It's not "missing" combustion firing! That's exploding unburned fuel in the exhaust. Under load, the much larger fuel charges burn better in the cylinder, due to higher heat and air flow. Thanks for the video!
SUrely this beastie is a semi diesel so you must need to pre heat the cylinder heads before a start atempt. As a hit and miss it will sit on the decompressor valve until the speed drops and then hits to bring the speed back up again.
I like the smoke rings its blowing....I lived in the country and sometimes the quietness was broken up by an approaching vehicle or an old hit/miss engine running a pumpjack.
There is another video of this engine at a show. this time its jumping a bit and its on the ground in a treed area at a show. Its not smoking much and its still scaring the children and small animals. Im not sure what show it was at or who posted the video. What an engine...!!!
I start my 1918 by pulling the wheel clockwise about 3/4 of the wheel then turn it halfway counterclockwise then the compression is in pull it in the opposite drive direction and then let go so the compression takes over moving the wheel forward therefore starting these beautiful engines. I got about 7 medium size then I got a large. Hope that answers how to start these things.
Seriously, these are very interesting old machines, I've not seen one as big as this, but there is the incredible unpredictability of the power stroke that seems so amazing. I suppose, when they have more of a load, the occurrence of power strokes is a little more predictable.
@JimTLonW6 I've seen some smaller ones and when you put a load on them, they hit consistantly, like what you would expect from and internal combustion engine.
sorry 3 people dont know what there looking at . but i do i love it and so do my friends also 3 people would not know how to start it. even they had 2 if it would save them they would be deid. lol
Goodness that's a beast and a half! We often have small hit and miss engines at the shows over here - never seen one even close to that size though. You can see why these things must have been downright terrifying to a low of people used to steam at the time!
lol people usualy put pop cans on the top and when it hits they fly into the air if you put one on there it'd probly go 130 ft in the air and probly hurt like hell on the way down!
You crank it by reversing the flywheel untill compression is felt and then put your foot on one of the spokes whrtr it joins the flywheel an step start it.
Nice old semidiesel with huge flywheels,and it´s so sweet when they blow smokerings,i think we talking about heavy oil engine since it´s smoke so mutch then it´s running,and probely an free play regulator since it´s not running so smootley,but dahm it´s an hardcore engine from the erley days,remember they was use steam on mostley all engine powred mecanism until late 30´s and 40´s
exactly,the exhaust valve is held open by a rpm controled governor and only lets the vlave close when it drops below a set rpm or when the engine is under load and working,it saves fuel by running like that
@ProjectIronclad That's correct, assuming it's a 4-stroke engine. But it seems to me that this is a 2-stroke, thus it's most likely piston ported. And that leads me to believe it turns the fuel off to coast instead of holding the exhaust valve open.
haha, im just kidden, i just laugh when i see this vid, awsome piece of machinery i may say, something made these days would never last that long and still be able to run
I didnt have to pay cash that year, got in for free since i brought an exhibit lol. I didnt see him start it, but im guessing he rotated the flywheel like other comparable engines.
Could you give me a little info on this machine. Is that normal for it to sound like it's missing? What was is used for - harvesting, plowing, etc? Why does it make the 'hit and miss' noises?
It is normal for it to sound like that. Its a stationary engine, meaning it has no transmission or any way to move under its own power. I think this one was used on a mill somewhere. They use the engine to power equipment via belts.
ive tried many times to figure out how they work but could never quite get the grasp of it....
but basically they have a set rpm, and only fire when they need to to keep that rpm, so when its freewheeling like this it will only fire now and then.
under load it would fire everytime to keep its speed up
There is a centrifical weights on the one my dad and i built. Basicly when the engine gets to the desired rpm the expantion of of the weights on the spring push up on a kill switch to shut off power. I think the bigger ones have decompression valves run by cam shafts and clutches.
@WoodwindGirl79 the reason why it only fires sometimes is to keep the engine reving at low revs like a throttle it has a speed governor that holds the exhaust valve open once it gets to a certain rpm so it doesnt get compression then when it drops back below that set rpm it releases it and lets it fire again
yeah. I have some engines over here in england. A Lister, Petter and Wolseley (see my videos). A good hit and miss engine to start with over in North America is a John Deere type E. They are very simple to use. have a look in magazines and on the internet. Your sure to find one somewhere.
It's not "missing" combustion firing! That's exploding unburned fuel in the exhaust. Under load, the much larger fuel charges burn better in the cylinder, due to higher heat and air flow. Thanks for the video!
claudius2u 3 weeks ago
Was this really loud?
MrGotsquashed 1 month ago
I like that!
GoodBadUglyest 2 months ago 2
Very nice
pr191148 2 months ago
Great
pigrep 2 months ago
Does Al Gore approve?
Squarerig 2 months ago
way cool
ems7218 2 months ago
great sounding old engine.
MrDanieldb 3 months ago
Still want one
dadigitechman 4 months ago
Sounds like a powow singing down by the river tonight
volkscom 5 months ago
new meaning to sending smoke signals
2005Danimal 5 months ago
god i love that noise!
AndoCommando3 6 months ago
Did anyone else notice the trailer it was sitting on rocking from the mass of the counterweight and the piston
Awesome!
TheGarbageman22 7 months ago
I bet a tank of gas lasted about 4 years. And that would make a excellent generator engine.
jdamage68 8 months ago
@jdamage68 good generator engine... but it wouldnt run 4 years on a tank of gas... if it can has to be a large one :D
pcblah 7 months ago
love hit and miss engines, don't why, just do , thanks for sharing. tc
gumpster66 8 months ago
So cool!!
TheMeatDroid 8 months ago
SUrely this beastie is a semi diesel so you must need to pre heat the cylinder heads before a start atempt. As a hit and miss it will sit on the decompressor valve until the speed drops and then hits to bring the speed back up again.
Aerozine50 8 months ago
thats something you can bury 6 ft down and someone else can bring it up 200 years later and start it. That beast would start right up and run!!
BNforever2009 9 months ago
i love that sound. so old skool man. i like it very much... thanks for nice video.
tohaiakina 9 months ago
Isn't that what F100's have in them? :)
bobba84 9 months ago
I like the smoke rings its blowing....I lived in the country and sometimes the quietness was broken up by an approaching vehicle or an old hit/miss engine running a pumpjack.
chazoh27 9 months ago
There is another video of this engine at a show. this time its jumping a bit and its on the ground in a treed area at a show. Its not smoking much and its still scaring the children and small animals. Im not sure what show it was at or who posted the video. What an engine...!!!
ejb6604 9 months ago
I start my 1918 by pulling the wheel clockwise about 3/4 of the wheel then turn it halfway counterclockwise then the compression is in pull it in the opposite drive direction and then let go so the compression takes over moving the wheel forward therefore starting these beautiful engines. I got about 7 medium size then I got a large. Hope that answers how to start these things.
Noah12343 9 months ago
@slt223, it's called a hit and miss motor. it's the way it's suppost to be. it hits
93allman 11 months ago
Simply fantastic...
teamfab 11 months ago
run a cleaner fuel...pentanol perhaps
AreYouWetYet 1 year ago
How uch fuel do these burn per hour,,, loaded of course.
Landotter1 1 year ago
yeah absolutely open header lol!
Gridrummer 1 year ago
that is awsome
monkeys1954 1 year ago
Put some cannon balls in the exhaust and shoot down some aliens.
TheNoisePolluter 1 year ago
Fancy building a machine to blow smoke rings!
Seriously, these are very interesting old machines, I've not seen one as big as this, but there is the incredible unpredictability of the power stroke that seems so amazing. I suppose, when they have more of a load, the occurrence of power strokes is a little more predictable.
JimTLonW6 1 year ago
@JimTLonW6 I've seen some smaller ones and when you put a load on them, they hit consistantly, like what you would expect from and internal combustion engine.
GoodBadUglyest 2 months ago
sorry 3 people dont know what there looking at . but i do i love it and so do my friends also 3 people would not know how to start it. even they had 2 if it would save them they would be deid. lol
MrTransam572 1 year ago
sorry 3 people dont know what there looking at . but i do i love it and so do my friends
MrTransam572 1 year ago
Why so much smoke.... Oil slipping by piston?
Landotter1 1 year ago
I want one
Hetman1974 1 year ago
My God watch out, Obongo's liable to take that brute
out with a cruise missile!
4freespeech 1 year ago
How does this opperate?
ValkyrieDrake 1 year ago
sounds like indian drums
ASSEMblerEX 1 year ago
I want one...
dadigitechman 1 year ago
Goodness that's a beast and a half! We often have small hit and miss engines at the shows over here - never seen one even close to that size though. You can see why these things must have been downright terrifying to a low of people used to steam at the time!
ladanut275 1 year ago
You could run a small town on what it is missing in between the hit´s
nekedemus 1 year ago
great sounding engine
MASKIN08 1 year ago
green peace are going to have a fit!
rokinrobin 1 year ago
Emission certified :-)
ollonsvin 1 year ago
Who taught you how to shoot video...
highpockets003 1 year ago
Probably easier to use and maintain than the steam donkey engines available 100 years ago.
Tonyhenthorn 1 year ago
How much torque is there in these machines?
Torvikholm 1 year ago
what a beast, wouldn't want to get the finger caught up in that !!!
jimbothegarbo 1 year ago
Smoke Ring factories
deetdeet7 1 year ago
The kinda enines that real engineers always called "eight strokers"....
mutterschied 1 year ago
Every time that beast goes "KER THUD" she blows a gallon
of oil up the flue. 1918, they must have used that in the Great
War, (WWI). They just set it on the line when the wind was to
the East and Germans started going belly up by the hundreds
from the SMOKE.
4freespeech 1 year ago
This engine has not been at Denton for the last two years - any idea what happened?
2manyhobbies1975 1 year ago
lol people usualy put pop cans on the top and when it hits they fly into the air if you put one on there it'd probly go 130 ft in the air and probly hurt like hell on the way down!
gunny556fly 1 year ago
Sooo dirty!
What an awesome engine.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
lol i love the smoke rings
Bamchucknorris 1 year ago
smokerings!
hendershot2009 1 year ago
The smoke reminds me of.... HAPPY 4TH OF JULY EVERYONE!
roaming2 1 year ago
You crank it by reversing the flywheel untill compression is felt and then put your foot on one of the spokes whrtr it joins the flywheel an step start it.
DammitDrag 1 year ago
Coool what whas the job of this engine
Ismalith 1 year ago
Smokes less and sounds better than my car.
darkwhitedirewolf 1 year ago
sweet man. i live in tyro, which is outside of lexington, if you didn't know.
93allman 1 year ago
is this at the old thresher's renuion in denton farmpark, in denton, NC?
93allman 1 year ago 4
@93allman Yes it was.
bigguy6100 1 year ago
@93allman Why does it sporadically misfire? Might be a dumb question, but I know nothing aout these things. Sure are neat though.
slt223 11 months ago
This is cute old engine, look like shot donut smoke maker, Lol
john1966elliott 1 year ago
its spinning at 240 rpm or 480
Gridrummer 1 year ago
i reckon this engine would scare kids!!
fixitdude74 1 year ago
Nice old semidiesel with huge flywheels,and it´s so sweet when they blow smokerings,i think we talking about heavy oil engine since it´s smoke so mutch then it´s running,and probely an free play regulator since it´s not running so smootley,but dahm it´s an hardcore engine from the erley days,remember they was use steam on mostley all engine powred mecanism until late 30´s and 40´s
jensenmekk 1 year ago
if there was no wind that would make the coolest highest smoke rings!
Jasman35 1 year ago
How fast is that thing spining?!
nealan11 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this video. Watching hit and miss engines in operation is very enjoyable and I hope to visit one of these events this year!
keyboardartist 1 year ago
Man I love this video. I would love to have one of those and someday hopefully I will. That thing is hitting HARD! Great stuff. Just subbed.
mongo5888 1 year ago
Awesome!
bilexperten 1 year ago
Sounds like motar fire.
toadabc 1 year ago
ozone friendly
wopdoper 1 year ago
ozone friendly
wopdoper 1 year ago
ITS A SMOKE RING MACHINE lol brilliant vid and machine
BanditDragoon 1 year ago
guy sounds like he's off king of the hill
tysontomaszewicz 1 year ago
is it just me or do youtube c**k the sound up?
distorted crackles. noticed it on many of these old engine startups. great vid :)
bobstereo 1 year ago
The sound on this one doesn't sound over driven here.
Keep in mind, this thing is running with no muffler - one big cylinder - so it is loud. A challenge to get a good recording of with any equipment.
d455ave 1 year ago
is fuel introduced in the non ignited strokes?? I'm just curious.
RoboTekno 1 year ago
I can't be 100% specific to this engine, but typically, fuel is only introduced for strokes that are fired.
d455ave 1 year ago
very cool.
RoboTekno 1 year ago
exactly,the exhaust valve is held open by a rpm controled governor and only lets the vlave close when it drops below a set rpm or when the engine is under load and working,it saves fuel by running like that
ProjectIronclad 1 year ago
@ProjectIronclad That's correct, assuming it's a 4-stroke engine. But it seems to me that this is a 2-stroke, thus it's most likely piston ported. And that leads me to believe it turns the fuel off to coast instead of holding the exhaust valve open.
bonecrime 1 year ago
That's cool! Must be a giant version of the engine in my dad's Toyota!
Kolfritz 2 years ago 2
you sure this thing doesnt run on steam
haha, im just kidden, i just laugh when i see this vid, awsome piece of machinery i may say, something made these days would never last that long and still be able to run
45x45bw 2 years ago 5
cloud machine,
it's sounds like a morter
69plasticbags 2 years ago 4
deisel love the clag
biggdaddy2001 2 years ago
I'd pay cold cash to see that beast in person. Just amazing piece of machinery. How in the heck did he start it?
fadatuberadioman 2 years ago 15
I didnt have to pay cash that year, got in for free since i brought an exhibit lol. I didnt see him start it, but im guessing he rotated the flywheel like other comparable engines.
bigguy6100 2 years ago 3
I wonder if he started it with a cartridge?
Either that or bump it of compression.
steamwally 1 year ago
@fadatuberadioman with the size of the engine he probably used compressed air
carlover866 1 year ago
1:29 yeah baby crank her up
DayWaiter 2 years ago
nice!!! listen to that!
robtherockrider 2 years ago
Oh yes, This does it for me!
carmenlee87 2 years ago
Thanks for posting that, it brought a smile to my face at 7:09 am!!
humanfly69 2 years ago
Man, I'd sure hate to get caught in that flywheel! It probably wouldn't even bog this machine down!
rabie4x4 2 years ago 2
Great machine, great sound for a h.a.m.
I first thought of the machine in willy wonkas factory
bigtank2185 2 years ago
put a cannon ball down the exsaust!!!!
Geminimissions 2 years ago 2
Great video! I love how you panned up to catch the smoke rings. Great sound and all around well done video. I liked your commentary too.
What a beast this engine! I can smell the clag here in my living room!
Five stars for this one. *****
Again, well done!
Rick
rickbell7 2 years ago
i wonder how much fuel it uses per hour.
awsome sound and smoke rings! love it!
kddcc 2 years ago
her luktar inget kiss eller hur
å hils din hårda svåger
mekanikker 2 years ago
man what a great sounding engine!
Gridrummer 2 years ago 18
they sure don't make em like the used to! blows some exhaust smoke rings damn high!
DieselsAndDiodes 2 years ago 2
The sound is like a big gun - very nice!
Bidone1967 2 years ago
That thing sound badass under load...nice engine.
ThatYankeeKid 2 years ago 3
and I thought my lister D was smokey...
steamwally 2 years ago
Don't tell Al Gore! :P
bonecrime 2 years ago 5
fuck Al Gore!!
trucker765 2 years ago 45
@trucker765 Agreed.
mongo5888 1 year ago
maybe,we should stick him in that smokestack while running and see what happens(-:
FOOOOOMMMP!
MrBshit225 2 years ago
these engines fascinate me:D
grettagrids 2 years ago
my friend has one of these that he got from pennsylvania oil fields
nyjoe92 2 years ago
What fuel do you suppose is being ran in that? Kerosene?
With the technology of today these Hit and Miss engines are sure to be wonderful power sources!
KanineKruizer 2 years ago
It was running on kerosene
bigguy6100 2 years ago
can't kill em, thats what I love about these old engines; it's no wonder I still see some of them in use today :)
cumminsturbofan101 2 years ago
very nice engine i love the sound and smoke rings 5 stars*****
jakeyloser 2 years ago
the smoke looks cool, and is a nice engine too
boa721 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i love the sound but i do hate the smoke
GayBoyRunning 2 years ago
then don't breath it
boa721 2 years ago 2
Yeah Earth love This :P
Nannu65 2 years ago 3
Fantastic sound that I love it.
mauser88mm 2 years ago 5
Lovely engine, no ecological crab in that !
HENNINGKROG 2 years ago
Hahahaha, what a great ole machine - make sure no one tells the tree huggers about it though, it would be as popular as that wanker Bush...
Evildiesels 2 years ago 2
I can almost smell the clag from here
dasy2k1 2 years ago 2
Absolutely fun to watch a great piece of machinery such as this running. It brings back great memories! Great camera work! Thanks for posting this!
keyboardartist 2 years ago
chug chug chug chug - there is something satisfying about watching such a machine at work.
sudnaidu 2 years ago 2
Lovely.
Good camera working.
yonaoimete 2 years ago
You could shoot birds outa the sky with that thing! Love that sound.
butlerproman 2 years ago
They dont make them like the used to, shame really. Looks like a great day out though
carmenlee87 2 years ago
Could you give me a little info on this machine. Is that normal for it to sound like it's missing? What was is used for - harvesting, plowing, etc? Why does it make the 'hit and miss' noises?
Thanks - it's a fascinating piece of equipment!
Cassy
WoodwindGirl79 2 years ago
It is normal for it to sound like that. Its a stationary engine, meaning it has no transmission or any way to move under its own power. I think this one was used on a mill somewhere. They use the engine to power equipment via belts.
bigguy6100 2 years ago
ive tried many times to figure out how they work but could never quite get the grasp of it....
but basically they have a set rpm, and only fire when they need to to keep that rpm, so when its freewheeling like this it will only fire now and then.
under load it would fire everytime to keep its speed up
mageac 2 years ago
There is a centrifical weights on the one my dad and i built. Basicly when the engine gets to the desired rpm the expantion of of the weights on the spring push up on a kill switch to shut off power. I think the bigger ones have decompression valves run by cam shafts and clutches.
rasr10 2 years ago
@WoodwindGirl79 the reason why it only fires sometimes is to keep the engine reving at low revs like a throttle it has a speed governor that holds the exhaust valve open once it gets to a certain rpm so it doesnt get compression then when it drops back below that set rpm it releases it and lets it fire again
haggis240 1 year ago
Damn that thang is hittin a lick!!!
tetekofa 2 years ago
I love the smoke rings. awesome!
farmall99 2 years ago
is it just me or is the trailer bobbing up and down?
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
It is, and so is the large IH Diesel truck its hooked to. The running Bessemer is making everything shake
bigguy6100 2 years ago
Mooi antiek spul.
morekew 3 years ago
now thats AMAZING
nitro74cs 3 years ago
what a wonderful piece of engineering..
no miracle why those babies are called hit'n'miss
its one of the best videos of a hit'n'miss engnie on youtube.. cause this baby running on oil, not on propane like the most here on youtube.
i wonder why the output of this engines is mesured in H.P. not in Torque :))
sorry for my english, best wishes the shrimp
angryshrimp 3 years ago
I saw one of these at a fair that was running great and peeling kernels off corn and spitting out corn kobs.
Ureallydontknow 3 years ago
I guess I just learned why these babies are called hit 'n miss :)
SmokeyDikkie 3 years ago
thing blows a hell of a smoke ring huh?
thebestlespaul1 3 years ago
ive seen a huge hit and miss engine that was used on a bessemer train that was the LOUDEST ENGINE ive ever heard in my life i mean ground shaking!!!!
sideshow45 3 years ago
I am so turned on right now...and there's nothing wrong with that.
rainn24 3 years ago
I love it! I have seen this thing run in person and it's awsome!
IHCBanjo 3 years ago
Damn..that thing is cool...I'd love to see it run in person....wow!
Breakfastchief 3 years ago
yeah. I have some engines over here in england. A Lister, Petter and Wolseley (see my videos). A good hit and miss engine to start with over in North America is a John Deere type E. They are very simple to use. have a look in magazines and on the internet. Your sure to find one somewhere.
angamoos 3 years ago
great video! those engine really are huge earnt they. do you have any engines yourself?
angamoos 3 years ago
No, no engines, though I do have some antique tractors. Id love to get my hands on a hit and miss engine
bigguy6100 3 years ago
Cool this girl.. likes the sound of that
SweetBreannaUSA 3 years ago
Glad you like it, though the video doesnt do it justice. Each time it would do a sharp pop, it was like a shotgun, it would echo through the woods.
bigguy6100 3 years ago
That was so awesome and thank you for all of your video`s.
dmlouisiana 3 years ago
You're welcome. I like to share the unusual and different things that go on with people.
bigguy6100 3 years ago