IL2 6DOF, Freetrack, 6 IR LED webcam, GlovePIE

[lollingturtle]

Guys, go check out facetracknoir, it does the same but you dont need to take apart your cam or build a dork hat, (no offence meant to anyone, i too have a teletubby headpiece ;), but this works just as well as freetrack for me so i have switched.

Spread the word :)

[MrLinuxkid]

saw you on this: forum(dot)free-track(dot)net/i­ndex(dot)php?showtopic=1912

[VLDVDIMA111]

rcvd well profile settings - much tks for your prompt reply! спасибо за быстрый ответ!

[VLDVDIMA111]

made it same - but movements not so smooth as yours - could you provide settings/curves - teach us pls!

[nitronen]

@VLDVDIMA111 Hi, I just send you PM, because it's impossible to post link to image here.

[VLDVDIMA111]

@nitronen rcvd well profile settings - much tks for your prompt reply! спасибо за быстрый ответ!

[nitronen]

@VLDVDIMA111 I am glad everything is ok, have nice flying ;)

[futabadell]

This is really awesome!!

[verymegasoft]

cool cap

[JARMOPOWER]

Interested in a squad as you play Il-2?

[nitronen]

I play with 102nd-YU squadron. But, these days I am not so active :)

[JARMOPOWER]

Roger that =)

[Aircn1017]

@nitronen can u give me the scrip of the GlovePIE you used in the il2 ,I have made the freetrack same with you I need your help,it's only have the 4dof in the il2 now ,no 6dof why?

[nitronen]

@Aircn1017: Didn't used glovePie for a long time so I don't have my own script at this moment. But, there is still an old topic at freetrack forum where you can get it. I will send you link to that page via PM.

IL2 supports only 2DOF, but there is 6DOF mod available.

S!

[Aviation7997]

@nitronen Hey can you make a video on how to smooth movement and tell me your settings?

[nitronen]

@Aviation7997 you got PM.

[Stukafighter]

which version of IL-2 you use? do you use some mods?

[sheaprodigy]

hi there does the leds need to be red on the webcam as i have seen other webcams with white led?

[tristao9]

Hi there

Can you tell me what kind of tape (if it is a tape) you use on your hat to reflect the infrared?

[RFXCasey]

@tristao9 I would assume any highly reflective tape would work but the reflective stuff they use on sneakers or safety vest might work best.

[dolcissimojanki]

I did everything but can not activate it. how do I do?

[RFXCasey]

@dolcissimojanki Probably already got the answer to this but you have to set the usetrackIR option in you config.cfg file to 1 for on.

[Cayvin]

i just bought an 6 led ir Webcam for fsx. do you have to adjust or remove anything on webcam.

[YukiLT]

I'm planning on buying this, can the IR from the webcam damage your eyes?

[Muphlon]

no, not from camera not from independent IR LEDs.

[HungryWoOki3]

Not more than your monitor backlight damages your eyes..

[MrLinuxkid]

@HungryWoOki3 I b=need to know what do you mean?

[RFXCasey]

@YukiLT No it's very low as far as intensity is concerned. You probably get more IR on a sunny day.

[733nava]

Cool, That was Bach playing in the background Right, liked it, thanks.

[schreibmichab]

Could you give me the script u used ? i wana do that too thx

[nitronen]

Sorry, i don't have that script at this moment. but there is a topic at freetrack website named "freetrack through home network" or something like that.. so, there you can find script and additional info.

[VanguardDragon]

Hmm, the Freetrack site says that IL2 can only let you look up, down, left and right. yet you seem to be able to move your whole head left and right as well

[nitronen]

It can be possible with 6DOF mod (6 degrees of freedom). You can download it at All Aircraft Arcade website.

[VanguardDragon]

Ohhh, awesome, thankyou!

[Notanotherspambot]

What's the model of your Webcam?

[ced3E]

wiimote :p

[FS9Clips]

just realized i have the exact same hat as you :D

[FS9Clips]

intreted in the reflective ribbon..how much does it cost for just a little?

[nitronen]

This is quote from my earlier comment:

"You can get reflective material for points if you buy traffic reflective vest, used for trafic control etc.. it could be found in any auto accessories store. "

It works very fine.

Cheers!

[nitronen]

I forgot to say.. price of that reflective vest is about a 3-4 euros, i think. And you get material for thousand caps :D

[FS9Clips]

:D :D :D getting some of that stuff tomorrow morning asap!!!..but does it work as good as LEDs

[nitronen]

I was trying many setups with LEDs, but this is best opinion for me. When compared with my previous LED setups, this works better for me.

If you find several types of vests, chose that with thickest reflective material.

Also, keep in mind, you can place material around some ball or curved shape to increase reflective angle of it.

S!

[FS9Clips]

OK ill try this stuff out if i can find any.

Thanks

[FS9Clips]

one more thing... i dont need a IR LED to this to work good do I

[Firedexsters]

energetic fun smart and loves this video

great vid ya

[Aircn1017]

can you offer the mend of the 6dof software in the il2?I only have the FreeTrack2.2.279 but no 6dof in il2!

[Aircn1017]

Ok and how to made the distance better between the point on the hat?what is the dimension the point need?

[Aircn1017]

I want to know what is the tpye of your camera and how much? is it the belowe type?

A4Tech PK 333 MB

* Good FPS, around 30.

* Low jitter.

* Easy removal IR filter.

* Small.

* Cheap. but the fps only have 30 the image may be slow

[nitronen]

That's it.. FPS is interpolated by Freetrack and movements are very smooth for me.

[Aircn1017]

do your mean is must put a black tape over the sensor

[nitronen]

you can put anything you want, it's just important to isolate sensor from ambient light.

[Aircn1017]

this free track ir is very best but I have two problem what is the material of the reflective points on the hat and what is the material on the camera which you flip it at the video begin and what is the purpose

[nitronen]

there is a photo sensor on the top of this camera, mounted to give to camera info about how much light is available in the room. and when you put black tape over that sensor, camera gives more power to IR leds.

you can get reflective material for points if you buy traffic reflective vest, used for trafic control etc.. it could be found in any auto accessories store.

[akevbodesign]

thats retarded.. when u are lookin to the right behind u, how do u see the monitor... idiot.. just get a joystick and a mouse

[nitronen]

i already written several times about that.. thanks for that "idiot" stuff..

[patio87]

AHAHA think about you dumb ass. His movements are exaggerated by freetrack.

[nitronen]

actually, there is no need for second computer. it works perfectly on single machine. this was just little test ;)

[jgabase]

is it always necessary a second computer? or.. is it possible to run your application and the game under the same PC?

[poon4meee]

just a quick question ... does it only work in a darkened room ... what happens if there is a light above your desk? would that interfere with the reflective circles?

[poon4meee]

oh and did you remove any filters or anything?

[nitronen]

Yeah, sorry I forgot to say that I removed IR filter from camera. It is very easy to do and you can find how to do it on the internet.

Ambient light can interfere with points when it is too sunny outside. Then you can put piece of some negative film over camera lens to filter ambient light.

In cloudy days everything works perfect for me.

[kuntosjedebil]

It seems strange to me that a camera which uses built-in IR leds for illumination, would have an IR filter.

[vespira]

You can skip the whole modification route and use a Nintendo Wiimote. They are about $40 and Freetrack 2.2 supports them now.

Check out my video that shows Wiimote+Freetrack for an example.

[rockahdelic]

guess what you're turning your eyes away from the monitor too... pffff

[nitronen]

I am using this setup for one year without any problem and it perfectly comfortable for my eyes and neck. You probably never tried something similar, so you give such comments.

There is linear setting for movement sensitivity and it works perfect.

[DxCav8r]

Is that the "MTB" from JO I see there? *wink wink*

Did I understand correctly that you're getting Freetrack input on laptop and via GlovePie getting to desktop? If so, I'd like to hear more about that.

[nitronen]

yeah.. JO MTB ;)

you are right for laptop input also..

there is a theme on freetrack community website about how to setup it.. an there is glove pie code for that setup.

S! ;)

[0011010001]

im receiving the data in the debug box in glovepie but in the game (rfactor and lfs) the cam is not moving :(, do you know what could be wrong?

[nitronen]

hmmm, i am not sure.. it's best for you to post detailed question at freetrack forum if you aren't yet.

[0011010001]

the problem was that i forgot to close an instance of free track in the pc where i was running the game lol i got it working but i the webcam is like 8 to 10 fps, i will get a better one

[smartmind23]

What are you using the GlovePie script for?

[nitronen]

Just to connect freetrack on laptop with IL2 on desktop computer.

[tysiek123]

Those LEDs are not IR. IR is invisible for human eye. IR is in TV pilots, cell phones -> irda (sony ericson like). They are just normal red LEDs.

[nitronen]

you can find IR light as a part of simple electric bulb light specter..LED's from tv remote are just one of million ways to produce IR light..

Also, this video is captured by camera, not with human eye :) you can see TV remote LED's lighting blue if you watching them through webcam.

[0011010001]

if you put a few near your face the cam cant see you lol

[jacksparrowlol]

cool it woud be cooler if it was a mobil screen

[jumpjack2]

nice.

It's really a pity the monitor stays right there while your head turns backward!!!

[schmalzfaust]

Where to get those red IR LEDs?

[uufflakke07]

Go to a store where they fix tv sets, radio's or this kind of stuff. It with cost you almost nothing. Another option is to get them out of the redcoloured backlight of your bike (the modern ones with flickering lights) In my case it works real good.

[leedime2]

radio shack

[kestrel7e7]

Great stuff!