Grow up kid, and yes I'm Chinese, got a problem inbred? Attacking one's ethnicity makes one smarter yup derp.
@Owned4Eva - Actually what is means is that he himself is the bigger man; the fact that he blocked you means that he's done with the argument that you want to dig up time and time again--and you're just as immature to provoke him into replying; not to mention the fact that you're proclaiming him as an inbred. Insulting other people isn't the action of a mature individual; act your age and contemplate your actions.
@Owned4Eva and saying a pointless argument is pointless that happened 8 fucking months ago is more stupid than the argument you idiot. The post no longer matter and long forgotten.
@Owned4Eva also I find it quite stupid to reply to a comment more than 2 weeks old. This was 8 months ago a long squashed and no longer cared... Why bring this shit back up? We no longer care about the argument. I'm on to kpop and I get this mess
@FiragaJJC Pointless arguments are pointless, whatcha gonna do now? Do two more replies to my single reply? You tend to do that alot :)
Leave this page alone, I was merely saying how stupid the reason for this argument was, as you can see from me comparing to Pepsi Vs Coke. If you really are intent on not losing an argument, Visit my page. Leave this Page Alone ok Sweetheart? :)
@FiragaJJC ...D'you wanna see the tier list that was compiled by the Dissidia Forums team? I'll send you it in a PM if you like. I wasn't involved in it's creation, but from what I understand it was made after many months of effort comparing each and every character against each other in Player vs Player matches. It's the most comprehensive tier list you can find on the net. It makes quite clear that Kuja and Zidane are the best characters in the game, with Terra as a close second.
@Soon18 Um... since you never pkayed Doudecim yet... then you don't know how Kefka tricked both Kuja, Cloud and Sephiroth (me being a Seph fan). And I don't care for teirs list cause you have one list saying Kuja was best (and I repeat those people never fought me). and i hear Golbez and Exdeath were top teirs. Besides... Teir are for queers and my top player in dissidia is Terra who i mastered close range combat followed by Sephiroth both who i only got defeated once by.
@Soon18 And I compared character to character on player vs player already myself being that I own both Dissidia (original Japanese with the infinite combo Cloud, and English version) and I repeat about Kuja, he wasn't all that great. He a good character, but once I dodge ultima... he was nothing. In doudecim however, he's a bit faster and his serphric star homes and absorbs plus he can move while doing the attack. Flare is faster than before... so I give him credit in doudecim
@Soon18 I seen a match player vs player Golbez vs kuja and kuja got owned. it was the end of chaos stage and the golbez player wall raped him. they rematched at another stage and again kuja got owned and this kuja player is a great player. but like i said cause i studied each character in dissidia... Kuja has too many flaws which were corrected in doudecim. Zidane is a cheap character especially if people run and spam shift break so PLEASE! I don't follow tier, I follow skills.
@Soon18 I seen a match player vs player Golbez vs kuja and kuja got owned. it was the end of chaos stage and the golbez player wall raped him. they rematched at another stage and again kuja got owned and this kuja player is a great player. but like i said cause i studied each character in dissidia... Kuja has too many flaws which were corrected in doudecim. Zidane is a cheap character especially if people run and spam shift break so PLEASE! I don't follow tier, I follow skills.
@Soon18 oh shit the comments made by Shawnfangirl09 were actually by me... i forgot to sign my little sister out before I commented. so redirect any comments to me here. I dislike Tiers cause they pissed me off. People who follows tiers only chooses those characters and tournament are boring that way. To add, in my school Golbez and Exdeath were used alot cause they are tiers. In the jap version it was Jecht
So... the weakest of the ten main villains wins in a free-for-all deathmatch? Only to be killed by (arguably) the second weakest villain afterwards? ...Random. The video was well made though, I'll give you that.
@694377 No, I'm not saying either Gabranth or Golbez are weak by regular standards (far from it). In fact, they're both still stronger than most (if not all) of the hereos individually. However, by the standard of villains ... they're not all that. You have to remember that most of the Dissidia Chaos cast are practically Gods themselves and are easily the sinlge strongest being in their respective universe ... Golbez and Gabranth, however, are not.
@694377 That's no disrespect to FF IV & XII, though. Zemus and Vayne would easily be able to compete with the other Chaos characters, it's just that Square chose to put in villains with more of a connection to the main heroes, rather than simply going for the most powerful, so FF IV is majorly disadvantaged in the power level department. Golbez would be alright if all the characters were confined to their base state, but the second we consider each villain's true power ... he's doomed. :(
@Soon18 - Opinions do not equal fact. I respect your opinion, but don't try and force it to fact without actual evidence that one can observe and see for one's self.
@694377 ...Wait, you are kidding, right? ... No? You SERIOUSLY believe that Golbez and/or Gabranth are stronger than ALL of the other villains in Dissidia? ... Damn. That's ... wow. I'm actually stunned by that. Too stunned to even debate it with you, in fact. I guess I can go around pretending that Quina Quen is the most powerful Final Fantasy character then, because it's an opinion (despite it being a ridiculous one that goes against common sense) ... yes. Yes, indeed.
@Soon18 - Now you're just jumping to assumptions. Likewise, I'm too stunned to debate this matter anymore. Let's just leave it at than and speak of this no more.
@694377 ...Let me just ask this one question - out of sheer curiosity of your "opinion". I take it that you at least accept the established facts that Garland/Chaos, The Emperor, Cloud of Darkness, Exdeath, Kefka, Sephiroth, Ultimecia and Jecht/Sin are all the most powerful beings in their own universe, correct? You also CANNOT debate the fact that both Zemus and Vayne are stronger than Golbez and Gabranth, as this is clearly shown in their respective games.
@Soon18 - And my so-called 'opinion' isn't even that. Golbez was tied with Cosmos, so I saw it right to include him and Garland with one another at the end. The inclusion of Gabranth, and his 'victory' was-how I saw it, was due to Golbez becoming tired from the his battles. This video was made at least 2 years ago, let it rest.
@694377 Oops. Didn't see this post. If you don't wanna talk about this it's fine (and I understand that this was made a while ago), but I just want to understand your reasoning, is all. I loved your Heroes vs Villains Deathmatch video (it's in my Favourites, after all), mainly because I think that you made mostly all of the right choices as to which hero and villain should "advance" through each fight ... plus it was well edited together, of course.
@694377 But then I see this video and find that you've completely rejected rational assumptions about the character's fighting ability and chosen quite possibly the least likely character to win. I understand the Cosmos connection with Golbez (and wanting the good guys to triumph), but then ... Jecht & Kuja are also allied with Cosmos to a certain degree ... and both are almost certainly more powerful than Golbez.
@Soon18 I just going to say this... but never underestimate Golbez... he is more powerful than Kuja and Jecht, but power isn't anything when skills and smarts comes into play. Also I like to add that I made a vow to myself that if I lose to the Emperor that I would stop playing Dissidia because he flare is too easy to knock back. Look at my Dissidia the emperors problem and read my description box.
@FiragaJJC Er... I was talking about canon character power levels, bud, not gameplay standing (although Kuja is 100% better than Golbez in gameplay temrs, too ... Jecht ... mrm... debatable). But, no, Golbez is not stronger than Kuja (Trance Kuja has demonstrated the power to destroy a planet single-handedly) or Jecht (who, as Braska's Final Aeon is stronger than Sin ... who's capable of vaporizing large chunks of Spira's surface layer with ease).
@Soon18 If Kuja could have destroyed a planet single handily, he would have. Golbez has a lot of power and by far is stronger than some in the villian side. the 4 I would say that he is not is Kefka, Sephiroth, Ultimecia, and Garland in terms of there own right. but he is not the weakest of the villians at all. In fact before his mind was freed from Zemus, Golbez is a very powerful wizard with mass power. not even meteor could kill him (defeated but not killed).
@FiragaJJC Also, I think you'll find that Trance Kuja DID destroy a planet (his home world - Terra), otherwise I wouldn't have said it. I'd like to know why you think Golbez is stronger than any of the others - he's a secondary antagonist who's power was nowhere NEAR the level of Zeromus, the final boss of FFIV. It's also strange that you list Kefka a one of the strongest, since his destructive feats are actually even less than those of Kuja's and roughly equal to Jecht's.
@Soon18 After Golbez mind was freed from Zemus, he hasn't displayed that much power, but he still has it. And if he wanted to he can own the villians of chaos side... but he can't take them on all at once. and as a Sephiroth fan, I give each villians there own rights. Golbez can't take them all at once, but one on one he stand a fair chance. Gameplay wise... Kuja is NOT 100% better than Golbez... trust me. Kuja great and annoying, but not better.
@FiragaJJC Er ... and what leads you to believe he has this secret power exactly? Sorry, but I prefer to go by what a character has SHOWN us they are capable of (unless it has been clearly stated that said character held back, such as Sephiroth in AC). Believe me, I'm not trying to discredit Golbez as a character (I think he's awesome), but we can't pretend he has powers he simply doesn't. Golbez has never shown feats anywhere close to some of the other Chaos characters in their true forms.
@FiragaJJC As for gameplay, I think you'll find that Kuja was ranked as the best character in the game for both the original Japanese & NA versions by the fanbase in the tier lists that were made. Golbez was pretty hot shit in the Japanese version, I'll give you that (as was Jecht, actually), but both of those two got nerfed for the western releases. No idea about Duodecim yet, but Kuja seems just as formidable as ever.
@Soon18 I would agree on the Jap version Jecht was powerful one and was nerfed in the american version. How ever Golbez wasn't nerfed. Kuja had many flaws in which I exploited during Dissidia. in Doudecim his flaws were fixed. Who ever thought Kuja was top shit in Dissidia obviously never fought me in Dissidia cause they would not win. In doudecim, they have a chance cause his HP attacks are more proficient. also if I remembered, Kuja destroy his homeworld with a machine not his power.
@Soon18 Also Kefka is powerful in his own right after taking the power of the three Gods, though he was too emotional for me. I merely stating the fact that he get into people heads and should not be taken lightly. but to fight him out, without the Triads powers, he's nothing.
@FiragaJJC Yes, but how powerful were those so-called "Gods" really? Given that Kefka's final goal was to destroy all existence, the fact that he was unable to destroy even one planet before he was defeated (after achieving the maximum amount of power that he could possibly attain) is actually pretty pathetic ... and this coming from someone who quite likes Kefka as a villain (he's hilarious, for sure). People overstate the title "God of Magic" without assessing his actual demonstrated power.
@FiragaJJC As for "getting into people's heads", well ... all good villains did this to some extent, and the only character who Kefka affected pschologically to any serious extent is Terra, who eventually overcame her trauma, so... he wasn't so successful there, either. Anyway, as I've said, mind games have no place in a discussion about a villain's power, because none of Kefka's fellows (with the exception of Jecht, who is a villian against his will) is dumb enough to fall for such petty ploys.
@FiragaJJC Also, I'm guessing that since you didn't reply to my argument, you accept my stance that Golbez, while a very powerful character, isn't quite able to compete with the other villains in their final forms? He, after all, has to resort to summong the Shadow Dragon to power up ... hardly equivalent to gaining control of a world-erasing power or becoming a God. ^_^; That is where this discussion began, after all...
@Soon18 Hey idiot... did you not read the omments made by Shawnfangirl... that was me accidently using my sister account. And two, Golbez can compete with the other characters... DON'T PISS ME THE FUCK OFF!!! He is stronger and capable of defeating many of the chaos warriors
@FiragaJJC Seeing as how the last wall so far is by you, Don't call people Idiots. This whole convo is fucking retarded, like comparing Pepsi with Coke or IOS against Androids
@FiragaJJC Golbez is a powerful villian in his own right, but he doesn't have the kind of firepower to compete with the rest of the demi-Gods on the Chaos side. You'd also be surprised how little intelligence matters in battle when the opponent is capable of erasing an entire planet in seconds. Although Golbez is extremely cunning, you're forgetting that many of the other Chaos characters are also of near-genius standard intellect, so Golbez isn't even necessarily the smartest fighter, either.
@694377 It's also ironic that you allowed Gabranth to finally defeat Golbez in the end (due to tiredness), since Gabranth is definitely the villain who's closest to Golbez in terms of power ... and probably Golbez's best chance of a win in a Deathmatch situation. XD
It's also ironic that you allowed Gabranth to finally defeat Golbez in the end (due to tiredness), since Gabranth is definitely the villian who's closest to Golbez in terms of power ... and probably Golbez's best chance to score a win in a Deathmatch situation like this. XD
@694377 So ... you're saying that, at best, the second most powerful characters (and even that status is not assured) in FF IV & XII are more powerful than even the most ridiculously over-powered villains from the rest of the series, yes? That would mean that Zemus/Zeromus and Vayne (in particular, as Gabranth defeated Golbez in this video) would be way, WAY more powerful than all the other immortal, universe-erasing super villains that are littered across the other titles ... right. Sure thing.
@694377 Well, it's a natural assumption to make. You make a video practically saying that Golbez has a greater battle ability than the other nine Dissidia villains, and then suggest that Gabranth's ability is even greater than that.
@694377 I then point out the fact that, as a secondary antagonist in his game with no immortality or planet-destroying powers, Golbez is at a disadvantage and wouldn't likely be able to defeat ANY of the other villains (save for possibly Gabranth) in their most powerful form, to which you disagree. Putting these things together it's easy to see why someone might think that you consider Golbez and Gabranth to be the strongest of Final Fantasy villains, no?
This video is too difficult to follow. I can't even tell what the hell is going on and by the time I realized the characters changed, they do so yet again... its like watching transformers for the first time...on fast forward.
Gabranth cheated. He only fought the epic winner. /BAN GABRANTH.
Seriously though, this was awesome. *hands Golbez a platinum 2nd place trophy encrysted with diamonds and full of money.* *Hands Gabranth a brass 1st place trophy with various poisonous animals in it*
haha, would be great if you could do "Death Matches" in Dissidia as well... That'd be funny when like 20 people all kill off each other and when an EX burst is done, the game pauses for everyone and they only see the EX burst^^
Very nice vid. Really liked it. And I gotta say..."Go Golbez!!!"...always been one of my favs...as was Kefka though...so yea. lol The old school villains were always my favorites to be quite honest, not to say the newer ones are bad at what they do.
I especially like the fact that Kuja and Garland were fighting since it has been stated by the creators of the game that due to Garland's slow speed, he wouldn't stand a chance against someone like Kuja. Power to the Players right?
Three cheers for the armoured corps. Garland, Golbez, ExDeath and Gabranth. All of them are class. Don't get me wrong though, I'd be hard pressed to say who my favorite villain is.
if you had added Gabranth, Kefka could have one at least one battle
FF6 is considerd a classick, it barly gets as much love as the others
and i do like how you :" none of the newer villains got any love in this video, just those under FFVI - think of it as a tribute to them for not getting enough love than their newer counterpar"
but you have to remember out of all of the early FF games, FF4 got a sequal "FF4 the after years" and FF5 got a movie sequal as well
... To be honest, none of the newer villains got any love in this video, just those under FFVI - think of it as a tribute to them for not getting enough love than their newer counterparts!
I honestly think you did the right thing in giving the older villains more love than the newer ones, simply because the paved the way. Emperor Mateus and Garland are undoubtedly the best villains period. And I say that as a big fan of Sephiroth.
I may make one, but it'll take time. It took me about 1 week to compile each videos together, edit, and fit... so there's a good chance of one to come!
If you don't think of me as a bitch for asking but could you maybe do a mixed fight. you know with a few heroes and villains. I'm sure that may be kind of difficult but I'd love to see something like that. NOT WITH ALL THE CHARACTERS only like 3 from each side
@sora it's just the chaos last battle one
BurgerMcFluff 2 weeks ago
I got to get back to playing Dissidia 012, my PSP broken then someone stole it... *facepalm*
I mean really, who steals a broken PSP... even the memory card is broken, umd spinner broken, door broken...
FiragaJJC 1 month ago
@FiragaJJC - Well... Sure, the PSP itself might be broken, but spare parts that it can be sold for can bring in a good sum depending. Sorry to hear that man. :(
694377 1 month ago
@Owned4Eva also I haven't lost cause your point is null and void. If you said that 8 months ago it would been valid. Now its nothing because neither me or @Soon18 care about it and has moved on. My point is more valid than your point because you decide to refereance an argument you wasn't involved to begin with. I don't care about the point of an old argument because I have other things to concern with and thats not one of them.
FiragaJJC 1 month ago
@FiragaJJC You know what? Fuck it, the fact that you left a fricken essay on my channel and decided to block means your just one of those people who just don't want to lose. Grow up kid, and yes I'm Chinese, got a problem inbred? Attacking one's ethnicity makes one smarter yup derp.
Owned4Eva 1 month ago
@Owned4Eva - Actually what is means is that he himself is the bigger man; the fact that he blocked you means that he's done with the argument that you want to dig up time and time again--and you're just as immature to provoke him into replying; not to mention the fact that you're proclaiming him as an inbred. Insulting other people isn't the action of a mature individual; act your age and contemplate your actions.
694377 1 month ago
@Owned4Eva and saying a pointless argument is pointless that happened 8 fucking months ago is more stupid than the argument you idiot. The post no longer matter and long forgotten.
FiragaJJC 1 month ago
@Owned4Eva and saying a pointless argument that happened 8 months ago is even more
FiragaJJC 1 month ago
@Owned4Eva also I find it quite stupid to reply to a comment more than 2 weeks old. This was 8 months ago a long squashed and no longer cared... Why bring this shit back up? We no longer care about the argument. I'm on to kpop and I get this mess
FiragaJJC 1 month ago
@FiragaJJC Pointless arguments are pointless, whatcha gonna do now? Do two more replies to my single reply? You tend to do that alot :)
Leave this page alone, I was merely saying how stupid the reason for this argument was, as you can see from me comparing to Pepsi Vs Coke. If you really are intent on not losing an argument, Visit my page. Leave this Page Alone ok Sweetheart? :)
Owned4Eva 1 month ago
@Owned4Eva one I'm grown and if people act like idiots on youtube I am gonna call them out. One
FiragaJJC 1 month ago
@FiragaJJC ...D'you wanna see the tier list that was compiled by the Dissidia Forums team? I'll send you it in a PM if you like. I wasn't involved in it's creation, but from what I understand it was made after many months of effort comparing each and every character against each other in Player vs Player matches. It's the most comprehensive tier list you can find on the net. It makes quite clear that Kuja and Zidane are the best characters in the game, with Terra as a close second.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 Um... since you never pkayed Doudecim yet... then you don't know how Kefka tricked both Kuja, Cloud and Sephiroth (me being a Seph fan). And I don't care for teirs list cause you have one list saying Kuja was best (and I repeat those people never fought me). and i hear Golbez and Exdeath were top teirs. Besides... Teir are for queers and my top player in dissidia is Terra who i mastered close range combat followed by Sephiroth both who i only got defeated once by.
Shawnfangirl09 10 months ago
@Soon18 And I compared character to character on player vs player already myself being that I own both Dissidia (original Japanese with the infinite combo Cloud, and English version) and I repeat about Kuja, he wasn't all that great. He a good character, but once I dodge ultima... he was nothing. In doudecim however, he's a bit faster and his serphric star homes and absorbs plus he can move while doing the attack. Flare is faster than before... so I give him credit in doudecim
Shawnfangirl09 10 months ago
@Soon18 I seen a match player vs player Golbez vs kuja and kuja got owned. it was the end of chaos stage and the golbez player wall raped him. they rematched at another stage and again kuja got owned and this kuja player is a great player. but like i said cause i studied each character in dissidia... Kuja has too many flaws which were corrected in doudecim. Zidane is a cheap character especially if people run and spam shift break so PLEASE! I don't follow tier, I follow skills.
Shawnfangirl09 10 months ago
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@Soon18 I seen a match player vs player Golbez vs kuja and kuja got owned. it was the end of chaos stage and the golbez player wall raped him. they rematched at another stage and again kuja got owned and this kuja player is a great player. but like i said cause i studied each character in dissidia... Kuja has too many flaws which were corrected in doudecim. Zidane is a cheap character especially if people run and spam shift break so PLEASE! I don't follow tier, I follow skills.
Shawnfangirl09 10 months ago
@Soon18 oh shit the comments made by Shawnfangirl09 were actually by me... i forgot to sign my little sister out before I commented. so redirect any comments to me here. I dislike Tiers cause they pissed me off. People who follows tiers only chooses those characters and tournament are boring that way. To add, in my school Golbez and Exdeath were used alot cause they are tiers. In the jap version it was Jecht
FiragaJJC 10 months ago
@mamatamba2 - Because this was made 2 years ago, before the english DFF was released.
694377 10 months ago
So... the weakest of the ten main villains wins in a free-for-all deathmatch? Only to be killed by (arguably) the second weakest villain afterwards? ...Random. The video was well made though, I'll give you that.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 - What defines "weakest"? Golbez and Gabranth are by no means weak, not at all compared to the others.
694377 10 months ago
@694377 No, I'm not saying either Gabranth or Golbez are weak by regular standards (far from it). In fact, they're both still stronger than most (if not all) of the hereos individually. However, by the standard of villains ... they're not all that. You have to remember that most of the Dissidia Chaos cast are practically Gods themselves and are easily the sinlge strongest being in their respective universe ... Golbez and Gabranth, however, are not.
Soon18 10 months ago
@694377 That's no disrespect to FF IV & XII, though. Zemus and Vayne would easily be able to compete with the other Chaos characters, it's just that Square chose to put in villains with more of a connection to the main heroes, rather than simply going for the most powerful, so FF IV is majorly disadvantaged in the power level department. Golbez would be alright if all the characters were confined to their base state, but the second we consider each villain's true power ... he's doomed. :(
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 - Opinions do not equal fact. I respect your opinion, but don't try and force it to fact without actual evidence that one can observe and see for one's self.
694377 10 months ago
@694377 ...Wait, you are kidding, right? ... No? You SERIOUSLY believe that Golbez and/or Gabranth are stronger than ALL of the other villains in Dissidia? ... Damn. That's ... wow. I'm actually stunned by that. Too stunned to even debate it with you, in fact. I guess I can go around pretending that Quina Quen is the most powerful Final Fantasy character then, because it's an opinion (despite it being a ridiculous one that goes against common sense) ... yes. Yes, indeed.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 - Now you're just jumping to assumptions. Likewise, I'm too stunned to debate this matter anymore. Let's just leave it at than and speak of this no more.
694377 10 months ago
@694377 ...Let me just ask this one question - out of sheer curiosity of your "opinion". I take it that you at least accept the established facts that Garland/Chaos, The Emperor, Cloud of Darkness, Exdeath, Kefka, Sephiroth, Ultimecia and Jecht/Sin are all the most powerful beings in their own universe, correct? You also CANNOT debate the fact that both Zemus and Vayne are stronger than Golbez and Gabranth, as this is clearly shown in their respective games.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 - And my so-called 'opinion' isn't even that. Golbez was tied with Cosmos, so I saw it right to include him and Garland with one another at the end. The inclusion of Gabranth, and his 'victory' was-how I saw it, was due to Golbez becoming tired from the his battles. This video was made at least 2 years ago, let it rest.
694377 10 months ago
@694377 Oops. Didn't see this post. If you don't wanna talk about this it's fine (and I understand that this was made a while ago), but I just want to understand your reasoning, is all. I loved your Heroes vs Villains Deathmatch video (it's in my Favourites, after all), mainly because I think that you made mostly all of the right choices as to which hero and villain should "advance" through each fight ... plus it was well edited together, of course.
Soon18 10 months ago
@694377 But then I see this video and find that you've completely rejected rational assumptions about the character's fighting ability and chosen quite possibly the least likely character to win. I understand the Cosmos connection with Golbez (and wanting the good guys to triumph), but then ... Jecht & Kuja are also allied with Cosmos to a certain degree ... and both are almost certainly more powerful than Golbez.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 I just going to say this... but never underestimate Golbez... he is more powerful than Kuja and Jecht, but power isn't anything when skills and smarts comes into play. Also I like to add that I made a vow to myself that if I lose to the Emperor that I would stop playing Dissidia because he flare is too easy to knock back. Look at my Dissidia the emperors problem and read my description box.
FiragaJJC 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC Er... I was talking about canon character power levels, bud, not gameplay standing (although Kuja is 100% better than Golbez in gameplay temrs, too ... Jecht ... mrm... debatable). But, no, Golbez is not stronger than Kuja (Trance Kuja has demonstrated the power to destroy a planet single-handedly) or Jecht (who, as Braska's Final Aeon is stronger than Sin ... who's capable of vaporizing large chunks of Spira's surface layer with ease).
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 If Kuja could have destroyed a planet single handily, he would have. Golbez has a lot of power and by far is stronger than some in the villian side. the 4 I would say that he is not is Kefka, Sephiroth, Ultimecia, and Garland in terms of there own right. but he is not the weakest of the villians at all. In fact before his mind was freed from Zemus, Golbez is a very powerful wizard with mass power. not even meteor could kill him (defeated but not killed).
FiragaJJC 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC Also, I think you'll find that Trance Kuja DID destroy a planet (his home world - Terra), otherwise I wouldn't have said it. I'd like to know why you think Golbez is stronger than any of the others - he's a secondary antagonist who's power was nowhere NEAR the level of Zeromus, the final boss of FFIV. It's also strange that you list Kefka a one of the strongest, since his destructive feats are actually even less than those of Kuja's and roughly equal to Jecht's.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 After Golbez mind was freed from Zemus, he hasn't displayed that much power, but he still has it. And if he wanted to he can own the villians of chaos side... but he can't take them on all at once. and as a Sephiroth fan, I give each villians there own rights. Golbez can't take them all at once, but one on one he stand a fair chance. Gameplay wise... Kuja is NOT 100% better than Golbez... trust me. Kuja great and annoying, but not better.
FiragaJJC 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC Er ... and what leads you to believe he has this secret power exactly? Sorry, but I prefer to go by what a character has SHOWN us they are capable of (unless it has been clearly stated that said character held back, such as Sephiroth in AC). Believe me, I'm not trying to discredit Golbez as a character (I think he's awesome), but we can't pretend he has powers he simply doesn't. Golbez has never shown feats anywhere close to some of the other Chaos characters in their true forms.
Soon18 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC As for gameplay, I think you'll find that Kuja was ranked as the best character in the game for both the original Japanese & NA versions by the fanbase in the tier lists that were made. Golbez was pretty hot shit in the Japanese version, I'll give you that (as was Jecht, actually), but both of those two got nerfed for the western releases. No idea about Duodecim yet, but Kuja seems just as formidable as ever.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 I would agree on the Jap version Jecht was powerful one and was nerfed in the american version. How ever Golbez wasn't nerfed. Kuja had many flaws in which I exploited during Dissidia. in Doudecim his flaws were fixed. Who ever thought Kuja was top shit in Dissidia obviously never fought me in Dissidia cause they would not win. In doudecim, they have a chance cause his HP attacks are more proficient. also if I remembered, Kuja destroy his homeworld with a machine not his power.
FiragaJJC 10 months ago
@Soon18 Also Kefka is powerful in his own right after taking the power of the three Gods, though he was too emotional for me. I merely stating the fact that he get into people heads and should not be taken lightly. but to fight him out, without the Triads powers, he's nothing.
FiragaJJC 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC Yes, but how powerful were those so-called "Gods" really? Given that Kefka's final goal was to destroy all existence, the fact that he was unable to destroy even one planet before he was defeated (after achieving the maximum amount of power that he could possibly attain) is actually pretty pathetic ... and this coming from someone who quite likes Kefka as a villain (he's hilarious, for sure). People overstate the title "God of Magic" without assessing his actual demonstrated power.
Soon18 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC As for "getting into people's heads", well ... all good villains did this to some extent, and the only character who Kefka affected pschologically to any serious extent is Terra, who eventually overcame her trauma, so... he wasn't so successful there, either. Anyway, as I've said, mind games have no place in a discussion about a villain's power, because none of Kefka's fellows (with the exception of Jecht, who is a villian against his will) is dumb enough to fall for such petty ploys.
Soon18 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC Also, I'm guessing that since you didn't reply to my argument, you accept my stance that Golbez, while a very powerful character, isn't quite able to compete with the other villains in their final forms? He, after all, has to resort to summong the Shadow Dragon to power up ... hardly equivalent to gaining control of a world-erasing power or becoming a God. ^_^; That is where this discussion began, after all...
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 - ... Seriously, you both can stop this now. End of discussion. >_>
694377 10 months ago
@Soon18 Hey idiot... did you not read the omments made by Shawnfangirl... that was me accidently using my sister account. And two, Golbez can compete with the other characters... DON'T PISS ME THE FUCK OFF!!! He is stronger and capable of defeating many of the chaos warriors
FiragaJJC 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC - And you too can stop this. End of discussion. >_<
694377 10 months ago
@FiragaJJC Seeing as how the last wall so far is by you, Don't call people Idiots. This whole convo is fucking retarded, like comparing Pepsi with Coke or IOS against Androids
Owned4Eva 1 month ago
@FiragaJJC Golbez is a powerful villian in his own right, but he doesn't have the kind of firepower to compete with the rest of the demi-Gods on the Chaos side. You'd also be surprised how little intelligence matters in battle when the opponent is capable of erasing an entire planet in seconds. Although Golbez is extremely cunning, you're forgetting that many of the other Chaos characters are also of near-genius standard intellect, so Golbez isn't even necessarily the smartest fighter, either.
Soon18 10 months ago
@694377 It's also ironic that you allowed Gabranth to finally defeat Golbez in the end (due to tiredness), since Gabranth is definitely the villain who's closest to Golbez in terms of power ... and probably Golbez's best chance of a win in a Deathmatch situation. XD
Soon18 10 months ago
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It's also ironic that you allowed Gabranth to finally defeat Golbez in the end (due to tiredness), since Gabranth is definitely the villian who's closest to Golbez in terms of power ... and probably Golbez's best chance to score a win in a Deathmatch situation like this. XD
Soon18 10 months ago
@694377 So ... you're saying that, at best, the second most powerful characters (and even that status is not assured) in FF IV & XII are more powerful than even the most ridiculously over-powered villains from the rest of the series, yes? That would mean that Zemus/Zeromus and Vayne (in particular, as Gabranth defeated Golbez in this video) would be way, WAY more powerful than all the other immortal, universe-erasing super villains that are littered across the other titles ... right. Sure thing.
Soon18 10 months ago
@Soon18 - ... I thought you said you were done dabating? Onward...
I said nothing of the like; you're jumping to assumptions once more.
694377 10 months ago
@694377 Well, it's a natural assumption to make. You make a video practically saying that Golbez has a greater battle ability than the other nine Dissidia villains, and then suggest that Gabranth's ability is even greater than that.
Soon18 10 months ago
@694377 I then point out the fact that, as a secondary antagonist in his game with no immortality or planet-destroying powers, Golbez is at a disadvantage and wouldn't likely be able to defeat ANY of the other villains (save for possibly Gabranth) in their most powerful form, to which you disagree. Putting these things together it's easy to see why someone might think that you consider Golbez and Gabranth to be the strongest of Final Fantasy villains, no?
Soon18 10 months ago
From my point of view the best match (terms of balance) was garland-kuja.
nothingespecial1 1 year ago
Exdeath is my fave.
Nothing can beat the Void!
Jolt4 1 year ago
@Jolt4 uh i gotta give props if you rock at exdeath thats epic in my point of view
RPGfan777 1 year ago
im gonna give you 5 stars o wait.........thumbs up than 'sigh'
MrDoomydude 1 year ago
i personally think that kuja should have won
krows2 1 year ago
The battles were all one-sided
EvilCandyProductions 1 year ago
I liked your transitions between Characters and the overall story line you had. It was Awesome!!
The45Quests 2 years ago
What the hell
Were did Gabranth come from
sonidomaster5694 2 years ago
Now the Darkness is fighting itself.
destoryofdoom 2 years ago
I am relieved for Golbez/Theodore, and laughed at some of the matches.
Not to bah any of the characters, but--come on--The Emperor, Kefka and Kuja were due for a butt kicking. ^_^"
MoonPrincessDivinity 2 years ago
This video is too difficult to follow. I can't even tell what the hell is going on and by the time I realized the characters changed, they do so yet again... its like watching transformers for the first time...on fast forward.
TheWebMaster179 2 years ago
that was so cool 5 stars
ZanderoAwesomo 2 years ago
....TURTLE!!!
LolExdeath
SisforSachiel 2 years ago
This video about the villains is cool.
destoryofdoom 2 years ago
you know golbez really does kick ass
warrenler 2 years ago 6
@warrenler IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!
dracula103192 1 year ago
Brilliant vid...
wts the name of the song you used?
sora596 2 years ago 2
Dissidia Final Fantasy's very own 'Chaos - Last Battle' music, but the full OST version.
694377 2 years ago
even though sephiroth kinda got owned in this video he iz still the coolest n i cant believe gabranth is in this game
demondante46 2 years ago
im guessing jecht ddnt survive that golbez attack :[
o well...my god....you my good man...are EPIC
chikkengreece06 2 years ago
yestaérday i downloadced the demo^^ Sephiroth is cool, cloud to.
youkh2 2 years ago
I was rooting for Garland. but since Golbez is from one of my favorite final fantasys I didn't really mind much.
Not to mention he told me that he'd knock everyone down. I told him not to get overconfident but he just laughed and walked away!
Funami2006 2 years ago
0:55 old man VS Young man
IHATEGAYFAMILYGUY 2 years ago
Gabranth cheated. He only fought the epic winner. /BAN GABRANTH.
Seriously though, this was awesome. *hands Golbez a platinum 2nd place trophy encrysted with diamonds and full of money.* *Hands Gabranth a brass 1st place trophy with various poisonous animals in it*
LuigiFanatic 2 years ago
haha, would be great if you could do "Death Matches" in Dissidia as well... That'd be funny when like 20 people all kill off each other and when an EX burst is done, the game pauses for everyone and they only see the EX burst^^
xtrem3rd 2 years ago
Very nice vid. Really liked it. And I gotta say..."Go Golbez!!!"...always been one of my favs...as was Kefka though...so yea. lol The old school villains were always my favorites to be quite honest, not to say the newer ones are bad at what they do.
wolfshinigami 2 years ago
awesome truly deserving of a 5/5
Kritos 2 years ago
3:32 - 3:42
E-P-I-C
tiamants 2 years ago 2
awsome...5/5
shababchy 2 years ago
make a heroes verus vilian. Make it just like this
virruskiller 2 years ago 3
I especially like the fact that Kuja and Garland were fighting since it has been stated by the creators of the game that due to Garland's slow speed, he wouldn't stand a chance against someone like Kuja. Power to the Players right?
Skypirateking88 2 years ago
I'm assuming that fight was a reference to FFIX.
Hakamuro 2 years ago
If you are referencing to Garland vs. Kuja in the video, then yes. :)
694377 2 years ago
Isn't the Garland out of Nine the same character as in the first ff?
michaelwatchman 2 years ago
Three cheers for the armoured corps. Garland, Golbez, ExDeath and Gabranth. All of them are class. Don't get me wrong though, I'd be hard pressed to say who my favorite villain is.
dj109567 2 years ago
Aww Sephiroth Lost. Sephiroths badass. [When used porperly] However Golbez. Is awesome. And the Gabranth thing was kinda funny xD
OblivionTwlightDemon 2 years ago
if you had added Gabranth, Kefka could have one at least one battle
FF6 is considerd a classick, it barly gets as much love as the others
and i do like how you :" none of the newer villains got any love in this video, just those under FFVI - think of it as a tribute to them for not getting enough love than their newer counterpar"
but you have to remember out of all of the early FF games, FF4 got a sequal "FF4 the after years" and FF5 got a movie sequal as well
btiensvold 2 years ago 2
BUT WHY WERE THEY FIGHTING?!?!?!?!?!
LOL
Nicely done btw.
TBS97 2 years ago
Who's a badace!? Gabranth!
Sephazon 2 years ago
I was hoping for Emperor, Ultimecia, or Garland to win but oh well
MisterX867 2 years ago
eagarly waiting on heroes vid...
..and jeeze...jecht gets no love :[
+5 stars
chikkengreece06 2 years ago
... To be honest, none of the newer villains got any love in this video, just those under FFVI - think of it as a tribute to them for not getting enough love than their newer counterparts!
694377 2 years ago
I honestly think you did the right thing in giving the older villains more love than the newer ones, simply because the paved the way. Emperor Mateus and Garland are undoubtedly the best villains period. And I say that as a big fan of Sephiroth.
Skypirateking88 2 years ago 5
Nicely done. Any plans on making a version with the heroes?
Arne83301 2 years ago 2
I may make one, but it'll take time. It took me about 1 week to compile each videos together, edit, and fit... so there's a good chance of one to come!
694377 2 years ago
If you don't think of me as a bitch for asking but could you maybe do a mixed fight. you know with a few heroes and villains. I'm sure that may be kind of difficult but I'd love to see something like that. NOT WITH ALL THE CHARACTERS only like 3 from each side
Skypirateking88 2 years ago
I'll see what I can do - but no promises! ;-)
694377 2 years ago
Thats fine I'm just glad you'd even consider it
Skypirateking88 2 years ago
Very Nice Pud, Loving It
CLOUID 2 years ago
Pretty cool
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