It was more like "NBSee Ya Later", than "NBSee Us" that season. And, furthermore, the former NBC Blue Network (a.k.a. the American Broadcasting Company) was the top network in 1978-79.
@1985OldSkool That's right. Mainly because of the hit shows produced by both Paramount Television (now CBS Television Distribution) and Aaron Spelling respectively.
NBC was at an all time low point here, these shows probably got cancelled within a month or two. Luckily for them, Cheers and Family Ties then Cosby Show saved them and they were pretty much a powerhouse network after that.
The title was intended to have been "CAPRA", 'Bonkoz'. But when Fred Silverman became head of NBC in the summer of 1978, he had the title changed before the show's premiere to a more provocative one, "THE EDDIE CAPRA MYSTERIES" (which didn't help, as it soon disappeared). Same deal with a crime drama that was to be have called "THE FORCE" (starring Joe Don Baker) in 1979. Silverman put it on the air as "EISCHIED" because he wanted the character's name "out front" {like "KOJAK"}- same results.
"WAVERLY WONDERS" was originally one of two Lorimar TV projects Larry Hagman was offered in early 1978- he decided he wanted to appear in a weekly drama series instead of a sitcom, and took the other one: "DALLAS"...
The now infamous tv classic "Diff'rent Strokes" rolled onto NBC in November 78', and during the first season on Friday's at 7 central I NEVER MISSED AN EPISODE!! That last ABC season in 1986 however sucked major!
Didn't the infamous "Supertrain" debut later that season? Now THAT was the worst of the worst. Basically ripping off the Love Boat concept and putting it on a train.
@chabba77 - Yes, it did, during the midseason of 78-79. Until I watched it again here on YouTube, I only saw the two-hour movie premiere of it and I felt like NBC stole two hours of my life that I want back!
To put it to you this way, it had all of the negatives of The Love Boat times a 100 and none of its positives, especially TLB's charm.
What a horrible time for NBC, when ABC under Silverstein dominated the airwaves with a trendy outlook and more popular prime time shows, plus ABC sports' apex in airing most pro sports games and the olympics. The popular joke about NBC at the time was the "Nobody's Watching Network". But in the Palm Springs Cal. area, our NBC affiliate KMIR 36 had the only full-time schedule and local news cast (@6p & 11p), and saw it's competitor KPLM ABC 42 went off the air, so it wasn't that bad for them.+
Wow, 0-10 on that promo. NBC had some pretty bad shows back then. I remember watching ABC most of the time back then. They had Happy Days, Mork and Mindy etc. I did LOVE Buck Rogers on NBC back then though
I think the only showed that I watched for a brief time was "Dick Clark's Live Wednesday" because of the novelty of a live television program in 1978. That novelty wore off quickly, however.
ABC ruled! However, I lived in a different TV market (Palm Springs Cal.) when in 1980 the previous ABC affiliate was purchased by Esquire Communications to saved KPLM, now KESQ "Newschannel 3". The closest CBS affiliate was KECY 9 from El Centro with a Mountain time schedule (2 hours earlier) and has Spanish language programs (same with KMIR 6) before Univision and Telemundo appeared and to provide 3 hours of minority-oriented programming was a FCC requirement in the really "P-C" 1970's.+
Ironically, The White Shadow didn't debut over at CBS until November 1978..The Waverly Wonders only last lasted a matter of weeks during Sept-October of that year. This was probably a matter of NBC knowing what CBS what up to in terms of series development, or vice versa, during the spring of '78, so they could compete harder against each other.
Interesting fact Vaultmaster. "Shadow" was one of my favorite alltime shows. Shot on film, with many location episodes. Seemed like NBC went cheap with their studio shot sitcoms. The shows always looked overlit...
They've kept this jingle in historical perpetuity as they used it for the introduction to one of Saturday Night Live's fake commercials...I think it was a promo called "Battle of the Celebrity T and A's," or something like that. Nice to actually hear the whole tune again.
That was a tough time to get excited about NBC's programming, as compared with ABC's monster hits. I think W.E.B. had only one airing.
Actually, it was "Network Battle of the T's and A's." "Your favorite stars, with some of the biggest T's, and the nicest A's." Classic. But Lifeline looked like a pretty interesting show, very ahead of its time.
Catchy jingle indeed! I was a sunburned 14 year old with summer winding down, waiting for school to start. Was "Waverly" a "Welcome back, Kotter" ripoff? Baio's show a pre-curser to "Charles in charge"?
Waverly Wonders was a show about a high school basketball team starring Joe Namath. Larry Hagman was originally offered Namath's role, but he did "Dallas" instead. Good call on his part because this was gone in 3 weeks and replaced with a show that ran 8 years: "Diff'rent Strokes."
Well, that and the fact that that's all there was to watch, except for syndication! :) Then Fox jumped in in the mid-80's as a syndication network, kind of a "fourth Musketeer."
Jack Albertson starred in "Grandpa" after "Chico" folded. And Scott Baio in "Who's Watching the Kids" which was Nancy Walker's "Blansky's Beauties" re-made.
Wasn't Scott Baio still under contract with Paramount for "Happy Days" then? Then, he did the horrible "Joanie Loves Chachi" in '82. I do like his reality show on VH1 though, "Scott Baio is 46 and Pregnant" which is a sequel to last season's "Scott Baio is 45 and Single." Pretty entertaining to see what this guy is going through.
The irony of all this is that the one show that started on NBC during the 78-79 season that lasted for quite awhile on the network (and was spun off of, also on NBC, and it lasted even longer) is one that wasn't promoted at all in this clips or other similar clips here on YouTube. Diff'rent Strokes, and the s/o was The Facts of Life.
When I was in Los Angeles that fall to celebrate my 21st birthday, I took a tour of the NBC Studios, and on that day, Dick Clark was taping his weekly show, which didn't last very long, and there were some Elvis Presley imitators there.
In the old days, the networks gave its new shows at least 13 weeks or an entire season. Today, they don't even give them a chance. If they ratings are way too low, they'll yank them right off the air as fast as they came on.
In fact, during the 1978-1979 TV season, NBC did not place a show in the Nielsen top 20 at all...the first time ever in network history; that feat was repeated one more season...1981-1982, where the slogan was "Our Pride Is Showing". NBC had been placing at least one show in the top 20 ever since.
The first time I saw this was in a Saturday Night Live compilation of parody commercials -- they had done a phony promo using this tag for something or other.
It was more like "NBSee Ya Later", than "NBSee Us" that season. And, furthermore, the former NBC Blue Network (a.k.a. the American Broadcasting Company) was the top network in 1978-79.
1985OldSkool 8 months ago 3
@1985OldSkool That's right. Mainly because of the hit shows produced by both Paramount Television (now CBS Television Distribution) and Aaron Spelling respectively.
tyrese3745 7 months ago
@tyrese3745 CBS Corporation took over Spelling Television shortly after his death in 2006.
1985OldSkool 4 months ago in playlist NBC Fall Lineup Promos of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s
Since "Grandpa Goes To Wasshington" premiered not long after "Chico And The Man" ended, I always thought of it as "Ed Brown Goes To Washington."
What can I say, I was 12 at the time. :)
smittykins 1 year ago 2
NBC was at an all time low point here, these shows probably got cancelled within a month or two. Luckily for them, Cheers and Family Ties then Cosby Show saved them and they were pretty much a powerhouse network after that.
smokinj721 1 year ago
NBSee you in HELL!!!
hamursh 1 year ago 4
All these new shows fell like a brick in the ratings. That is why NBC was in third
place like today.
TIPTON340 1 year ago 4
The only thing I remember from this is the "NBSeeUs" jingle.
msannomalley 1 year ago
What a GREAT jingle!
vampyros1 1 year ago
The title was intended to have been "CAPRA", 'Bonkoz'. But when Fred Silverman became head of NBC in the summer of 1978, he had the title changed before the show's premiere to a more provocative one, "THE EDDIE CAPRA MYSTERIES" (which didn't help, as it soon disappeared). Same deal with a crime drama that was to be have called "THE FORCE" (starring Joe Don Baker) in 1979. Silverman put it on the air as "EISCHIED" because he wanted the character's name "out front" {like "KOJAK"}- same results.
fromthesidelines 2 years ago
Wait - WTF was "Capra" about?!? A docu-drama series of young Frank Capra goin' around with a movie camera?!?! :-P
Bonkoz 2 years ago
"Capra" was "Eddie Capra Mysteries" a detective drama.
I saw it once or twice and I think I saw the same episode twice. They cancelled it
soon after it debuted.
Has nothing to do with Frank Capra.
kxx46 2 years ago
NBC SSSSSSEEEEEUS NBC SEEEEE US
1soniccool 3 years ago
"WAVERLY WONDERS" was originally one of two Lorimar TV projects Larry Hagman was offered in early 1978- he decided he wanted to appear in a weekly drama series instead of a sitcom, and took the other one: "DALLAS"...
fromthesidelines 3 years ago 2
Probably the best choice he ever made.
Attmay 3 years ago 9
The now infamous tv classic "Diff'rent Strokes" rolled onto NBC in November 78', and during the first season on Friday's at 7 central I NEVER MISSED AN EPISODE!! That last ABC season in 1986 however sucked major!
rkdvideo 3 years ago 4
NBSee Us... This Fall! Creative!
jriley1992 3 years ago
Didn't the infamous "Supertrain" debut later that season? Now THAT was the worst of the worst. Basically ripping off the Love Boat concept and putting it on a train.
chabba77 3 years ago 3
@chabba77 - Yes, it did, during the midseason of 78-79. Until I watched it again here on YouTube, I only saw the two-hour movie premiere of it and I felt like NBC stole two hours of my life that I want back!
To put it to you this way, it had all of the negatives of The Love Boat times a 100 and none of its positives, especially TLB's charm.
donjabroni 1 year ago
Hey, if NBC actually did air "Network Battle of the T's and A's", that might have helped them in the ratings.
godgundam10 3 years ago 2
This must not have been a good time for NBC - I don't remember any of those shows.
MeAndLenaZ 3 years ago 11
What a horrible time for NBC, when ABC under Silverstein dominated the airwaves with a trendy outlook and more popular prime time shows, plus ABC sports' apex in airing most pro sports games and the olympics. The popular joke about NBC at the time was the "Nobody's Watching Network". But in the Palm Springs Cal. area, our NBC affiliate KMIR 36 had the only full-time schedule and local news cast (@6p & 11p), and saw it's competitor KPLM ABC 42 went off the air, so it wasn't that bad for them.+
devulboy1 3 years ago
Kewl.
rmbb10 3 years ago
Wow, 0-10 on that promo. NBC had some pretty bad shows back then. I remember watching ABC most of the time back then. They had Happy Days, Mork and Mindy etc. I did LOVE Buck Rogers on NBC back then though
yerkeskid 3 years ago
I think the only showed that I watched for a brief time was "Dick Clark's Live Wednesday" because of the novelty of a live television program in 1978. That novelty wore off quickly, however.
EarlSnohomish 3 years ago
I only watched it once, because the band Chicago was on. I even taped it--on an AUDIO tape recorder! :)
smittykins 2 years ago
Heh. I remember recording songs off of the television with an audio tape recorder during the '70s. :-)
EarlSnohomish 2 years ago 2
ABC ruled! However, I lived in a different TV market (Palm Springs Cal.) when in 1980 the previous ABC affiliate was purchased by Esquire Communications to saved KPLM, now KESQ "Newschannel 3". The closest CBS affiliate was KECY 9 from El Centro with a Mountain time schedule (2 hours earlier) and has Spanish language programs (same with KMIR 6) before Univision and Telemundo appeared and to provide 3 hours of minority-oriented programming was a FCC requirement in the really "P-C" 1970's.+
devulboy1 3 years ago
Seems "Waverly" was more of a poor man's "White Shadow", the popular CBS show at the time.
mikeareal 3 years ago
Ironically, The White Shadow didn't debut over at CBS until November 1978..The Waverly Wonders only last lasted a matter of weeks during Sept-October of that year. This was probably a matter of NBC knowing what CBS what up to in terms of series development, or vice versa, during the spring of '78, so they could compete harder against each other.
VaultMasterDBT 3 years ago
Interesting fact Vaultmaster. "Shadow" was one of my favorite alltime shows. Shot on film, with many location episodes. Seemed like NBC went cheap with their studio shot sitcoms. The shows always looked overlit...
mikeareal 3 years ago
Ahh yes! As I recall, this was from a time when television DIDN'T SUCK!!
charleskusiak12 3 years ago
Yeah, but NBC sure did back then!
donjabroni 1 year ago
They've kept this jingle in historical perpetuity as they used it for the introduction to one of Saturday Night Live's fake commercials...I think it was a promo called "Battle of the Celebrity T and A's," or something like that. Nice to actually hear the whole tune again.
That was a tough time to get excited about NBC's programming, as compared with ABC's monster hits. I think W.E.B. had only one airing.
33Mark221 3 years ago
Actually, it was "Network Battle of the T's and A's." "Your favorite stars, with some of the biggest T's, and the nicest A's." Classic. But Lifeline looked like a pretty interesting show, very ahead of its time.
KNS1996DFS 3 years ago
Catchy jingle indeed! I was a sunburned 14 year old with summer winding down, waiting for school to start. Was "Waverly" a "Welcome back, Kotter" ripoff? Baio's show a pre-curser to "Charles in charge"?
mikeareal 3 years ago
Waverly Wonders was a show about a high school basketball team starring Joe Namath. Larry Hagman was originally offered Namath's role, but he did "Dallas" instead. Good call on his part because this was gone in 3 weeks and replaced with a show that ran 8 years: "Diff'rent Strokes."
Attmay 3 years ago
They should really bring this creativity back to television.
The jingles is what made BIG 3 back then stick out over the rival networks.
NBCeeeeeeeeeeeUuuuuuuuuuussssss This Fall! LOL!
LindsaysBoys 3 years ago 2
Well, that and the fact that that's all there was to watch, except for syndication! :) Then Fox jumped in in the mid-80's as a syndication network, kind of a "fourth Musketeer."
Bonkoz 2 years ago
Jack Albertson starred in "Grandpa" after "Chico" folded. And Scott Baio in "Who's Watching the Kids" which was Nancy Walker's "Blansky's Beauties" re-made.
MTVCOPS 3 years ago
Wasn't Scott Baio still under contract with Paramount for "Happy Days" then? Then, he did the horrible "Joanie Loves Chachi" in '82. I do like his reality show on VH1 though, "Scott Baio is 46 and Pregnant" which is a sequel to last season's "Scott Baio is 45 and Single." Pretty entertaining to see what this guy is going through.
jupitr2 3 years ago 2
He was on Blansky and Who's Watching first, I believe and then joined Happy Days.
MTVCOPS 3 years ago
LOL Grandpa Goes to Washington! Never heard of the show, but doesn't sound like a winner
loverockit 4 years ago 2
It's about McCain
nomadcowatbk 3 years ago
Gee, don't give NBC any ideas to bring this back! Though it is creative!
4starcashier 4 years ago
Waverly Wonders! Scott Baio! WOW! I think I'll go vomit now...
Jeff98177 4 years ago
The irony of all this is that the one show that started on NBC during the 78-79 season that lasted for quite awhile on the network (and was spun off of, also on NBC, and it lasted even longer) is one that wasn't promoted at all in this clips or other similar clips here on YouTube. Diff'rent Strokes, and the s/o was The Facts of Life.
qtkrispykreme640 4 years ago 2
You're right and those two shows kept the comdey department afloat until The Cosby Show premiered in 1984.
jroyal84 4 years ago 2
@jroyal84 - Don't forget Cheers and Family Ties helped out as well starting in 82.
donjabroni 1 year ago
When I was in Los Angeles that fall to celebrate my 21st birthday, I took a tour of the NBC Studios, and on that day, Dick Clark was taping his weekly show, which didn't last very long, and there were some Elvis Presley imitators there.
In the old days, the networks gave its new shows at least 13 weeks or an entire season. Today, they don't even give them a chance. If they ratings are way too low, they'll yank them right off the air as fast as they came on.
nanlisa 4 years ago
Like with Raines.
someperson42 4 years ago
Has anyone here actually NBSeen any of these shows? I never NBSaw them. :D
Attmay 4 years ago 7
Don't feel bad,not too many NBSaw them.BTW:"Wavelry Wonders" starred Joe Namath,and it got replaced by,you guessed it,"Diff'rent Strokes".
blank77 4 years ago 4
One of those ill-fated shows - "Lifeline," a profile of real-life MDs - may have been the prototype for the "reality" show.
dnm728 4 years ago 2
ABC ruled that season in the network ratings. NBC ended up finishing third behind CBS in the rankings. The NBC see us promo didn't work.
The following year, NBC brought back the peacock!
RCmack 4 years ago
In fact, during the 1978-1979 TV season, NBC did not place a show in the Nielsen top 20 at all...the first time ever in network history; that feat was repeated one more season...1981-1982, where the slogan was "Our Pride Is Showing". NBC had been placing at least one show in the top 20 ever since.
mrceleb2006 4 years ago
Wonderful, catchy jingle for a not-so-good season.
34airflow 5 years ago 2
The biggest T's...with the nicest A's...
I remember that, but I've never heard of any of those crap programs promoted here. No wonder they were in last place.
T00LS 5 years ago
The first time I saw this was in a Saturday Night Live compilation of parody commercials -- they had done a phony promo using this tag for something or other.
brithgob 5 years ago 3
I remember that skit."Network Battle of the T's and A's".
Funny and sexy at the same time!
blank77 5 years ago 2
@blank77 could be the first nbc promo.
cartoonmusicandfilm 1 year ago