And I'm happy with what I use. When I'm gigging I go through one set per gig and I get my strings for $4.00 each so it's the most cost effective for me to use the best string I can get for that money and D'Addario's are it.
Also if you are leaving the coils above where the strings extends to the nut you reduce the risk of nut buzz the more coils you have. But safe to say there are a number of different schools of thought ;)
Different strokes for different folks and all, but I have a Tele that on the higher strings I sometimes wind round 5-6 times. I can't say whether it affects the tone, but it sounds good to me. Not really buying your "completely lose the tone" theory.
Absolutely true. Each wind around the peg puts one complete twist in the string. 6, 7 wraps and you have 6 or 7 twists. Not good. You want the least amount of pressure where the string breaks over the nut. Bottom line? I don't break strings on stage. And I'm playing a Standard Strat! Not even the 1st E (.009). Great tone starts with great strings (D'Addario) properly installed.
@AceOfHeart2012 you said "Great tone starts with great strings (D'Addario) properly installed" but what i said that elixir strings are the best in my opinion because they don't wear out like traditional strings they are coated and are sweet in tonality..... check them out for your self man trust me you'll love them
hooking it under like that is a bit dodgy especially when you get to the thiner strings cause the tennsion of the string ovrt the string could cut the string probably will cut the string sooner rather than later maybe its better for studio recording but not so much live cause of reliability. its funny cause he says youl only need one guitar and one amp with my killer techniqes lol . well ithink its better to have 3 guitars on stage when using his awsome never betterd string wrapping method
well never do it too quickly, cause you'll snap the string. you probably want to do one full rotation every few seconds, play a 10-15 second practice piece, then retune. you can tell when that happens that the pitch will drop real fast. also be careful of hte stress your floyd rose puts on the strings, because if it's too much for a different gauge or something, you may want to block it or loosen the springs inside. I had to do that when I switched from medium to light on a spare guitar.
mine stays in tune for a long time the only way it goes out of it the strings stretch but the dont also witha fixed bridge the balls aont end of the strings will snap also when you use pinched harmonics your strings will go out of tune
That's what I do. I wrap the string by hand around the peg and then put it through the hole. Seems to work just fine. They are always a pain to remove if you hook it under the wrap.
hahah this is unknown to me... i just put it in.... once... and start rapping... i put in the hole and then turn... which is bad though.. cause it fucks up the string...
this seems to be all bullshit. i dont want some idiot giving me his OPINION, i want proof. we were provided none. also when a string is making turns around a post, the outer layers furthest from the post have the furthest distance to travel, so the outer layers are being stressed the most. on the treble strings the core and outer layers are one and the same. any tension put on a string during tuning ought to stretch it out. if you put little tension on your string during tuning, itll stretch
I try and get as many wraps as possible because, ( I have a floyd) the srings usually brake at the bridge, so if you have enough windes you can sometimes just unwind and replace...with the same string...
Nope... He thinks that if the bridge with (badly and too sharp mmm "stones") can slit his string, he needs some more of string, so one or two string arounds will help him not to change string wholy. But if the bridge is bad in some way, he should check it, because guitar have to be OK.
the first tip is completely useless. all you gotta do to avoid the string twisting, is thread the string then turn the knob until it's completely winded up. thats the right way to wind it, it may take a few minutes, but it beats having a sucky tone. i hope that helps
No not really because the string is being locked at the nut.You could cut off the string past the nut if you want and it wouldn't be affected.But you should still wound the string just to keep it in place But after that it won't matter.
I bought some instructional cd's from Bob and a had a bad cd issue, I notified Bob and he quickly sent a new one..good businessman and good music instruction as well...thx Bob.
I'm looking at the top of my keys on my Les Paul and the hole is alot lower to the head stock then what I see in the video. There must be slack when he wraps it as well because if you pull it tight right away it does not wrap and turn out the same as what I'm seeing.
i found that when I pass the strings around the machine head to loop them under they kink which weakens the string. I just found this method quite fiddly to use and the guy makes it look so easy. Saying that, the strings are still on ok and hold tune better. I'm just waiting for them to snap
I've been using this method for over and year. Never had a string break because of it. I broke a few by overtightening(those darn open tunings do that to me but I still keep using them...) but that's my fault.
i just built a tele and got the schaller locking guitar machines. they are INCREDIBLE, and staggered when in-line, so you don't need a string tree. you can get them on stewmac for like 86 bucks w. shipping. seriously they are amazing!
I know, but whats the point of having the screws if you dont have the micro tuners, FLoyd Rose tremolo Cost 200 dollars, and you also have to pay someone to put it on your guitar!
Hmm, what happened? Did they break or something? The method should be fine, I've been using it every time I restring my instruments and so far the strings haven't broken.
i just tried this and it seems to work nicely. I did end up with only about one wrap on the lower strings, since the looping under and back over takes up a lot of string. So, if you want to have 2 or three wraps with this, leave more slack to start than you would have before. I do recommend trying it.
I must be doing something wrong though. If I put my strings on my guitar this way, I end up with less than one wrap! I don't even pull the string tight that much.
That's much less than the 3 wraps shown in the video o.o
0:22 chuck berry wound up the entire end of the string on the tuners
jimelzenga 1 month ago
And I'm happy with what I use. When I'm gigging I go through one set per gig and I get my strings for $4.00 each so it's the most cost effective for me to use the best string I can get for that money and D'Addario's are it.
AceOfHeart2012 1 month ago
Nice info!
jazz1bro 2 months ago
Also if you are leaving the coils above where the strings extends to the nut you reduce the risk of nut buzz the more coils you have. But safe to say there are a number of different schools of thought ;)
jdenicholls 5 months ago
Different strokes for different folks and all, but I have a Tele that on the higher strings I sometimes wind round 5-6 times. I can't say whether it affects the tone, but it sounds good to me. Not really buying your "completely lose the tone" theory.
jdenicholls 5 months ago
Cool cheers for the great advice
I sell capacitors too on the bay,and these do amazing things for the tone.
It's lots of small things that all add up.
There's a great book on pickups ,and check out how they replicate the original humbucker
At seymore Duncan .
Or build a national guitar video,see how they replicate the 30's metal in the cones.
Every bit has a tiny effect from the wood to strings,to pups,caps,electrics,even the way we play etc.
On a quest for tone.......
407bug 5 months ago
I've got $250 Austin Lp copy and it plays awesome when I do this, oh I also put a little pencil graphite in the grooves of the nut.
TheZepmeister 10 months ago
Do you still need to do this on locking tuners?
imatube2 1 year ago
Absolutely true. Each wind around the peg puts one complete twist in the string. 6, 7 wraps and you have 6 or 7 twists. Not good. You want the least amount of pressure where the string breaks over the nut. Bottom line? I don't break strings on stage. And I'm playing a Standard Strat! Not even the 1st E (.009). Great tone starts with great strings (D'Addario) properly installed.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
@AceOfHeart2012 no way elixer strings are the best nano web the brightest i think
jamiejamesbrown 2 months ago
@jamiejamesbrown I don't think I said they were the best. I don't use Elixers. Not sure where you got that from.
AceOfHeart2012 1 month ago
@AceOfHeart2012 you said "Great tone starts with great strings (D'Addario) properly installed" but what i said that elixir strings are the best in my opinion because they don't wear out like traditional strings they are coated and are sweet in tonality..... check them out for your self man trust me you'll love them
jamiejamesbrown 1 month ago
hooking it under like that is a bit dodgy especially when you get to the thiner strings cause the tennsion of the string ovrt the string could cut the string probably will cut the string sooner rather than later maybe its better for studio recording but not so much live cause of reliability. its funny cause he says youl only need one guitar and one amp with my killer techniqes lol . well ithink its better to have 3 guitars on stage when using his awsome never betterd string wrapping method
Wildchild880 2 years ago
hey i got a question i always get something like a really anoying thing.
When i got new strings and trying to wind them up.
I dont dare to do it quikly.
Thats thanks to floyds do i automaticly stop with being scared?
liamzuid 2 years ago
well never do it too quickly, cause you'll snap the string. you probably want to do one full rotation every few seconds, play a 10-15 second practice piece, then retune. you can tell when that happens that the pitch will drop real fast. also be careful of hte stress your floyd rose puts on the strings, because if it's too much for a different gauge or something, you may want to block it or loosen the springs inside. I had to do that when I switched from medium to light on a spare guitar.
FarazR2 2 years ago
this is the correct way people, has always worked for me on my les paul, most people say you can't keep a les paul in tune, thats bull shit...
jashobbsie 3 years ago 2
I agree. My Les Paul stays in tune for days.
Earnhardt12345 3 years ago
my jackson with a FLOYD ROSE stays in tune for months
cobraopts7 2 years ago 4
mines stays in tune for ever
TrooperEddey 2 years ago
mine stays in tune for a long time the only way it goes out of it the strings stretch but the dont also witha fixed bridge the balls aont end of the strings will snap also when you use pinched harmonics your strings will go out of tune
cobraopts7 2 years ago
Mine stays in tune for 40 days and 40 nights...
123b1s1m1 2 years ago
Mine guitar stays in tune taht well , that i never actually tuned it, plus it got a floating tremolo aswell.
That's one hell of a good tuning guitar.
No actualy , mine stays in tune for maybe a couple of songs XD
ragrytakr 2 years ago
This ain't it you should wrap the sring first
then put it through hole,tighten to pitch the bent the string against the peg hole to lock.
guitark3 3 years ago
That's what I do. I wrap the string by hand around the peg and then put it through the hole. Seems to work just fine. They are always a pain to remove if you hook it under the wrap.
dwcarkuff 3 years ago
hahah this is unknown to me... i just put it in.... once... and start rapping... i put in the hole and then turn... which is bad though.. cause it fucks up the string...
codehendrix 3 years ago
with too few wraps dont the strings buzz behind the nut and lose sustain because of the lost energy?
tragictravistie 3 years ago
yes,.,,, and then... that leads to breaking the string..... which happened to me today...
codehendrix 3 years ago
this seems to be all bullshit. i dont want some idiot giving me his OPINION, i want proof. we were provided none. also when a string is making turns around a post, the outer layers furthest from the post have the furthest distance to travel, so the outer layers are being stressed the most. on the treble strings the core and outer layers are one and the same. any tension put on a string during tuning ought to stretch it out. if you put little tension on your string during tuning, itll stretch
tragictravistie 3 years ago
after stringing. also shouldnt more wraps translate into more coupling? note that i have as little proof as molton...
tragictravistie 3 years ago
I try and get as many wraps as possible because, ( I have a floyd) the srings usually brake at the bridge, so if you have enough windes you can sometimes just unwind and replace...with the same string...
JESUSFREAK040 3 years ago
if you have a locking nut so it probably doesnt matter
youztuber5000 3 years ago 3
Nope... He thinks that if the bridge with (badly and too sharp mmm "stones") can slit his string, he needs some more of string, so one or two string arounds will help him not to change string wholy. But if the bridge is bad in some way, he should check it, because guitar have to be OK.
WakizashiSabre 2 years ago
sorry does this work with elexir strins?
zu3tu7 3 years ago
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triangleround 3 years ago
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zu3tu7 3 years ago
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triangleround 3 years ago
Come on children.. Brain the size of a pea?
Earnhardt12345 3 years ago 5
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triangleround 3 years ago
does this work with dadarrio strongs
zu3tu7 3 years ago
the first tip is completely useless. all you gotta do to avoid the string twisting, is thread the string then turn the knob until it's completely winded up. thats the right way to wind it, it may take a few minutes, but it beats having a sucky tone. i hope that helps
david1470 3 years ago
Good tips, but my main guitar has a locking Floyd Rose vibrato and locking top nut, dose this still apply?
WilliamBonneau 3 years ago
No not really because the string is being locked at the nut.You could cut off the string past the nut if you want and it wouldn't be affected.But you should still wound the string just to keep it in place But after that it won't matter.
wiitech 3 years ago
I bought some instructional cd's from Bob and a had a bad cd issue, I notified Bob and he quickly sent a new one..good businessman and good music instruction as well...thx Bob.
shotgunwalter 3 years ago
i dont get the second page of instructions at 3:06 could someone plase explain?
VelvetRevolver0001 3 years ago
I used this method and IT DOES WORK!
I used D'Addario strings to try this.
swingn8 3 years ago
my guitar sounds a lot better but doing this adds a lot of tension to the strings
spacemonkey515 4 years ago
Thanks for the info.
helmsly 4 years ago
cool video and thanks for the time you put into this because i learned alot.
PAbabyy7712 4 years ago 3
I'm looking at the top of my keys on my Les Paul and the hole is alot lower to the head stock then what I see in the video. There must be slack when he wraps it as well because if you pull it tight right away it does not wrap and turn out the same as what I'm seeing.
nacuda9 4 years ago
Good video here Bob! The DVD is also incredible! Hard to put a price on that kind of knowledge! Very nice job bro!
zd2 4 years ago
If you want a whammy bar, then get a Steinberger. :D
nateisneato 4 years ago
i found that when I pass the strings around the machine head to loop them under they kink which weakens the string. I just found this method quite fiddly to use and the guy makes it look so easy. Saying that, the strings are still on ok and hold tune better. I'm just waiting for them to snap
xpack1 4 years ago
they won't break. mine is doing the same and there fine.
Metallica1005 4 years ago 2
I've been using this method for over and year. Never had a string break because of it. I broke a few by overtightening(those darn open tunings do that to me but I still keep using them...) but that's my fault.
SxSDeath 3 years ago
i just built a tele and got the schaller locking guitar machines. they are INCREDIBLE, and staggered when in-line, so you don't need a string tree. you can get them on stewmac for like 86 bucks w. shipping. seriously they are amazing!
porkpie312 4 years ago
good info
adamp2 4 years ago
or just buy the robot guitar
davidvelasco1 4 years ago
not my cup of tea. Spending all that money, buy a regular gibson, amps pedals, and then pay someone to intonate, tune it, and calibrate. Better!
AcDc109 4 years ago
do it yourself. its so easy.
Metallica1005 4 years ago
instead of doing this you can just install these sort of scrws on your strings that ibanez guitars with whammy bars have
robrechtmathues 4 years ago
Yeah, but you know what those screws with the floyd rose tremolo, cost around 200 dollars
AcDc109 4 years ago
no! im talking about these screws on the nut at the head of your guitar these kinda screws for beeing able to use your whammy bar extreme
eddie van halen has these things on the nut i think its called tuning pegs
robrechtmathues 4 years ago
I know, but whats the point of having the screws if you dont have the micro tuners, FLoyd Rose tremolo Cost 200 dollars, and you also have to pay someone to put it on your guitar!
AcDc109 4 years ago
ow but i have a whammy bar
gertrudedechile 4 years ago
All I managed to do was ruin a sat of strings. Don't think i'll bother with this method in future.
xpack1 4 years ago
Hmm, what happened? Did they break or something? The method should be fine, I've been using it every time I restring my instruments and so far the strings haven't broken.
Demoras 4 years ago
For tone I use light distortion, with a crybaby wah-wah pedal all the way down, with the gain on, sounds killer!
slashmckagen 4 years ago
on a double-locking trem? i highly doubt it.
guitarplayerone 4 years ago
excellent method what a diffrence it really makes wow! thanks man
93652 4 years ago
i just tried this and it seems to work nicely. I did end up with only about one wrap on the lower strings, since the looping under and back over takes up a lot of string. So, if you want to have 2 or three wraps with this, leave more slack to start than you would have before. I do recommend trying it.
wcniemi 4 years ago
i always shorten my guitar strings
idk y
250lespaul 4 years ago
Great video :)
I must be doing something wrong though. If I put my strings on my guitar this way, I end up with less than one wrap! I don't even pull the string tight that much.
That's much less than the 3 wraps shown in the video o.o
:| I hope my strings will be okay....
Demoras 4 years ago
great video! :)
LastCommand 4 years ago
a helpful and enjoyable tuition
well done
Cureheads 4 years ago
good video, its alot of help.... :)
Indieguitarist85 4 years ago
thanks man this was a lot of help i've learned a lot from these videos
crywolf383 4 years ago
i like this guy
Mickrophagist 4 years ago