I think I understand Guattari, he just wants to make a real expression of himself, about what he thinks and feels, at that moment (here and now) but as expected of a mind of psychoanalyst, instead of seeing the phenomenon itself, tries to interpret it (putting of his own perspective) and give an explanation from the framework of who observed (not, regrettably, from the framework of who is experienced). I'm not agree with the behaviour of Guattari, but I understand him.
is it d french way of expressing exception, whoever was he (perhaps Guattari) , it was shameful and disgraceful act on his part to do so, later in the late 60s his illusion must gone disillusion about revolution, Lacan was right in stating that " we need and desire authority to repress us, it is our urge (primordial)...........
Thanks for sharing this wonderful material. I feel it is still up to date. Nobody has been as brave enough as these people to pose their thoughts and feelings so well. No matter what "normality" is. We are not absolutely free to choose. These people were fighting to break boundaries to brake unnecessary boundaries.
What a load of pretentious wank, this fraud and others like him poisoned academia for generations, the bullshit is still seeping out of the minds of all those 80s media studies students and infecting gullible idiots everywhere, that student should have knocked his teeth in.
What is your unconcious thought? Lucan was a genuis...however, both him and Freud had huge ego's, and here is an example of how Lucan's detracted from this lecture.
Also, if you want a good case study, google Allan Lewicki, as I believe he would be the most compelling case of schizophrenia one could analyze. In my medical opinion, he requires an immediate intervention with lithium. His channel is HolySaintVomit and you can literally watch him come undone before your own eyes.
This video made me feel sick. Whether or not Lacan was an intellectual charlatan (I suspect he was but I don't know enough about him to be sure), there is no excuse for the student treating him so shamefully.
40 years ago this one student realised and claimed about the opression and the way our lives are all already planned, and they laughed at him. This days no one stands up and claims anything to anyone. We're all just living a life for a system that gives us no liberty at all, and we never even come to stand up against ourselves.
Il faut être belge pour parler aussi mal sa propre langue et exprimer un tel malaise affectif. Je déteste ce pays depuis bien longtemps. Le complexe du mal aimé...
At least the "other guy" is honest about himself. He expresses in a very odd and ineffective manner ( comparable to19th century terrorist anarchists, keeping proportions), but one can see that he is really searching for authenticity, even though he is missing tactic. You don't call for authenticity and revolution in a place and time where you know you will be ridiculed and not even listened to. Even so, thumbs up to him for acting out.
@ahor65 thanks for that. I think you're quite right... on closer inspection, on my previous comment I was too harsh with the young man... but surely, what he does is surely admirable...
@smithyPT I appreciate your reply. it looks like that what some people see admirable is the fact that the lad was somehow brave enough to stand (in a violent and clumsy style) against (charlatan) old man Lacan. but honestly, I find the whole situation just pitiful: from Lacan's non-sensical talk to the young boy's little révolution. but don't take me very seriously... surey, I am just missing the point... :)
Actually, I have to disagree with you there. The man interrupting Lacan seems to be very influenced by Guy Debord and the Situationists. What he says about the spectacle and alienation come straight from Debord's book "The society of the spectacle". Now, just to make this clear I'm not taking sides here, I'm just pointing that the young man's intervention is nothing more that what situationsts would call "Détournement".
LOL! This is what happens when idiots try to make sense of their own stupidity. Universaties are full of these retards and their like-minded professors. :D
The idiotic trait of the student's act lied exaclty on the firm fact that he, as so many others, employed the same institution and discourse he himself wanted to bring down and protest towards, therefore justifying its existence, as means whatsoever. Lacan's genious was the one who pointed out that change was possible, but through the unit that stands in the place of the master, not the discourse itself.
I've never seen such a brave student stand up to such a shameful bs philosopher. He was still admired and a celebrity in his time. Amazing, but it goes to show you THIS is why the French resistance was so small--not a single person took him seriously though he was taking grave risks. Goes to shoe that humanity is programmed for fascism, you can't use anything to deprogram the majority of us who accept authority without question. That -includes- not only political leaders bit figures like Lacan.
The student is expressing his exception to Lacan because Lacan said that 'revolution' against the 'repression of authority' and the 'boredom of consumerism' is not possible, since the masses desire (and create) authority and find their sufficiency in consumerism.
They desire (and create) authority by supporting the violence of 'discipline and normalization' (they support normalization, not freedom) and consumerism provides for the pefect deflection into 'desiring'.
@2levina , thanks for puting in the context! amazing, Lacan also added at the end: "let's hope there will be a new organization", which is ironic with respect to the ignorance of this poor student.
@mm1979dk El sarcasmo es la respuesta de lacan ante la tonteria del muchacho, quien probablemente haya pasado gran parte de su vida en alguna institucion para enfermos mentales.... Estoy contigo
I think I understand Guattari, he just wants to make a real expression of himself, about what he thinks and feels, at that moment (here and now) but as expected of a mind of psychoanalyst, instead of seeing the phenomenon itself, tries to interpret it (putting of his own perspective) and give an explanation from the framework of who observed (not, regrettably, from the framework of who is experienced). I'm not agree with the behaviour of Guattari, but I understand him.
diamothofficial 7 hours ago
The really shameful and disgraceful thing to do would have been to do nothing.
EdinSumar 3 days ago
is that really guattari?
PitchBlackIllusion 6 days ago
is it d french way of expressing exception, whoever was he (perhaps Guattari) , it was shameful and disgraceful act on his part to do so, later in the late 60s his illusion must gone disillusion about revolution, Lacan was right in stating that " we need and desire authority to repress us, it is our urge (primordial)...........
vedarabic 2 months ago
Guattari is my idol, lol
burningmindsvideos 2 months ago
Thanks for sharing this wonderful material. I feel it is still up to date. Nobody has been as brave enough as these people to pose their thoughts and feelings so well. No matter what "normality" is. We are not absolutely free to choose. These people were fighting to break boundaries to brake unnecessary boundaries.
Lindoapodo 3 months ago
What a load of pretentious wank, this fraud and others like him poisoned academia for generations, the bullshit is still seeping out of the minds of all those 80s media studies students and infecting gullible idiots everywhere, that student should have knocked his teeth in.
UnkleFessta 3 months ago
What is your unconcious thought? Lucan was a genuis...however, both him and Freud had huge ego's, and here is an example of how Lucan's detracted from this lecture.
profb44 3 months ago
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Also, if you want a good case study, google Allan Lewicki, as I believe he would be the most compelling case of schizophrenia one could analyze. In my medical opinion, he requires an immediate intervention with lithium. His channel is HolySaintVomit and you can literally watch him come undone before your own eyes.
profb44 3 months ago
Lacan é católico.
joao2112able 4 months ago
This video made me feel sick. Whether or not Lacan was an intellectual charlatan (I suspect he was but I don't know enough about him to be sure), there is no excuse for the student treating him so shamefully.
nothingnesswithouten 4 months ago
@nothingnesswithouten you're so bourgeois
asfesesease 4 months ago
he was a great man!
pontello3 4 months ago
40 years ago this one student realised and claimed about the opression and the way our lives are all already planned, and they laughed at him. This days no one stands up and claims anything to anyone. We're all just living a life for a system that gives us no liberty at all, and we never even come to stand up against ourselves.
limpbiz 6 months ago
God damn this guy speaks sooo slowly.
SRNF 6 months ago
C'est du théatre?
ffoisxav 7 months ago
Il faut être belge pour parler aussi mal sa propre langue et exprimer un tel malaise affectif. Je déteste ce pays depuis bien longtemps. Le complexe du mal aimé...
axilea67 7 months ago in playlist Psychoanalysis
i wish i had a teacher like this
a french who spoke like an italian ,yet think like no one
y34r 7 months ago
What Lacan's reply should have been: "Shut up, you dirty hippy!!"
kynykos 7 months ago
Who is the asshole who translated this? he fucked up everything?!
AssemHendawi 7 months ago
"some university" - Leuven, Belgium!
melawel 7 months ago
The World is fucked.
festyosemtex 8 months ago in playlist The world is fucked
its the idiot that intervened ideas that have destroyed the world now wanker post modernist
timetochilli 11 months ago
inb4 DONT TAZE ME BRO!!!
Neurotrash1982 1 year ago 2
I don't know really who is more confused, cult leader Lacan or the the lad with his little ideas of what is the revolution...
vicanflo 1 year ago
@vicanflo
At least the "other guy" is honest about himself. He expresses in a very odd and ineffective manner ( comparable to19th century terrorist anarchists, keeping proportions), but one can see that he is really searching for authenticity, even though he is missing tactic. You don't call for authenticity and revolution in a place and time where you know you will be ridiculed and not even listened to. Even so, thumbs up to him for acting out.
Thanks to K2nsl3r for uploading this.
ahor65 11 months ago 2
@ahor65 thanks for that. I think you're quite right... on closer inspection, on my previous comment I was too harsh with the young man... but surely, what he does is surely admirable...
vicanflo 11 months ago
@vicanflo What's admirable about a younger, unhinged man threatening an older man? This isn't about critical theory, it's about manners and civility.
smithyPT 10 months ago
@smithyPT I appreciate your reply. it looks like that what some people see admirable is the fact that the lad was somehow brave enough to stand (in a violent and clumsy style) against (charlatan) old man Lacan. but honestly, I find the whole situation just pitiful: from Lacan's non-sensical talk to the young boy's little révolution. but don't take me very seriously... surey, I am just missing the point... :)
vicanflo 10 months ago
@ahor65
Actually, I have to disagree with you there. The man interrupting Lacan seems to be very influenced by Guy Debord and the Situationists. What he says about the spectacle and alienation come straight from Debord's book "The society of the spectacle". Now, just to make this clear I'm not taking sides here, I'm just pointing that the young man's intervention is nothing more that what situationsts would call "Détournement".
ap4777 11 months ago
LOL! This is what happens when idiots try to make sense of their own stupidity. Universaties are full of these retards and their like-minded professors. :D
jaska05 1 year ago
The idiotic trait of the student's act lied exaclty on the firm fact that he, as so many others, employed the same institution and discourse he himself wanted to bring down and protest towards, therefore justifying its existence, as means whatsoever. Lacan's genious was the one who pointed out that change was possible, but through the unit that stands in the place of the master, not the discourse itself.
ioannisgr 1 year ago
I've never seen such a brave student stand up to such a shameful bs philosopher. He was still admired and a celebrity in his time. Amazing, but it goes to show you THIS is why the French resistance was so small--not a single person took him seriously though he was taking grave risks. Goes to shoe that humanity is programmed for fascism, you can't use anything to deprogram the majority of us who accept authority without question. That -includes- not only political leaders bit figures like Lacan.
PtAltmVansanTarr 1 year ago
@PtAltmVansanTarr no wonder that the 68 organization and there ilk, have created the late capitalist system. i stand with lacan
mistarcraw 1 year ago
wow that was surprisingly epic
Dodger718 1 year ago
where can I find the rest of the docu with english subtiltes?
blueingreentrain 1 year ago
Hey, it's Felix Guattari!
DrMVUA 1 year ago 20
@DrMVUA really or are you making a joke? in any case, he does look quite like him
kk789789789 1 year ago
@kk789789789 Just a joke!
DrMVUA 1 year ago
the message of this: people can be full of shit.
festyosemtex 1 year ago
The student is expressing his exception to Lacan because Lacan said that 'revolution' against the 'repression of authority' and the 'boredom of consumerism' is not possible, since the masses desire (and create) authority and find their sufficiency in consumerism.
They desire (and create) authority by supporting the violence of 'discipline and normalization' (they support normalization, not freedom) and consumerism provides for the pefect deflection into 'desiring'.
2levina 1 year ago 24
@2levina , thanks for puting in the context! amazing, Lacan also added at the end: "let's hope there will be a new organization", which is ironic with respect to the ignorance of this poor student.
mm1979dk 1 year ago
@mm1979dk El sarcasmo es la respuesta de lacan ante la tonteria del muchacho, quien probablemente haya pasado gran parte de su vida en alguna institucion para enfermos mentales.... Estoy contigo
martinezhuert 1 year ago
@2levina lacan is right. the fissures where we should most press are in the Third World, and not the First
mistarcraw 1 year ago
Is he drunk or on drugs.
alexgaudino2 1 year ago
@alexgaudino2 Lacan or the great revolutionary (not Lacan)?
Neurotrash1982 1 year ago
this is very very very lame bullshit.
israelidude26 1 year ago
@israelidude26
its ok, most people cant process or even touch on Lacanian philosophy anyway...
thecloudswillattack 1 year ago
Haha, I found it on youtube right now!
Cheers! :)
FleshMob 1 year ago 3
What is the name of this documentary?
I like this material!
FleshMob 1 year ago
@FleshMob It's called "Jacques Lacan Parle", or "Jacques Lacan Speaks" some time from the early 1970's.
K2nsl3r 1 year ago