heyyy you,, you, you , listen to me carefully now, when the atoms, smash eachothers, it makes that cosmic under the ground, l mean it make A LIGHT, with that light, you are going to be creater, you are going to be destroyer, and you are going to be maker, nowww question is this, if you would be the GOD,would you give that chance to human, MESSIAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Fellow brothers and sisters, I am here to warn you about the drastic impacts that CERN will have on the future. They are secretly developing a time machine and with such power shall rule the world. The reason I know all of this is because I am from the year 2036. We must not let this happen. Sincerely, John Titor. El Psy Congroo...
Please take the time to read Stardrive on my website. You cannot debunk Stardrive, even if you had all the help from this retarded institute you're defending right now.
Really, take your time and discover how mainstream science stacks error on error on error, making quantum-mechanics seem way more complicated than it really is.
Did you arrive at that conclusion from your armchair? Are you familiar with the equations of theoretical physics regarding inflationary cosmology or particle-mass? I think that you're the one that's clueless.
@Paddyllfixit 30 years obsession, a 150 IQ on a bad day. Read STARDRIVE if you like, and you will see gravity is an imbalance between push & pull. A simple interaction between the aether and the nucleons.
STARDRIVE is the only Unified Theory that explains EVERYTHING, and does this using only Newtonian mechanics.
Because mainstream science is clueless about gravity, the hold a imaginary particle (Higgs) responsible. That's equal to holding God responsible for things we cannot explain.
....for someone who claims "30years obsession and 150 IQ on a bad day(lol)" u sound muddled and confused. For a start, classical Newtonian mechanics is wholly inadequate in describing gravity as it doesn't account for energy or pressure, ie negative pressure which translates as repulsive "negative" gravity. And I gather that you don't believe that graviton bosons exist either? Or the electroweak Higgs field, or the Higgs field of grand unified theories, or the inflaton Higgs field?
@Paddyllfixit Stardrive says gravity is push-pull. I've uploaded SRD38 which explains the expansion of our universe using Newtonian mechanics (pressure & energy!). I do believe in gravitons; the aether is made out of gravitons. They are the same as electrons, but have a moderate speed (therefore we don't detect them).
Fields are no more than mechanical interactions between gravitons and nucleons; Gamma radiation is a deviation in the spin of gravitons themselves.
God particle, what is it?, It's all around you and you cannot see it, but you can feel it when it's it's upset?? Feel the friction baby or you will collapse!!!!! LOL!
What gives mass to the Higgs boson if it is ever found? And what gives mass to that, wich gives mass to the Higgs boson and what gives mass to it, and...
It is really like a God then does it? It causes its own existence? Quantum mechanics is getting uncomfortably close to religion for most square scientists I am feeling.
Well structured... Nice answer. Thank you for nothing...
There is a more refined presentation with "Higgs Update Dec 13, 2011 (Part 2)" if you bother to search for it... (In addition to this one, welcome as such, not killing anyone for anything...)
This relates to the BBC story: "LHC reports discovery of its first new particle" by (YouTube hating of URL within it's "product"): triple-w-dot-bbc-dot-co-dot-uk-slash-news-slash-science-environment-16301908. :-)
Mere guessing, but here is: Let's think that LHC has found a part of one of the quants, Up, Down, Bottom, Top, Charm and Strange (sometimes called Beauty)! Do we agree? I also epxect the eV value to be in the range of MeV, that is 50 MeV to 0,5 MeV! I find this plausible considering the large amounts of data produced from each chain of protons smashed together with the other! Some TB or something... The latest series was also conducted at 3,5TeVx2, coming at one another at equal poser, 7,0 TeV..
see HERE IT HIGGS on youtube. Higg Boson Experiment simply finds a head on elastic collision creates diverged particles (nothing new)...not the Higgs Boson as theorized. New theory suggests we do not need the Higgs Field.
c'mon people read quran Allah mentioned everything. there are 7 additional layers and they are flat.because Allah says he will fold them like piece of papers.Allah also says humanbeing is limited so u couldnt find the dark energy and roots of universe.thats too much.
@hyperislamist I could write a book full of riddles and if it becomes famous enough sometime somewhere someone WILL put some kind of meaning behind it - one I didn't have a clue about. That's pretty much true for all prophecies in and out of holy books. I'm not trying to insult you or your religion but if you're going to make claims like that - do it about more specific things (now it makes sense in that way and 3000 thousand years from now it will mean else entirely).
@hyperislamist It's also possible for the guy who wrote the Quran to be a super genius and invented physics before they invented maths. Ff course there could have been aliens or stuff like that to write it. And then's the possibility of a god.
@bananaondrugs who could predict in a desert that technology and science was going to reach heavens? and why did he say -this is the last religion.when i think about muhammad's life (also jesus,moses but muhammads life is very clear historically) he trusted himself insanely.yes u could write a book like u said but u would have been killed probably.honestly i cant imagine how he managed all he did.
@hyperislamist If you search around in the various cultures of the world you can find many such unimaginable things - that you can just sit and wonder how they could have possibly guessed it right. It could be a God/Gods. It could also be aliens. Or pure luck. And while we are unable to check for aliens or gods we should presume the most plausible explanation(plausible in actual chance of it happening - luck). I haven't actually read any of those holy books but I'm reasonably certain(to be cont.
@hyperislamist that while we give certain parts of them meaning we are like children playing with a puzzle with their eyes closed. They can feel how the parts could fit but never if it's right - even if it feels perfect. Because more than a thousand years have passed. Because the guy could have been mad. Or because some green-skinned humanoids entered his body and started sprouting nonsense/knowledge just for the fun of it.
We think we know.... BUT don't stop our funding or anything..... we're 'a bit sure', if you will.... probably.... close but no cigar... we've got it cornered... I'm sure I saw it somewhere... we've checked everywhere else...
smashing protons into each other in the LHC is like or not like wat happens in a nucleur reactor?..just a question from a layperson trying to understand
@Calisel99 in a nuclear reactor they start and then try to control chain reactions of protons going away from the atom(and releasing a lot of energy) while here they're simply doing big bangs...in reverse...on a tiny skale(if what I said was bullshit please correct me - I ain't got a clue if any of it is true)
@hyperislamist "lol" as in "muhuhaha what an idiot he doesn't get physics"or "lol" as in "that's a strange way to say something true(by stating it could be complete bs)". I'm curious.
@bananaondrugs it wasnt bad ''lol'' i found ur comment funny and honest. only a few people get this level of physics.im not one of them.my opinion about religion is that Quran is a strange book and muhammad is a strange man.i cant think any man who has affected people like him.i was trolling in my old comment about religion.but quran seems strange to me.sometimes.the book seems to be so carefull.its like ,author hesitated to make mistakes for future and repeated simple sentences.strange.
ill bet if they rifled the magnets they wouldnt get as many quenches along the tube walls. it would help center the particles better. turn them into little gyroscopes.
I've now added a "Kill List" much like the the list to BBC Have Your Say. This lies under Slashdot org and the header, "LHC Homes In On Possible Higgs Boson Around 126GeV" (as message 207 or something). I think you can find it! I've also added the Photon Theory to envision a road ahead! Cheers!
it just seems like when bodys come together in the universe they are destroyed and become meteors, planetary belts etc. you never see them combine as much. so what creates gravity in the undesturbed planets? Could gravity be the after effect of the singularity left at the center of all massive objects? a point of infinite small. like a tiny black hole? could gravity be the retraction of a spent higgs, clogging itself with its own mass? uhh, i need to study. questions keeping me up all night.
i have never studied this. but i woke up 2 months ago craving it for some reason. going to school next year, but any info on other learning tools or reading recomendations would be great.
Could it be possible when the big bang occured the higgs bosons released, expanded with mass into the bodys of our universe we see today? At first, when the highest energy is released creating the heavy elements? and lighter elements with the reducing energy output? just seems like the earth has expanded.
if they found the higgs boson, the news would be on many many news sites/papers/tv ...
like "omg we found it!!!! we found it!!!" but now they are saying "we got exciting news incoming" *yawns*... i know it's exciting not finding the higgs particle also @ scientists.. but i will bet on they there is a 99% chance they haven't found it... i still think it would have been more fun if they actually found the damn thing :(
So the latest observation, reading about the Higgs' Field, is that the Higgs' Field breaks with the nature of (outer) space as the best vacuum there is in the Universe (unless one has by now, produced a better one on Earth). Rather, one can argue that photons by nature/"design" travel at that speed because that's what photons do and are capable of, much like recording the (running) speed of a jaguar, an animal, after its prey! (I'll hold it with only one. Let's see what the story is in 2012!)
Is it really necessary to have the Higgs-Boson to explain mass? Why can't ordinary particles have mass simply by property, that is, mass is part of their nature?
BBC World Have Your Say Here's a Q and A on the Higgs Boson: [url]
And isn't "Technicolour" a blow in the air?
Wasn't the intention in the first place (by 3,5 TeV/7 TeV) to smash these pieces smaller? So that the Protons would be split to smaller bits? Then CERN presents masses on 125 GeV? What? (2 more messages or so coming...)
To summarise the masses: Higgs Boson is suggested to 125 GeV(/c(2)), Proton 938.272046(21) MeV(/c2), W boson, 80.398±0.023 GeV/c2, Z boson, 91.1876±0.0021 GeV/c2 and (finally) the Up quark 1.7 - 3.1 MeV/c2! Good? -> then the questions...
The forces issue in physics is really a meeting here of classical physics and these nuclear physics (all including string theory and quantum mechanics). All this has been under hard debate concerning the divide between classical physics and "new" physics and how to make it all come together!
Posted to News 4 Jax God-particle-coming-into-focus - 475880/5346918 - 1js680z index - html in relation to "Gravity" _forces_ are a whole different thing than energy by photons! Forces are given by a kind of smashing force, popularly speaking and this hinges on to the extent of this "Technicolour" set-up! You can't make "forces hop out the hat" like that! To look for forces is "to look for a car _in motion_"! (Or a photon in motion...) This "forces talk" is therefore doomed to fail as well!
@coasterman16 Feel free to visit their website which has all the information you want. But if you wanted this information, you would be smart enough to have thought of that yourself.
@Hansjee1 I am a physics student and have been following the development of the Higgs particle for years. Regardless, I think you would agree with me that this video served no purpose in regards to informing the public, which should be one of the prime goals of any such institution. I have been to the CERN website and always keep up with their press releases, but mentioning basic information in their supposedly educational videos is hardly too much to ask for.
@Hooya2 Exactly. The least they could have done is mention that mass range and comment on A) whether or not it is consistent with predictions and B) what implications it has on the current standard model. This video said absolutely nothing of value.
@boswell255 Well, Scientists are not known for their style or fashion sense. Tweed jackets and north face wind stoppers are the best you are gonna get. Similarly Comic Sans and Times new roman on presentations.
@aqouby Yeah, I think the logic was that it replaces god in the sense that understanding it makes bronze age superstitions unnecessary. They didn't really think it through though. All kinds of theists are coming out of the woodwork and misrepresenting this kind of research as being supportive of their hypothesis :/
@DrChalkwithering Well, give a theist half a story and they'll probably give you what they think is the ending. Too bad the reality isn't a diary, it's a complicated thing that must be deduced through logic and reason and preferably mathematics. Woot!
@aqouby Ah, I think they meant god as in Goddamn particle we can't seem to find....Is Kent Hovin still in prison or is he out and thumbing down science videos?
@1980albatros "Is Kent Hovind still in prison or is he out and thumbing down science videos?"
I don't normally pay attention to such things. But I looked it up. Despite efforts by his son and partner in crime, Eric, his planned release date is still Aug 11, 2015. His wife, Jo, served about a year and is now on probation. That's "family values" for you. It makes one proud to be a bachelor heathen.
@aqouby The Higgs' was not named the "god particle" by physicists. That name became popular among science-ignorant journalists after the publication of john Lederman's science popularization book on the topic: "The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?"
This was not Lederman's original title, however. He had wanted to call it the "goddamn particle" in reference to its elusive nature, but the publisher balked.
@sbergman27 Really? Thankyou for the info-- I thought the origin of the name was a joke when I first heard it but it makes sense now... Goddamned elusive particle. :P
Excellent that we're seeing hints of the Higgs though. All jokes aside, I'm very pleased the theory is coming to fruition, although I may be happier if we don't find it.
@aqouby Very perceptive, aqouby. I can see you are coming along in your quest. The LHC finding what we expect, but no new surprises would be, in a sense, a worst case scenario. We know that QM & Relativity, together, are incomplete. The theorists need new clues.. like not finding Higgs. Whatever QM mechanism causes massive & massless particles to act so differently must be important to any theory attempting to combine QM with GR. I don't know why that is not discussed more.
@sbergman27 Maybe it's a part from the layman community deciding on what's what to socialize about over physics. Possibly also because we don't want to put all of our imagination into a model which may in the future lead to some confusion. But considering the lack of failure that the standard model has posed, as well as it not contradicting other more mathematically superb models, such as string theory.
Again, either way is good for me. Thanks for the encouragement.
@aqouby Most particle physics will tell you - that it would be the most fun, if they don't find the Higgs Boson. Because it would mean, they have a lot more to find out about the universe. They hope also, if they detect the Higgs Boson, that they still discover some "new physics".
@canuzzi Yup! You're talking to a future theoretical physicist. I'm going to crack this stupid code if it's the last thing I do! :D
Either we find the Higgs and continue our research into deeper mysteries-- Or, we don't find it and a lot of men get a lot more bald. And woman physicists will get a lot more.... Uh... I don't know.... Fat?
@southparkXD1 Well they might. You should look in to it if you really want to go. I went there and to some other places in the region with my class when I was just 17. Perhaps that was too early, you need to study a good deal of physics to get a good grasp of what's going on, which I have since. Anyway, we got a great presentation from an on-site physicisist as well as a tour of the place.
@southparkXD1 Absolutely. You can tour a large portion of the main facility pretty much anytime of the year weather permitting. Even go underground and see parts of the machine when it is shut down for maintenance. To be honest, they could organize a much better tour and tour guides however CERN seems to hire people who are really good at science and nothing else. Probably the same reason this video is such poor quality.
You probarbly wont get down into the ring or into the caverns where the detectors are, because while the machine is running its too dangerous. And the machine is running most of the time. But they have a visitors center with some exhibitions, they do public lectures i think, and maybe you can visit their data processing facilities and look at some of their cryogenics, stuff like that.
sun will blow up, MESSIAHH
frenkyusuf 2 days ago
heyyy you,, you, you , listen to me carefully now, when the atoms, smash eachothers, it makes that cosmic under the ground, l mean it make A LIGHT, with that light, you are going to be creater, you are going to be destroyer, and you are going to be maker, nowww question is this, if you would be the GOD,would you give that chance to human, MESSIAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
frenkyusuf 2 days ago
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Fellow brothers and sisters, I am here to warn you about the drastic impacts that CERN will have on the future. They are secretly developing a time machine and with such power shall rule the world. The reason I know all of this is because I am from the year 2036. We must not let this happen. Sincerely, John Titor. El Psy Congroo...
dragonoid250 3 weeks ago
Forget the Higgs boson, there's a bloody frog in the detector @ 1:00!
Energonorama 4 weeks ago
What a joke, there is no Higgs particle. Obviously, the C from CERN stands for Clueless.
Nomasain 1 month ago
@Nomasain Obviously, you're an idiot.
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@blind999
Please take the time to read Stardrive on my website. You cannot debunk Stardrive, even if you had all the help from this retarded institute you're defending right now.
Really, take your time and discover how mainstream science stacks error on error on error, making quantum-mechanics seem way more complicated than it really is.
Nomasain 1 week ago
@Nomasain
Did you arrive at that conclusion from your armchair? Are you familiar with the equations of theoretical physics regarding inflationary cosmology or particle-mass? I think that you're the one that's clueless.
Paddyllfixit 1 week ago
@Paddyllfixit 30 years obsession, a 150 IQ on a bad day. Read STARDRIVE if you like, and you will see gravity is an imbalance between push & pull. A simple interaction between the aether and the nucleons.
STARDRIVE is the only Unified Theory that explains EVERYTHING, and does this using only Newtonian mechanics.
Because mainstream science is clueless about gravity, the hold a imaginary particle (Higgs) responsible. That's equal to holding God responsible for things we cannot explain.
Nomasain 1 week ago
@Nomasain
....for someone who claims "30years obsession and 150 IQ on a bad day(lol)" u sound muddled and confused. For a start, classical Newtonian mechanics is wholly inadequate in describing gravity as it doesn't account for energy or pressure, ie negative pressure which translates as repulsive "negative" gravity. And I gather that you don't believe that graviton bosons exist either? Or the electroweak Higgs field, or the Higgs field of grand unified theories, or the inflaton Higgs field?
Paddyllfixit 1 week ago
@Paddyllfixit Stardrive says gravity is push-pull. I've uploaded SRD38 which explains the expansion of our universe using Newtonian mechanics (pressure & energy!). I do believe in gravitons; the aether is made out of gravitons. They are the same as electrons, but have a moderate speed (therefore we don't detect them).
Fields are no more than mechanical interactions between gravitons and nucleons; Gamma radiation is a deviation in the spin of gravitons themselves.
Nomasain 1 week ago
They need a real video producer, this video can be so much better.
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matmicmj 1 month ago
God particle, what is it?, It's all around you and you cannot see it, but you can feel it when it's it's upset?? Feel the friction baby or you will collapse!!!!! LOL!
TheParaAnalysis 1 month ago
What gives mass to the Higgs boson if it is ever found? And what gives mass to that, wich gives mass to the Higgs boson and what gives mass to it, and...
slonamu 1 month ago
@slonamu some particles have no mass, like elementary bosons...
BlizzPort 1 month ago
@slonamu the higgs mechanis is really well structured, and allow the particle to be the cause of his own mass
azhr4el 1 month ago
@azhr4el
It is really like a God then does it? It causes its own existence? Quantum mechanics is getting uncomfortably close to religion for most square scientists I am feeling.
Well structured... Nice answer. Thank you for nothing...
slonamu 1 month ago
so the update is you still haven't found it..
MegaTinFoil 1 month ago
I found the higgs under a cheetos wrapper on my kitchen counter
ricktbdgc 2 months ago
Why are you trying to put universe into the bag? There is only one bag of this kind. It's bag of Santa Claus.
PRLrox 2 months ago
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akalindesign 2 months ago
IF there are 5 quantization modes of the Higgs Field (5 Higgs Bosons), will all of them occur within the 115 to 145 GeV mass-energy range?
55t1 2 months ago
ATLAS has spent 5,5 billion dollars to look for smth. Wow, they found something!!! :-D
Devoradoptio 2 months ago
There is a more refined presentation with "Higgs Update Dec 13, 2011 (Part 2)" if you bother to search for it... (In addition to this one, welcome as such, not killing anyone for anything...)
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
This relates to the BBC story: "LHC reports discovery of its first new particle" by (YouTube hating of URL within it's "product"): triple-w-dot-bbc-dot-co-dot-uk-slash-news-slash-science-environment-16301908. :-)
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
...Vastly higher than the former, some number... 0,9 TeV (by Tevatron, perhaps)... Good?
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
Mere guessing, but here is: Let's think that LHC has found a part of one of the quants, Up, Down, Bottom, Top, Charm and Strange (sometimes called Beauty)! Do we agree? I also epxect the eV value to be in the range of MeV, that is 50 MeV to 0,5 MeV! I find this plausible considering the large amounts of data produced from each chain of protons smashed together with the other! Some TB or something... The latest series was also conducted at 3,5TeVx2, coming at one another at equal poser, 7,0 TeV..
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
see HERE IT HIGGS on youtube. Higg Boson Experiment simply finds a head on elastic collision creates diverged particles (nothing new)...not the Higgs Boson as theorized. New theory suggests we do not need the Higgs Field.
DFTDADAMS 2 months ago
Clap, clap, clap! keep up the good work guys, well done..2012 will be a good year..
lionnew 2 months ago
c'mon people read quran Allah mentioned everything. there are 7 additional layers and they are flat.because Allah says he will fold them like piece of papers.Allah also says humanbeing is limited so u couldnt find the dark energy and roots of universe.thats too much.
hyperislamist 2 months ago
@hyperislamist I could write a book full of riddles and if it becomes famous enough sometime somewhere someone WILL put some kind of meaning behind it - one I didn't have a clue about. That's pretty much true for all prophecies in and out of holy books. I'm not trying to insult you or your religion but if you're going to make claims like that - do it about more specific things (now it makes sense in that way and 3000 thousand years from now it will mean else entirely).
bananaondrugs 2 months ago
@hyperislamist It's also possible for the guy who wrote the Quran to be a super genius and invented physics before they invented maths. Ff course there could have been aliens or stuff like that to write it. And then's the possibility of a god.
bananaondrugs 2 months ago
@bananaondrugs who could predict in a desert that technology and science was going to reach heavens? and why did he say -this is the last religion.when i think about muhammad's life (also jesus,moses but muhammads life is very clear historically) he trusted himself insanely.yes u could write a book like u said but u would have been killed probably.honestly i cant imagine how he managed all he did.
hyperislamist 2 months ago
@hyperislamist If you search around in the various cultures of the world you can find many such unimaginable things - that you can just sit and wonder how they could have possibly guessed it right. It could be a God/Gods. It could also be aliens. Or pure luck. And while we are unable to check for aliens or gods we should presume the most plausible explanation(plausible in actual chance of it happening - luck). I haven't actually read any of those holy books but I'm reasonably certain(to be cont.
bananaondrugs 2 months ago
@hyperislamist that while we give certain parts of them meaning we are like children playing with a puzzle with their eyes closed. They can feel how the parts could fit but never if it's right - even if it feels perfect. Because more than a thousand years have passed. Because the guy could have been mad. Or because some green-skinned humanoids entered his body and started sprouting nonsense/knowledge just for the fun of it.
bananaondrugs 2 months ago
at 51 seconds, "there are some intriguing fluctuations..." that doesn't sound good...
Does anybody know what the actual data is?
ian5576 2 months ago
We think we know.... BUT don't stop our funding or anything..... we're 'a bit sure', if you will.... probably.... close but no cigar... we've got it cornered... I'm sure I saw it somewhere... we've checked everywhere else...
Energonorama 2 months ago
smashing protons into each other in the LHC is like or not like wat happens in a nucleur reactor?..just a question from a layperson trying to understand
Calisel99 2 months ago
@Calisel99 in a nuclear reactor they start and then try to control chain reactions of protons going away from the atom(and releasing a lot of energy) while here they're simply doing big bangs...in reverse...on a tiny skale(if what I said was bullshit please correct me - I ain't got a clue if any of it is true)
bananaondrugs 2 months ago
@bananaondrugs lol
hyperislamist 2 months ago
@hyperislamist "lol" as in "muhuhaha what an idiot he doesn't get physics"or "lol" as in "that's a strange way to say something true(by stating it could be complete bs)". I'm curious.
bananaondrugs 2 months ago
@bananaondrugs Now that I think about it it could have been neutrinos and not protons.
bananaondrugs 2 months ago
@bananaondrugs it wasnt bad ''lol'' i found ur comment funny and honest. only a few people get this level of physics.im not one of them.my opinion about religion is that Quran is a strange book and muhammad is a strange man.i cant think any man who has affected people like him.i was trolling in my old comment about religion.but quran seems strange to me.sometimes.the book seems to be so carefull.its like ,author hesitated to make mistakes for future and repeated simple sentences.strange.
hyperislamist 2 months ago
Yep next year should be good
austpom333 2 months ago
im going to laugh my ass off when these cern scientist can't find the higgs boson , what a day it will be :D
lorndarken 2 months ago
@lorndarken ur baaad:)
hyperislamist 2 months ago
@hyperislamist what ?
lorndarken 2 months ago
@lorndarken u are funny
hyperislamist 2 months ago
bgaede <<Is a complete douche nozzle. He is poisoning ignorant minds. He's anti-science.
aqouby 2 months ago
ill bet if they rifled the magnets they wouldnt get as many quenches along the tube walls. it would help center the particles better. turn them into little gyroscopes.
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I've now added a "Kill List" much like the the list to BBC Have Your Say. This lies under Slashdot org and the header, "LHC Homes In On Possible Higgs Boson Around 126GeV" (as message 207 or something). I think you can find it! I've also added the Photon Theory to envision a road ahead! Cheers!
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
it just seems like when bodys come together in the universe they are destroyed and become meteors, planetary belts etc. you never see them combine as much. so what creates gravity in the undesturbed planets? Could gravity be the after effect of the singularity left at the center of all massive objects? a point of infinite small. like a tiny black hole? could gravity be the retraction of a spent higgs, clogging itself with its own mass? uhh, i need to study. questions keeping me up all night.
imlistening2it 2 months ago
And the same year they discover the higgs boson that makes it all fit together, they screw it up by shooting a neutrino faster than light. T_T
AngeCord 2 months ago
i have never studied this. but i woke up 2 months ago craving it for some reason. going to school next year, but any info on other learning tools or reading recomendations would be great.
Could it be possible when the big bang occured the higgs bosons released, expanded with mass into the bodys of our universe we see today? At first, when the highest energy is released creating the heavy elements? and lighter elements with the reducing energy output? just seems like the earth has expanded.
imlistening2it 2 months ago
if they found the higgs boson, the news would be on many many news sites/papers/tv ...
like "omg we found it!!!! we found it!!!" but now they are saying "we got exciting news incoming" *yawns*... i know it's exciting not finding the higgs particle also @ scientists.. but i will bet on they there is a 99% chance they haven't found it... i still think it would have been more fun if they actually found the damn thing :(
Jazobsen 2 months ago
Totally Quarky
Callirgos1 2 months ago
My future self is going to tell my grand kids:
"Billy, when I was your age particle accelerators took up two countries! Don't take for granted your table top ones."
spinynorman1982 2 months ago 16
@spinynorman1982 great comment!
Lilihieraax 1 month ago
@Lilihieraax lol thanks!
spinynorman1982 1 month ago
So the latest observation, reading about the Higgs' Field, is that the Higgs' Field breaks with the nature of (outer) space as the best vacuum there is in the Universe (unless one has by now, produced a better one on Earth). Rather, one can argue that photons by nature/"design" travel at that speed because that's what photons do and are capable of, much like recording the (running) speed of a jaguar, an animal, after its prey! (I'll hold it with only one. Let's see what the story is in 2012!)
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
Is it really necessary to have the Higgs-Boson to explain mass? Why can't ordinary particles have mass simply by property, that is, mass is part of their nature?
BBC World Have Your Say Here's a Q and A on the Higgs Boson: [url]
And isn't "Technicolour" a blow in the air?
Wasn't the intention in the first place (by 3,5 TeV/7 TeV) to smash these pieces smaller? So that the Protons would be split to smaller bits? Then CERN presents masses on 125 GeV? What? (2 more messages or so coming...)
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
To summarise the masses: Higgs Boson is suggested to 125 GeV(/c(2)), Proton 938.272046(21) MeV(/c2), W boson, 80.398±0.023 GeV/c2, Z boson, 91.1876±0.0021 GeV/c2 and (finally) the Up quark 1.7 - 3.1 MeV/c2! Good? -> then the questions...
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
The forces issue in physics is really a meeting here of classical physics and these nuclear physics (all including string theory and quantum mechanics). All this has been under hard debate concerning the divide between classical physics and "new" physics and how to make it all come together!
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
Posted to News 4 Jax God-particle-coming-into-focus - 475880/5346918 - 1js680z index - html in relation to "Gravity" _forces_ are a whole different thing than energy by photons! Forces are given by a kind of smashing force, popularly speaking and this hinges on to the extent of this "Technicolour" set-up! You can't make "forces hop out the hat" like that! To look for forces is "to look for a car _in motion_"! (Or a photon in motion...) This "forces talk" is therefore doomed to fail as well!
LeonardoFOlsnesLea 2 months ago
So much hate in the comments, it's so sad...
lFuks4l 2 months ago
I would have called it the WTF? particle. Where the fock is it.
frededison 2 months ago
fucking comic sans!
skeeterhmcr 2 months ago
It would be nice if the video actually gave you some information instead of being a useless trailer for a surely fascinating research presentation.
coasterman16 2 months ago
@coasterman16 Feel free to visit their website which has all the information you want. But if you wanted this information, you would be smart enough to have thought of that yourself.
Hansjee1 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Hansjee1 I am a physics student and have been following the development of the Higgs particle for years. Regardless, I think you would agree with me that this video served no purpose in regards to informing the public, which should be one of the prime goals of any such institution. I have been to the CERN website and always keep up with their press releases, but mentioning basic information in their supposedly educational videos is hardly too much to ask for.
coasterman16 2 months ago
@coasterman16 The information is, 'we got nothing'. The LHC hasn't found it yet, they've just further narrowed it's range of masses.
Hooya2 2 months ago
@Hooya2 Exactly. The least they could have done is mention that mass range and comment on A) whether or not it is consistent with predictions and B) what implications it has on the current standard model. This video said absolutely nothing of value.
coasterman16 2 months ago
watch?v=N792AJi9qHM
rollsthepaul 2 months ago
The cake is a lie.
harlowsolid 2 months ago
They are doing what ever they can to secure funds to keep their jobs.
Uriel1816 2 months ago
@Uriel1816 Their funded for quite some time BTW. }:)
1980albatros 2 months ago in playlist wis.
On the verge of the biggest scientific discovery of the century....and they use Comic Sans in their presentation about it. Sorry, lost all respect.
boswell255 2 months ago 3
@boswell255 Well, Scientists are not known for their style or fashion sense. Tweed jackets and north face wind stoppers are the best you are gonna get. Similarly Comic Sans and Times new roman on presentations.
CyberNeticRodent 2 months ago
@CyberNeticRodent Fair point....
boswell255 2 months ago
All that money and they can't afford an HD camera...
vlogsmack 2 months ago
Why do they use Comic Sans on their slides?
martinmine 2 months ago
@martinmine BECAUSE IT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS
hanslol 2 months ago
Outstanding! Well done.
Odin412z 2 months ago
Good work, keep it up!
lFuks4l 2 months ago
ufo at 00:54
i8hy6e3 2 months ago
Very badly produced vid.. I was a bit confused what was actually trying to be said with all those volume levels fluctuating like that.
8DX 2 months ago
CERN, seriously. You don't just use comic sans and animated .gifs from the year 1990.
Especially on a important discovery.
CrazyFuppy 2 months ago
@CrazyFuppy I could care less about that brother. Were in amazing times.
1980albatros 2 months ago
Another Huge Step For Humanity! CONGRATULATION
we are almost there
spinol4 2 months ago 2
I'm going to name a particle to pay homage to science and reason... I'll call it "the god particle"
"FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
aqouby 2 months ago 69
@aqouby Yeah, I think the logic was that it replaces god in the sense that understanding it makes bronze age superstitions unnecessary. They didn't really think it through though. All kinds of theists are coming out of the woodwork and misrepresenting this kind of research as being supportive of their hypothesis :/
DrChalkwithering 2 months ago
@DrChalkwithering Well, give a theist half a story and they'll probably give you what they think is the ending. Too bad the reality isn't a diary, it's a complicated thing that must be deduced through logic and reason and preferably mathematics. Woot!
aqouby 2 months ago
@aqouby Ah, I think they meant god as in Goddamn particle we can't seem to find....Is Kent Hovin still in prison or is he out and thumbing down science videos?
1980albatros 2 months ago in playlist wis.
@1980albatros LOL, I was wondering who gave this a thumbs down
aqouby 2 months ago
@1980albatros "Is Kent Hovind still in prison or is he out and thumbing down science videos?"
I don't normally pay attention to such things. But I looked it up. Despite efforts by his son and partner in crime, Eric, his planned release date is still Aug 11, 2015. His wife, Jo, served about a year and is now on probation. That's "family values" for you. It makes one proud to be a bachelor heathen.
sbergman27 2 months ago
@sbergman27 HAHAHA!! Thanks for the info bud. Peace };)
1980albatros 2 months ago
@aqouby The Higgs' was not named the "god particle" by physicists. That name became popular among science-ignorant journalists after the publication of john Lederman's science popularization book on the topic: "The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?"
This was not Lederman's original title, however. He had wanted to call it the "goddamn particle" in reference to its elusive nature, but the publisher balked.
sbergman27 2 months ago
@sbergman27 Really? Thankyou for the info-- I thought the origin of the name was a joke when I first heard it but it makes sense now... Goddamned elusive particle. :P
Excellent that we're seeing hints of the Higgs though. All jokes aside, I'm very pleased the theory is coming to fruition, although I may be happier if we don't find it.
aqouby 2 months ago
@aqouby Very perceptive, aqouby. I can see you are coming along in your quest. The LHC finding what we expect, but no new surprises would be, in a sense, a worst case scenario. We know that QM & Relativity, together, are incomplete. The theorists need new clues.. like not finding Higgs. Whatever QM mechanism causes massive & massless particles to act so differently must be important to any theory attempting to combine QM with GR. I don't know why that is not discussed more.
sbergman27 2 months ago
@sbergman27 Maybe it's a part from the layman community deciding on what's what to socialize about over physics. Possibly also because we don't want to put all of our imagination into a model which may in the future lead to some confusion. But considering the lack of failure that the standard model has posed, as well as it not contradicting other more mathematically superb models, such as string theory.
Again, either way is good for me. Thanks for the encouragement.
aqouby 2 months ago
@aqouby Most particle physics will tell you - that it would be the most fun, if they don't find the Higgs Boson. Because it would mean, they have a lot more to find out about the universe. They hope also, if they detect the Higgs Boson, that they still discover some "new physics".
canuzzi 2 months ago
@canuzzi Yup! You're talking to a future theoretical physicist. I'm going to crack this stupid code if it's the last thing I do! :D
Either we find the Higgs and continue our research into deeper mysteries-- Or, we don't find it and a lot of men get a lot more bald. And woman physicists will get a lot more.... Uh... I don't know.... Fat?
aqouby 2 months ago
Wish I as smart enough to work at CERN. I've always wanted to see the LHC, do they let people visit it and have a look at it? (I'm assuming no haha).
southparkXD1 2 months ago
@southparkXD1 The people working a CERN will always need clean floors and lunch.
CyberNeticRodent 2 months ago
@CyberNeticRodent And clean telephones. Never forget clean telephones. ;-)
sbergman27 2 months ago
@southparkXD1 They do in form of summer/winter study weeks for physics and astronomy students.
Ab5trak1on 2 months ago
@southparkXD1 Well they might. You should look in to it if you really want to go. I went there and to some other places in the region with my class when I was just 17. Perhaps that was too early, you need to study a good deal of physics to get a good grasp of what's going on, which I have since. Anyway, we got a great presentation from an on-site physicisist as well as a tour of the place.
SteniSAfMesters 2 months ago
@southparkXD1 Absolutely. You can tour a large portion of the main facility pretty much anytime of the year weather permitting. Even go underground and see parts of the machine when it is shut down for maintenance. To be honest, they could organize a much better tour and tour guides however CERN seems to hire people who are really good at science and nothing else. Probably the same reason this video is such poor quality.
harlowsolid 2 months ago
@southparkXD1
You probarbly wont get down into the ring or into the caverns where the detectors are, because while the machine is running its too dangerous. And the machine is running most of the time. But they have a visitors center with some exhibitions, they do public lectures i think, and maybe you can visit their data processing facilities and look at some of their cryogenics, stuff like that.
kurtilein3 2 months ago
Higgs.... we know you're in there. We have the building surrounded. There is now where to hide. Come out with your hands up!
CyberNeticRodent 2 months ago 60