@JasonRJones1986 The US Army has now allowed new pilots to have Lasik Surgery as their eye correction operations. There are also talks from the Navy to do the same with some of their new potential Aviators. I have the same exact problem you have, and currently a Commercial Rated Pilot. I could be wrong, but more than likely, this strict rule may change. As technology and medical innovations expands and change, it might be a matter of time
@man11withaplan I am thinking of joining, the Officer I talked to today told me that they would pay for PRK but I would rather pay for LASIK myself because I hear a lot of negative about PRK. Am I able to pay for the LASIK myself and the join?
@peterjah100 Lasik believe it or not is not expensive at all. The average pricing is about 500 dollars per eye, so it would be about around 1000 dollars on average, you might find a place that does it for a lower price, trusted that optomologist is certified and experienced.
@man11withaplan Yeah, I was looking into it today and was surprised at the price. Is LASIK or PRK more invasive? My father had LASIK done 5 years ago and was very pleased with the results, I'm just nervous of anything going near my eye.
@peterjah100Consult with a LASIK center with experienced Optomologists, and see what are your options and they will walk you through the process, if your going to the Aviation sector of the Marine Officership, try having a Aviation back round such as I have. But more than likely, just like the Army and the other services, as LASIK becomes more advanced and improved in time, they will lift these restrictions. Just see what your options are right now. Good luck
What if I already have more than a 100 hours of flight and a certified Private Pilot and commercial rated but having Lasik? PRK is the painful eye surgery to get and more expensive and complex, yet Lasik now a very simple procedure with less than $500 per eye is prohibited? That does not seem fair. Eh, well, let us see what happens? If anybody can elaborate on the eye surgery restrictions, I would appreciate it
@MrReeg16 He would be exempt from IFS (Introductory Flight Screening) a 13 flight hour program that weeds out those who are unable or are unwilling to solo a civilian aircraft.
@man11withaplan After Lasik, the only thing holding your corneas together is scar tissue. If you were to go inside anything with high g-forces(fighter cockpit or centrifuge training) there is a good possibility that your eyes could break open. The Navy is not going to risk $600 million dollars on fairness. Believe me, I need eye surgery as well, and I had the opportunity to ask a pilot this question. The good news is that the Navy provides PRK for free.
@bulletarmory From what I understand, PRK is the most painful, but even if it is, I may do it, this is something I really want to do with my Service when I get in. Luckily, my eyes also qualify for PRK, just got to save some money.
@SoundwaveX7 a four year college degree in anything although they prefer aerodynamic engineering and stuff like that and are usually not picky about what school you go to as long as its nationally credited
just know, this video is very misleading. you can guarantee flight slots in the Army as a warrant officer, not an officer. and in the Marines, its never guaranteed, its only guaranteed if you fully qualify for it, n can change at any time. Usually if you pass a medical as a marine, the only things left are the Visual and Hearing portions which weed people out. more often vision.
LASIK IS WAIVERABLE, i know several who had it done by the Marines. PRK is also waiverable. LASEK is DISQUALIFYING.
@Sharod101 Umm i had 3 friends who went to WOC (warrent officer Canidate school) from the infantry to be Kiowa pillots...only 1 actualy made it the other 2 didnt...so i dont know were your geting your information from....like ive always been told..."the loudest highest vessel is normaly the empty one"
@Texashog74 Kiowa? sounds more like Army, not Marines. Marines have Cayuse in their lineup, Kiowa's are only found in the Army.
Marine pilots can only be officers, not Warrant Officers. the only branch that allows for a warrant officer to fly is the Army. and they're the only ones that don't have to be enlisted for 7-12 years before becoming a warrant officer (thats how long it takes in the Navy and Marine Corp). you can even become a WO out of high school.
@Sharod101 LMAO can you show me how you can become a WO right out of HS in the Army??? I will wait...LMAO...you dont know what the fuck your talking about...again your pride and ignorance is blocking logic
@Texashog74 MY COWORKER JUST DID. 18 YEARS OLD AND HAD HIS PROFESSIONAL PILOT RATINGS FOR F/W, AND 8 MONTHS OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL GOT INTO WOCS TO FLY FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD.
walk into any recruiter and thats the first option they give you out of high school and wanting to fly.
@Sharod101 The most specialized unit in the Marine Corps would be Force Recon/Recon and FAST Company. Its possible they insert into a combat zone using the helos you named, but I'm 100% sure they are just getting a ride and the pilots of those helos are not Marines.
Marines are the best. First to fight. We handle land, sea, and air, Etc. When you EARN the title of United States Marine, there is no better feeling.
@LastXdeth The Corps is smaller, therefore MOST things you'll go for will be competative. They only want the best. I wanted infantry contract when I enlisted. Now I'm a combat engineer contract and I'm still trying to get infantry or artillery. So it IS very selective. Maybe not more so, however. Keep in mind you'll also be training more, so more will drop out. All Marine officers are platoon leaders as well as their MOS or job (don't know what officers call their MOS)
@Squadomatick Well, I originally planned to fly for the Air Force for the obvious reason that it has more aircrafts (not helicopters) than all the other branches. But I'm hearing that it's increasingly difficult to be a pilot in the Air Force because they see their future as one being filled with unmanned UAVs. Also, The Marines are the only one to guarantee a pilot slot as early as your freshmen year if your in the NROTC college program.
@dex9k In order to become a Marine Corps pilot, you need to be a Marine Corps officer. In order to become a Marine officer, you need to be an American citizen.
@dex9k Yes, you can become an American ciitzen through enlisting in the Marines. After your 4 year enlistment is up, apply for an air contract at OCS. After OCS you're designation will be 7599 (Student Naval Aviator). After your 6 months of TBS which every Marine officer must do, you proceed to Pensacola for flight training.
@ArcAngelLMIA Yeah, but you would have to take the AFA's full curricula which I have heard was a big pain! But being able to have a choice in the matter, such as choosing the school you want to go to, sounds better.
Such is the path my great uncle took. He went to U of Texas(I believe) and majored in Aeronautical Engineering and was well on his way to becoming a test pilot in the Navy. Indeed, he loved to fly. That was his passion.
@PS3MASTERMIND ; If you can get PRK surgery to correct your vision, you can have the surgery waived and you can become a pilot. Although you will have a tough time
the marines dont need the F-22 its not even gonna be in service for much longer...it is a good plane but comes at to much of a cost and all its capabilities and technology is not needed...why would u spend unnecesary money on a plane when there are cheaper ones that are more than capable of getting the job done....and for as much as the F-22 cost it should do way more
@LastXdeth The reason they guarantee the pilot slot in the Marine Corps, is because Marine officers have close to 1 years worth of training before flight school kicks off. That 1 year consists of OCS (screening process, basically weeding out those who are not Marine officer material) followed by TBS, where all Marine officers are trained to be rifle platoon commanders (basic infantry officers). OCS is either 10 weeks, or 12 weeks depending on the program and TBS is 6 months.
@LastXdeth So, assuming you are basically qualified with the initial testing and flight physical, and make it through OCS and TBS, you are guaranteed a spot in flight school. Whether you wash out or not anywhere between OCS and flight school, is entirely up to you and the effort you put in.
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When the USMC needs to learn how to Jump from a aircraft they go to Ft Benning. That is a Army school. Force Recon is a joke in fact most USMC Recon members that go to Ranger school wash out. Last but not least look at the marine seal and tell me what it says. DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY. LMAO
You weren't a Marine I bet, and you weren't a ranger. I bet you were some army communications girl behind a desk acting as a secretary. Its easy to talk trash about a group when you know nothing about them isn't it.
nope. i was in the Air Force, which is a couple steps above the Marines. and i was a in training for an A-10 pilot. i did munitions before that. and BTW, my husband who is in the Army wrote the first statement.
Its funny how its known world wide that the U.S. Marines are Americas premier fighting force but amognst its own military there seems to still be denial. I understand though... I mean who could look into their child's eyes when they say my daddies number #1 and reply...well actually honey the Marines are #1 and daddy is in the Army.
Thank GOD I was a Marine...my children always tell people...my daddy was a Recon Marine...and the reply is always..."Marines are the best"...I love it.
Youre wrong on this. No one is the best. Each force is simply really good at what they do. If you really want to go into who is the best, you could argue that all are equal, as each have a component part in the USSOCOM. Again, they are used according to their field of expertise in the specop field.
What I'm trying to say is that a Green Beret is going to be more apt than a Marine infantryman, this doesn't mean however that he is going to be better than a FORECON and vice versa.
@cchanderson haha my brother actualy just graduated from basic today he had the biggest smile i ever seen him wear im air force but one thing i took notice in is that marines seem to have this thick bond with each other not sayin us airmen dont but the bond between marines seems to be extra thick.
@cchanderson Not true. Rangers and Airborne are the best. The Marines are historically the invasion force of American imperialism. They are brainwashed to kill cuz that is their duty and mission - not to ask questions, theirs is to Do or Die. They don't go in without their Navy or Air assets for fire support. When they went to Beirut, they were truck-bombed. Marines guard US Embassies and allied govts.
I like the Rangers and the Screamin Eagles cuz they are fighting legends.
Now, I'm a Marine AVIATOR hopeful, but I see nothing wrong with either RAF pilots or Marine Aviators. All this crap was started because some retard thought one was better than the other. Different missions. When it comes down to it I'd love to be flying with some RAF near me, the more allied pilots around me, the more I like it
The F-35 is slowly being phased in with the F-18 being the last one to be phased out. Either way, the USMC goes places other military branches wouldnt.
Bahaha tank9142, there are several allied nations recieving the f-35, Australia being one of them. Personally i see it at a lost. The Sukhoi-39 out-manevours, out-runs, and can carry a higher payload in arnament than the F-35. On paper it should outfight our aircraft. Lucky allied nations make good pilots ;)
yeah but our planes actually cost money your planes a cessna 150s with a cricket 22 on the side.... and we actually care about our pilots......................
@ZurkElite not that low... you wont be flying jets with lasik for the reason that the flap that the lazer cuts on your eye that they then shut has a chance of opening up from the G's and altitude and that is a big problem... For commercial planes yes you can though obviously
People here have alot of misconceptions about the Marine officer program. Those of you that do should contact and OSO if you really want to be Marine officers one day.
What if you wanted to say become, a helicopter pilot? Is lasic ok to have there? And I do not think you need a 4 year degree to be a heli pilot you need to become a warrant officer and a 2 year degree, and it says nothing about eye surgery like it does for fighter pilots so i was just wondering. I have 20/30 vision but it could become worse so I was wondering.
and just a heads up. Warrant Officers are prior enlisted SSgt's and above, so unless you are willing to spend 15+ years on the enlisted side with an impecable service record before becoming a WO, I would advise you to talk to an OSO and apply for OCS. Dont worry about what you will fly so soon, there are 10,000 things that have to happen in order for you to become a Marine aviator, you are not even on step #1. and YES, you need a 4 years Bachelors to fly in any branch.
1)After a 4 year college, would I begin flight school or during those 4 years of college would I learn to fly?
2) Would I have to fly fighters after training or would I be able to fly transport planes (transporting troops, supplies, etc). Also would transport planes be multi-engine aircrafts.
3) If no to 2nd part of question 2, would I have to work my way up, or is the actually different types of flight training for different types of pilots (transport vs combat)
First off, you have to go to OCS during or after college and then to a school called TBS upon commissioning. Once you complete both OCS and TBS, you then go to pilot training (most likely in NAS Pensacola) to learn the fundamentals of flying. Depending on how well you do in pilot training, you will get selected for your airframe. If you want to be a heavy pilot (cargo)then your options in the USMC are limited to C-130's (4 engines). the govt will not pay for flight training during college
i wouldnt trust any of the people here to give you 100% accuracy do i would call a recruiter, if you dont know the number to any local recruiter call 1-800-MARINES
They'll send you through college and pay for your degree if you qualify. This all depends on your grades, past law violations, physical fitness, etc. You have to give them at least four years as an officer after your college is over. If you're set on becoming an officer, I'd go with that option. Just so you know, I'm not bullshitting you or trying to recruit you. I'm actually enlisted, not an officer, and I'm in the Air Force, not the Marine Corps. Just trying to help you out.
k im way confused, i need some1 with an answer plzz.! i have teerible eyes i were glasses and sometimes contacs, i know i can join with glasses on but can i get surgury AFTER i become a pilot or is that not alowed?
short answer....No. You have to correct your vision prior to even applying for a flight contract or while you are in the process of applying. Pinning on those wings and becoming a pilot is like step 10,000. Applying for a flight contract is step 1. You get the idea.
PRK takes longer for clear vision to return(weeks or months) and both eyes may be done seperately. LASIK, on the other hand, both eyes are done at the same time and vision returns better faster(within a week). the main difference is time and LASIK is usually the preferred eye surgery.
also, PRK is a better surgery for ppl with larger pupils or thin corneas.
You need a BS degree first. Once you get your degree you enlist into the USMC as an officer. If accepted then you choose the "AIR" option at OCS and if accepted you then go from there. Then you hope you pass and qualify for your desired aircraft.
NO NO NO, not how it works. You dont enlist as an officer first of all. It doesn't have to be a bachelors of science either, just a bachelors in ANY area. You choose your air option when you contract before you ever even get selected to OCS.
Okay, you said that already. Congratulations? I think. What's your point exactly? A flight contract doesn't mean shit... okay, maybe it means you did well on your ASTB but that still doesn't mean crap. What type of program are you in? PLC, NROTC, Academy, MECEP, MCP, ECP? - if you are the latter three, which you likely aren't, I apologize for my "informal" speech to a prior enlisted. So which is it?
Im not asking for congratulations, Im not trying to brag, what Im trying to explain to you is that you can get air option before TBS. Thats the point in me even mentioning it. I was OCC but switched to PLC combined so I could get to training early because there are no OCC air slots available until at the earliest next October, what about you? Im not prior enlisted.
Hmm... never said you were trying to brag... you just seemed as if you were trying to act big and bad in your previous comments to other youtube members. That is disgraceful now that I've learned that you're not prior enlisted. Don't talk to those who were in the military like shitbags, i.e. the way you talked to USArmywife. I am Marine-Option NROTC. 4th class MIDN.
I was giving advice because I understand the process of getting to OCS with an air contract and I went after you because you were uneducated on the subject and gave poor advice.
You can take it however you like, I really dont care. If you saw other comments she made about other military branches you might change your mind. There are plenty of people prior enlisted that are shitbags, no different than the fact that there are plenty of civilians that are shitbags. Take care.
haha. I did take a look at her other comments, that is an opinion and she is entitled to it, no need to mouth off to someone whose done a hell of a lot more than you and I have. My advice was accurate, you apparently cannot read. How about you let the people that want information contact an OSO instead of you giving advice as if you know what you're talking about. Yea? Good.
You are entitled to any opinions you want to have, but if someone calls a particular military group "shit" I will call them on it regadless of whether they are prior or not. If you can't understand that then you have some growing up to do.
I dont feel like having an argument with some mouthy kid on youtube. Your information was misleading and uneducated and Ill give people whatever advice I feel like whether or not it hurts your feellings.
I don't know where you get the idea that my advice was inaccurate. You didn't read back far enough in the comments to understand my reply and assumed that I was referring to something that I truly wasn't referring to. Trying to pull a straw-man fallacy on me because your advice were the ones that contained the false information. Removing your comments so that you seem more credible. Sad.
Future Marine Pilot right here!! Rahh!
12ifyMMA 2 months ago
how do you become a marine infantry officer?
M16Killerxo 2 months ago
@JasonRJones1986 yeah me too but hey theres always other branches
G3CK0117 4 months ago
i was really considering this. then i hear having LASIK disqualifies you. kinda messed up
JasonRJones1986 6 months ago
@JasonRJones1986 The US Army has now allowed new pilots to have Lasik Surgery as their eye correction operations. There are also talks from the Navy to do the same with some of their new potential Aviators. I have the same exact problem you have, and currently a Commercial Rated Pilot. I could be wrong, but more than likely, this strict rule may change. As technology and medical innovations expands and change, it might be a matter of time
man11withaplan 4 months ago
@man11withaplan I am thinking of joining, the Officer I talked to today told me that they would pay for PRK but I would rather pay for LASIK myself because I hear a lot of negative about PRK. Am I able to pay for the LASIK myself and the join?
peterjah100 3 months ago
@peterjah100 Lasik believe it or not is not expensive at all. The average pricing is about 500 dollars per eye, so it would be about around 1000 dollars on average, you might find a place that does it for a lower price, trusted that optomologist is certified and experienced.
man11withaplan 3 months ago
@man11withaplan Yeah, I was looking into it today and was surprised at the price. Is LASIK or PRK more invasive? My father had LASIK done 5 years ago and was very pleased with the results, I'm just nervous of anything going near my eye.
peterjah100 3 months ago
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man11withaplan 3 months ago
@peterjah100Consult with a LASIK center with experienced Optomologists, and see what are your options and they will walk you through the process, if your going to the Aviation sector of the Marine Officership, try having a Aviation back round such as I have. But more than likely, just like the Army and the other services, as LASIK becomes more advanced and improved in time, they will lift these restrictions. Just see what your options are right now. Good luck
man11withaplan 3 months ago
What if I already have more than a 100 hours of flight and a certified Private Pilot and commercial rated but having Lasik? PRK is the painful eye surgery to get and more expensive and complex, yet Lasik now a very simple procedure with less than $500 per eye is prohibited? That does not seem fair. Eh, well, let us see what happens? If anybody can elaborate on the eye surgery restrictions, I would appreciate it
man11withaplan 6 months ago 3
@man11withaplan it dosent count military aircraft are diferent from comercila plains, so the diferent training k
MrReeg16 4 months ago
@MrReeg16 Huh?
man11withaplan 4 months ago
@MrReeg16 He would be exempt from IFS (Introductory Flight Screening) a 13 flight hour program that weeds out those who are unable or are unwilling to solo a civilian aircraft.
pharaelga 2 months ago
@man11withaplan After Lasik, the only thing holding your corneas together is scar tissue. If you were to go inside anything with high g-forces(fighter cockpit or centrifuge training) there is a good possibility that your eyes could break open. The Navy is not going to risk $600 million dollars on fairness. Believe me, I need eye surgery as well, and I had the opportunity to ask a pilot this question. The good news is that the Navy provides PRK for free.
bulletarmory 1 month ago
@bulletarmory From what I understand, PRK is the most painful, but even if it is, I may do it, this is something I really want to do with my Service when I get in. Luckily, my eyes also qualify for PRK, just got to save some money.
man11withaplan 1 month ago
@man11withaplan It's not painful. Just a little uncomfortable
scooter986986 1 day ago
Man i want to be a pilot so bad for the Marines
DarkAster06 7 months ago
What kind of four year degree is required to be a pilot?
SoundwaveX7 8 months ago in playlist Military Videos
@SoundwaveX7 a four year college degree in anything although they prefer aerodynamic engineering and stuff like that and are usually not picky about what school you go to as long as its nationally credited
evoldevildogs 7 months ago
do you have to be born in the united states to be a marine?
duhkilla1872nd 8 months ago
@duhkilla1872nd u dont have too be born in the US, but u have to atleast be a legal US citizin.
spartaswolf23 8 months ago
@spartaswolf23 awsome!!! im gonna join as soon as i can:D
duhkilla1872nd 8 months ago
@duhkilla1872nd no man there plenty of beaners in the marines haven't you seen Iraq vids lately
evoldevildogs 7 months ago
@duhkilla1872nd No you have to be a US Citizen though. Not sure if you need to be a native to be a pilot though
anewell41 4 months ago
really? 4 year degree?
BEARARMZ 10 months ago
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@BEARARMZ yes you have to go to college to get in because pilots have to be smart
GOWnH3best 10 months ago
@gmasked nobody gives a fuck
PS3MW2fan 1 year ago
well that just ruined my dream.
99strenght 1 year ago
@99strenght the 4 year degree?
BEARARMZ 10 months ago
@BEARARMZ nah the vision
99strenght 10 months ago
just know, this video is very misleading. you can guarantee flight slots in the Army as a warrant officer, not an officer. and in the Marines, its never guaranteed, its only guaranteed if you fully qualify for it, n can change at any time. Usually if you pass a medical as a marine, the only things left are the Visual and Hearing portions which weed people out. more often vision.
LASIK IS WAIVERABLE, i know several who had it done by the Marines. PRK is also waiverable. LASEK is DISQUALIFYING.
Sharod101 1 year ago
@Sharod101 Umm i had 3 friends who went to WOC (warrent officer Canidate school) from the infantry to be Kiowa pillots...only 1 actualy made it the other 2 didnt...so i dont know were your geting your information from....like ive always been told..."the loudest highest vessel is normaly the empty one"
Texashog74 1 year ago
@Texashog74 Kiowa? sounds more like Army, not Marines. Marines have Cayuse in their lineup, Kiowa's are only found in the Army.
Marine pilots can only be officers, not Warrant Officers. the only branch that allows for a warrant officer to fly is the Army. and they're the only ones that don't have to be enlisted for 7-12 years before becoming a warrant officer (thats how long it takes in the Navy and Marine Corp). you can even become a WO out of high school.
but not in the Marines.
Sharod101 1 year ago
@Sharod101 LMAO can you show me how you can become a WO right out of HS in the Army??? I will wait...LMAO...you dont know what the fuck your talking about...again your pride and ignorance is blocking logic
Texashog74 1 year ago
@Texashog74 MY COWORKER JUST DID. 18 YEARS OLD AND HAD HIS PROFESSIONAL PILOT RATINGS FOR F/W, AND 8 MONTHS OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL GOT INTO WOCS TO FLY FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD.
walk into any recruiter and thats the first option they give you out of high school and wanting to fly.
Sharod101 1 year ago
@Sharod101 The only helicopters the Marine Corps currently employs are Hueys, Cobras, Super Stallions, and Sea Knights. They do not have Cayuses.
scooniepenn 1 year ago
@scooniepenn from what i know, special forces uses the variations of the OH-6
most only fly Venoms, Vipers, Stallions, Super Stallions and Sea Knights. but special forces do fly OH-6, but its not a very open job, rare opening.
maybe they got rid of them, i'm not sure (like the army uses the OH-58 now rather than the OH-6), but as far as i know, they're still in use.
Sharod101 1 year ago
@Sharod101 The most specialized unit in the Marine Corps would be Force Recon/Recon and FAST Company. Its possible they insert into a combat zone using the helos you named, but I'm 100% sure they are just getting a ride and the pilots of those helos are not Marines.
scooniepenn 1 year ago
You can't really create a "How to" video on becoming a Marine.
TheUSMC2017 1 year ago
Four year degree?
RebelFan22x 1 year ago
a four year degree of what?
theman11211994 1 year ago
wow these really dont want you to not crash a 100thousnd dolaar plane
mrmoney185 1 year ago
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4 year degree in college or high school?
marines16301 1 year ago
Marines are the best. First to fight. We handle land, sea, and air, Etc. When you EARN the title of United States Marine, there is no better feeling.
FinalQUEST990 1 year ago
What's the difference between lasic and PR eye surgery
gator12496 1 year ago
Is getting a pilot slot less competitive than the Air Force?
LastXdeth 1 year ago
@LastXdeth The Corps is smaller, therefore MOST things you'll go for will be competative. They only want the best. I wanted infantry contract when I enlisted. Now I'm a combat engineer contract and I'm still trying to get infantry or artillery. So it IS very selective. Maybe not more so, however. Keep in mind you'll also be training more, so more will drop out. All Marine officers are platoon leaders as well as their MOS or job (don't know what officers call their MOS)
Squadomatick 1 year ago
@Squadomatick Well, I originally planned to fly for the Air Force for the obvious reason that it has more aircrafts (not helicopters) than all the other branches. But I'm hearing that it's increasingly difficult to be a pilot in the Air Force because they see their future as one being filled with unmanned UAVs. Also, The Marines are the only one to guarantee a pilot slot as early as your freshmen year if your in the NROTC college program.
Btw, good luck on your infantry contract!
LastXdeth 1 year ago
@LastXdeth Thanks brother. Goodluck in the Fleet. I hope you join the Corps
Squadomatick 1 year ago
nice dog tags sticking out there staff sergeant u truly lead by example
0331USMCGRUNTYUT 1 year ago
The main purpose of the military is to protect the banks that promote poverty and steal homes.
geehuckwow 1 year ago
Two more semesters and I'm calling you guys.
a610412 1 year ago
@Gnoppong
no, they just dont want you crashing a 30 million dollar plane
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sunsetxlungs777 1 year ago
ahem * any of the armed forces, in america
lusteraliaszero 1 year ago
what does the flight physical include?
fuzzacon 1 year ago
so if I had PRK I can still become pilot, thats good, now for the important question, can a foreigner become marine pilot ?
dex9k 1 year ago
@dex9k In order to become a Marine Corps pilot, you need to be a Marine Corps officer. In order to become a Marine officer, you need to be an American citizen.
scooniepenn 1 year ago
@scooniepenn and what if I become American citizen through becoming Marine infatrymen ?
or do I must have American forefather ?
dex9k 1 year ago
@dex9k Yes, you can become an American ciitzen through enlisting in the Marines. After your 4 year enlistment is up, apply for an air contract at OCS. After OCS you're designation will be 7599 (Student Naval Aviator). After your 6 months of TBS which every Marine officer must do, you proceed to Pensacola for flight training.
scooniepenn 1 year ago
Does that all count if you want to fly the ah 1 w supercobra
nimaxx38 1 year ago
Well I guess I'm out my vision is horrible...
a1q2s3 1 year ago
lol core
toddieo1 1 year ago
corpS people
MrKyleSchick 1 year ago
Throughout the captions they spell Corps wrong.
InvictusIncendia 1 year ago
Marine core?..i thought it was Marine corp...well i guess thats why your enlisted
wpierre1994 1 year ago
so to be a f-18 pilot do you have to score really high on the tests or what?
deathgod646 1 year ago
If you join the marines do they pay you like its an actual job?
mmaXwildside 1 year ago
@mmaXwildside all military branches pay you dumbass
CarrollFilms 1 year ago
@mmaXwildside
All Marine pilots are commissioned as 2nd Lieutenants, so I'm guessing pay grade would be the same.
jam0n85 1 year ago
can u have glasses
THEsystemdownload 1 year ago
"That's how the Marines are the only of the Armed Forces who can guarantee a spot in the aviation program."
HEAR THAT, Air Force??? :P
Agent1W 1 year ago
@Agent1W The Air Force Academy graduates are guaranteed pilot slots if they are able to and want to become pilots.
I know personaly.
ArcAngelLMIA 1 year ago
@ArcAngelLMIA Yeah, but you would have to take the AFA's full curricula which I have heard was a big pain! But being able to have a choice in the matter, such as choosing the school you want to go to, sounds better.
Such is the path my great uncle took. He went to U of Texas(I believe) and majored in Aeronautical Engineering and was well on his way to becoming a test pilot in the Navy. Indeed, he loved to fly. That was his passion.
Agent1W 1 year ago
ahh man my vision sucks, ive had glasses since iwas 11 months old. I always wanted to become a pilot for the marines.
PS3MASTERMIND 2 years ago
@PS3MASTERMIND ; If you can get PRK surgery to correct your vision, you can have the surgery waived and you can become a pilot. Although you will have a tough time
Canadaftll 1 year ago
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supercobradown 2 years ago
now you can have lasik surgery
skemebomber69 2 years ago
To anyone wishing to become a Marine, there is a link on my You Tube page.
It goes to a FUTURE MARINE WEB SITE. This site is loaded with good honest info about the USMC
23PorkNBeans 2 years ago
the marines dont need the F-22 its not even gonna be in service for much longer...it is a good plane but comes at to much of a cost and all its capabilities and technology is not needed...why would u spend unnecesary money on a plane when there are cheaper ones that are more than capable of getting the job done....and for as much as the F-22 cost it should do way more
jroc5156 2 years ago
y wouldnt u join the air force
sonofdasea 2 years ago
Because, as they said, the Marines will guarantee you a pilot slot if you pass the written test. The Air Force will not guarantee you a pilot slot.
WrexsouI 2 years ago 4
@WrexsouI Isn't there a catch to the "guarantee pilot slot" thing?
LastXdeth 1 year ago
@LastXdeth The reason they guarantee the pilot slot in the Marine Corps, is because Marine officers have close to 1 years worth of training before flight school kicks off. That 1 year consists of OCS (screening process, basically weeding out those who are not Marine officer material) followed by TBS, where all Marine officers are trained to be rifle platoon commanders (basic infantry officers). OCS is either 10 weeks, or 12 weeks depending on the program and TBS is 6 months.
scooniepenn 1 year ago
@LastXdeth So, assuming you are basically qualified with the initial testing and flight physical, and make it through OCS and TBS, you are guaranteed a spot in flight school. Whether you wash out or not anywhere between OCS and flight school, is entirely up to you and the effort you put in.
scooniepenn 1 year ago 6
@scooniepenn Thanks for the info! Can I still receive the guarantee if I will be comissioning through NROTC?
LastXdeth 1 year ago
@LastXdeth Yes.
scooniepenn 1 year ago
so would you like to fight one?
S1KCR0N1K 2 years ago
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When the USMC needs to learn how to Jump from a aircraft they go to Ft Benning. That is a Army school. Force Recon is a joke in fact most USMC Recon members that go to Ranger school wash out. Last but not least look at the marine seal and tell me what it says. DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY. LMAO
USarmywife19 2 years ago
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vwguyaz87 2 years ago
actually i was in the military.
USarmywife19 2 years ago
You weren't a Marine I bet, and you weren't a ranger. I bet you were some army communications girl behind a desk acting as a secretary. Its easy to talk trash about a group when you know nothing about them isn't it.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
nope. i was in the Air Force, which is a couple steps above the Marines. and i was a in training for an A-10 pilot. i did munitions before that. and BTW, my husband who is in the Army wrote the first statement.
USarmywife19 2 years ago
haha right...
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
Its funny how its known world wide that the U.S. Marines are Americas premier fighting force but amognst its own military there seems to still be denial. I understand though... I mean who could look into their child's eyes when they say my daddies number #1 and reply...well actually honey the Marines are #1 and daddy is in the Army.
Thank GOD I was a Marine...my children always tell people...my daddy was a Recon Marine...and the reply is always..."Marines are the best"...I love it.
cchanderson 2 years ago 41
lol that's funny
We have a conscription, and that who didn't serve can't be called a MAN, even girls doesn't meet with that dudes lol
So if you will tell somebody "I was a marine/ vdv paratrooper/ kgb's border guard/ sailor/ spetsnaz/ etc. answer always will be "and what now?" :D
Scoutrussp7 2 years ago
@cchanderson
Youre wrong on this. No one is the best. Each force is simply really good at what they do. If you really want to go into who is the best, you could argue that all are equal, as each have a component part in the USSOCOM. Again, they are used according to their field of expertise in the specop field.
What I'm trying to say is that a Green Beret is going to be more apt than a Marine infantryman, this doesn't mean however that he is going to be better than a FORECON and vice versa.
mochaos91 1 year ago
@cchanderson I guess you never heard of marketing?
Warpath2198 1 year ago
@cchanderson haha my brother actualy just graduated from basic today he had the biggest smile i ever seen him wear im air force but one thing i took notice in is that marines seem to have this thick bond with each other not sayin us airmen dont but the bond between marines seems to be extra thick.
360floflyer 1 year ago
@cchanderson jaja I love it!!
jorgeyeahman 1 year ago
@cchanderson Not true. Rangers and Airborne are the best. The Marines are historically the invasion force of American imperialism. They are brainwashed to kill cuz that is their duty and mission - not to ask questions, theirs is to Do or Die. They don't go in without their Navy or Air assets for fire support. When they went to Beirut, they were truck-bombed. Marines guard US Embassies and allied govts.
I like the Rangers and the Screamin Eagles cuz they are fighting legends.
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@cchanderson Semper FI!
yoyoyowasuppy 10 months ago
Yeah, maybe so, but Marines are men.
bobandfredpuppet 2 years ago
So whats limit.
sonypics2010 2 years ago
Now, I'm a Marine AVIATOR hopeful, but I see nothing wrong with either RAF pilots or Marine Aviators. All this crap was started because some retard thought one was better than the other. Different missions. When it comes down to it I'd love to be flying with some RAF near me, the more allied pilots around me, the more I like it
t72pwner 2 years ago 11
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@t72pwner The main purpose of the military is to protect the banks that promote poverty and steal homes.
geehuckwow 1 year ago
You mean like the F-35B?
t72pwner 2 years ago
untill 2012 when they have the f-35
tank9142 2 years ago
The F-35 is slowly being phased in with the F-18 being the last one to be phased out. Either way, the USMC goes places other military branches wouldnt.
brendanb89 2 years ago
Bahaha tank9142, there are several allied nations recieving the f-35, Australia being one of them. Personally i see it at a lost. The Sukhoi-39 out-manevours, out-runs, and can carry a higher payload in arnament than the F-35. On paper it should outfight our aircraft. Lucky allied nations make good pilots ;)
FOBulters 2 years ago
i know others will get it but i love skunk works was raised down the street from then
tank9142 2 years ago
Marines are the best force in the entire world, and the F-22 costs ALLLOLOLOLOLTT more then your little eurofighter typhoon
Semper Fi
idiotwithaAK47 2 years ago
if i have athstigmatism can i be a marine pilot
imperfection32 2 years ago
yeah but our planes actually cost money your planes a cessna 150s with a cricket 22 on the side.... and we actually care about our pilots......................
rs4life32 2 years ago
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supercobradown 2 years ago
this dude loves to rock his dog tags like they are bling!
lysaght11 2 years ago 3
Well that sucks i have glasses
xCoDyxT 2 years ago 11
@xCoDyxT well the vid is 2 years old. lasik is allowed in the air force now and eye standards are lower now
ZurkElite 1 year ago
@ZurkElite not that low... you wont be flying jets with lasik for the reason that the flap that the lazer cuts on your eye that they then shut has a chance of opening up from the G's and altitude and that is a big problem... For commercial planes yes you can though obviously
SkatingIsLyfe 1 year ago
@ZurkElite He wasn't talking about the Air Force, he also said 'Standards are alot higher in the Marine Corps'
laurensmalter 1 year ago
@xCoDyxT you can get corrective eye surgery. (laser)
birdboy999999999 1 year ago
@xCoDyxT
you can get a waver if you get laser
xomanowar42 1 year ago
People here have alot of misconceptions about the Marine officer program. Those of you that do should contact and OSO if you really want to be Marine officers one day.
scooniepenn 2 years ago
MY Son will see you in 8 years. GO MARINES
zjoseph1 2 years ago
so hes 10?
SanDiegoFKNROCKS 2 years ago
do the marine reservist get the same respect as the enlisted marine
riffmaster08 2 years ago
What do you think ?
LeonMMA 2 years ago
do college and officer school at the same time during summer, graduate ocs and school at the same time then go basic training and so on
pennyboy2000 2 years ago
What if you wanted to say become, a helicopter pilot? Is lasic ok to have there? And I do not think you need a 4 year degree to be a heli pilot you need to become a warrant officer and a 2 year degree, and it says nothing about eye surgery like it does for fighter pilots so i was just wondering. I have 20/30 vision but it could become worse so I was wondering.
whitescars99 2 years ago
The pipeline to become a Marine Corps pilot goes like this: Talk to an OSO,
apply for OCS if qualified,
get accepted to OCS,
complete OCS
Graduate college/commission as a 2ndLt
attend TBS for 6 months (All Marine officers do this)
Move on to flight school (about 2 years of training). Select a platform at flightschool (helos, jets, tilt-rotor, etc)
Pin your wings on at the completion of flight school, and report to a squadron.
scooniepenn 2 years ago 3
Similar for the Navy minus TBS.
CaptainMorgan896 2 years ago
tbs?
DonE1899 2 years ago
The Basic School, it comes after OCS(Officer Candidates School) and before any flight school.
t72pwner 2 years ago
and just a heads up. Warrant Officers are prior enlisted SSgt's and above, so unless you are willing to spend 15+ years on the enlisted side with an impecable service record before becoming a WO, I would advise you to talk to an OSO and apply for OCS. Dont worry about what you will fly so soon, there are 10,000 things that have to happen in order for you to become a Marine aviator, you are not even on step #1. and YES, you need a 4 years Bachelors to fly in any branch.
scooniepenn 2 years ago
Army offers a program to become an aviation warrant officer without a bachelor's degree, you need a killer asvab though
Calcutta126 2 years ago
Please someone, help me out
1)After a 4 year college, would I begin flight school or during those 4 years of college would I learn to fly?
2) Would I have to fly fighters after training or would I be able to fly transport planes (transporting troops, supplies, etc). Also would transport planes be multi-engine aircrafts.
3) If no to 2nd part of question 2, would I have to work my way up, or is the actually different types of flight training for different types of pilots (transport vs combat)
pyroelement2 2 years ago
First off, you have to go to OCS during or after college and then to a school called TBS upon commissioning. Once you complete both OCS and TBS, you then go to pilot training (most likely in NAS Pensacola) to learn the fundamentals of flying. Depending on how well you do in pilot training, you will get selected for your airframe. If you want to be a heavy pilot (cargo)then your options in the USMC are limited to C-130's (4 engines). the govt will not pay for flight training during college
sabrepilot4u 2 years ago
i wouldnt trust any of the people here to give you 100% accuracy do i would call a recruiter, if you dont know the number to any local recruiter call 1-800-MARINES
Duggs1010 2 years ago
a four year degree? does this mean i have to go to college first or do the marines send me to school after i sign up?
zachbdude 2 years ago
If you get a 4 year degree before you join i believe you could be an officer
xXFutureUSMarineXx 2 years ago
They'll send you through college and pay for your degree if you qualify. This all depends on your grades, past law violations, physical fitness, etc. You have to give them at least four years as an officer after your college is over. If you're set on becoming an officer, I'd go with that option. Just so you know, I'm not bullshitting you or trying to recruit you. I'm actually enlisted, not an officer, and I'm in the Air Force, not the Marine Corps. Just trying to help you out.
TRubioUSAF 2 years ago
k im way confused, i need some1 with an answer plzz.! i have teerible eyes i were glasses and sometimes contacs, i know i can join with glasses on but can i get surgury AFTER i become a pilot or is that not alowed?
snowboardersrule 2 years ago
short answer....No. You have to correct your vision prior to even applying for a flight contract or while you are in the process of applying. Pinning on those wings and becoming a pilot is like step 10,000. Applying for a flight contract is step 1. You get the idea.
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scooniepenn 2 years ago
If your vision is really bad then it will be likely that you do get surgery, free healthcare: take advantage
xXFutureUSMarineXx 2 years ago
they wont pay for your surgery, you have to pay for it
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
PRK takes longer for clear vision to return(weeks or months) and both eyes may be done seperately. LASIK, on the other hand, both eyes are done at the same time and vision returns better faster(within a week). the main difference is time and LASIK is usually the preferred eye surgery.
also, PRK is a better surgery for ppl with larger pupils or thin corneas.
macrod25 2 years ago
how wud i get to be a pilot of a gunship
RomanianRebel 2 years ago
You need a BS degree first. Once you get your degree you enlist into the USMC as an officer. If accepted then you choose the "AIR" option at OCS and if accepted you then go from there. Then you hope you pass and qualify for your desired aircraft.
lavadog 2 years ago
so only officers can be pilots
RomanianRebel 2 years ago
YES.
lavadog 2 years ago
okay..thanks for tha info
RomanianRebel 2 years ago
NO NO NO, not how it works. You dont enlist as an officer first of all. It doesn't have to be a bachelors of science either, just a bachelors in ANY area. You choose your air option when you contract before you ever even get selected to OCS.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
No. You choose at TBS. Fail. Unless, you're NROTC and can nail down a guaranteed flight contract that's reserved only for Marine Options.
Snipza 2 years ago
Are you not Marine Corps? Because I have a guaranteed flight contract as long as I get through OCS.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
Yes, I am a Marine-Option.
Snipza 2 years ago
well idk whats going on with you, Im guaranteed for flight school assuming I make it through OCS.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
Okay, you said that already. Congratulations? I think. What's your point exactly? A flight contract doesn't mean shit... okay, maybe it means you did well on your ASTB but that still doesn't mean crap. What type of program are you in? PLC, NROTC, Academy, MECEP, MCP, ECP? - if you are the latter three, which you likely aren't, I apologize for my "informal" speech to a prior enlisted. So which is it?
Snipza 2 years ago
Im not asking for congratulations, Im not trying to brag, what Im trying to explain to you is that you can get air option before TBS. Thats the point in me even mentioning it. I was OCC but switched to PLC combined so I could get to training early because there are no OCC air slots available until at the earliest next October, what about you? Im not prior enlisted.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
Hmm... never said you were trying to brag... you just seemed as if you were trying to act big and bad in your previous comments to other youtube members. That is disgraceful now that I've learned that you're not prior enlisted. Don't talk to those who were in the military like shitbags, i.e. the way you talked to USArmywife. I am Marine-Option NROTC. 4th class MIDN.
Snipza 2 years ago
I was giving advice because I understand the process of getting to OCS with an air contract and I went after you because you were uneducated on the subject and gave poor advice.
You can take it however you like, I really dont care. If you saw other comments she made about other military branches you might change your mind. There are plenty of people prior enlisted that are shitbags, no different than the fact that there are plenty of civilians that are shitbags. Take care.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
haha. I did take a look at her other comments, that is an opinion and she is entitled to it, no need to mouth off to someone whose done a hell of a lot more than you and I have. My advice was accurate, you apparently cannot read. How about you let the people that want information contact an OSO instead of you giving advice as if you know what you're talking about. Yea? Good.
Snipza 2 years ago
You are entitled to any opinions you want to have, but if someone calls a particular military group "shit" I will call them on it regadless of whether they are prior or not. If you can't understand that then you have some growing up to do.
I dont feel like having an argument with some mouthy kid on youtube. Your information was misleading and uneducated and Ill give people whatever advice I feel like whether or not it hurts your feellings.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
Haha. Trust me, your advice does not hurt my feelings. If you get your butter bar get back to me, then maybe I'll give you a little bit of respect.
Snipza 2 years ago
You shouldn't care whether I give people advice or not, atleast the advice I give is accurate. You're being a hypocrite.
Why would I feel the need to have any respect from you? I really couldn't care less.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago
I don't know where you get the idea that my advice was inaccurate. You didn't read back far enough in the comments to understand my reply and assumed that I was referring to something that I truly wasn't referring to. Trying to pull a straw-man fallacy on me because your advice were the ones that contained the false information. Removing your comments so that you seem more credible. Sad.
Snipza 2 years ago
You said you can't get an air contract before tbs which is wrong. I didnt remove any comments I made to you.
vwguyaz87 2 years ago