Re: I am not your enemy

[wojtek0000]

you mumble jumble in a seemingly elevated language but your ideas are incoherent and i personally think you're stoned. you make no sense.

[blackacidlizzard]

It is true that I do not connect all the dots, and perhaps it would be helpful to have more background on the subject matter. That however, would take much more than ten minutes. If you can not follow a specific chain of thought, I would be more than happy to make the unstated explicit.

[PolarBeamz]

Nice vid! Good going! :)

[roddack]

"Force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authority is derived. Naked force has resolved more issues throughout history than any other factor, and the contrary opinion that violence never solves anything, is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always pay."

-Robert A. Heinlein

[blackacidlizzard]

Indeed.

[junior00bacon00chee]

great vid.

the system is doomed from the beginning. there is no such thing as state charity or compassion....

[chris3325]

I think you might have some sort of projection at work here. If you think you are an idiot for not seeing the real world applications then fine. I never said that. Lots of people deal in philosophy without realizing the real world realities of their ideas. Communism doesnt work in the real world , but i dont think marx was wrong. Dont put words in my mouth.

[MachineLegion]

Um, Marx's was wrong even in theory.

[blackacidlizzard]

"Even" in theory?

Any theory which is said to relate to reality can not be "right in theory" and "wrong in practice."

[MachineLegion]

I see your point.

[blackacidlizzard]

So you don't consider people who come up with proscriptions to be carried out in real life while never examining the real life effects of those proscriptions to be either stupid or corrupt?

Marx put forward ideas about what to do in the real world. If following his ideas fails to bring about the results he claims, he is wrong.

[spinalfluidontap]

Interesting point. A perfectly good idea can be fucked up perfectly by stupidity. I try never to argue semantics. I just don't have the patients.

[gunsandbullhorns]

I can say with utmost certainty that Marx was wrong IN THEORY. I'd recommend looking-up "Labour Theory of Value" and "Zero-sum Fallacy". I think you will agree that Marx was wrong in theory. ;D

[wojtek0000]

Marx was wrong in theory? You are thinking on latitude instead of longitude my friend. It is not a question of right or wrong. It was an idea. An idea is not an answer to a question. It is a way to live differently. Whether it is accepted or rejected depends on people. And there is more than 1 person deciding, so how can it be right or wrong?

[blackacidlizzard]

If a theory claims to accurately describe reality and does not, it is wrong. Often "rightness" or "wrongness" is a matter of degree, as many things can be subsumed in a single theory. Marx's theories had quite alot wrong with them.

Reality not being a democracy, what people believe has no bearing on a theory unless the theory is specifically about what people believe.

[PragmaticHeathen]

Sure socialism sucks, so does capitalism. Neither are free markets. The state stifles the ability of individuals and small groups to participate in and use the free market. Great video!

[tiecuando]

Good video, man. You on stickam right now?

[ReIgNoFrAdNeSs]

I love (I'm being sarcastic) when people attempt to to draw a dichotomy between cooperation and competition. In order to prevent competition, force is necessary. How exactly does forcefully preventing people from competing qualify as cooperation? Since when is "putting a gun to someone's head" (literally *and* figuratively speaking) an act of "cooperation"?

[D4Shawn]

Yeah Chris... how ya gonna pay off the national debt dude?

[D4Shawn]

I sense some pwnage comin' on.

[Mementomori690069]

Great video

[elliotcheely]

=^_^=

[MachineLegion]

Great video, I get tired if people acting like cooperation and volunteering is unheard of. 5/5.

[ZamatoElite]

Solid video.