Fall of the Berlin Wall: The moment the barriers came down

[simbono92]

every german are nazi

[evaliaro]

and you're stupid. :)

[nielai]

what is the title of the song?!!

plss...

[pajo500]

österreich wahr super lol ihr in berlin macht ne wand kaputt was soll das ? zu wenig erfahrung wie hitler aufgewachsen ist usw kommt schon leute aber 5/5

[gangstapostei]

THE SONG ?

[Lisbon1906]

The fall of the wall meant also a lot of bad things.

according to UNICEF between 1989/90 the mortality rate in east europe 12,8%, Russia saw the average life expectancy rate decreased by 5%, according to a UN study in 1999 during the system change 10 MILLION people became missing, also UNICEF talks about 3 million victims.

not to mention the increase of prostitution, illeteracy and unemployment.

PS

55% of eastern Germans think they where better of before the fall.

[Lisbon1906]

# according to UNICEF between 1989/90 the mortality rate INCREASED in east europe 12,8%

[evaliaro]

that's because people tend to forget. they forgot all about the pain of being separated from their families. they forgot all about the victims of the wall. it's a SHAME. but i guess that's the human nature. as soon as you don't live under communism anymore, you start to remember only the good parts. tell me, does it worth to sacrifice your freedom?!

[Lisbon1906]

or maybe they now have something to compare with, a "now and a back then".

no one says it was perfect but the entire eastern Europe had a much hight quality of living back then. just look at Russia, its all corruption, criminality, illiteracy and poverty now.

we on the Portuguese Communist Party as Marxist-Leninists stand for Socialism and Freedom, for which we actually fought during the 50 years of US financed fascist regime in Portugal.

[Lisbon1906]

its Germans who make that distinction. the fact that they saw their entire economic structure destroyed, entire national factories and companies privatized at the cost of peanuts and then closed taking every1 to unemployment without the social protection they had kinda makes those 55% i told u feel like 2nd class citizens

[evaliaro]

i live in a country which was under the communist regime until twenty years ago. my parents would have to stay for hours in queues to manage to buy some food. so don't come and tell me it was better back then, because this is not true. maybe everyone had a job, but having money is useless if you have nothing to buy. just be grateful that you were not forced to live under communism.

[evaliaro]

oh, and please don't put socialism and freedom in the same sentence - that's a total contradiction. and marxism is nothing but an utopia. a nice one, but that doesn't make it more real than it is.

[Lisbon1906]

ah i have just noticed you are from Romania. The Portuguese Communist Party always had TERRIBLE relations with Ceausescu.

sadly in most of eastern Europe we saw a deterioration of the life expectancy rate and child death and other indicators from the Human development index.

in Portugal it was the communist party the only to resist to fascism. it was socialist parties who brought us unemployment protection, universal health care and education

[cheekkiller]

FREEDOM 4 EVER

[babybluevolvo]

Great movie! I got happy!

[yarizxsun]

aw, this made me smile. im so happy for Germany. The wall is broken down! woot

[betens85]

It was a unique moment, I have no memories of their own. Thanks for sharing the video!

[gangstapostei]

song ? what is it called?

[ChicReal]

I will never forget this momentous day! Very emotional moment indeed. I just moved to Deutschland a couple of months before this took place. I eve n have a piece of the Berlin wall as a souvenir to remind me of this special event in history. Vielen Dank for sharing and posting this special video. =)

[gangstapostei]

Nice song! What is the name of it ? PLEASE ANSWER

[Revolution21Century]

And before you slander off anymore, "Socialism" never murdered anyone, but rather people that call themselves socialists. Its like blaming Jesus for the Crusades or blaming Marx for Stalin. It just doesn't make sense.

[Revolution21Century]

@altfratuben: No, as I said the DDR was not a democratic socialism, but a repressive totalitarian regime. "a third choice"? Can you define that for me? Many fake leftists have used that term to introduce free market policies, "Neo-liberalism with a social touch". Mussolini, the fascist dictator who ruined Italy also used the term "Third Way". What exactly do you mean by that?

[peiyee1104]

it really shows that the people are the voice of the government. They should do what we want..... and that is the voice and the power of one nation.......

[Revolution21Century]

Never would I advocate a turn back to totalitarian repression, but more and more people in the East are more welcoming to socialist ideas, which tells me that people are wanting a democratic form of socialism and not this capitalist brutality of the free market of factory closures, poverty and unemployment.

[altfratuben]

Democratic Socialism, like DDR? socialism is a big lie, as well as capitalism. There is a third road to chose! Only trash people still believe in socialism after 60 millions murders in sovjet union and eastern europe and china and cuba and .....

[Revolution21Century]

@redwingzuni (4 days ago)-You are right, the GDR was NEVER ready for capitalism. In fact, a recent article I saw, because of the financial crisis in Germany and the fact that in the East, it is racked by poverty and unemployment, there was a surge in the selling of Marx's treatise Das Kapital. I believe 52% of people in a recent survey concluded that the free market was "unsuitable" and that 43% said they wanted socialism rather than capitalism.

[jursamaj]

I was on the Wall at Brandenburg Gate the 2nd night. It was pretty amazing.

[PerlitaHabanera]

I can relate with what these people were going through.

[morpheous7]

Yeah it would have been great if Obama was there with ronald Mcdonald, mickey mouse and donald duck. wow that would have been great.

[MrKrystian20091]

LECH WALESA!!!!!  DANKE

[MoonAharshMistress]

Are they doing Blacklaces Agadoo at 1:20?

[Sismiques]

☭★LIEBE DER DDR!☭★

[Joe402]

I LOVE DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION!

[Sismiques]

German Democratic Reublic,idot,not "Dance Dance Revolution".

[Joe402]

I know what I said.

[workingclasssociety]

People of the world, we must unite. Very rich control everyone and everything. Love and peace is our only way to fight against them.

[ryanshaunkelly]

Homeland Gestapo Police State

Likud Joe Lieberman and Bibi

Backlash Neocon AIPAC

Projection much?

[Zile77]

Oblama didn't show up 'cuz he didn't want to be upstaged by Reagan. If it's not about Oblama, he wants nothing to do with it.

[illhavemine]

How right you are!

[FLwrestlingfreak]

Im only 16. I wish I was around to see the fall of the berlin wall. Its a day that will live on 4 ever

[TheNomadicMonad]

The fall of the Berlin Wall was a great day for capitalism and imperialism. DDR was corrupt and undemocratic, but at least it could afford their population a good standard of living. Look at eastern Germany now: Rampant unemployment (20%), prostitution, crime, far right extremism, lack of funding for social policies, increased suicide rates. The problems of the DDR could have been solved without becoming a modern-day colony for western Germany.

[Molo9000]

"but at least it could afford their population a good standard of living"

Are u joking?

There was more employment in the east but that wasn't real employment.

What good is employment if you can't buy shit with the money u earn?

Every poor bugger today who lives on 700euro a month (Arbeitslosengeld 2 - social welfare in germany) has a higher standard of living!

[TheNomadicMonad]

Hartz 4 is 350 euros a month + rent. The average wage in East Germany in 1984 was $21K a year (2008 dollars), that's around 3-4 times more than what the 20% unemployed earn now, and as much or more than what the majority of the workers earn. Additionally, the average GDP growth was around 6% (compared to 3% in West Germany), so they would be earning a lot more right now.

[Molo9000]

@TheNomadicMonad Hartz 4 is 700 Euros if you factor in the rent.

And where did u get the $21k from? Please state your source! (I want know how it was calculated)

$21k would only be about 75% more than what an unemployed person gets now (for doing nothing at all) and less than half of the average pay here in the evil capitalist system.

[TheNomadicMonad]

That's from wikipedia, the source being:

findarticles[dot]com/p/article­s/mi_m1052/is_n4_v110/ai_73738­09/

And the average pay for east Germans is around 70% of west Germans, so the salary of working people would be around 28k per year. But that's not counting income inequality, so the mean salary is probably around 20-25k. Nominal growth having been 3-4% in the east during the DDR, they would currently have an average wage of $38K dollars per year ((1.03^20)*21000)) with full employment.

[RedwingZuni]

That's complete and utter nonsense. I grew up there and the average pay in the East was nowhere near $21k. This is complete BS! The average wage in the 80iges for workers was 9k to 12k but in _East_ Mark. And you couldn't buy anything for it. Only basic foods. For a crappy car you had to wait 15 years except for party members. Nowadays most east germans have cars, Internet, color TVs, mobile phones, go to vacation in Spain and have the normal western standard of living.

[TheNomadicMonad]

You have to remember that 21k includes price inflation and purchasing power.

[evaliaro]

if everything was so wonderful in the DDR, then what was with all those people who were trying to escape? they were all crazy, or what?

the division of germany was one of the most awful things in history, and it's very sad that you still make a distinction between east and west germany. communism is a fuckin' utopia, live with that.

[morpheous7]

Watching various politicians patting themselves on the back for removing the Berlin wall after allowing it to stand for so many years was pathetic. Even more pathetic is that they all know Israel has put up a larger wall of aparthied on even more stolen land and none of them have the backbone to even complain.

[altfratuben]

What a brilliant comment....you are so right. Respect.

[shawakwak]

Not really the same thing, but your point is made.

[P4NCAK3S]

And what were those politicians supposed to do? Invade the Soviet Union and bring down the wall?

[sunshinyday11]

Too bad Obama couldn't make this event .

[philipman2000]

HHOORRAAYY for collapse of communism Europe now all countries and democracy kinda well russia are still communist

[sensou2003]

ja kinda communist? please define communism because your concept  seem far from economic theory

[warana2]

FREEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!

[1inkdaddy]

He was the best pres we ever hade! FUCK YOU

[flenbo]

what a crazy moment in history

[pallett316]

Quick, put it back and stop the fuckers coming over her to get what they can.

[mcredsox16]

FUCK THE NAZIS

[EmeterioBetances]

Twenty years ago as the Berlin Wall came tumbling down the bourgeoisie in the west was euphoric, rejoicing at the fall of communism. Twenty years later things look very different as capitalism has entered its most severe crisis since 1929. Now a majority in former East Germany votes for the left and harks back to what was positive about the planned economy. After rejecting Stalinism, they have now had a taste of capitalism, and the conclusion drawn is that socialism is better than capitalism.

[rbresca]

You are right . I miss hearing about all the purges, the concentration camps, the secret police, the endless queues for everything from toilet paper to food. Bring back socialism!

[supermanadamio]

If there was ever a moment I wish I could have been alive to see, it would be at Berlin, right at this moment. Both my parents left communist Poland to come to Australia.

Happy Birthday Eastern Europe!!!

[iamther]

the liberals laughed at regan but one of his greatest accomplishments. by the way liberals it wasnt trumans greatest accomplishments he was dead

[chunkybutt420]

I was living in west germany on an army base. watched it on TV. I love Germany :)

[dalfin222]

fucking nazis we should have nuked berlin

[mcredsox16]

FUCK YA FUCK THE NAZZI NIGGAS

[172677]

Profanity is the weapon of the witless and the common crutch of the conversational cripple......

[mcredsox16]

couldnt be any gayer. gj

[americadashi]

Ich bin ein Berliner

[ejeepin]

In the 70's, we visited Germany from the US. I remember vividly the iron curtain near Coberg. In 1992 I returned to Germany and made it a point to loop through the former East to see what was over there. It was very sad to see the run down towns and villages those people had to live in. Employed and fed by the war machine but prisoners. What is really sad is the dopey movement who want Communism back so they can be provided for by the govt. (sounds like the US movement)

[canamwing]

Why was this wall so bad? But the wall in Palestian isn't even questioned? Good old zionist controlled world. We are really in big trouble!

[Ghostx99]

because the western world is retarded

[alymc69]

good point,and also if one questions what the Israeli s are doing your called a bigot and a terrorist sympathizer..

[varchasvar18]

congrats 2 d beautiful ppl of germany this event can be said to be the best moment of humanity age....too bad the fuckheads of koreas and indo pak cnt understand the meaning of being united....seems like only the gr8 arayn race knws that united we stand and divided we fall!!

[at72bd]

Congratulations Berlin ; Congratulations East Europe . FREEDOM is not free.

freedom is wonderfull

[CarlyBlunt]

Such a wonderful moment, wish I was born to see it.

Can't even imagine what it felt like to be in a situation like that. Happy Birthday Berlin!

[rock1acid]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BERLIN!!!

I saw the show in the TV and it was beautiful, I hope Germany watch the tv news next year about the next Mexican Revolution! Congratulations Berlin!

greetings from MEXICO.

PEACE AND LIBERTY

[strangeloveify]

i was only 6 when the wall came down but i remember it like it was yesterday. the first things i ever bought with west german money were a milky way bar and a kiwi.

[andrewsurtees]

So happy for the German part of my family to have experienced this. I wish I'd been a little older, and more able to understand.

Die schönsten Tage der Freiheit. Gut, prima Tag. Für uns alle. Die besten aus ganz Deutschland, um alle im Westen. Und auch unsere Brüder im Osten. Das war der beste Tag von uns allen.

I'll be over there in 2010, I'll visit all the places we've talked about, I'll see it for myself. Sorry my German language has got so bad.

Dank Bärbel, Walter danke, danke allen.

[andrewsurtees]

Und auch, ich danke Ihnen Großmutter und Großvater. Die Welt feiert, aber die Welt nicht wissen, wie Sie gelitten.

The world now knows, but it will never really know. Thanks for doing everything you did.

[MrBullfrog9876]

Isn't freedom wonderfull!!! To all the German people congratulations! Sorry our president in America doesn't seem to care but don't worry we will vote him out of office as soon as possible :)

[MrCgwartney]

seriously!! Let's get him out soon!!!!! HE IS A CRAZY LIAR!!

[KhmerD0g]

tell that to the palestinians who are separated by the wall built by israel in west bank.

[sunshinyday11]

The U.N. gave Israel to the jews and jordan to the palestinians. YOu have to look at a map to see this is not about land , but about Islams mission statement- to rid the world of infidels and jews and make us all submit to sharia law .

[KhmerD0g]

wrong. it was the U.S. not the U.N.

as for sharia law, u are wrong again. within muslim there are so many nationalities, ethnicity, languages and cultures to make all those muslims to conform to sharia law, let alone non-Muslims. u are using fear to justify your zionism action just like Bush used fear to invade Iraq.

[172677]

Or the nitwits in our own country who want to build walls on our own borders...Almost 3000 miles on the southern border and 5000 miles on the north.

Walls never work.....

[Revolution21Century]

Its a supreme irony that 20 years after re-unification, people are leaving East Germany, not to escape from totalitarian repression, but to escape unemployment. Its also strange how the main Left party registered a significant advance, gaining 30% of the vote in the East. In the East, there is now no majority for the mainstream parties. The facts speak for themselves I believe.

[RedwingZuni]

This fall the CDU (Christian Democratic Union) got about 30% in the East. So they still have a relative majority there. The Left got about 26%. That's a lot but still about the same result they already got in 2005. Actually there hasn't changed much. The most relative gains the Left got in the West.

[Micheleeroo]

This is beautiful. Thank you, Ronald Reagan.

[KhmerD0g]

fuck reagan. he spent so much money and now we are bankrupt. we are paying the price for his stupid ideological war. fuck reagan to hell he will rot. glad to see he had alzhemer. hahahaa. he didn't remember his own failure. berlin wall would have fell on itself. great wall of china fell too, fell to tourist attraction. all political walls will come down.

bush built walls in bagdad and israel built a wall in west bank to separate the palestinians. nobody is talking about that.

[sunshinyday11]

This is a typical left liberal " progressive" post.

They hate America and freedom .  They truly are evil .

[morpheous7]

America has no freedom, only people who think they are free because they are told they are free.

[Revolution21Century]

I definetly believe that the Berlin Wall was a focal point for all that was hated about the regime in the East. But I also believe that the people of East Germany did not want totalitarianism, but they never actually wanted capitalism either. These people that thought they were being liberated were not told that the capitalist system would bring mass unemployment, factory closures and destruction of large parts of the industrial base in the GDR.

[RedwingZuni]

I was born in the east and I don't know a single person who was fantasizing about a "better socialism". People wanted the market economy. The problem is that many still believed in 1989 the fairy tales about the GDR economy. But it was rotten and not fit for open markets. Nevertheless a lot has been accomplished in the East.

[Polythinker]

Ich bin nicht ein berliner oder deutsche.Respect for Germany the strongest economy of Europe.After spending couple of years in this country i dont believe in that what communist propaganda teached me abut what happened in WW2.

[fairhillnorrie]

i remember it well. Great day for Germany East and West.. must have been a fantastic time just to be there.. wouldn't it be great if same happened between North and South Korea..

[lukapentsi]

Oh how I remember these days when we could not cry enough while dancing, and laughing and smiling dried our tears. It was like a curse being taken from us. A heavy burden that disappeared. And we felt close, and still today those who witnessed it have a knowing smile on their face whenever they remember ...

[Karletto555]

ich bin ein Berliner!

[fremontdad]

lol. Hi there 'Jelly Doughnut!! J.F.K. should have said this: Ich Bin Berliner! ( I am a Berliner! )

[Dwyerben19]

Dont forget why that wall went up in the first place...

Dont forget the horrors the Nazis commited..and how the german people allowed themselves to be led like blind sheep...worshiping "Der Fuhrer"

[dsjj251]

the wall went up because Russia wanted to control East Germany and wanted there Berlin to be the capital

not because of the Nazis

[peregilw]

This really moved me. I got tears in my eyes while smiling :-)

[TheWesternCOWBOY]

im going to berlin, and im going to build my own wall. SPREADING COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY ALL OVER THE WORLD.

[Mizzuru]

@TheWesternCOWBOY then you sir need to read up on your Marxist books, because Karl marx would be spinnign in his grave.

[Rioonbicycle]

I would personally perfer to thank THE GERMANS! for having the courage to stand up to the authoritarian governments in East Germany. This is true courage, this is true freedom, this is the people's voice. Thank you Germany, for your courage.

[bruceisthebestever]

alymc69

i have a song for you.

Rule Britania!

Britannia rule the waves.

Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

Rule Britannia!

Britannia rule the waves.

Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

shame the same is not for you aswell.

[alymc69]

a typical silly brit!! still on your knees for a bitch in crown!! you really are a silly bunch..it makes me smile when i read your boys are being shot and blown up in Iraq and afghanistan,you deserve it

[Mizzuru]

@alymc69 okay lets just go back to gibraltar, we cant leave, we're not allowed, the people of gibraltar held a referendum and the majority of the population voted to stay British, which they can do, the same for the falkland islands, they becmae a self governing island. Northern Ireland held a referendum with the majority of the vote wishing to stay part of britian. Hell Gibraltar is older than the republic of France by almost 200 years. If these countries want to stay part of Britain, so be it.

[alymc69]

@Mizzuru  fair point.. but most of the inhabitants of these places are ex pats!! apart from N. Ireland( majority unionist pop. in North ),so i guess they ll vote to stay with their own..

[gazzer97]

i remember this like yesterday, just shows that anything is possible, if people have a mind anything can be done

[alymc69]

FUNNY HOW THE BRITS ARE SO HAPPY ABOUT THE BERLIN COMING DOWN!! FUCKING HYPOCRITES,WHY DONT THEY SHOW SOME RESPECT AND GET OUT OF IRELAND,SPAIN,ARGENTINA,THE LIST GOES ON..fucking americans aint no better,it makes me mad when i see all these countries saying how good it is when communism falls,and they themselves are currently occupying soveirgn states

fucking brits

[Mizzuru]

@alymc69 We're not in argentia, we're in a small island where 3/4 of the population are sheep, we're not in spain at all, never have been, and well whilst we are technically in ireland we have barely any troops there.

[alymc69]

you just dont realise do you?? would you like if a spanish base was sitting on your doorstep?? argie s on an island fishing in your waters?? the Irish controlling north of England? you brits dont realise so it annoys me when i see countries like yourselves commenting on the fall of oppressive regimes!! thats all im trying to say

[CosmoKing09]

I tried really hard to hear what you were saying but all i got was "taters"

[fremontdad]

And what have you done to better our 'Peaceful' Nations? Well, I mean besides sit on your @ss and bitch and complain? As an American myself, I find it ridiculous the spew you let fly out of your mouth when you say the British & America are 'Occupying' so called "Sovereign" states? Where? Iraq? PLEASE!! Afghanistan? PLEASE, again!! Just where is Britain & America occupying??

[alymc69]

educate yourself and come back to me..This is the problem ,because we live in the west we have this ideology that its us against them and hence we re the good guys they the bad,we are hypocrites in the west,we back Israel(murderers) we back the saudi s(murderers) so many despots around the world and say NOTHING because they are "allies" IT MAKES ME SICK..

[teton99]

Obama's Politics of Collective Redemption

By Kyle-Anne Shiver

And in this seemingly redemptive offering, Obama may be promising what only God can actually deliver, in the form of yet another, more eloquent, version of the same old utopian dream that started with Rousseau and Marx. . Substituting the state for God as provider has been the inherent common thread in all Marxist regimes.

[antimarxism]

Fortunately for real Americans, Obama is too stupid to carry out all of his destructive policies. But he is doing a decent job with the help of his statist majority to destroy as much of America as possible before he (and them) are voted out.

[shawakwak]

LOL funny you would come on this forum to blab your nonsense. Sorry for feeding the trolls everyone.

[jrstark314]

Freedom!

[caninepundit]

Die Mauer ist gefallen!

[fremontdad]

This is what FREEDOM represents!! I am sooo thankful I was alive to see this happen! Thank you so much 'Great One' Mr. President Ronald Reagan!! You are so very missed!! :-( Just as I am so happy that this happened, I am just as fearful of our current 'Dictator in Chief' and his taking over our Government and the Institutions that WE rely on the most, & up next is the Press. Be fearful. BE VERY FEARFUL!!

[1inkdaddy]

Thanks to the GOP

Where the great Obama on this one

[quizerry]

You've come a long way. Yeah

[AllyH0152009]

This just shows what a big deal it was!! xoxo

[furiasha]

Weird indeed. Not just for the Germans, but for all of us east europeans. At the time I was a student in Moscow and along with the others was doing my bit to shake the communist system. There was no Reagan around in any form. May be he ment that he was friendly to Gorbachev?

[CitizenViews]

it was weird when Reagan tried to take credit for those german hammers..

[antimarxism]

It really bothers CitizenViews that Reagan actually took a stand and stood for something. Obama would have been giving "shoutouts" to medal of "honor" "winners".

[PrZemek44]

Obama would say "Mr Gorbachov, uh, would you be nice enough , uh, to consieder, uh..."

This guy has not only no balls but brains, too Those morons who say how 'brilliant' he is, must be at least mildly retarded.

[uthoria]

1) Reagan wasnt even Pres. when the wall fell

2) JFK also took a stand ;)

[antimarxism]

uthoria, you are a genius. Have you ever thought about applying to Mensa?

I was referring to CitizenViews douchebag comment.. Reagan was given his credit due, didn't ask for it.

1) No one stated that Reagan was Pres the day it technically fell, moron.

2) JFK? Are you hallucinating and substituting JFK for Obama? Obama didn't have an ounce of motivation to visit Germany and celebrate this anniversary. He was too busy bringing communisim to the U.S. He despises the wall coming down.

[uthoria]

Kid, do you even know what communism is? Because if you did you would know that Obama is as much of a communist as James Madison was. Let me guess, you haven't even read the US Constitution nor do you even know the difference between classical liberalism (Americas ideology), socialism, communism, or fascism yet you somehow believe you know whats wrong with America and why (rolls eyes). I suggest you read a book, preferably one without pictures.

[antimarxism]

Wow! uthoria! I've never heard of those things? What do you call them? political ideologies? Hmmmmm........I'm going to look them up on Wiki to find out what they are. I really appreciate the insight. You are the god of all gods uthoria. Please teach me about classical liberalism. I've never heard of such a thing. I thought anything other than conservatism is communist. I've been such a fool! Thank you god of politics......Thank you!