Worst slowroll in televised World Series of Poker (US Main Event) History - Hilton Laborda

[xTommyC]

lol. that was a pretty hard slowroll...i liked the vid to try to get the bar more green

[DaMastaFlush]

anyone notice future champ pius heinz in the vid :)

[sethmango]

Did they say Wayne Jackoff? 0:14-0:16

[JumboJivan]

Does it really matter if he waits a total of 2 seconds to flip his cards? He would have won either way.. Lol, people get into the weirdest arguments these days.

[MrBleedblueandwhite]

Makes me wonder if he even realized he had 'the nuts'.  Maybe he had a brainfart or is a donkey. Regardless, this was a slowroll.

[Ictrlurmnd]

You people are lame. So fucking what if he took a few extra seconds. I hope y'all get slow rolled next time you play... and get sucked out.

[kake739]

wow i'm reading through the comments here, and a lot of great stuff! If he is afraid of QJ spades or clubs, witch i still think is a lame excuse, he could at least announce he got the nuts before thinking about it! He could also flip the cards up right after he calls but chooses not to, so therefor a slowroll!

[Ictrlurmnd]

It's 77% vs 23% 1:4. Sure you are going to call but you might want to have a double think about it as it is WSOP etc etc

[kake739]

"To show down one's cards in a manner that allows another player to believe momentarily that they have won, such as pausing before revealing them or revealing them one at a time." ALL ARGUMENTS ARE INVALID!

[TymHollerup]

Do you actually understand the term slowroll? I'm not seeing it here. You sir are a complete idiot. This is a WSOP event. There is NO reason not to weigh ALL of the options with one card left to come.

[TymHollerup]

Not to mention the fact that there are two separate flush draw possibilities as well. So in all you have done a very good job of proving your incompetence as a human being. Bravo.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@TymHollerup Please play at my table for you are the idiot. I WILL SAY THIS ONE LAST TIME. A SLOWROLL IS STILL A SLOWROLL even if there is a POSSIBILITY OF BEING DRAWN OUT ON! We are not talking about QJ of clubs here. He had the nuts. There was one hand that was the nuts with a flush draw and if you are afraid of that hand or getting drawn out on by a set, quit playing poker today because that is scared poker. This is a snap call or a call after 5/6 seconds at WORST. Read the other posts here.

[cathey127]

this guy is terrible. taking time calling an all in with nuts is BAD ETIQUETTE. that should be end of the sentence. no matter how many outs the other party could have, nuts should instant call. For gods sake they're on OUTS. I saw the video of him making the wheel on the river (called big raises with an unpaired no draw 53s), and I thought that was it. Gosh people should keep him out of poker events. what a disgrace

[jajison]

This is a slowroll. No doubt. There is no other hand that beats him and he takes a while to think about calling an all-in? Ridiculous. And then he has the audacity to wait to turn his hand over. Why do that?

[mikesmusic1988]

this is absolutely a slowroll ... hes way ahead of trips and flush draws. this guy is an idiot

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@mikesmusic1988  exactly

[arnaldo717]

slowrolling wanker, deserved the board to pair

[HellmuthOnTilt4]

i find it funny how people are arguing that he could of folded the nuts hes atleast 75% over any hand what is there 2 argue about no1 anywere in that spot is folding ever and i mean ever simple as that

[kstrauch2234]

@theantihero420 hes right. There are other videos posted that comfirm how slow he acts

[kstrauch2234]

@haters blablabla. Thats all I am reading, it took him less than 20 seconds to put his tournament life on the line. You obv have to make the call but come on it's trivial. I'm sure if the board pairs this video dosn't even get posted

[HellmuthOnTilt4]

@kstrauch2234 you obviously dont play much live poker if someone waits 20 seconds 2 call and your sat there with top set ( 2nd nuts) you are licking your lips , belive me if your the guy with KK there that is a very long time , ino i wouldnt of been as calm as that guy was i would of wrapped tht flag round his neck , all i can say is well done to him for keeping his cool.

[farronx]

@HellmuthOnTilt4

You're an over emotional fish. I'd love to see you coming to the table. All your "lip licking" & wanting to "wrap the flag around a players neck" makes me wonder how many other tells do you give off.

Your stupidity makes Hellmuth's freak outs seem sane.

Fuckn spaz.

[DP2theizzle]

Uh, that is most definitely a slowroll. Just some dumb fuck beaner that gets a kick out of doing shit like that. He has the nuts, he's not folding, what is he waiting for?

On a side note, not a great flop check with KK 3way on a board texture like that.

[seviren]

Laborda seems retarded tho... like a half out, keep him away from children and small animals type of guy

[tmoney0728]

to anyone that is say that this is not a slow roll you are an idiot Laborda is a 75% favorite to any other hand and to anyone that knows anything about any kind of gambling those are great odds. i think the hand with the most outs against him is AJ of spades

[weatherallc05]

DO NOT SLOWROLL, simple

[diabolikal30]

it wasnt a slow roll at all. that guy was just too stupid to know his odds.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@diabolikal30 You're wrong. This guy made it deep enough in the tournament to know enough about poker to know what a slowroll was.

[diabolikal30]

@MichaelMcDermott123 He was simply making sure he had correct odds, or he is just an idiot. Either way, stop listening to the two morons commentating. Watch the vid on mute and then you'll see.

[kstrauch2234]

I disagree it being a slowroll. It make seem like he took long but any hand he has in that spot will have outs, he could even have the same hand freerolling spades or clubs. Its a big spot even though you are forced to make the call.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@kstrauch2234 It is the NUTS at that point and he not only waited for the KK to turn over (which he had a right to do) but then paused some more and then nonchalantly flipped over his cards. Watch it again, that is a slowroll.

[peterlohnes1]

@MichaelMcDermott123 ya but its not a slowroll for the reason you think. He doesnt want to see JQ of spades, and he also doesnt want to face this situation...its small ball poker, and you dont want to lose all your chips...simple as that.

[Drewski0513]

@peterlohnes1 I think small ball poker suggests you iinsta call with the fucking nuts.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@peterlohnes1 You can't be afraid of QJ of spades in this spot!!!

[farronx]

@peterlohnes1

The up loader isn't considering the guy had 10 outs as well.

While it was a slow roll it certainly wasn't the slowest seen & done by pro players on TV.

In addition to that I didn't hear 1 player speak to the fact that this was too slow.

[Anaxagoran]

@kstrauch2234 Even if another hand has outs, you are a moron to fold the nuts in any position. It was a slowroll.

[tommyXBOX360]

@kstrauch2234 It's a slowroll! Your argument is embarrasing

[UntilYouCollapse]

@kstrauch2234 This ain't no PLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you gotta autocall with the nuts w/ 1 to come no matter the draws. Always ahead. Also this was ITM, so ICM should be less of a factor.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@UntilYouCollapse Well said.

[Theapsodifugh]

i guess thats why hes an amateur

[MichaelMcDermott123]

I am the uploader and I am still waiting for one of the 'dislikes' or people arguing this is not a slowroll to post ANY VIDEO currently on youtube that refutes this title! Show me a longer slowroll in American WSOP history. Please, upload it or post it. I'm waiting!

[67steinip]

@MichaelMcDermott123 What the hell were you talking about in that comment you wrote to me, i just saw in my email account something about "LOL Decision?" i suggest you read my comment again because it said nothing about a decision..

[rulrich25]

@MichaelMcDermott123 if you're looking for a longer slow roll, Jack Ury did one from 2009.....but by no means do I think it's worse than Laborda's......so thus far I think your title is accurate....Ury's was more hollywooding and entertaining.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@rulrich25 Not true. I can't post the link here but if you search for "Jack Ury is back" and watch the video, he only waits about 11/12 seconds, and under even the most conservative timer NOT twenty.

[vaindacrit]

@MichaelMcDermott123 not a slowroll.  there was a flush draw out there. yes, Laborda had the nuts "at the time" during the "turn." and yes people go all in on a draw, so why get excited and instant call when you can put your opponent on a flush draw...also there are other variables involved like chip stack, position, pre-flop raises, opponent tendencies etc.

yes, its obvious he didn't have the flush draw, but Laborda did not know this and the reason why he took his time...welcome to poker.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@vaindacrit So answer me ONE question. Would you ever lay this down in the WSOP to any raise with any stack size. I would love to have you respond that you would fold 'the nuts' at that point to any bet in a tournament, even on the bubble.

[trisectors]

@MichaelMcDermott123 True !! This is the longest one. The longer ones are in cash games and special tournaments

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@trisectors THANK YOU! Finally, someone with some common sense!

[seviren]

@MichaelMcDermott123 i thought the biggest slow roll was that super old guy who had a fullhouse... idk what its called but im pretty sure its that...

[PzIz]

@seviren

yeah but that guy was like 105 years old and had a week or something to live, TOPS.. He is allowed ;)

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@seviren Nope, you are referring to Jack Ury and he only waits 11 seconds during his slowroll. Search "Jack Ury is back".

[theantihero420]

@MichaelMcDermott123 The guy in your video could simply be a slow (read not bright) player.  THIS is a slowroll. watch?v=RLsyydPYoqg

[farronx]

@MichaelMcDermott23

Your up-load rides the line of a slow roll but it certainly isn't the slowest of slow rolls seen. Just b/c it may not be on You Tube doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's a weak stance.

Your vid leaves room for debate;no matter how trivial.

Type in (sick slowroll @ 2010 world cup of Poker) & tell me how your vid compares. Once you're done facing that reality; you can aptly change the misleading title of this vid or probably better yet; remove it.

Tc

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[MichaelMcDermott123]

@farronx It is the slowest of slowrolls in the US MAIN EVENT WSOP and does not include the 2010 WCOP. I still am waiting for a longer slowroll!! PLEASE POST IT AND SHOW ME!!!

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@farronx I said in TELEVISED WSOP (US MAIN EVENT) history. Post a video, of which that reveals a longer slowroll or don't vote the video down because you believe a video exists (but can't find it).

[farronx]

@Michael

Ur asking for & arguing childish semantics.

Why does it matter if it took place in America or not?

A slow-roll "TELEVISED" in the "U.S." is no slower or faster than the example I gave you of the video titled (sick slowroll @ 2010 world cup of Poker).

They are all (supposed) Professional players on TELEVISION.

Surely you're not advocating that the U.S. has all of the best players?

Now go watch the vid for a worse slow roll than this & enjoy that dish of crow.

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[MichaelMcDermott123]

@farronx It is not semantics. The US WSOP was the only televised poker for decades. It matters much more than the myriad of tournaments that exist today because of it's success.

I don't want to compare this slowroll to several hundred thousand other poker videos in other tournaments the world over, so I chose the most famous and biggest US tournament (because that is my country of residence). I am saying that you will not find a single video on youtube (i.e. televised US WSOP) that compares.

[farronx]

@Michael

Then U should title it:

"my favorite U.S. slow roll (because that is my country of residence)."

Perhaps that might stop your red dislike bar from getting any longer.

Lmbao...

The other pro tourneys around the world are no less successful & the slow roll I gave U blows this one right out of the water. Leaving no room for debate like your vid does.

Laborda is a slow & deliberate player by nature that's why U didn't hear an outcry of "slow-roll" @ the table.

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[MichaelMcDermott123]

@farronx The dislike bar is an indication of how many fish there are in this world. They can't even understand what a slowroll is!! LOL.

Outcry??!?! The announcer himself said Laborda "slowrolls the nuts" @ 2:14!

[farronx]

@Michael

Name calling aside I'd love to play hold-em w/ you.

Slow play obviously puts you on tilt.

Look guy I'm not saying it wasn't a slow roll b/c it was. Again; a slow player like Laborda leaves room for the debate & your long red dislike bar(which I hope changes for ya).

I could be wrong but the last time I checked the "announcers" get to see everyone's cards & they aren't playing @ the table. It wasn't a big deal to the players so you should get over it too.

tc

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[Kidder15]

@MichaelMcDermott123 look up Jack Ury's slowroll

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@Kidder15 I have looked it up. IT IS NOT LONGER THAN THIS SLOWROLL. Look for yourself.

[tmoney0728]

I wonder if he knew he did it hes a professional i would to think he knows what a slow roll is

[KILLtheMESSENGER101]

dumb morons these kind of idiots need to be shot and chucked in the middle of the desert fucken morons this is the same idiot that called on a gut shot and made it on the river THESE CUNTS ANNOY THE FUCK OUTTA ME I WANNA KILL HIM AND WHAT HE STANDS FOR DUMB ASS BRAZILLANS.

[lolipedofin]

Wasn't he the donk that call the bets on flop and turn with nothing but an inside straight draw, and miraculously hitting his 4 outs on the river?? I don't think this is a slowroll... he is just that stupid.

[Habaaash]

Guys he didnt want to slowroll. Hes just so dumb it took him 20 seconds to see he has the nuts

[ILIKESTORIES]

No comments that he yells his name after he gets up? This is the kinda guy who yells out his own name during sex.

[hemightbejeremy]

If you guys think the players get to the final table by calling consistently all in with 75% hands and just through a string of incredible luck never get sucked out on, I am going to have to disagree with you. You get there by playing good poker and minimizing the time you risk your entire stack, not sticking all your chips in the middle and hoping for the best.

[lolipedofin]

@hemightbejeremy Are you saying you won't shove all-in preflop with Aces??? That there are times when it is good to fold it pre-flop?? Because that's a 70% hand....

I know what you are saying though.. To never go all-in until the end of the tournament means that you won the tournament.

but in this case, it is an obvious call... to get sucked out is part of poker, and that's why there's bankroll management and multiple card runs, something that is not part of tournament games.

[hemightbejeremy]

@lolipedofin I would prefer not to shove all-in preflop with any hand when i have a very deep stack in tournaments and I'm sure most solid players would feel the same. Also I never said that I wouldn't do this or wouldn't do that. I simply stated that when you are playing a tournament of this magnitude, are deep stacked, and are raised all in, and don't have the absolute nuts, it isn't unreasonable to think for a little while before calling for your tournament life.

[lifeislife91]

@lolipedofin

if you are one spot away from the money and have flopped the nut straight, but there are two opponents with a higher straight draw, one with a flush draw, and one with a set and everyone's going all in, would you call? Similarly, one spot away from the money, you have aces on the button and five people have gone all in before you, would you call? In both cases, you have the nuts but are an underdog. You are the favorite to win the hand, but win less than half the time.

[lolipedofin]

@lifeislife91 No, you are not an underdog with Aces even with 5 people went all-in behind you. Technically, against any card you are still the favorite to win, albeit with much smaller percentage, less than 30% probably (which is more than the rest). As for the first example, yes it is true, but you don't get to see your oppoent card in Hold'Em. And unless you had a stone cold read on your opponent, 90% of the times, folding would be a losing option.

[lifeislife91]

@lolipedofin Yeah that's what I meant. The Aces are the favorites to win, as in if i had to choose a hand it would be the aces; but the situation overall is a losing one if you're one spot away from the money. So even though aces are the nuts, I'd still fold them if I'm on the bubble. I'd rather guarantee the money than go all in with a less than 50% chance to win and end up with nothing. Make sense?

[lolipedofin]

@lifeislife91 True, I would most likely fold aces in that situation. But to be honest, is there ever any situation where 5 people went all-in preflop other than in zynga? Even a megadonk will think thrice to call when there's already 3 people going all-in. But even on the bubble, I would probably go all-in if I have all those 5 people chips covered.

[smb1103]

@lifeislife91fold aces on the bubble? omfg. so what is the point of playing tournaments for then? you dont play just so you can nudge into the money, you play because you want to win right?

[Daystodaze]

Bad call with QJ preflop,

Bad check with top set.

Bad bet with flush draw on turn,

Bad slow role, he didnt raise that much to make him fold so whats he waiting for. ( he slow rolled, he should have thought about facing a shove when he raised in the first place),

[ddpsp]

IT'S A FIVE!!

[guanaco103]

Remember when chasing a Gutshot was a stupid play ?? lol

[Kentmoney53]

Worst title.

[aferrar2]

ODDJOB!?!?

[push27offsuit]

not really a slowroll, the board was pretty wet, it was an obv call but he couldve been double checking the board to make sure he didnt misread it, id rather take an extra 10 seconds then going out on national tv looking like an idiot.

[iSpeakstheTruth]

@push27offsuit you would've checked your cards before raising the bet and call on the turn... there is no reason to take any longer than 2 seconds to call that all in.

[gotitans999]

That wasn't a slowroll, he tried to get a tell since he knew he was going to call and he just wanted to figure out what happened. Based on the players, he might have folded with a big stack left to safely beat the players rather than risk his life. Of course he had to call, but not a slowroll.

[kyle0588]

@gotitans999 ure a moron ! shit like this gets u beaten in the parking lot at some casinos

[gotitans999]

@kyle0588 Wrong. Smarter poker players know they will call but will try to get a read on them since they know they will see their cards, this could help for future pots in case you lose. You're still in poker 101 whereas I'm in the more advanced section.

[kyle0588]

@gotitans999 your a idiot your trying to seem smart , i have a feeling you have never been invited to the same live game twice if you do shit like that or yor a retard that has never played live only online

[gotitans999]

@kyle0588 I play in black hawk colorado every weekend. I've made a lot more getting tells on people knowing I'm going to call but trying to see what I can get out of them. Over time you notice the same responses so it saves/makes me more money. Grown up poker players know this and don't call it a slow roll. If you can easily beat a table of donks, sometimes it makes better since to fold and not gamble with them and instead wait until the nuts on the river.

[1Theprinceofdarknes1]

he said queen jackoff suit hahaha lol

[MrMicko21]

whats to think about this guy is a clown

[dan11588]

people who slow roll should get punched in the fucking face

[mbr05c]

It's not a slowroll. It's a retarded high buy in and it pays to think about the plays before he makes them. You have to think there that a semibluff could send Laborda home there with a flush draw. Even the Kings were drawing to a better hand. It would have been a slowroll if he didn't show his cards until the river came out or until the Kings had been turned, BUT he turned his cards over very shortly after the call. He might have played it slow, but not a slowroll.

[cotegt]

@mbr05c you have no idea what your talking about, its obvious your dont play poker in casinos.

[GreenDeathFlavor]

Don't justify this morons this is a pretty bad player and a pretty bad slowroll. In a poker tournament you're never folding the nuts on the turn.

[stonedtoperfection22]

lol thats a huge slow roll.

[flashrabbit9]

super sick that the other guy has the second nuts too

[flashrabbit9]

anybody that says this is not a slowroll literally knows absolutely nothing about poker

[hemightbejeremy]

He had the nuts, but when someone raises you all in 4 times the pot and you could be going home it isn't that easy. Having the nuts doesn't mean that he couldn't be beat on the river for all of his chips or is even necessarily a favorite to win the hand. Hands like AsJs and AcJc are not in that bad of shape and could complete a higher straight or flush. Any set or 2 pair is drawing to a full house, and QcJc would be favored to win. Even after calling he gets sent home 1 time out of 4 there.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@hemightbejeremy He waits from 1:45 to 2:05 and then says 'Call' without checking his cards.

He knew he had the nuts the whole time. It doesn't matter that a set can boat up. You snap call out of respect for the other player and at worst check your cards once and call within 5-6 seconds...not TWENTY!

[llIIIMademanIIIllll]

@MichaelMcDermott123 Lol he waited 20seconds what a drama...maybe he was just thinkin what he can have before he can see it...to see if he made the right read or something

[freddii89]

@MichaelMcDermott123 Respect for the opponent? This is the WSOP, and you're being asked to call all in on an extremely draw heavy board. If you want to take 20 seconds, you take 20 seconds. I dont see what is so humiliating for anyone if someone doesnt call you straight away.

[KILLtheMESSENGER101]

@MichaelMcDermott123 totally agree with what your saying and this is the same person that chased a gut shot and made it on the river with AK betting on all 3 streaks but i guess you can never get rid of these idiots.

[daytona0]

@hemightbejeremy that is a load of crap.

Qc Jc would have the most equity vs Qs Jh here (0.6 EV) and any other hand is underdog.

[hemightbejeremy]

@daytona0 You don't always call for your tournament life just because you have the best hand when you are raised all in and there is a flush draw on the board. Even if you are a 4-1 favorite, you aren't going to last long in a big tournament calling for all your chips on a regular basis. It is obvious the guy raising has a hand. It wouldn't even be that bad of a suckout if he had sent Laborda home here.

[daytona0]

@hemightbejeremy

I wish I were able to fold the nuts reguarly in the main event and go on to score a big cash :p

[hemightbejeremy]

@daytona0 4th street nuts is not the stone cold nuts particularly with 2 clubs and 2 spades out. You can't compare cash game to tournament. In tournament poker sometimes you fold the best hand to an all in raise to live to fight another day. Maybe you double up 3 times out of 4 by calling all in there, but the 1 time you don't, you are eliminated. Early on some professionals are folding in that spot and playing small ball because when all your chips are at risk anything can happen.

[daytona0]

@hemightbejeremy the mathamtics (when using pokerstove) is comparable to running AA vs KK pre-flop. Now by your logic we fold AA pre-flop if we suspect villain has KK (which by virtue includes his entire hand range).... Don't you think that is faulty? You can't fold in a highly profitable position like this. ONly case is when the prize pool is uniform and your on the bubble (ie a satellite). Otherwise you aint ever gonna win the big money

[daytona0]

@hemightbejeremy according to you we fold in the following spot;

dealt to player A: Ts 7s (0.2 EV)

dealt to hero: Ad Ah (0.8 EV)

player A: raises to 40k

hero: raises to 240k

player A: shoves all in for 1.4mil

hero: folds

and if we run Qs Jd against {KK,TT-99,33,AcQc,AsQs,AcJc,As­Js,AcTc,AsTs,Ac9c,As9s,KTs-K9s­,QJs,T9s,KTo-K9o,QJo,T9o}

we see that QJ is 0.79 EV to beat that range.

I thus conclude that by folding QJ on the turn here you must fold AA to a pre-flop shove by T7s

[hemightbejeremy]

@daytona0 Again in a cash game it is an insta-call, but there are more variables in a tournament format with a increasing pay scale based on when you are eliminated and players trying to survive. Any way you slice it he is risking his tournament by calling. If he is one of the top few stacks calling all of his chips even with the best hand is the wrong play in that situation. I can't imagine a situation where AA calls a shove from T7s preflop unless someone is short stacked.

[daytona0]

@hemightbejeremy so let me just sum up.... You FOLD AA to a pre-flop shove??! You therefore fold ANY hand to a pre-flop shove. You sir are a nit. Pure and simple.

Good poker is about putting your money in good more often than not. If you fold your 0.8EV situations then you are a losing player. Pure and simple.

In fact I don't know whyy im even responding. Gl at the tables bro, and don't forget to lay down your AA pre-flop because you MIGHT get beat!!!! hahahahahaha

[JSBushey]

@hemightbejeremy yo hemightbejeremy ur are an idiot to even try justifying why he slowrolled this dude, no matter what the guy could have if you have the nuts and u know u do, and someone has moved all in before you, u have to insta call and just hope to brick the river, anything else is just fucking ignorant unless u just give one quick check to make sure u have what u think u have. I play poker for a living and slowrolling is the #1 most fucking ridiculous play anyone can do.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@hemightbejeremy What in the world are you talking about? Is it possible for the preflop raiser to have raised with QcJc? Yes. But it is HIGHLY unlikely and is the ONE AND ONLY hand combination that gives the opposing player a freeroll to a flush with the made straight. If you are going to play poker with the fear that your made straight isn't ahead but actually has a chance to get flushed out because you are afraid of ONE HAND, please play at my table!!!

[daytona0]

@MichaelMcDermott123 as I said in a post previously, it isn't impossible for you to have 0.8EV against villains all in range here. Therefore by virtue we should fold AA pre-flop if T7s decides to shove all in because those odds are the same.

The good players do not make this stage of the tournament by passing their 0.8EV hands

[hemightbejeremy]

@MichaelMcDermott123 The whole point is you are risking your tournament life on a 77% chance when you could possibly outplay the table playing small ball and finish higher in the tournament. In a cash game you call instantly. If you are a shorter stack you call instantly, but if you are making calls like this for your tournament life consistently in tournament play you aren't going to last very long. Laborda is very lucky the guy had a set and not the nut flush draw.

[daytona0]

@hemightbejeremy how did he get lucky being up against a set and not a flush draw?! Your a mental case. KK run hot and cold is 22% and AcJc is 25% and Ac2c is 20%. We are talking nit percentages. He needs a flush draw AND straight draw to even scrape an extra 3%. if you pass QJ here then you pass AA pre-flop. With such an edge in the hand your burning equity. It is more likely labora was never folding but was working the hand over. Big hand, always the correct decision

[hemightbejeremy]

@daytona0 I said he got lucky because a club came on the river completing the flush, not because of any percentages. I understand what you are saying. I know you are losing equity by folding, but you eliminate the risk elimination if both players are deep stacked. If you are middling in the tournament or short stacked it is an easy call. If you are 1 and 2 in chips with 100 players remaining and you can fold your way to a final table it may be a decision. That's all I'm saying.

[daytona0]

@hemightbejeremy I understand what you mean copletely dude. But I think mathematically, on a top heavy pay structure like these tournaments, you should never pass in this spot simply because it is an edge you will likely never have in the tournament at this stage. It is a massive equity burn. But I can understand that on the felt one may prefer a GTD spot in the money instead of an all in.

[jiamonx2]

@MichaelMcDermott123 some guy time banked with AA in WSOP, he took maybe 1minute or 2. this is preflop action btw.

[bb2556]

@hemightbejeremy wtf, you either are trolling or born without a brain

[AA72AA72]

@hemightbejeremy

You are a fucking idiot. Snap calling your opponent is the politest thing you can do in poker. It lets them know right away they are beat. He waited 20 seconds, that's inexcusable, and actually acted like he had a tough decision. Nice analysis on the hand. Do you worry about your opponent having a flush draw or a set on the TURN and are concerned with them filling up? What is your screen name and what site to you play on?

[hemightbejeremy]

@AA72AA72 Polite? It is the main event. I don't suggest he should fold there, I don't agree it is a snap call in all situations. On that board with that raise you should know exactly where you are. You are either up against a set or a nut flush draw. Either one sends you home 1 time for every 3 times you double up. If I am one of the bigger chip stacks and not in the money yet, yes it is a decision to risk all of my chips for a 75% type of hand. Just for reference I only play live.

[JHallqvist]

@hemightbejeremy Are u for real? fckin retard...

[RoyMunsoned]

@hemightbejeremy lol @ justifying slowrolling with the nuts.

[hemightbejeremy]

@RoyMunsoned Saying you always insta-call all in with the nuts, is laughable. Mathematically you aren't always a favorite.

For example, is it a slowroll taking time to call an all in bet with the nuts when it is 10D-9H on a flop of 8C-JS-QC and your opponent may be pushing with a hand like KC-10C with 2 streets to hit 14 outs? In that case you have the nuts and are an underdog in the hand.

[RoyMunsoned]

@hemightbejeremy my god shut up you sound retarded

[bruyeatj]

@hemightbejeremy So what?!? This is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Ask any professional poker player, if you have the nuts and someone shoves all in, you call instantly, it doesn't matter if the other person still has outs, you HAVE to call there, he clearly was not folding, so taking that long to call was completely out of line and disrespectful.

[67steinip]

@hemightbejeremy What the hell? It is a a snapcall, you just you don't tank like that pulling off your glasses like you have a big decision to make, if you are not calling with the nut straight there you should not be playing poker.

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@67steinip LOL! What decision? You have the absolute nuts! He doesn't even check his cards after the all-in!

[axolotl84]

doubt the guy even knows what a slow roll is, seemed a bit fucking slow himself

[highmarc007]

he lost... ;)

think he was 37th or something like this

[enjoiryan1]

THAT WAS NOT SLOW ROLLING!! goood play. just double checking the bored he didnt buy in for 10 dollars he bought in for 10k

[Fantasy23Legend]

@enjoiryan1 If he was double checking, he would check his hole cards too. Remember, buy in is not 10 dollars. This is a slow roll.

[rcomid]

I didn't think he was slow-rolling. He didn't realized he got the nuts

[cowboymark69]

I may of hit him for that if I was there. He slow rolled the call and even slow rolled when he showed his cards...such a dick. Slow rolling is the only thing that makes me angry at the table. Trash talking and other shit is just part of the game but this is poor sportsmanship!

[lifeislife91]

@cowboymark69 Just one thing; sometimes like in this case, you have the nuts but you could be playing for a draw. If Huynh had the same straight but with a flush draw, then laborda would be at a draw in the best case scenario. I think that's what was going through his head when he thought long and hard about it; still, there's no excuse for taking that long to call (especially since it's hold'em not omaha)..but i doubt anyone would slowroll purposely on tv

[bri1again]

@lifeislife91 cowboy you are a complete moron...simple as that.....this guy is a horrific poker player........did you even see him playing any other hands? are you saying ANYBODY could possibly think of folding the nuts on the turn...EVER????????????? YOU JUST AS DUMB AS THE SLOW ROLLER...AND FOR THE RECORD THE GUY IS A SUCH A PATHETIC PLAYER HE DIDNT EVEN SLOW ROLL ON PURPOSE...you might be just as dumb as him.....simple as that moron

[lifeislife91]

@bri1again easy to talk from behind the computer screen kid. If huyn was freerolling in a hand ( do you know what that means?), then the EV of a call is negative. I agree that the guy is a retard, but this isn't a pure slowroll. Learn the game before you open your mouth, and its obvious you're a scrawny little fuck with no balls otherwise you wouldn't talk such a big fucking talk on the internet. respect yourself

[crackz123]

@cowboymark69 except slowrolling at showing his hands and callin at the river, its just poker. poker isnt just playin ur cards.. also playin ur opponents..

[cowboymark69]

Laborda was painful to watch this whole tourney....such a donk that always got lucky.

[bassmentier]

elezra looks unhealthy

[MichaelMcDermott123]

@bassmentier He lost a bet and had to shave his head. He's fine health-wise. Commentator verifies this at :24.

[seago101]

i would have made a sizable bet on that flop

[comidaparaperro]

2:30 :D :D "HYY NENE!!! AGORA  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Laborda

[boskinator]

Laborda has replaced Negreanu as my most hated player.

[jordanoconn]

@boskinator how can you possibly hate Negreanu? one of the best poker players ever...

[boskinator]

@jordanoconn

I'll agree that Negreanu is one of the best TOURNAMENT players ever. He's a terrible cash game player, however. But that's not why I dislike him.

He's arrogant, unfunny when trying desperately to be, smug and awkward. He makes my skin crawl and my blood boil.

Check out the "Negreanu Payoff Wizard" playlist on my channel for shits n giggles.

[JDLupus]

@boskinator As much as you're entitled to that opinion, I have to largely disagree. The only video I was disappointed with was when he was needling Andrew Robl alongside Tony G. Aside from that I find his banter to be entertaining and light-hearted.

[nagga123456789]

@boskinator i agree it started when he called debb out for going south and couldnt admit he was wrong

[Romanianloop]

@boskinator Negreanu isn't really arrogant... He has one of the most lovable personalities in poker..

[fooshniggens]

@Romanianloop just no

[bri1again]

@Romanianloop your a moron, i know danny personally and he thinks he knows everything about poker...he doesnt..and he is arrogant ...............