HNIC - 1984 Cup Win Part 1

[SenhordoBonfim]

Lots of praise for the officiating in this series. You sure don't hear that anymore.

[HWY60Juan]

One of the greatest memories of my life! I shared a single seasons ticket with my mother & it was her turn to go to the game, so I had an arrangement with an usher, slipping him 20 bucks at the door! My buddy later showed me his video of the game & they had the camera on myself, standing alone during the anthem. I wish I had a copy of that for evidence. During the last minute of the game, I managed to slip down the aisle, beside the Oiler bench, getting some photos... WHAT A SPECIAL DAY!

[landrykkb]

It was even rare for officials to be even praised in 1984,like the late,great Danny Gallivan did here.I`m impressed!

[bearpaw72]

Thanks for posting this. I live in Vancouver, where the Canucks SHOULD have lost in four straight against the Bruins this year. This Oilers series is one of my fondest memories watching NHL hockey ever (another was the Nord-Avs of '96). I watched this video because the embarassing stats the Casucks posted in the 2011 finals only added to the long list of franchise mediocrity and (exacerbated by the riots) affected my fondness for the game.

This is all I have left. Thanks for posting.

[bababooiey]

27 years ago today

[landrykkb]

When was the last time fans ran out on the ice or on the court in the NBA to celebrate their team's championship win?

[DropsOfOil]

@landrykkb I was thinking the exact same thing watching the celebrations. I wasn't quite born when this happened (born in 86) but I think if fans tried to do that now (especially before the game is even over) there would be a swarm of riot police there, beating the fans off the ice.

[radster72]

there are no winning celebrations like this anymore. Messier and his tears these boys were awesome. Now a days guys go play for contenders just to win a cup so they don't get the same thrill these guys did. I miss these days of hockey.

[jpwjr1199]

@radster72 I agree with you up to a point - I think your conclusion is incorrect, though. I think the celebrations are so damned choreographed now that they become stiff. Ziegler used to just go on the ice and present the trophy. Gary Bettman is so pompous and shows little respect for the game, when he takes a microphone and spews on and on about the awards and the teams. It ruins the experience, really.

[jessc1979]

@jpwjr1199 I agree. I hope they don't do what the NFL and NBA do where they get a commentator of all things (like Terry Bradshaw) go on the field/court and actually interview the captain/owner right there! Sometimes, it's just rude like when they interviewed Phil Jackson in 1998 asking him if he will come back. Geez, just let them celebrate...

The NHL is not sooo bad... but I see them doing interviews like that after reg/playoff games with the 1st star.

[angusandleigh]

That fan at 0:29 was one lucky guy!

[surfer53]

Is that goal song "Still the One"? They used great tunes in the 80s.

[DungeonMastersLair]

What a great beginning to one of the greatest dynasties in hockey. The cups and records speak for themselves.

[ThePresident45]

What a team and what a year the oilers had that year. Gretzky 87 goals 118 assists 205 points, Kurri 52 goals, Anderson 54 goals, Coffey 126 points, just an unreal team1

[Scoclamor]

@ThePresident45 After 51 games, Gretzky's stats: 61 goals, 91 assists!

[simshine1]

these were the days, like MJ thriller

[Tubewings]

You know what I don't get? The Oilers had the best record in the NHL that year, yet the Islanders had home-ice advantage throughout the finals. I don't get it at all! Could someone explain this to me, please?

[jazzguitar2010]

@Tubewings The Islanders got screwed because of the scheduling that year. Yes, they had home-ice, but the first 2 games were in NY, then THREE games in Edmonton, and 2 back in NY (had the Isles pushed the series that far). Mike Bossy has said in his book that had game 5 been in NY, the Isles may have had a chance to stay in the series. But instead, the Oilers got 3 games on home ice to the Isles 2, and won it in 5.

[howlincoyote2k1]

@jazzguitar2010 Don't think it would have made much of a difference. The Islanders, IIRC, were struggling with injury problems, and the Oilers just weren't going to be stopped.

The Edmonton Oilers went through the whole year gunning for these guys. They got their pound of flesh and more.

[jazzguitar2010]

@howlincoyote2k1 Had Fuhr not stood on his head in game 1, the Isles may have put some doubt in the Oilers like they did in '83. The Isles were very intimidating, but once the Oilers believed they could win, it was all over. The Isles too much have been exhausted. Anyhow, had it not been for that missed cup that year, the Oilers might be regarded as a dynasty too, and belong to the same club as the Habs and Isles (dynasty elite club).

[Scoclamor]

@Tubewings I believe the rule was this. They had a choice, because it was 2-3-2, in the finals (It was this again next year and again in 1994). Anyways, the Oilers got to choose (home or away to start the finals) what they wanted because of their better regular season record.

[Scoclamor]

You couldn't hold the Oilers back any longer...they were just too powerfull. 19-6 outscored the Islanders in the last three games. And they pitched a shutout in the first game! This is when hockey was HOCKEY!

[broadstreet2]

This is destiny, the Cup finds its way to the greatest player in history

[AxeManWolf25]

Gretzky = True Hockey Legend

Crosby = Overrated (with the exception of his Gold medal goal at the 2010 Olympics... that was epic. other than that... overrated)

[shivakrishnarama]

Ah shadup you don't know jack about hockey most of the all-star players of today's game are as skilled as gretzky was

[bnvcharger07]

i agree gretzky is a living legend but i also think crosby is just unreal as well this guy has some serious heart,skill,balance,speed,lead­er,unreal hockey talent,gad he is canadian,he might win 3 or 4 cups before he,s done.wayne is my favorite of all time,then yzerman,sakic, crosby is right there with them

[azbaldy5]

'84 Oliers, maybe the best team in nhl history.

[TonyT074]

broke my godamn heart that night

[Jiltedin2007]

@TonyT074

Mine too! I was so pulling for the Islanders to win the Stanley Cup!

[ECWJoe]

Although the Oilers had a great dynasty run after the Islanders run, I will always have that opinion that the NHL made sure that the Isles would not match the Canadiens record of 5 Stanley Cups in a row. Remember, the 1984 Finals were changed from a 2-2-1-1-1 home game format to a 2-3-2 format. The Islanders, if they were able to have Game 5 at home under the old format, based on their history of coming from behind to win a series still might have been able to pull that series out.

[boskey10]

I was reading peter pocklington new book ïde Trade him again" he was at maple leafs game in 1979 and garunteed to a broadcaster that the oilers would win the cup in 5 years,and look and behold.

[MGoffer]

I was maybe a year old when this happened.I always heard of this (oilers over islanders in '84)and wanted to see it so thanks for uploading. I live 30 minutes from pittsburgh but i was raised a red wings fan. this "passing of the torch" was done with passion and class. you just dont see that anymore these days. this past year, sidney crosby didnt shake nic lidstroms hand afterwords,so ive lost all respect for crosby and his team. thats how bad its gotten.

[landrykkb]

This Oilers first of 5 Stanley Cup victories couldn't have been scripted any better!I mean,the Islander dynasty passing the torch to the new dynasty.Keep in mind that the Isles were the only other team besides Montreal to win 4 consecutive Stanley Cups.

[sportsandbeer]

Fuck i wish i grew up at this time.

[bearpaw72]

@sportsandbeer

To paraphrase you, "Fuck i wish i grew up IN EDMONTON at this time".

[jmwingding]

awesome, classic footage. I had never seen this before. I am an Islanders fan but i recognize greatness, and the significance of this Cup win: the birth of a dynasty. they don't make teams like the old oilers or islanders anymore... and 59yendor is right. it's amazing to see the oilers celebrate winning the Cup. They're like kids at a carnival.

[ElmerFudd16]

Ah, the NHL's glory days. Isles suck now, but that can't take away what they did. Same for the Oil.

[ghostsintheforum]

i like the way they have the celebration ceremonies now. every player gets to skate with the cup solo

[59yendor]

nowadays, I don't see the stanley cup winners with this kind heart! I mean when receiving the stanley cup! these oilers just loved the stanley cup! they are all just out for the paycheck now! noone is to blame, its just how it is!

[canuckster24]

Not an Oilers fan, but one of the things I like about this moment is how the Islander players don't seem particularly depressed. It seemed more like a passing of the torch, they knew this was the next dynasty after them.

[landrykkb]

@canuckster24 The Islanders had only reached the final four once since 1984,which should serve as a reminder what a sad sack organization they had eventually became.Of course,thety still had a majority of their players from their dynasty era up until about 1987,when Mike Bossy & Denis Potvin retired.

[leadimprov]

They took the Cup away from the powerhouse Isles. They deserved it.

[broadstreet2]

The inevitable day when the Cup found its way into the hands of the greatest hockey player in history. It was destined to be Gretzky's forever, but sadly things didn't turn out to be.

[mrgwbarackobushbimbo]

One of the greatest stanley cup victiories that tops all the dynasties is the 1994 New York Rangers. I know Rangers never had a dynasty and it took them 54 years to win a Stanley Cup. That's what made them special. Former Oilers from their dynasty years played for the 1994 New York Rangers. Oilers fans you can't knock the 1994 Rangers. Sometimes I call them the New York Oilers:)

[broadstreet2]

Yeah, that was a good lineup; 'twas ridiculous how many ex-Oilers they had. Although they lacked the main Oiler, Gretz.

And honestly, I feel the Rangers' victory was amongst the most controversial; it sparked one of the worst riots in the Canadian west.

[jayhawk88z]

the Oilers bigist liability was owner

[moogleff10]

thers not a team that comes even close to the oilers of the 80's, dumbass.

yr probably some little 16 year old little kid who wasnt even born in the 80's let alone be able to watch hockey in the 90's

[moogleff10]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh­hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh­hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh­hhhhhhhh

[mrceebees14]

Isles got fucked out of this cup.

[ACParker13]

nope

[45skyfire]

The Oilers were an excellent team...and it was great for Canadian sports teams.period....sadly we havent had anything since...only a few canadian teams making it to the final but coming up short....i cheer for any canadian team EXCEPT for the Leafs......one day soon there will be a canadian Stanley Cup Champ....kinda hope for the Canucks

[mrceebees14]

Oilers + League vs New York Islanders.

[HisMajestyBobbyOrr]

mrceebees14: Hey asshole, go get your bag of shit food at McDonalds. Youre worth it. You clearly have no clue about hockey from those days. You must be a senior citizen in a wheelchair getting 3 welfare checks a month. Fuck you retard. I OWN YOUR CHINK ASS.

[mrceebees14]

How many accounts have you lost now for being a racist? I am white you retard, I am not Chinese and I am sure there are Chinese and or black Canadiens fans in the world.

Did you re-up your script for meds? I thought you Canadians had univeral health care. Let me guess, the person at the drug store is Chinese and you weren't going to buy from them. Or maybe a black person touched the handle on the door and you wouldn't enter.

Go check yourself into detox you blowhard fucking lunatic.

[oaklandfan2k8]

Everytime the Oilers win or Scored a Goal they played The Empire Strikes Back by Meco.

[Scoclamor]

@oaklandfan2k8 Great song!

[Cuteguyfl]

They were the best team in '86 but didn't win that year.

[SFFOOL76]

93' Penguins, 96' RedWings are two teams of the same calibur as the 86' Oilers.

I am sure there are many more teams that could be listed.

[ACParker13]

haha not even close

[SFFOOL76]

Prove me wrong ACParke13

For those years those 3 teams were way superior than every team those particular years.

Haha not even close, that's not a good statement. Im sure you know you're hockey , break it down please.

[Cuteguyfl]

Is this the last time you'll see the Islanders in the finals?

[ckendall67]

Today is is May 19th, 2009; 25 years ago today...May 19th, 1984, the birth of the Edmonton Oilers Dynasty:-)

[ckendall67]

BTW, the NHL today does NOT suck! More skill than ever, it's still the most physical game of the 4 major pro sports, & why shouldn't EVERY team have a shot at winning the Stanley Cup? BTW, if Detroit wins the Stanley Cup again this year, it will be their 5th in 12 years. As good as a dynasty gets for me:-)

[kng604]

I remember this like yesterday, especially the part where Andy Moog is in the dressing room by himself. I didn't understand why he wasn't celebrating with his team, and I felt so sad for him.

[prkbrooks10]

Someone help.....I keep trying to look up "Vancouver Canucks" and "Stanley Cup Champions" all over Youtube and nothing!! They have been around longer than Edmonton.....maybe Vancouver fans could help?

[Arkethot]

I think the most awesome goaltender ever Roberto Luongo can help you, he's won plenty of those.

[kmlh]

Fail. Yeah Luongo has won so much with the Islanders and Panthers.

[Arkethot]

That was sarcasm.

[kmlh]

Sarcasm on Internet. Not easily detectable.

[SFFOOL76]

Agreed.

[leafyutube]

Hahaha! At 0:28 Gretzky is hugging a lunatic fan.

[PocketHercules99]

OOOO MY THE STANLEY CUP !!!! so beautiful

I wish i was more than a fetus in these days, just look at the jubilation in edmonton hoisting cups with the best team ever

A true Dynasty , greatest in all of sports in a particular era

[discoprescription]

the 80s was the best era it was an exciting time miss those days

[PierreLampron]

word

[ponnapal]

UrbanRail, totally correct. People get wrapped up with the dynasty they grew up with or followed closely. I grew to like the Oilers more as the years passed- especially their gritty win in 1990.

But the numbers are clear. The Montreal 76-79 dynasty is the greatest in the modern era. Their domination was complete. Regular season and playoffs.

For me the Islanders are special not because they were the most talented- but because they did incredible things with the talent they had.

[AK47Music]

When I started getting into hockey back in 1976 (as a life-long Kings fan), there was one team everyone feared, and that was the Montreal Canadiens (Les Habitants de Montreal).

They were pretty much the dynasty of dynasties, and with talent from top-to-bottom like Steve Shutt, Guy Lafleur, Jacques Lemaire, Larry Robinson, Michel "Bunny" Larocque (R.I.P.), Ken Dryden, Bob Gainey, and many more, THEY set the standard for which all other dynasties in pro sports were to be measured againast.

[UrbanRail]

I think fans are biased when it comes to who is the greatest Dynasty. There is no question, and I wont dispute this, the Canadiens from the 1976 to 1979 where the best.

The Islanders were incredible in the playoffs.

And the Oilers, for all their scoring and records were great. Had salaries not been a problem starting late 80s, the Oilers would have been able to kept all of their great players and won more cups.

For me growing up in Edmonton in the 80s, they have place in my heart.

[mushmouth4life]

I dunno if they would have won more cups but Mario v. Gretzky would have been an epic finals.

[landrykkb]

Although I hated the Oilers at the time,I realize now how sweet it was that they managed to win that 1990 Cup without Wayne Gretzky!The Great one would only appear in 1 Stanley Cup Final in L.A. after he got traded from Edmonton!

[go4john]

@UrbanRail I lived there from 79-86, I completely agree with your comments.  Great times.

[Scoclamor]

@UrbanRail What about the Habs 56-60. That was pretty good too!

[surfer53]

@UrbanRail Trying to be competitive in a small market ain't easy. Even now, with all things being equal (a stupid idea), you've got a very short window to stink the joint out, collect high draft picks and develop them fast enough to win a championship before all of them are off their entry level deals. The Canucks will be a force for the next 2-3 years and in the next 3-5, the Oilers, if Tambellini doesn't screw things up, will be up next to make a run.

[jjpeterson1]

@UrbanRail well said I agree with all your points. the Canadiens of the late 70s were legendary...but the Oilers had Gretzky, and that was once in a lifetime.

[bearpaw72]

@UrbanRail

I lived in Vancouver my whole life, and even I agree with you on this.

The Oilers may have sucked this year (HA-HA), but who cares? I have better memories watching the Oilers win the cup (especially this one) than I have watching the Canucks lose the only seven-game series that was ever decided in four games.

[SenhordoBonfim]

@bearpaw72 I never heard it put that way, but you're right.

[ponnapal]

UrbanRail, I agree 100%. I loved watching hockey in those days. There was a chance that any team through smart draft choices, coaching , grit and talent could build a dynasty.

NY Islanders and Oilers were two great examples. One of the reasons I love the Islanders so much is that they built their team with hard work and dedication. They sustained it with grit.

Now, it's all about marketing and hype. The players now are just marketable entities. They have no loyaly to the team and vice-versa.

[UrbanRail]

Regardless who was the greatest dynasty. (I grew up in Edmonton during that time, in my opinion the oilers were the best).

The NHL now just sucks. Bettman has totally screwed the NHL. The teams are just too even. Scoring is way down. The shootout is a joke. You will never ever see any more dynasties like Montreal, New York or Edmonton. All had great teams for their eras.

[willyupshaw]

Ironic for an Edmonton Oilers fan to say that the NHL sucks on the eve of the Penguins having one of the most exciting Stanely Cup runs in history and one reminiscient of the '84 Oilers.

A little hockey with your nostelgia?

[ponnapal]

My point was that Islanders were comparable to or better than the Oilers. I think the numbers support that. There's a blind love for the Oilers that seems to make their fans ignore all other dynasties.

78-79 Habs are definetely noteworthy. My view is that 50's Habs were better. I would say Habs 50's number 1 , 76-79 Habs number 2 , Islanders number 3 and Oilers number 4.

Of these, I think Islanders , 76-79 Habs are underrated because people didnt watch much hockey in those days.

[jay92388]

Anyone ever notice that Gretzky never lets go of the cup? Most captains pass it around haha

[ponnapal]

My web connection dropped for the last message but here's the nutshell. 1980- 405 point opposition for Isles.3 of top 4 teams 1981- 306 points 1982- 326 points 1983- 390 points 1st 2nd place teams Oilers: 1984- 347 points 1985- 366 points 1987- 336 points 1988 - 369 points. So it's the Oilers that never faced tough competition all the way through the playoffs. They faced so many mediocre teams that they came healthy to the finals. That's a bid deal in the NHL.

[ponnapal]

The Oiler fans and others constantly harp on the "fact" that the Islanders had an easy road to the cup for some years. That's not true.

1980- Boston, Buffalo, LA, Philadelphia ( 3 of top 4 teams) total points 405

1981- Toronto, Edmonton (much better than on paper), NYR , Vancover total points 306

1982- Pittsburgh, NYR, Quebec , Vancouver Total

[landrykkb]

I believe they played L.A. in the first round during their '80 run and it was Minnesota they beat in the '81 Finals for the Cup.

[go4john]

My dad took me. I was there May 19th 1984.

[irishones]

You know what???...lets just give ALL dynasty's credit that they deserve...geeze...waterd sown???...The Oilk had to go through Calgary...FIGHT through FOUR rounds to win the cup....Montreal???...had to get through only TWO....

[landrykkb]

Exactly,irishones!It's tough enough nowadays just to win the Cup once,let alone back-to-back!

[drushnock11]

thats awesome that gretzky was cool with that guy on the ice and even celebrated with him. If that happened at this years finals that dude would have been swarmed by cops. man times have changed.

[jay92388]

I believe it was his sibling.

[leafyutube]

Both the Oilers and Islanders had great dynasty teams. By 1984, the Isles started to age and show cracks in their game, while the Oilers were a powerhouse on the rise. I would love to have seen both teams clash while in their prime.

[isle05]

The 84' Oilers had no chance against a healthy NY ISLANDERS team....we shut the oilers down in 83

[dylansinkevich]

Watching this sends a chill up my spine....This year is their year! Go Oilers!!

[DKJSNA]

The Islanders would have have won their fifth straight cup if they hadn't been so decimated by injury. The Islanders won all three games against the oilers in the 1983-84 regular season. The 2-3-2 format was a conspiracy by the NHL. They were against the isles too.

[ponnapal]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the deck was stacked against the Islanders. The fluke Game 1 win and then that disgraceful 3 in a row at home for Edmonton is a black mark on the league.

Anyone who ever played hockey knows you get better medical help when you are at home rather than when you are away. Under the standard 2-2-1-1-1 format, the Isles would have gone home to recup and get some help for their numerous injuries.

[CCampLI]

And to all the Ranger fans who think just because Messier played for the Rag$ and won one measly cup, your asses were sent home WEEKS ago prior to the above match.

The fucking Rangers didn't even defend their title in 1995, which only proves how flash in the pan that 1994 team was.

Fuck, half of the team were Oilers lol

[CCampLI]

The league fucked the Islanders out of this cup with that last minute 2-3-2 bullshit format.

Edmonton sucks

[dzanier]

Aw Come on!! The league loved the Islanders.  Just like they loved the Candians before them. And they HATED the Flers before that. You and your conspiracy theory friends are so wrong it's incredible. Everyone, the league especially, respected and loved the Islanders. The Islanders of that time would be the first to tell you that.

[DavidEmailman]

Way to go Oilers!!! Perhaps the best dynasty in hockey to this day.

[Infofan]

There are only two teams that can vie for Greatest Hockey Dynasty of All Time. One is the 1984-90 Edmonton Oilers, the other is the 1953-60 Montreal Canadiens. It wasn't only (only?) that these two teams won so many Cups and dominated the game. They invented new ways to win that made all other teams adapt to them. The NHL even made rules to try and even the playing field for their opponents!

There are excellent reasons to choose either one as your favourite.

[CCampLI]

Greatest two?

Try 19 straight playoff series wins.

Try winning 4 in a row.....WITHOUT a break, like the Oilers did.

The Habs won 5 cups in the 1950's, and how many rounds did they have to play to get it done? 2 rounds, the Isles 4. How many regular sesaon games did they have to play? 20 LESS than the Islanders did in their dynasty.

The Isles are the greatest dynasty ever, stats don't lie.

Bow down bitch.

[Infofan]

CCampLI, while I admire the New York Islanders, they were not as innovative as the Habs or the Oilers. Craftsmen, yes. Artists that changed the game, no.

The 1980-83 Islanders were a great team. They deserve better fans than social incompetents like you. If you had resisted the urge to vomit out your last sentence, I might have respected you. But you are merely an over-sensitive, clumsy buffoon. I laugh at your attempts to be in 'control'.

Bow down, clown.

[CCampLI]

Innovated??

This has nothing to do with innovation, this has to do with accomplishment on a broad scale. Innovation is an opinion, the stats are forever.

The Isles were craftsman? You obviously missed the Isles dynasty era, or were not paying attention. The Isles were masters at copying other team's style's, and then beating you with it.

Incompetants is blis on tap for you.

[Infofan]

Great teams win by consistent generation of more scoring chances than they allow. This includes the Islanders, as well as all winning teams. As well as this,The Canadiens and Oilers introduced ways to win that no one else could match, forcing the NHL itself to try and contain them. Therefore, this has everything to do with innovation. Statistics can be interpreted many different ways. The Islander dynasty was great, but it didn't change the game. Deal with it...and learn how to spell, too.

[jay92388]

I think you forgot that the Habs won four cups in a row prior to the Islanders, and is actually considered the strongest dynasty ever by many. In 1977, they had 8 losses in an 80 game schedule. Only lost 10 games in the four playoffs, compared to 18 losses in the four playoffs of the Islanders. So in reality, I think the Montreal Canadiens of 1976-1979 was the greatest dynasty of all-time, the habs were a dynasty in general from 56-79, in that span, 24 seasons, 14 cups, bown down bitch!

[jay92388]

*15 out of 24

[ponnapal]

There's no way the 84-90 Oilers belong in the same class as the 53-60 Canadiens. That's a joke.

The Oilers played in a watered down conference that gave them 3 free passes in the first 3 rounds for the most part.After a while Calgary gave them tough competition, but that's just one round.

The 53-60 Canadiens were unmatched. The greatest dynasty of all time. They played completely riddled with injuries and still won multiple cups , sometimes against superior teams.

[Infofan]

Lucky or not, balanced or not, the Oilers were so good that other teams began to copy their offensive style. If a team spawns imitators, that's a sign of tremendous influence; if they are successful, that is a sign of greatness.

The comparison with the greatest Canadiens dynasty is far from a joke.

I'm not an Oilers fan or a Canadiens fan, by the way.

[johnymo96]

come on!..alot easier to develop a dynasty in a 6 team leauge then a 21 team leauge..therefore making the Edmonton Oiler's dynasty by far more impressive

[landrykkb]

@ponnapal Although the Habs in that 53-60 era didn't play as many regular season games and had only 5 other teams as competition,they were definitely a product of it and played with every which injury under the sun,like you said.What the hell would you have called an endorsement deal then?Wayne Gretzky made more offf of them alone than the Habs likely did combined then.