man i hate all this stuff about damage calculations and all that... what ever happened to the good ol' days of smack it till it goes down? XD No i'm not ragging on the people who help use these calculations im just saying i find it annoying
Killed it in the Village Elder 6* quest using a hammer with 1 minute left. Honestly it's easier than Shen Gaoren. With a Mega Demondrug, Power Seed and Striped Striker, it's only a matter of when it will die.
@Sensamur No. The weapon power is not equal to the damage it will deal. For example if you attack with a hammer with power 1000, every attack may deal 10 - 20 - 30 dmg, depending on what's your foe's level. In fact, if you use a power 1000 hammer on a boss of the easiest quests, you will deal even 50 -60- 100, because the proportion between your weapon power (1000) and the level of the boss is high. If you face an high rank boss, the same weapon may not be strong the same way.
@manoflols Red Stripe? You can't pierce even Khezu's hide with that oversized red chopstick. But yeah, I used to use Red Stripe back when I was a noob...
should i use a cat and use my red stripe to own him?im still saving to kill the shogun cenataur(im a noob)so is it advisable to teach my cat elemental dragon or fire or water or somthing else....somone please help me.......................
@manoflols : well the truth is, teaching your cat any skill won't even help because you can't even bring your cats to this quest, lol. And if you can use a better greatsword like Brunhild or something with a raw power of 700-800. Red stripe won't be enough to repel him, let alone kill Lung.
I use Devil Slicer on my first battle and manage to repel him. Kill him later with Smolder Dragonsword. and oh, these two weapons are Long Swords
@Shelton1808 i play, but i cant go on th e whol einternet seeing other people, my network got messes up, oh and im a noob because ur probably really high rank and im on HR4, with diablos armor and tryin gto get sword of the diablos, maybe something else, an di do possess blue sharped weapons.
ummm to add to your video..... if you take a few more large barrel bombs and th materials to make some large barrel bomb+ you can break his horn the moment he enters the first arena with one hit after like 8 bombs go off lol
how do get to fight a pre G-rank lao shan lung i need to know becuse im trying to make a wepon that requiers a lao horn so plz tell me how to fight a lao befor hr4
I finally killed Azure Lao Shan Lung. Onslaught Hammer and basic Azure Rathalos Armor was all I needed. :-) Though that Lao Shan Carapace is effing rare. I just need one more.
Lao only has 2400hp,thats less than almost any other elder dragon,but the thing is,his hp stops going down at 1240 until the last map,there you can own him with EVERYTHING :)
when i attacked him when i used hacks it said he had 2400 hp total and it stopped going down in the 1200's until the final area,where i owned him completely in 2 seconds,the hp hack says he has 2400 hp though
lao doesnt really attack you , he just kinda walk to the castle , you might get hurt if u stand where his foot goes but otehr then dat you good w/o getting hurt
to get to a red lao shan lung cuz im trying to get the smolder dragon sword and all i got to is all cheif missions done now i need to do guild so thats y i ask
question? Will my full rathalos set work and i also have an onlaught hammer. And a cenataur head axe. But i still cant kill it. i use bombs in every area with combining. exept for area 5. dragonator balista. but im still unable to repel it........
Whenever I fight Lao... I hurt him... break his horn, and detonate the bombs on his back... and Shoot him up with the ballista and skewer him with the Dragonator... But I loose to him, because I always run out of time, which is pretty frikkin' embarrasing... Must you kill Lao, or make him flee?
its becouse the tigrex bow sucks when it comes to going through things, becouse it doesent have pierce, you wanna go with the dark bow || or the onslought hammer (anvil hammer works fine) but if you use the bow, stand by his side, and aim upwards so it goes through his side up into his back, should kill him or at least repel him.
@CitizenTempest It's simple, just get to the 8 star elder quests You can mine it in the Old Volcano and the +3 mining spot that opens when you reach 8 stars
Azure lao Shan Lung has more HP than Lao shan lung and it's much more stronger because it's in high rank and G-Rank and the normal lao shan lung can only be fought in low rank
i attack flies... i kill them with deadly speed and precision. i once even ripped a flies wing off in mid air with my finger. damn, now you made me scared of lao. i hope your happy.
i know but i didnt get to him yet. i just got to the hr4 urgent lao shan lung and i still have my crappy devil slicer, wyvern blade blood, wyvern blade verde, tigrex tooth and white mantis...
Lao shan Lung...they make his description seem so menacing...hes more like a teddy bear than an elder dragon i had more trouble on kirin than this dude
i am absoloutely shit with hammers so i use LS could you please either put up a LS vid or tell me what a good LS is to use against him for the hr4-5 urgent?
can you say to me maybe like you the camera so quietly has held or which trick you have used like with the Lao-Shan video as an example??? more sore you about my English I it am not from Germany and uses google Translater sincerely yaden2222
lol at @1234567890nam it effing meanz ure a hacker. Killing lao with noob weapons.
Darkelectrohunter 2 weeks ago
i killed lao shan lung with paint balls you weaklings
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halogunman4 5 months ago
in order to hit faster the stomach.. wouldn't be easier with the spear?
th3g1n0 5 months ago
first lao shan tip .... smackhim in da baaaaaaaaaaaalz XD
gentel916 6 months ago
lol i love how u can find a monster hunter video in the music section XD
gentel916 6 months ago
whoa, i tangled with some big dragons but damn 0_0,amatsumagatsuchi better lol
TheMasterk1lla 6 months ago
man i hate all this stuff about damage calculations and all that... what ever happened to the good ol' days of smack it till it goes down? XD No i'm not ragging on the people who help use these calculations im just saying i find it annoying
wexx18 7 months ago
Killed it in the Village Elder 6* quest using a hammer with 1 minute left. Honestly it's easier than Shen Gaoren. With a Mega Demondrug, Power Seed and Striped Striker, it's only a matter of when it will die.
Zemedin 9 months ago
is long sword useless to kill this motherfucker? what is the BEST weapon to kill this piece of shit bcause it really pisses me off.
VistaManiac93 9 months ago
your killing a baby lao shun lung you know.its parents were eaten by a fatalis
gedor1000 10 months ago
hey if Lao-Shan has 24k hp and i hit him 24 times with 1k damage hammer it means that he will die? i dont know to calculate the damage
Sensamur 1 year ago
@Sensamur No. The weapon power is not equal to the damage it will deal. For example if you attack with a hammer with power 1000, every attack may deal 10 - 20 - 30 dmg, depending on what's your foe's level. In fact, if you use a power 1000 hammer on a boss of the easiest quests, you will deal even 50 -60- 100, because the proportion between your weapon power (1000) and the level of the boss is high. If you face an high rank boss, the same weapon may not be strong the same way.
666GothicLord666 9 months ago
@manoflols Red Stripe? You can't pierce even Khezu's hide with that oversized red chopstick. But yeah, I used to use Red Stripe back when I was a noob...
And yeah, I can see that you're a noob 0__o
EmberSparkMS 1 year ago
When it comes to good hammers, is Great Demon hammer good to use against the Lung?
msbbs2 1 year ago
how do u use a dragonator? Can it do damage on shan gaoren?
BoVB22 1 year ago
@BoVB22
Go to it and click the o button. Yes any monster close enough will take damage
RoboLanLan 1 year ago
how do u use a dragonator? Can it do damage on shan gaoren?
BoVB22 1 year ago
how do you make ballista S
manoflols 1 year ago
how many times can u carve him after his dead
manoflols 1 year ago
should i use a cat and use my red stripe to own him?im still saving to kill the shogun cenataur(im a noob)so is it advisable to teach my cat elemental dragon or fire or water or somthing else....somone please help me.......................
manoflols 1 year ago
@manoflols : well the truth is, teaching your cat any skill won't even help because you can't even bring your cats to this quest, lol. And if you can use a better greatsword like Brunhild or something with a raw power of 700-800. Red stripe won't be enough to repel him, let alone kill Lung.
I use Devil Slicer on my first battle and manage to repel him. Kill him later with Smolder Dragonsword. and oh, these two weapons are Long Swords
14mobius 1 year ago
can i ask you something?
if i only repelled the LaoS, Will it have the same health if i do the mission again? or is it a completely refreshed LaoS
elipaul17 1 year ago
Doesn't seem too hard...I guess I'll go try. Is a Tigrex Hammer considered a "good hammer"? <_<
SollaceLux 1 year ago
Imagine his feelings when everyone hit his balls
Alex92kronus 1 year ago
0:30 TAME HIS ASS lol
JusticeJustJ 1 year ago
by strong hammer u mean onslought hammer? the thjing is i can find onion ore
theleoj91 1 year ago
who ever plays this game please comments back
Shelton1808 1 year ago
@Shelton1808 i play, but i cant go on th e whol einternet seeing other people, my network got messes up, oh and im a noob because ur probably really high rank and im on HR4, with diablos armor and tryin gto get sword of the diablos, maybe something else, an di do possess blue sharped weapons.
ZoraKnight50 1 year ago
@Shelton1808 empty comment?
Duxasblt 1 year ago
im so glad MHNoodles coreected that cock nipple twist....its sluts like that that slow people back... "own it with everything"?
deadorbz5 1 year ago
you can carve at his back...!!!
I can't belive I never know that...
isvan137 1 year ago
Actually i have the guide book and lao azure has 26666 hp.. hes weakest to fire and dragon.
gangstabunny99 1 year ago
ummm to add to your video..... if you take a few more large barrel bombs and th materials to make some large barrel bomb+ you can break his horn the moment he enters the first arena with one hit after like 8 bombs go off lol
ninetailedfox398 1 year ago
few things why hit the stomach and not the head (weak point or sumthing) wats the best to kill him sword or hammer thnx
dmxdog123456 1 year ago
fuck you
moku4 1 year ago
I pretty much did the same as you only i used the dragonator when he stands up and walk towards the gate.
JetRaven100 1 year ago
how do get to fight a pre G-rank lao shan lung i need to know becuse im trying to make a wepon that requiers a lao horn so plz tell me how to fight a lao befor hr4
Zeratol001 1 year ago
@Zeratol001 complete all hr 2+3 quests and ull get the quest to defend the fort from lao
JonnyALC 1 year ago
how is that weapon??
daniele27993 1 year ago
azure lao shun 24,000 hp red lao shun 20,000
2dowork2 1 year ago
@2dowork2 and grey?
daniele27993 1 year ago
i owned lao shan lung with my uklanos slicer.
superkool2 1 year ago
your attack is 816? I tried to kill the Lao Shang Lung red with a 816 sword attack and Tigrex armor, but I can not!
Daemon810 1 year ago
@Daemon810 LOL??? u can't solo lao shan??
nenji10 1 year ago
when i fought thae gaoren i panicked when i hade 2 min left and when the time was up i still one :)
MrFunkymonkee 1 year ago
it is better to wear full chameleos for quake resistance
MrBUBBLS909 1 year ago
I finally killed Azure Lao Shan Lung. Onslaught Hammer and basic Azure Rathalos Armor was all I needed. :-) Though that Lao Shan Carapace is effing rare. I just need one more.
AlbusLumen 1 year ago
well most of the time i repel lao
but when i use certain weapons (dual and hammer and maybe GS) i kill him
very easy and his weapons are cool
assholemon 1 year ago
why would you hack one of the best damn video games ever made?
flirtwd 1 year ago
@flirtwd maybe for the lulz
assholemon 1 year ago
Lao only has 2400hp,thats less than almost any other elder dragon,but the thing is,his hp stops going down at 1240 until the last map,there you can own him with EVERYTHING :)
explor9 1 year ago
@explor9 He doesn't have 2,400, he has 24,000+ HP and it stops going down at 1000, not 1240. You can't own him with everything.
MHNoodles 1 year ago
when i attacked him when i used hacks it said he had 2400 hp total and it stopped going down in the 1200's until the final area,where i owned him completely in 2 seconds,the hp hack says he has 2400 hp though
explor9 1 year ago
@explor9 Your hack must be wrong then. It takes 1200 HP just to stagger his stomach once.
MHNoodles 1 year ago
It must've been too long of a number to fit in the area?its normally right though...
explor9 1 year ago
@MHNoodles are there other kinds of elder dragons or just one
extremegamer200 1 year ago
@MHNoodles he meant 24000 hp probs
teoarrk 1 year ago
@MHNoodles you have the same name as me...except u spell it differently...hmmmmmm
FalloutMassacure 8 months ago
@explor9 it said 24000
TheMhf2man 1 year ago
@TheMhf2man how did you even manage to dig that up XD that was like 2 years ago
explor9 1 year ago
@explor9 i got bored and looked at the comments ^_^
TheMhf2man 1 year ago
noob you cant even kill laos i owned hiim with noob weapons
1234567890nam 1 year ago
@explor9 or maybe you saw the hp wrongly...
jijiooze 8 months ago
@MHNoodles if he has 24,000 and it doesnt go down till the last map then how much does it need to repel him
dgraymanallen 1 year ago
@dgraymanallen i believe he needs below 40% HP to be repelled
elipaul17 1 year ago
@MHNoodles this thing is unkilleble realy I scared it away 4 times but he stil isnt dead
wowgek7 1 year ago
@MHNoodles you can own him....
dieterman3 1 year ago
k jest maken shur thow i have to kill the lao shan lung thats the 4 star urgent
Zeratol001 1 year ago
is there cheat because theres no damage on you
sorry cuz i have no quest yet in lao shan
killerjames56 1 year ago
lao doesnt really attack you , he just kinda walk to the castle , you might get hurt if u stand where his foot goes but otehr then dat you good w/o getting hurt
chuckielong1 1 year ago
how kan i fight a lao-shan lung without goen over to g-rank quests i plan on using a azur rathlos GS and full tigrex
p.s. need the sonnest time to kill with in the first 3 star giuld quests
Zeratol001 2 years ago
ok you need to clear out all of the 3 and 4 star guild hall quest
chuckielong1 1 year ago
to get to a red lao shan lung cuz im trying to get the smolder dragon sword and all i got to is all cheif missions done now i need to do guild so thats y i ask
Zeratol001 1 year ago
yeah trying to built dat sword too , not turning out so good T_T
chuckielong1 1 year ago
and one more thang i need elder dragon blood and that sword is too strong thats y i want it its raw 800 and drag atra 550
Zeratol001 1 year ago
elder dragon blood uh just kill any elder dragon for it , kirin dont have it i think and the rest elder dragon should have it
chuckielong1 1 year ago
will the blango full set and anvil hammer will kill lao-shan lung?
Sinknight89 2 years ago
question? Will my full rathalos set work and i also have an onlaught hammer. And a cenataur head axe. But i still cant kill it. i use bombs in every area with combining. exept for area 5. dragonator balista. but im still unable to repel it........
digimonteddy2 2 years ago
@digimonteddy2 it will be better if you have a dragon attribute hammer
MHP2GVideos 1 year ago
jump on is back
animalisbest12 2 years ago
oh that how i get elder dragon bone
camzylamzy77 2 years ago
um..the 7th comment there's red lao shan lung in the offline-online quest
but u have to clear all 1-3 star in bar quests it will appear in hr2-3 im not sure
i hope this helps
ueki2323 2 years ago 2
shit i did'nt kill this thing
just having full kushala set and dragonbreaker
shit!
ysaw2004 2 years ago
DOEs It Take Like 40 Minutes To Get To ZoNe 5?!?
Losttooth15 2 years ago
so weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
losttooth14 2 years ago
i need lao shan horn for fire dragonsword but i cant find any normal lao shan only ash lao at hr4 can any one message me if they no of another
some1call999ImDying 2 years ago
there is one on the online-offlline hall. I think it is hr6. If u keep trying it will give u a horn!
thee121 2 years ago
@some1call999ImDying
Try completing the *easy* hr quests, the original version should be the 4th series of quests if i'm not mistaken.
daewooharvey 2 years ago
is this high rank lao? i mean ash lao shan lung?
TheDELTA091 2 years ago
thx
bastiancook 2 years ago
Feel sorry for whoever has to keep rebuildin that fort when Lao Shan just busts it the F*** down
Sunce543 2 years ago
It looks like an onslaught hammer. It's really high attack and easy to get
evlmnkybtr 2 years ago
lol
lilvoice32 2 years ago
Wats ur weapon? It lacks sharpness
rdcracker 2 years ago
this guy is a movving mountain
CesarTakezoNomura1 2 years ago
you are wearing a azure rathalos armor?
CesarTakezoNomura1 2 years ago
is easy wth a katana
pumping18 2 years ago
Whenever I fight Lao... I hurt him... break his horn, and detonate the bombs on his back... and Shoot him up with the ballista and skewer him with the Dragonator... But I loose to him, because I always run out of time, which is pretty frikkin' embarrasing... Must you kill Lao, or make him flee?
SmithOfGear92 2 years ago
you can really do eather it happens by skill or luck
Sunce543 2 years ago
kill him
camzylamzy77 2 years ago
are you filming this on a tv?
sexyhitsugaya 2 years ago
is it ok if i use the tactical blade??
029Co 2 years ago
that is one large monster..
LowBasslin3 2 years ago
what hammer did u use????
anvil or anslougth ????
does it have affinity???
vinceyap31 2 years ago
Onslaught look at the sharpness of the wep Xd
Sahken 2 years ago
can anyone tell me where tot get the emperor cricket????
cause i want to upgrade my onlaugth hammer....plssss can anyone tell me??
vinceyap31 2 years ago
I've got full Kirin armor and tigerex bow II but I can't kill it!!!!!!!
ninjacheese00 2 years ago
use ceantaur head axe to KILL HR5 lao, or the elder lao
GreenSourApple1 2 years ago
its becouse the tigrex bow sucks when it comes to going through things, becouse it doesent have pierce, you wanna go with the dark bow || or the onslought hammer (anvil hammer works fine) but if you use the bow, stand by his side, and aim upwards so it goes through his side up into his back, should kill him or at least repel him.
XwolfbroX 2 years ago
hey how do you get union ores at hr4???i've got anvil hammer but no union ore
helloman2000bibafh 2 years ago
the bombs are in the supply box at the beginning.
dracothedragonite 2 years ago
i've just tried for the 15th time but it don't want to die...i have the tigrex armor and the tigrex hammer...better than this...
MrXIIIrD 2 years ago
idk bout tigrex armor but i do know that you shouldn't use a tigrex hammer or any of tiggy's weapons because they all have negative affinity
icewyrm711 2 years ago
and I think he's using the blue rathalos armor
MrXIIIrD 2 years ago
Yeah, he's got that and the Onslaught. Although I'm not sure how you get Union Ore at HR4 yet.
CitizenTempest 2 years ago
@CitizenTempest It's simple, just get to the 8 star elder quests You can mine it in the Old Volcano and the +3 mining spot that opens when you reach 8 stars
SuperDarknut 1 year ago
pressing "O" in front of the red button... aniway,when u are on his back it looks really like in Shadow "Of The Colossus",lol :D
MrXIIIrD 2 years ago
how do you attach with the dragonator???
pspgamer191 2 years ago
Hey what armor you using?
feyue6000 2 years ago
hmmm i like rise againsts new songs beter
JellyProductionsN 2 years ago
hahahaa gkoul7 cant kill it lol u can kill i with high rank 1 equipment u monoblos set and wyvern blood sword hahaha
LeoClien 2 years ago
interesting...im curious, do you actually kill or just repel him? also it looks like your using full rathlos soul + anvil hammer?
icewyrm711 2 years ago
if your fast enough you can actually kill him
Etoinks 2 years ago
well when i kill it it's head always get stuck in the wall n i can't carve that place, got any suggestion on what i should do?
darkskullxxx 2 years ago
my hr is 3 and I can't kill that thing
gkoul7 2 years ago
nice, think you could do a guide with duel swords. ant find one anywhere. thnx in advance
reaper33223 2 years ago
Is the 3-combo better or a charge slam
GamerforLife8724 2 years ago
yea does more damage
pauligii 2 years ago
the 3 hit combo
pauligii 2 years ago
You seem to have a lot of critical hits.
Do you have the Reckless Abandon skill?
HamM09101 2 years ago
how do you get the low rank lao shan
Darkwingful 2 years ago
hr5 urgent quest
aw34a4 2 years ago
Clear all 3* and 4* Guild quests.
It should pop up in the 4* quests after that.
HamM09101 2 years ago
me to which hammer is that and who do u fight to get it?
brawlerking002 2 years ago
i tihnk the hammer is called onslaught o_O
PeterThao1 2 years ago
Sorry i'm italian and i don't speak english very good. The hammer who you use in the video is the Assault hammer or the Anvil hammer?
Aifatlakakka 2 years ago
Anvil hammer, I think you can upgrade it :D
Neostrik3r 2 years ago
i like the music in area 5
it gets you pumping
AlejandroAlberto1996 2 years ago
you sucks !
classicman002 2 years ago
good thing about him is u dont have to paintball him hes so big u can find him easy!
TheSuperSultana 2 years ago
so would anyone say this is easy you just need good equips and the right skill and timing?
doggleshewy 2 years ago
yea wats the difference?
hhu15 2 years ago
wat the diif between ash lao shan lung and lao shan lung whoses stronger?
JMeepok 2 years ago
azure is stronger! :P
DARKRAIJED 2 years ago
uhmm actually your wrong.
Azure lao Shan Lung has more HP than Lao shan lung and it's much more stronger because it's in high rank and G-Rank and the normal lao shan lung can only be fought in low rank
Vendetta130 2 years ago
oh.. i guessed that, bcoz of the comparison btween rathalos and azure rathalos.. thnx
DARKRAIJED 2 years ago
NO Problem
Vendetta130 2 years ago
i attack flies... i kill them with deadly speed and precision. i once even ripped a flies wing off in mid air with my finger. damn, now you made me scared of lao. i hope your happy.
sniper11235 2 years ago
Nice Music Man!!!
IronMaiden2308 2 years ago
rathalos soul u and anvil or onslaught hammer? nice
I have monoblos s w/ true devil sliced and onslaught.
bubblzzz4 2 years ago
you got true devil slicer? i want one but i cant get any thunder sacs.
sniper11235 2 years ago
kill khezu over and over
doggleshewy 2 years ago
i know but i didnt get to him yet. i just got to the hr4 urgent lao shan lung and i still have my crappy devil slicer, wyvern blade blood, wyvern blade verde, tigrex tooth and white mantis...
sniper11235 2 years ago
then use wyvern blade blood(it's the 2nd best weapon to use againts lao shan lung if you don't have smolder dragonsword)
Vendetta130 2 years ago
done. thanks.
sniper11235 2 years ago
Welcome
Vendetta130 2 years ago
note to playa :
Lao and Gaoren both has rage modes (visible when you notice they move faster).
If you get hit then, you suffer damage x 1.5.
G Rank Lao = 10+ rage modes in 30min
G Rank Gaoren =10+ rage modes in 30min
To slay ash Lao solo, you must make it flinch every 2 Greatsword full Charge hits on the head.
darkgodnaar 2 years ago
i request, offline gathering hall HR2 Lao Shan Lung(normal) with eager cleaver, may you make this video?
EngZerJun 2 years ago
Lao shan Lung...they make his description seem so menacing...hes more like a teddy bear than an elder dragon i had more trouble on kirin than this dude
kazuma191 2 years ago
I'd prefer to use my lance. I haven't found a dragon yet that my lance couldn't crush, or pierce as the case may be, I prefer my Katana's though
Disukehyuga 2 years ago
me and my bro need help killing the ash loa shang. Can any1 of u help us?
20salmon 2 years ago
i am absoloutely shit with hammers so i use LS could you please either put up a LS vid or tell me what a good LS is to use against him for the hr4-5 urgent?
BiscuitOfLies 2 years ago
wtf did he even attack you
Halogn 2 years ago
not realy but he haves damage
HaloMasterChief2100 2 years ago
He can Attack you, when your under him you can get squashed or when he breaks that big wooden tower
Vendetta130 2 years ago
just a question dude what armor are u using?
lapinsopa012 2 years ago
It's a rathalos Soul U --> you can made it in high rank quests in guildhall.
l4s3r7 2 years ago
dang 10mins left. is it usually this long?
warnexus 2 years ago
I made it, it died! Thanks to the video man :D I kill it in 29:58, which means, there's only 2 sec left XD
blackfire13s 2 years ago
i was using the GS Judgement and time was up but it said i failed :/ do you just have to do a hell load of damage on this one??
666spawnofsatan666 2 years ago
Is it even possible to kill him????
tigermix83 2 years ago 2
yeah. ive done it.
dragonspeaker95 2 years ago
errr...i dont think so
I think you only repel him
PkSlayers1 2 years ago
can you say to me maybe like you the camera so quietly has held or which trick you have used like with the Lao-Shan video as an example??? more sore you about my English I it am not from Germany and uses google Translater sincerely yaden2222
yaden222222 2 years ago
umm not to say ur wrong or anything
but why is it bad to hit the head?i thought it does good damage in the beggining when it eneters an area
pecties 2 years ago