9/11 Firefighters Testimony On Explosions In WTC1

[Dulcimerea]

look up "Jimmy Grillo second interview"

[Dulcimerea]

This testimony alone is (was) more than enough reason for NIST to test for explosives, but of course, they didn't.

[banostor]

Inside job if ever i saw one..... guys get your heads out of the sand and take a look at your own government..... baaaaa baaaa baaaaa

[VRJensen1]

Sounds like a Thermite Infestation. I'm guessing either either a very thorough group of terrorists...

or more likely...False Flag justification of an Afghanistan invasion, so Big Oil could have their resources....

[crowman733]

9/11 was our version of the Reichstag fire and the Patriot Act was our version of the Enabling Act.

[stefyluvsjunky]

thats sad . i feel bad for the blond guy bleeding , his pissed , frusterated , and worst of all his walkie - talkie dont work .

[modshroom]

9/11 was done by a bunch of pissed off muslims.

bush knew shit was going to happen to help em go to war for oil but not to this extent. fuckoff with all these theories.

[Dulcimerea]

@modshroom

Thank you for your scientific analysis.

[goateedswinger]

Lol, that's just a list of dodgy things the greedy fucknuts in charge get up to.

"Disaster Capitalism" and "Overarching and Ongoing Conspiracy" are two different things, something you troofer pinocchio types with never understand if you live to be 500.

But don't let us interrupt your mad narrative, it's nothing if not entertaining : )

[egderegor]

It wuz 19 arbs wif Box cuders Bush sed so

[fakeyf9]

Under the cross chatter the mustachioed fire fighter says something about the Brooklyn Navy Yard when the first plane hit. Google "911 Marriott explosion" and there is another video of a witness that says the whole side of the Marriott exploded out into the street were he was standing. And the Marriott lobby exploding is actually more suspicious that if was just the North tower lobby.

[josarhus]

@fakeyf9 So you agree that they were not in the lobby of the North Tower, but in the lobby of the Marriott Hotel?

What they are describing is the collapse of the South Tower unto the Marriott. It is obvious that a collapse of a 400 meter tall building unto a much smaller building, not only would feel like an explosion, the aftermath would also look like it.

Ladder Company 24 first responded to the WTC AFTER the second plane hit.

[fakeyf9]

@josarhus The one firefighter says "24,24" into his radio meaning they were with Company 24. The black firefighter said there were THREE explosions and THEN the lobby came down on them.This synchs up with what dozens and dozens of other witnesses who saw explosions happen throughout the WTC from BEFORE the first plane hit and then the whole time until the towers were imploded.I thought this video was shot before the towers exploded into dust. My mistake.

[josarhus]

@fakeyf9 When the towers collapsed, they both collapsed from the top, man massive parts of debris hit the ground and surrounding buildings before the entire building completely collapsed. Massive parts of debris hitting ground and buildings will and do sound like explosions. No evidence exist at all, that any kind of planted explosives were used.

The fact that they are from Ladder 24, tells you a lot about who they are, when they arrived and where they went on 9/11.

[Dulcimerea]

@josarhus "No evidence exist at all, that any kind of planted explosives were used." On the contrary, much of the available evidence indicates the extremely HIGH probability of explosives and the extremely LOW probability of collapses WITHOUT explosives.

Concrete does NOT turn to dust from falling through air, for example.

Much of the floor concrete became the "cloud". Maybe concrete can smash itself to powder, just by falling on itself, on Jupiter; but not on Earth..

[josarhus]

@Dulcimerea What evidence are you talking about?

Yes concrete used for floor slaps do, it is not the kind you use building bunkers. The light concrete used will turn to dust, even if you bang it with a hammer.

Earth gravity is the answer you are searching for, I don't know about Jupiter but on earth the energy in a falling mass will reach for the sky even when only falling a few meters.

[blite13]

@fakeyf9 Grillo, the guy with the blood. He went on Larry King the next day and said on TV that he was in Tower 2 when it collapsed. He was coached out of this testimony and said something different in JAN. 2002. You take the original testimony as the real story. 9/11 commission completely ignored all testimony of explosions on that day. There is plenty of testimony and evidence of secondary explosions, the media and government ignores it. josarhus is a shill.

[goateedswinger]

@blite13 To be fair, EVERYONE who disagrees with you is a shill ; )

I think your a TWAT, but unfortunately I have no proof of this beyond the paranoid bullshit that you hose down youtube with every ding dang day ; )

[blite13]

@goateedswinger When a building collapses into itself, there should be resistance. Those 3 buildings collapsed into themselves with no resistance, is that possible without some sort of help? All contents turned to dust, all that was left was steel beams and a pristine passport, figure it out, shillboy.

[goateedswinger]

@blite13 Can't be bothered to reason with you, so I'll quote from "youstupidmoron", who is pwning you on another of these vids:

The buildings did NOT fall with "no resistance" , you fell for a myth that was dismissed as myth a long time ago, it simply isn't possible because there absolutely were floors below that were intact until they were crushed by the above floors.

[blite13]

@goateedswinger If there was resistance, then it wouldn't come down at 10 floors per second. All the contents wouldn't have turned to dust, the buildings would have collapsed in a different manner, they would have found a different way to least resistance. Your buddy tries to tie this in with "freefall speed" and your lame attempt at it is just using his pathetic answer. And you think that passes off as truth? You can't reason with me cause you are WRONG, sit down.

[Bobbo63]

@goateedswinger then why didnt it colapse from the bottom where most of the force would have been.

[Dulcimerea]

@Bobbo63 Partly, it did. Some indicators:

Sudden fall of WTC1 antenna. Many one-floor-height pieces of columns blown out sideways. "Pancaking" didn't happen, but if it had it wouldn't have taken down the core, but would be like rings on a ring toss.

Core columns went through floors rather than floors going through columns. Demo sequence was complex but must have had charges throughout, from basement to top.

- opinion based on 30 yrs construction experience (not high rise)

[josarhus]

@Dulcimerea The antenna fell with the rest of the top. And the fall was not sudden, there were many indicators leading up to the collapse.

Did you know that sevarl pepole survived inside the core of WTC 1, several floors up?

[goateedswinger]

@blite13 Damn that spam filter! 2nd attempt:

"Josarhus" - Grillo was in the lobby of the Marriott and on the Larry King show he got the building numbers mixed up.

If you use any little bit of common sense, you would know that no one survived with just a bloody nose after being in the WTC 2 lobby during the collapse.

...I'm inclined to agree.

[goateedswinger]

@blite13 You just don't know when to stop digging : )

[chegstick]

@goateedswinger

Aw, don't take the mickey out of him! it's hard work, all this copying and pasting, particularly when he can't use his fingers 'cos they're stuck in his ears.

[blite13]

@egderegor The plan has been going on for at least decades, way before GWB and Cheney. Cheney and Rumsfeld were around Fed Govern. when Nixon was Prez. Prescott Bush helped finance Hitler. it goes back a ways. The plan is coming to a head now, we get to witness it, Oh the joy, lol.

[Dulcimerea]

@blite13

Exactly. Thank you for the common sense.

[Dulcimerea]

@josarhus "not only would feel like an explosion, the aftermath would also look like it."

Only superficially. An explosion is very different from a gravity impact. I agree they could be confused. But anyone who has been to a fireworks show knows the sound of a detonation.

Aftermath: Also very different, tho it would look the same to an untrained eye. Blast damage is different than impact damage. Blast waves travel miles per second. Note hundreds of windows blown out with no debris impact.

[josarhus]

@Dulcimerea Why don't you ask the firefighters in question, if they used the word explosion as a simile or if they actually think that something exploded?

Secondly I don’t agree that you can compare fireworks to explosives exploding; there is a difference since fireworks are quite slow burning while demolition or military charges are high explosives. Have you heard both, even a layman can tell the difference.

[josarhus]

@Dulcimerea I agree on the aftermath, all the windows would have been blown out in surrounding buildings, but they didn’t. It is very clear from video taken after both collapses that the windows in surrounding buildings survived. Even when WTC 7 fell, only very few windows broke in WTC 7 itself.

[greatgatsb90210]

THE DEBATE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[wejewsdid911HAHAHA89]

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[ezeeskank]

911 kicked off the war against the people.All the anti terror laws that came into effect after 911 are designed to be used against the western populations not terrorists per se.These draconian laws have done more to destroy our way of life in the US and Europe than any terrorist could hope to achieve in a thousand years.This was planned along time before Sep 11 2001 which is why all the terrorist legislation was ready to be implemented one month after the false flag attack.Get it?

[fakeyf9]

The explosions these guys are talking about happened BEFORE the towers collapsed. There is no dust everywhere! Folks are milling about like its any other fire! This is not a smoking gun but a smoking nuclear weapon!

[josarhus]

@fakeyf9 What lobby were they in?

[fakeyf9]

@josarhus They were in the the lobby of the North Tower. They were in there staging to go up to fight the fire. The third firefighter says that as the lobby was exploding he saw "a black plane" hit the South Tower. That means they timed the lobby explosion to coincide with the second plane impact. The crashing planes acted as diversion to the controlled demolitions. 911 is a staged magic trick but on many, many levels and with deadly consequences.

[josarhus]

@fakeyf9 The plane he is talking about, the second plane, hit the building before they responded to the WTC, so they were not in any lobby, but in Brooklyn at the time of the attack.

When they went to the WTC, they did NOT go into the lobby of any of the towers, but into the Lobby of the Marriott hotel, were they waited.

I can document what I have just written, can you document that they were in the North Tower or that they were there when the plane hit?

[rustycage0108]

@josarhus yes-i can document that they were in the north tower-i have a book wriiten less then 6 months ago-where these men are interviewed-and they explain step by step where they were-unless you think they are liars-the man on the right has been talking about this for years-the only reason we are just hearing about it is because the video was tied up in a court battle-i wonder why someone did'ny want anyone to see this-what do they have to hide

[josarhus]

@rustycage0108 Then you know their names?! Who are they?

[Ahlywog]

@josarhus "GRILLO: I was -- my assignment with Ladder 24, the company I'm assigned to, we were supposed to go into building No. 2, the south tower and make our way into tower No. 1, the north tower. And we were caught in the collapse in the lobby of tower No. 2, the south tower."

CNN Larry King transcripts: premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/01­10/28/lklw.00.html

So, according to him, not when the plane hit but when the building collapsed...

[josarhus]

@Ahlywog Yes Grillo is the one in the middle, according to testimonies and Ladder 24 operation report, they waited in the Marriott lobby, when the South Tower collapsed. And it is the collapse of the south tower unto the much lower Marriott that they are describing as explosions.

The one on the right is Tyrone Johnson:

graphics8 .nytimes .com/packages/pdf/nyregion/200­50812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110443 .PDF

[Ahlywog]

@josarhus I agree. There are a lot of contradictory reports about their location. As I quoted, Jimmy Grillo told Larry King he was in the lobby of tower 2 and caught in its collapse. So my question is this: I can understand the staging area in the lobby of the Marriott, but why are they waiting to go upstairs into that building?  Why is there a staging area to go up into the Marriott?

[josarhus]

@Ahlywog There really isn't that much contradictory reports on their location. You have come up with the only thing I have seen so far (did see it when the video came out last year, but it also at that time were clear that Grillo were confused about building numbers). Everything else, testimonies from other Ladder 24 fire fighters (and other companies at the same location) and the Ladder 24 operation report is quite clear.

[Ahlywog]

@josarhus Confusing WTC 1 and 2 I can see. Confusing being in the lobby of one of the towers with the lobby of the Marriott is quite another.

[josarhus]

@Ahlywog Well, you could ask him ;) Think for a moment, do you really think that a person would survive the collapse of the south tower and escape with just a bloody nose?! No one who were inside the lobby of the south tower survived, not one and Grillo was not in the Lobby of the south tower but in the Marriott Lobby, with the rest of his compagny.

[josarhus]

@Ahlywog Like the two towers, all other buildings were evacuated and that is the job of the fire fighters. They searched every single room in all the buildings, while others were up in the two towers trying to reach the impact points to combat the fires.

[May29thOrg]

wow.. what a BOMBshell! the 10 year anniversary is less than a year away and we still don't know what happened. WTC 7? may29th dot Org!

[TrutherD1]

@babyjustwin1 He assumed it was a plane - more like a missile IMO at that speed etc