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  • I don't like listening to those chants in :27 either-i d't know what is being put in my own head by listening to that shit!

  • @keliciousify I mean in 23:00 in tht part w/that whispering chanting

  • Only in america...fucking pathetic

  • Seems like bull too me!

  • shit will happen....before we rid the world of these vermin...

  • cool story bro

  • This bullshit makes me agressive, bullshit about freemasonry for fuck sacke you can join them if you want :/ you really think the founding fathers where satanic? Gtfo kiddo...

  • whats with the flash at 36:27-36:30 i cant see what it is but i dont like it

  • @williamjljMcbride I just saw that-going to replay. what's ur opinion?

  • @williamjljMcbride well i watched like 6 times andcan't figure it out. def def seems like some subliminal thing. i dn't appreciate that at all! all the research i've done, i've learned you hv to be careful as it can be so tricky in that targeting those of us who are trying to learn what is said to be truth-so can be those very ones loading these vids and targeting us. Sound paranoid?Maybe, but better to be aware.

  • "Brave New World" was authored by Aldous Huxley. George Orwell (Eric Blair) was a classroom student of his while in College,

    One might extrapolate from this that "Animal Farm" and "1984" were warnings, not fiction.

    HG Wells' girlfriend, Margaret Sanger was a Eugenicist. One must ask oneself if the association of Mdm Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine" with Hitler, Annie Basant, Alice Bailey, Manley P Hall, and Lord Alfred Milner's "Rhodes Roundtable" and Edward Mandell House was just "Innocent"?

  • Do you know any actual masons?

  • @marcotacoburger i knew someone who did..but then he took an arrow to the knee

  • you guys are as bad as each other. you should learn to listin to one and other, ifvyou want to tell someone something, you have to listin to what they have to say also, i hear people talk so much shit about philosophy, probley to make them sound smart, clearly you guys arent using it! -_-

  • you can not fight spritiual forces with physical force it wont work .. jeff ..

  • sad that only a handful of amercia has seen this.

  • WE SEE HERE ONE OF THE ILLUMINATIS PREY Mr.123Tiarnan is basically been brainwashed with advertisment,media(news) and all sorts of BULL!!! made by the goverment..We cannot allow them tp control us any longer!!! one day when one man stands..the rest will follow!!! keep the faith brothers! God is with us all!!!

  • @MrVresnov Why? Because he insults your belief structure about this Ridiculous illuminati crap? Then you throw God into the mix as if that justifies your stupidity!

    "You know your God is man-made, when he hates the same ppl you do"

    Enough with the games. Get off of this illuminati religious cult conspiracy shit and live a real life! You'll discover being certain about anything as misleading and full of garbage will only close your mind further!

  • @jahshuuh ..If you don't believe any of this is because you are BLIND IDIOT. just go away with your ignorance and keep watching the T.V news and American Idol.. IDIOTS like you are still in the majority..

  • @KeMoniito I see little to no reason to mentally assassinate myself with meaningless nonsense as profoundly misleading as this junk material. You should do better to engage in positive and critical thinking. Living a life in fear of this garbage on perpetuates more meaningless garbage from, what unfortunately in your case, under-educated ppl like you!

  • @jahshuuh ...You don't know shit, you fucking PUNK.. you think you know, but you are STUPID and therefore you can't see that you actually DO NOT KNOW SHIT.. that's why Socrates was the WISEST man in history; because he was AWARE that he didn't KNOW anything, but KNOWING THAT, made him WISE.. you talk about 'positive and critical thinking" but you FAIL to connect dots in history, world events and how it's all connected.. you are a FOOL; your IGNORANCE is bigger than your "education".

  • @KeMoniito What does Socrates have to do withanything? At what point do you see me being dogmatically certain about anything other rejecting this bs conspiracy junk? It was also said that Socrates may not have existed at all. But the philosophical argument attributed to him are alive and well. It is you that is dogmatically certain and therefore unwise to alternative modes of thinking. Alternative to your pessimistic outlook. You should engage in critical and positive thinking! It can do u good

  • @jahshuuh thats right

  • @KeMoniito Fucking punk. Is that any way to talk to someone. BTW, nice channel. lol.....Emo Hitler...you fucking IDIOT.

  • Do people really believe this crap lol

  • @123Tiarnan

    yes, I do believe it !

  • @123Tiarnan ... Fucking dumb ass sheep.. get the fuck out of here , you imbecile; you don't know shit...

  • Bingo! And those of you who follow the reptilian angle: check out David Icke's eyes. He's telling the "truth". The detail he always omits is that he's one of them. His pupils are never the same shape and the color of both eyes vacillates from green to blue. Same with bush. I've seen him with green eyes, blue eyes, and, most often, dead black.

  • @gvbaker55 Good observations ! If you watch some of his interviews on British talk shows he often says that he is Jesus Christ incarnate....O_o

  • I took mushrooms once and was so completely filled with the Holy Spirit I thought I was going to die. I SAW God. Now when I look out the window, I "see" GOD in everything, the trees, the planets, my friends, all is GOD. And this GOD loves us.

  • @79hfx lucifer the morning star is satan. you can call him what you want it doesnt change who he is

  • THESE are the people that want to cause wars between muslim and christain and jew and between black and white divide and rule us all

  • I thought Hitler was bad.

  • @peterthehibby It is the continuation of the 3rd Reich.

  • is jeremy lin involved in this craP?

  • People are waking up. the illuminati are soon to be cut out from this world forever. the tribes that once roamed free throughout the lands are coming together once again, but this time the tribes communicate and roam through the internet. we have the ability to take down this establishment once and for all. keep waking up, wake up, wake up, wake up...............

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  • @DeletedComment u mean the N.S.A!? 

  • Its time to be self-reliant. We must separate ourselves from the sheep. Dont search for jobs, unemployment will conintue to rise even in these desperate times. Creating home based businesses is a great way to build income on top of your school or full time job. My home based business with energy gives me time to research and prepapre for the future what lies ahead. If interested in earning extra money josh.whyambitworks(dot)com

  • Amazing documentary such truth even brought in the quantom physics of true nature and the cosmic concious of god.

  • @RonPaul2012vote123 These are the enemies of God that the Bible warned us of 2000 years ago. The Book of Revelation--the last book in the Bible--warns that in the last days there will be a one-world government and a mass killing of Christians who refuse to worship the antichrist--the demonic leader who will head the one-world government once it has been wholly established.

  • James Blunt has got a longer lineage that the Queen. That's why the press slagged him off so much. "aristocratic army officer becomes pop star... boo boo". But they're twats. His entire family history is recorded 'because' they were always members of the military. (twat is pronounced like 'cat' or 'mat' ;) (not like 'what' or 'pot')

  • Crowley has never been a Satanist. He made fun of Satanists. He didn't believe in Satan at all.

  • in Revelations satan is thrown into the lake of fire along with his side kicks, the illuminati would never write that into a book because they (luciferians) believe satan (who they worship) defeats God and takes over heaven and rules and reigns forever..,if they wrote the bible they would of never portrayed satan as a evil fallen angel and Jesus as the resurrected king in heaven who will come and defeat the devil

  • What if Revelations is not a prophecy but the written plan of the Illuminati...

  • The illuminati is in bible prophecy. REVELATION 17 speaks of ten kings who hate the lamb they hate christ these ten kings make a pact with the beast the anti christ to rule the world. together the beast and these ten kings turn against the harlot church and devour her that is the catholic church. basically the last pope will be the anti christ who will turn against his own church , he will than rule the world with the illuminati. They will succedd untill JESUS will return to judge them

  • @cuvinteleluitati Atlantis & the Mahabharata which predated the Christian bible by 1000's of years. The tale reads that 2 opposing forces of good & evil seperated into the fifth dimension(The Fallen) called the illuminati & Luminari. These bodies fell to Earth into the physical. They battle until the Avitar(Blue djinn) awakes to join these forces into the one. Veda is the most unaltered knowledge of the past. The later tale is Zues(Sun) vs Posiedon(Moon)  or blackmagic vs Psi.

  • @LendMeYourHand all i know my friend is that the bible predicted this war between christ and satan. infact christ told us exactly what satan would plan to do to this world and so far its happening just as the lord JESUS said it would happen. the harlot church the vatican satans counterfit christian church is located in rome just as the lord JESUS told us in revelation 17. The beast who is the pope is teaming with the illuminati just as the lord JESUS TOLD US IN REV 17.

  • This is so poorly done that it's comical. The whispering, very proper voice, the random facts comes and so, never supported by an ounce of documentation, the creepy background music. It's such a poorly put together clip that it's really just laughable. You're a conspiracy whack job and there are enough gullible people to help you get by -- but anyone with a shred of intelligence and education knows you've got your own fairly dark agenda. Grow up, kids, and produce something worthwhile.

  • @icarusdescending881 Not going to disagree, but you'd probably agree with the official story of 9/11 to. The point here is that these A holes ruling over us believe in this crap. Thats what you should be worried about, not the people uncovering it. The freemasonic order have deep historical ties with illuminati rituals, which have been written time & again thru the ages. There existence is beside the point, when world leaders practice these arts of mind control to this day

  • People need to understand, its not what you believe, its what they believe. switch off the main-stream movie they constantly play to us. Start looking for alternative news. Dont believe the t.v its been lying to us from the get go. teach your kids to question everything, its up to us to teach the next generation how to critically think, coz the education system certainly doesnt. Much luv to all who seek the truth, give the rest time theyll wake up soon enough, its in us all.

  • i love luci hahaha

  • judging from many comments in here, i can see that many people are not ready to be unplugged from the matrix. keep preaching and waking people up. 

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  • its started with geopolitics and leading to satan shit, wtf?

  • i see no reason to believe any of this. but if you take this out all that is left is a silly men's club.

    now why should i join a silly men's club?

  • Lucifer and mickey mouse both are cartoons drawn by a pathetic sick-minded creator who made made both of them possable (I'm speaking about the divinity).

  • @TheBlitzrat How is God sick-minded for giving everyone free will?

  • @oscarmarin1995 To take pleasure out of suffering and confusion is sick-minded. God is supreme, but he is far from perfect.

  • @TheBlitzrat How does God gets pleasure from suffering and confusion?

  • @oscarmarin1995 Because he is sick-minded. There could be an intelligable reason behind his insanity. But the fact that we are empathetic to other peoples suffering is evidence that there is a living, and feeling god.

  • @TheBlitzrat That's preposterous! God isn't insane. He just gives us free will. God doesn't joy in our suffering, but it gets us closer to God.

  • FIRE BUN PON DEVIL WORSHIPERS THE ALMIGHTY THE CREATOR IS THE ONLY WAY FOWARD

  • this is some scary shit !

  • you can not BELIEVE in Lucifer for He is A Bringer of Light and Knowledge.In islam excist theory that Satan's(Iblis) Act of Rebellion was leaded by God's Will-think about that kind of conspiracy-They altogether give man knowledge to SEE what he(we) Will-Will do.Therefore We are Losers Blind path of Evoluthion or whatever-for live is not only living thing-but I quess if there is a extra-terrestial they will hate us.every knowledge wears new seed of extinction and kanibalizam-we deserve to DIE

  • @boyo416 your insane -we did not ask for this government state

  • @boyo416 Dude your logical sense pisses me off. Nothing deserves to die. The universe is nothing more than a balance act. U take from somthing u give back to it vice vera etc

  • 25:39 Does anyone know what is happening here. And where it happens. It seems weird that a room full of people are all wearing crowns that look exactly like the queens crown.

    Also 51:41 the place where this was filmed, can you still get to the point the camera man was filming from?

  • I hope that *stigmata* girl got paid for looking so silly..

  • Amazing research and video! Thank you.

  • youtube.com/watch?v=NnILyC9pfa­Y Please watch my video guys, Thanks :)

  • we are all born into duality as sons of MAN ,we must be born again in the spirit as sons of God. the beast is in us all we must kill it and become spiritual people. The churchs are retarding our spiritual growth. start meditating and ask god to open your eyes ,because when he does holy shit you will be surprised. They are playing us ,get out of their game and turn of your TVS for atleast 2 weeks and return to the woods if you can ,this is where you can connect again to your roots. love to all

  • two trees , tree of knowledge =satan duality good and evil ONLY. then you have the tree of life the spirit. same as the croos up salvation /tree of life/spirit. cross down is tree of knowlegde ,same cross is on the popes chair. jesus said to peter get behind me satan ,peter was killed on an upside down cross. pope is in st peters square ,the popes money is peters pence. purple is duality red choas'war/ evil mixed with blue peace good. I can go on and on if you want more let me know.peace.

  • we are all born into sin ,we are born sons and daughter of man ,we must be born again in the spirit and we become sons and daughter of god. Baphomet has one arm up it says solve and one down pointing to earth and that means wither. baphomet has women man and beast and the wings of the fallen so it is XXXY. or 666 7 =25 women are xx or 12 men are xy or 13. same as jewish age for boys and girls. capricorn is the 10th sign. the w on whitehouse is two roman numeral 5's. 10 downings is the .

  • skull and bones is 322 ,it is 223 or BBC television is their tool.. baphomet = the horns are the fallopian tubes after the fall fall opian then goes down to the uterus from u to us ,the uterus is the goats head google uterus and hit image then it goes to a women the breast , arms of a man and goat /animal legs. It is the Y chromosome. we are all made from mother XX father XY together XXXY. X is the 24th letter 2+4=6 so you have 3 x's =666 then Y=25th letter or 2+5=7 then add them all 6667=25

  • i am proud of my self what i am you beter study more about freemason.ther is no religeion higher than truth.

  • 16:32 all credibility went right out the window, smart one starting on about excorcism if you want pple to believe in secret society's ruling over us.....

  • the belgian king's name is Van Saxen-Coburg as well, why didn't they try to hide it? it is commonly known that they are related to Germans why do americans act so surprised?

  • the BEELZEBUB Manga

  • I think that you urself are one of them

  • this is the evil that's destroying the world, funny how after there large scale ritual of 9/11 they blamed Islam, why? why not kill two birds with one stone, as Islam is the only threat to them. Islam the truth from the creator a mercy to mankind which will one day rid this earth of all evil. they will continue trying to tarnish and demonize Islam which ever way they can. " And say, "Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart." Quran17:81.

  • @kaz1i Given that Muslim clerics themselves regard 9/11 to have been an act done in the name of Islam and there are hundreds of them on record saying so you are clearly totally deluded to think they are all fakes. But there again, if you believe the idiotic crap in this video and you don't even know who it's by or in what interests you are just being led by the nose.

  • 0:23:13 Star Wars lol (:...omg the devil truly exists!!!!...well it's a documentary right?

  • AWESOME VIDEO THANKS FOR UPLOAD!@

  • LOL god is dead... nietzsche said so!!!!!!!!

  • Take a look at the film, "Rosemary's Baby." The story is essentially what we are facing. We are Rosemary's character in the movie. What she suffers so too will we. Satanic forces surround us ready to betray. I am so angry at this deception I want to load them on the scrapped space shuttles and dump them in the deepest, darkest limits of the galaxy. God bless y'all

  • its not depopulation, its 1,divide 2,rule and 3,conquer. 1 confusion, 2 take charge, 3 dictate. 1 death, 2 dying , 3 living just about.1 less jobs, 2 more mouths, 3 take whats given to survive. born die reincarnation is the cycle and game that is played and waves that have to be surfed.

  • NO more tyranny!

    MilitantPatriot com

  • What's that whispering sound is it a chant

  • U r check mate in our hands...

  • God ....dont shit a brick..it was just an apple!!

  • a rigid belief system to give you a false sense of security and meaning... your illuminati video has meaning.. its a whole bucket of murky water you can`t explain any of your dribbling shit ideas bush did this and bombed iraq for oil and hired people to fly planes into the towers hahaha it just shows how immature and gullible people who believe in these videos really are.

  • @humblepie6 Oh okay, and what makes you right?

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  • so what?

  • in.2016.i.want.to.be.a.of.the.­bhoemian.grove

  • i.love.satan

  • i.hate.god

  • i.gone.to.be.a.freemasons

  • The image he claims is of Russell founder of the Skull and Bones is actually of G.W.F. Hegel the German philosopher. If he can't get that right what else is wrong in this video?

  • pero aver no seran criaturas de otras realidades sitios ciudades escondidas y que tienen poderes tecnolojicos y mentales abria q mirar eso

  • Because Bible prophecy ,which is history written in advance,tells of this and now we can see how the anti christ and his false prophet who worship Satan will rule during the last years prior to the Second Coming.

  • Although Duchess of Kent is married to Freemason Grand Master Duke of Kent ,it is her sister in law Princess Michael of Kent who is married to Prince Michael the younger brother of the Duke ,that has nazi lineage.this video shows photo of wrong lady..Duchess of Kent..who is an English heiress..her sister in law Princes Michael is German and is also related closely to the Queens husband who had nazi cousins and brother in laws.

  • @929pamful Christopher Everard is Often WRONG, due only to his own paranoid delusional opinions which he claims are 100% Truth. Everard is a Fear Monger who is not helping his cause. Christopher Everard would have us all believe that Shamans to modern Wiccans are ALL involved with some Illuminati which is obviously untrue & an over zealous paranoid umbrella approach to group ALL pagans into the category of evil-doer & satanist. He must be a Fundamentalist Xtian, He is Paranoid & very dangerous.

  • You have the wrong Kent..it is Princess Michael of Kent not the Duchess of kent..they are married to brothers.

  • @BiggerThinking1 i ain't gonna waste my time with a ytube argument, i rather spend my time having fun,getting high and getting laid and getting educated not talkin to closedminded loons. enjoy your life!!

  • @DopeteK lol, a gracious and friendly comment on youtube! we must both have taken a wrong turn and ended up on here by mistake!;)

  • @BiggerThinking1 so im a stupid ass eh!what i'd expect from a frustrated fairytale believer who is old enough to know better. oh and by the way its "herd" not "heard!! but hey i'm the stupid one who doesn't believe satanic lizards rule the world! its called control and its been goin on for millenia! your so called hero's just shit all over what is actually a serious political situation!!

  • The vietnamese won the war defensively!

  • All i saw in this whole documentary was a bunch of statements, the director just provided me with statements and didn't give me any evidence. I believed to some extent about world corruption and hoped this documentary would help me but all it did was tell me about a bunch of stuff other conspirators have written, get me some hard evidence please!!!! and where does all the satanic stuff come from. where is the evidence for that. the doc just told me a bunch of stuff but didn't back any of it up!!

  • @pointlessposse138

    trust me its true about all the satanic rituals and the Magog i am muslim and the majority was true we beleiev such things too but the political parts im not sure

  • I like conspiracy theories better when they seem a little realistic. Could have at lest removed the satanic part. Was that David Icke in there? If David Icke is a part of a serious documentary, the documentary is not serious.

  • @laredaljon what is your perception of realistic? to them that satanic part is VERY real. and at that point it does not matter what you Believe. it matters that they are acting. Truth is in the evidence. You toss a stone in a pond your going to see ripples

  • It is now the duty of the people of planet earth to kill everyone in the bilderberg group

  • Thats the truth what post under mines says. Wow!

  • The human spirit is governed by the ego. The ego is created in the mind. Full of labels and biases, hatred, murder and greed. It is the ego that possesses the body. It is the ego that desires and consumes mankind. The ego cares only for the survival of self. The ego exists separately from the whole. We don't have to worry about invisible entities. We ourselves are the problem. We cause war, we pollute the planet, we murder one another. We all are antichrist for we know not where we came from.

  • And You people claim NWO is overaggressive, with mind controlling propaganda?! Then who made (mega) tons of this idiotic, unlimited impossible to watch "documentaries"? Good people of the world? What's Your intention? How stupid, how short-sighted must one be to swallow such non eatable, sour and bitter porridge of obvious lies, disinformation, false claims, a la Frankenstein edited "material".What do U really want? To get to grab, to be in (on) power by Yourselves, that is the answer!

  • Hahahahahaha what a load of shit

  • @MrPunkandPissed prove it

  • I love these movies, this nutjob actully ties in The illuminati, aliens, Ghosts, alien ghosts, and the death of princess Di. I love it.This director's got like 5 or 6 movies. WATCH THEM ALL! Spoiler: these films NEVER use any other music. Start with secret space 1+2 then the illuminati movies and the spirtworld. Funny as hell.

  • LUCIFER means the light bearer, illumination

  • 0:15:00 to 0:15:40 cats have a higher frequency range, major woo-woo award here,

    this is the guys that beleive reptilian are controlling the world, he change his story depending on the documentory being film, and i guess the money his earning, lol

    so ridiculous,

  • that pentagon non sence at the beginning is a good exemple of synchronocity,

    people dont even know why the pentagon is shape like it is?? do some research,

    they needed the building that big in a record time, the only site that could take the space was this farm site, limited by 5 road around, and it was out of building a high building because steel was needed, the architech made it fit in the pentagonal limit of the land,

    now crackpot link this to the occult,

    stupid

  • I am a staunch believer that 9/11 was pulled off by the executive and military branches of the US Government with help of a behind the scenes type group or force possibly the CFR or Buildeburg. And the evidence to support this claim is out there and documented. So how could the "hijackers" have trained on the CIA's tab if there were no hijackers?!?! Kinda contradictory.

  • The Illuminati have nothing to do with Jesus Christ. So, why when I read these comments do I see countless posts along the lines of "People Wake up!!! Jesus is coming!!!" See, there is ONE major difference between Jesus Christ (or any other modern day prophet) and the Illuminati. That difference is: The Illuminati is real, and Jesus Christ is a fairy tale. (See Zietgiest: The Greatest Stroy Ever Told). If you are too quaint to accept the truth, then go watch a gospel video, stop posting here. :)

  • @TheIlluminatiZombie When the dark forces close in on you, just say "Jesus" and then tell me he is a fairy tale.

  • @TheIlluminatiZombie

    hahah EXACTLY, illuminati made the bible as it's produced today, and ppl read it and think it's thousands of years old, they should do some research in which fairy tales they believe.

    It's actually edited, the original bible is called De Dea Magisterium. To this day the pope still uses it, and people come to me and tell me about Jesus? LOL

    Both the illuminati freemasons and the sheeple are so deluded. They bring evil into the world and call it "satan".

  • @TheIlluminatiZombie-Although I am not a Christian, far from it, I must say you're Wrong.

    Jesus Christ WAS a documented Prophet, sorcerer/Magus of his day.

    The Bible is filled with various "fairy-tales" as you say, spanning 66 books & taken from every major religion of mysticism prior to it, today's version only includes what King James Allowed, thus many books were prevented from inclusion. Jesus WAS a REAL man, who may have faked his death & pursued Gnosticism with Mary Magdalene in Europe.

  • @1AppleofEden Why the hell are you so invested in some BS like that? Jesus faked his death? WTF? Well, I guess we'll all find out soon enough. I just hope "soon enough" isn't too late.

  • @TheIlluminatiZombie How can you expect people to be open-minded about the Illiuminati, then say some close-minded BS like that? WTF?

  • @TheIlluminatiZombie

    Zietgiest is co-intel, go read the bible and ask god, to show you the truth... before making an ignorant quote... I know jesus is real and at work in my life so therefore I see both sides of the story.. If they worship death and destruction then life and creation must exist...

    Christ is life, Jesus is TRUTH !

    Ask yourself?

    1. Is what your believe convenient for you?

    2. would you die for what you believe?

  • @fade777777 my beliefs are in no way convenient, but they will pry my iron from my cold dead hands. i believe there is one true God; just not sure which version we have today is the closest to the truth. if i weren't already crazy id mention the voices; i believe i actually talk with either God or satan; can't really say 4 sure, but something is pumping stuff into my brain.

  • @TheMrfrawg

    Is this voice pumping bible scripture into you brain and telling you to repent and follow Jesus Christ? if not then its Satan.

  • The picture of "William Huntington Russell" is actually a picture of Hegel.

  • Oh.... it's Jota! i thought it was Yoda LOL!

  • Lucifer is nothing more than a fallen angel; God is God. NO ONE ELSE. Not "gods" - sure there are ANGELS and Lucifer WAS an angel but he fell under God's commands because he got (surprise surprise) arrogant, greedy, and wanted to think of himself as a "god". So sad. Lucifer could have just followed God's commandments and this video would be respecting him as an angel. Now, he (the "devil") just gets pleasure out of ruling hell... so sad.

  • @deadheadlooser

    lol, read the original bible, De Dea Magisterium.

    you really think your bible is so holy? it's nothing but an empty shell of what it used to be.

    Fact remains the illuminati altered the bible so that ppl would be fooled to read it and think it was good.

  • @ZombifyIt (fact remains illuminati altered the bible)--theres no doubt the bible is a bastard of earlier writings, altered edited and mistranslated a ton of times, but heres an uncomfortable "fact" the illuminati of these documentaries is a myth. the real illuminati was a revolutionary/intellectual group with no power, never got any, and was destroyed. It had nothing to do with families or bloodlines.Most of the "evidence" presented in these docs is false, or so illogical...cont.

  • @2Jakk

    They were established by Pike in 1776, facts, no myths.

    however I do agree with you on there being a bigger picture, and that mankind will always try to rule over their own.

  • @ZombifyIt who was est. by pike? not the illuminati. nor the freemasons. the freemasons actually werent even a homogenous organization back then, the european FM's were quite different from U.S. freemasons, all across europe different lodges were created for different purposes & had differing beliefs, it wasnt until (relatively) recently that they became more unified.

  • @2Jakk

    Albert Pike, 33rd degree Freemason, he formed the illuminati, organized crime through government in 1776.

  • @ZombifyIt Can you cite that? Because that would mean that the illuminati created by Adam Weisaupt (1776) in Bavaria is continually being confused with Albert Pike's Illuminati, who incidentally,wasn't a bad guy. As a matter of fact he went to bat for native americans.People make a big deal about "lucifarianism" but these are paranoid christians who don't understand the philosophic principle this actually represented,being put into a context that fit the time period (religious).cont.

  • @2Jakk

    hmm, it seems you've studied more on this subject than I have, if you wish, I'd like to recieve more of your views via PM, since they dont put any restrictions on there.

  • @ZombifyIt sure, id be happy to.

  • @2Jakk

    Thnx. :)

  • @ZombifyIt ..cont..& (symbolic), many atheists & agnostics of that time period, as science & rational thought was being introduced, had an uphill battle in a society that was still very superstitious with assumptions & prejudice.You'll find references to freedom as lucifarian all through the 17&1800's,Pikes involvement with freemasonry,like many of the period,was merely a place where one could speak & think freely.like all gatherings of the rich, I dont trust it, but..cont..

  • @ZombifyIt .cont..but not trusting the wealthy&powerful has nothing to do with an evil conspiracy.The anarchist Mikhail Bakunin joined the masons for a time thinking it a potential vehicle for revolution but soon quit,totally disgusted with it.The thing is,government,from fuedal to monarchy to republic, have always been about protecting & expanding the privilege of the few.The conspiracy theories currently circulating are actually helping these people!!

  • @ZombifyIt The real Illuminati hosted the first anarchist speaker in germany, and if you know about anarchists (real anarchists) youl know they oppose all power, they fought the red army (makhno, Ukraine) also against franco (anarcho-syndacalists,Spain)an­d have generally been freedom fighters since they started throughout history.

  • @ZombifyIt if you take a closer look at where alot of these conspiracy theories (of this brand) start youll find strong connections to the likes of the john birch society, & other racist extreme right wingers that champion the "zog" conspiracies. Recently they've undergone a transformation with the whole zeitgeist/esoteric agenda & alex jones/bill cooper thing, but its basically the same illogic.

  • @ZombifyIt ..cont..so illogical that the algorithms of the argument are laughable when put into alternate context.The problem isnt secret societies, its the creation of power & wealth.The affinity groups that grow out of wealth&power will always protect their own interests.Its not a few bad apples & an evil plan, it doesnt need the continuity of an "agenda"that spans generations, nor is it all connected in an elaborate web.There are conspiracies,just not like this nonsense.