Hey guys! Don't be annoyed. I am not Nigerian, but I lived there for 4 years. I learned Yoruba and I am pretty much in Love with your country. So me beeing a german, I saw this advertisement and thought it is a good Idea. And actually they said it is mainly financed by private money not by the government. I have met so many german businessman that had to visit Lagos and they never ever want to go there again. Maybe they would go to Eko Atlantic and leave their money there. Think about it.
@kolatabaer I will Like Nigeria to become an Industrialized Nation. I want them to focus on the Power Sector because without that, then becoming an Idustrialied Nation will be pointless. Everything should be privatized because the government is corrupt. If one part of Nigeria can focus on the Power Sector while the other part focus on Eko Atlantic, then there will be a giant leap forward. Maintainance and Enviromental sanitation is very important too
@nograviti The problem with Nigerians is that when they build up something and that thing is completed, they think that that thing which they have built will remain new forever. So they dont bother to keep money for maintainance.
Another problem with Nigeria is this...Instead of Using their money to build skyscrapers with no electricity and water suplly, why not use the money to build natural gas fired electric plants to produce electricity for the whole country?
@nograviti Nigeria has more than enough resources (especially natural gas) to produce enough electricity not only for the whole of Nigeria but for more half of the countries in Africa thus boosting its economic infrastructure but if you went to most of Nigerias oil fields all their gases are being flared to waste.
@nograviti another thing...instead of building skyscrapers without any considerable power supply, why dont the Nigerian government concentrate on using the money to eliminate all the slums in lagos and build better clean houses. Why doesnt your Nigerian government use its money to build garbage treatment plants where are the garbage in the streets can be transformed into not toxic powders.
@nograviti Now what makes a country successful is the country's ability to generate electricity & water suppply to every of its state,cities and villages, The country's ability to build garbage treatment plants and sewage plants, thus keeping its enviroment clean. A country's ability to get rid of slum,shanty houses and build better homes. Its ability to keep money to maintain what it constructs for rennovation on a yearly basis instead of steaing the money. Eko atklantic means zero development
@nograviti Doing nothing about slums and going to build skyscrapers means the slums are still there.<< NO developments
Eliminating the slums and providing electricity to every part of the country <<That is progress
Most countries have zero natural resources for power, no skyscrapers but yet, they have constant electricity and your country is the greatest oil producer in Africa and there is no electricity or water and you all you guys are thinking is build skyscrapers? Is that wise?
@RobertsDigital Sadly Rob, you appear to have little understanding of economics. One of the first observations I made at young age about capitalism, was that it ticks along nicely even with slums.
To discuss the issues around why nigeria has poor electrical production is a long story. Firstly Eko Atlantic will have its own power and sewage systems and the power stituation in lagos is being addressed as we speak. Eko Atlantic produce wealth that will then flow to other parts of Nigeria
@nograviti Interestingly, although it wasnt your intention, you did point out that having a lot of natural resources isnt always a boon to economic development. This isnt a problem afflicting only Africans, the relative under development of oil rich states in the middle east highlights this.
Nigeria is a young country and unlike nation states in Europe or Asia, it is an artifical grouping of 'imo' three distinct proto nation states (Igbo, Yoruba & Hausa), which has led to a turbulent history.
@nograviti Steering a nation state is akin to guiding an oil tanker, changes in direction are slow to perceive visually, but it over time the change becomes apparent.
Corruption in Nigeria is aided and abetted by the west, billions of Nigerian petrodollars have gone in Swiss, UK and US bank accounts. Yet the authorities in those respective countries havent been particularly proactive about tracking this dirty money down.
@nograviti Finally gas flaring, you can lay the origins for this waste with british oil companies like shell who started this process and the Nigerians only continued it. Also if you look at LNG, it is only a recent phenomenon, with interesting origins in Apartheid South Africa. They learnt to cool and compress it to have a power source that circumvented fuel embargos imposed by the west. Also Gas only spiked in value in the recent commodity boom & such infrastructure takes time to create.
@nograviti Nigeria's economic situation betrays its history. The British were not interested in nation building and the muddled political/physical infrastructure reflects this. Improvements will take time and Nigeria appears to be finally heading in the right direction. Reflect on this, arguably Britain's zenith in the victorian era, when it pioneered rail technology and was the "workshop of the world",yet writers like Dickens documented the brutal crushing poverty in the SLUMS of east London
@nograviti Sadly nograviti, you appear to have little understanding of economics Most African countries are actually ruled by people like you. People who never take advice on what is good for the whole country. You are killing yourself about electricity generation for eko atlantic alone while the rest of the country has nothing.
Since you dont want to taken my advice remain in your poverty then. Eko atlantic does not make Nigeria an industrialized nation. It keeps nigeria exactly where it is.
@RobertsDigital Little understanding of Economics? Hmm I went to a top 5 UK university and did Politics, Philosphy and Economics for my first degree and did comp sci for my masters. I work in investment banking doing algorithmic trading development in Java primarily. hmmm OK! Your response shows you are a typical uninformed caucasian who has a myopic view of Africa, based on the stereotypes in films like the blood diamond, congo or tarzan.
@nograviti Re wealth, I am quite wealthy, part of the UK 1% in fact (self made fortune I will add). The problem is that Nigeria isnt ruled by people like myself, type in "Babatunde Fashola" and you will see an individual who I would like to run Nigeria. Unlike the thieves in government who are aided by western countries. Funny you never tackled any of my points and took days to answer (chicken?) :) Also bar Asia, sub-saharan recorded the highest overall economic growth globally last year hmm
@RobertsDigital Nigeria needs to concentrate less on building skyscrapers with no electricity where only the rich can dwell in and Concentrate on its power industry. A countries wealth does not depend on the amount of no light-skyscrapers you build. A countries wealth depends on how that country is able to generate electricity and water supply to everpart of that country. The power/enviromental industry provides benefits and creates jobs for everyone and boosts economy. Skyscrapers do not.
(Not familiar with Nigeria and development there...) So here are some questions...Is there not enough real estate already to do this kind of a project? What do they mean by re-claiming? Is it similar to the artificial islands that were built in Dubai? Are there fears of sea level rising (Architecture 2030 challenge?) and impacting the coastal areas (the great wall will not even come close to protecting the newly built city)?
O yes! There's no problem in an Igbo man becoming Governor of Lagos. We, Yoruba people, are more than ready and will vote for a good igbo man who loves Yoruba people. But this Igbo man is hard to find. How many Ben Akabueze are out there?The Igbo are stuck in the past and always talking of how Yoruba ruined thier lives in the civil war. The Yoruba would do anything for Igbo to love them, but with this we're just dreamers. In the long run, it is the igbo that miss out on true sense of belonging.
Why dont u instead wish for a Capable ''Igbo governor'' who can work as hard as Fashola is presently doing???... That , IMO, Is a much better and realistic wish... :)
@Zamzaki1 Uhm! Since when Lagos become home to ONDO, OGUN, OYO, OSUN, KWARA people alone ? or abi nah by force ? NO... go to the street and start beating the IGBOS to IMO first or stop them from VOTING or being voted for first before we look up to 2,500 years time... TRIBALISTIC MORON.
Lmao... U make me Laugh so hard, I dont even know where to begin.....
U call yourself an Igbo person {Onye Igbo}, and thn wish for an Igbo governor, 4 Lagos, y would u wish for that, when there are 5 South Eastern states, under Igbo governorship, reeling in Political turmoil?? And when did I say Lagos was Home for Yoruba peeps only, U are the one who has a Tribalistic mindset, I wont go on to Insult Igbo people. Coz I know u are in the Tiny minority,{The Morons} NITWIT!!!........
@Zamzaki1 Typical hater.hate any one that is good to IGBOS so you think I am Igbo just cos I sympathize with them. Where did I Type I'm Igbo ?Your hatred for Igbos will lead you no where. And who told you the country was divided along ethnic lines ?Go and study the constitution of the country to know the rights of a citizen of Nigeria before you exhibit your tribalism. Idiot you dont want another ribal man to rule another town but you want to enjoy the oil from another tribal land.
@Killayut Who is this 1?? U didnt mentn Igbo, really?? what governor were u wishing 4 Lagos , jst a while ago????.... And I am nt even Yoruba, , Look @ my username, U moose, bcoz u seem so blind.& U sound like a broken record, sorry 2 say, because if u knew Ish abt Nigerian Finance, u wld know Lagos state dosent depend 4rm Oil proceeds,& generates Billions yearly, all by itself.
So, do every1 here a favor by shutting yr Ignorant ass up
@Zamzaki1 Like Jonathan is going to be the president of Nigeria for another 5 years nomatter what your alamjiris do is like how one day an Igbo will be governor of Lagos state.
BTW: for your information, the Vast majority of Nigerian Oil wells and gas fields are located deep offshore, in the sea, and The sea belongs to no man, so keep deceiving yourself there, that some people's ancestral land is powering the nation. The Oil thing has been more of a curse anyways, I wish it dries up Overnight.
Hey guys! Don't be annoyed. I am not Nigerian, but I lived there for 4 years. I learned Yoruba and I am pretty much in Love with your country. So me beeing a german, I saw this advertisement and thought it is a good Idea. And actually they said it is mainly financed by private money not by the government. I have met so many german businessman that had to visit Lagos and they never ever want to go there again. Maybe they would go to Eko Atlantic and leave their money there. Think about it.
kolatabaer 7 months ago
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RobertsDigital 6 months ago
@kolatabaer I will Like Nigeria to become an Industrialized Nation. I want them to focus on the Power Sector because without that, then becoming an Idustrialied Nation will be pointless. Everything should be privatized because the government is corrupt. If one part of Nigeria can focus on the Power Sector while the other part focus on Eko Atlantic, then there will be a giant leap forward. Maintainance and Enviromental sanitation is very important too
RobertsDigital 6 months ago
@RobertsDigital remember the one guy who tried to privatize everything, what they called him
Gods1mbad 5 months ago
Can we stop arguing please and enjoy the fact that this project is moving forward smoothly....
This project spells change for nigeria if not west africa. Eko Atlantic will be to Nigeria, as Shenzhen was to China... : )
nograviti 10 months ago
@nograviti Eko Atlantc is will do very little...it doesnt help Nigeria. i will tell you why.
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
@RobertsDigital Go on, please explain. I am always interested in different opinions on something...
nograviti 8 months ago
@nograviti The problem with Nigerians is that when they build up something and that thing is completed, they think that that thing which they have built will remain new forever. So they dont bother to keep money for maintainance.
Another problem with Nigeria is this...Instead of Using their money to build skyscrapers with no electricity and water suplly, why not use the money to build natural gas fired electric plants to produce electricity for the whole country?
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
@nograviti Nigeria has more than enough resources (especially natural gas) to produce enough electricity not only for the whole of Nigeria but for more half of the countries in Africa thus boosting its economic infrastructure but if you went to most of Nigerias oil fields all their gases are being flared to waste.
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
@nograviti another thing...instead of building skyscrapers without any considerable power supply, why dont the Nigerian government concentrate on using the money to eliminate all the slums in lagos and build better clean houses. Why doesnt your Nigerian government use its money to build garbage treatment plants where are the garbage in the streets can be transformed into not toxic powders.
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
@nograviti Now what makes a country successful is the country's ability to generate electricity & water suppply to every of its state,cities and villages, The country's ability to build garbage treatment plants and sewage plants, thus keeping its enviroment clean. A country's ability to get rid of slum,shanty houses and build better homes. Its ability to keep money to maintain what it constructs for rennovation on a yearly basis instead of steaing the money. Eko atklantic means zero development
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
@nograviti Doing nothing about slums and going to build skyscrapers means the slums are still there.<< NO developments
Eliminating the slums and providing electricity to every part of the country <<That is progress
Most countries have zero natural resources for power, no skyscrapers but yet, they have constant electricity and your country is the greatest oil producer in Africa and there is no electricity or water and you all you guys are thinking is build skyscrapers? Is that wise?
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
@RobertsDigital Sadly Rob, you appear to have little understanding of economics. One of the first observations I made at young age about capitalism, was that it ticks along nicely even with slums.
To discuss the issues around why nigeria has poor electrical production is a long story. Firstly Eko Atlantic will have its own power and sewage systems and the power stituation in lagos is being addressed as we speak. Eko Atlantic produce wealth that will then flow to other parts of Nigeria
nograviti 8 months ago
@nograviti Interestingly, although it wasnt your intention, you did point out that having a lot of natural resources isnt always a boon to economic development. This isnt a problem afflicting only Africans, the relative under development of oil rich states in the middle east highlights this.
Nigeria is a young country and unlike nation states in Europe or Asia, it is an artifical grouping of 'imo' three distinct proto nation states (Igbo, Yoruba & Hausa), which has led to a turbulent history.
nograviti 8 months ago
@nograviti Steering a nation state is akin to guiding an oil tanker, changes in direction are slow to perceive visually, but it over time the change becomes apparent.
Corruption in Nigeria is aided and abetted by the west, billions of Nigerian petrodollars have gone in Swiss, UK and US bank accounts. Yet the authorities in those respective countries havent been particularly proactive about tracking this dirty money down.
nograviti 8 months ago
@nograviti Finally gas flaring, you can lay the origins for this waste with british oil companies like shell who started this process and the Nigerians only continued it. Also if you look at LNG, it is only a recent phenomenon, with interesting origins in Apartheid South Africa. They learnt to cool and compress it to have a power source that circumvented fuel embargos imposed by the west. Also Gas only spiked in value in the recent commodity boom & such infrastructure takes time to create.
nograviti 8 months ago
@nograviti Nigeria's economic situation betrays its history. The British were not interested in nation building and the muddled political/physical infrastructure reflects this. Improvements will take time and Nigeria appears to be finally heading in the right direction. Reflect on this, arguably Britain's zenith in the victorian era, when it pioneered rail technology and was the "workshop of the world",yet writers like Dickens documented the brutal crushing poverty in the SLUMS of east London
nograviti 8 months ago
@nograviti Sadly nograviti, you appear to have little understanding of economics Most African countries are actually ruled by people like you. People who never take advice on what is good for the whole country. You are killing yourself about electricity generation for eko atlantic alone while the rest of the country has nothing.
Since you dont want to taken my advice remain in your poverty then. Eko atlantic does not make Nigeria an industrialized nation. It keeps nigeria exactly where it is.
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
@RobertsDigital Little understanding of Economics? Hmm I went to a top 5 UK university and did Politics, Philosphy and Economics for my first degree and did comp sci for my masters. I work in investment banking doing algorithmic trading development in Java primarily. hmmm OK! Your response shows you are a typical uninformed caucasian who has a myopic view of Africa, based on the stereotypes in films like the blood diamond, congo or tarzan.
nograviti 8 months ago
@nograviti Re wealth, I am quite wealthy, part of the UK 1% in fact (self made fortune I will add). The problem is that Nigeria isnt ruled by people like myself, type in "Babatunde Fashola" and you will see an individual who I would like to run Nigeria. Unlike the thieves in government who are aided by western countries. Funny you never tackled any of my points and took days to answer (chicken?) :) Also bar Asia, sub-saharan recorded the highest overall economic growth globally last year hmm
nograviti 8 months ago
@RobertsDigital Nigeria needs to concentrate less on building skyscrapers with no electricity where only the rich can dwell in and Concentrate on its power industry. A countries wealth does not depend on the amount of no light-skyscrapers you build. A countries wealth depends on how that country is able to generate electricity and water supply to everpart of that country. The power/enviromental industry provides benefits and creates jobs for everyone and boosts economy. Skyscrapers do not.
RobertsDigital 8 months ago
(Not familiar with Nigeria and development there...) So here are some questions...Is there not enough real estate already to do this kind of a project? What do they mean by re-claiming? Is it similar to the artificial islands that were built in Dubai? Are there fears of sea level rising (Architecture 2030 challenge?) and impacting the coastal areas (the great wall will not even come close to protecting the newly built city)?
SuadMahmuljin 10 months ago
@SuadMahmuljin Correct. Reclaimning is exactly like what happened in Dubai.
Killayut 10 months ago
O yes! There's no problem in an Igbo man becoming Governor of Lagos. We, Yoruba people, are more than ready and will vote for a good igbo man who loves Yoruba people. But this Igbo man is hard to find. How many Ben Akabueze are out there?The Igbo are stuck in the past and always talking of how Yoruba ruined thier lives in the civil war. The Yoruba would do anything for Igbo to love them, but with this we're just dreamers. In the long run, it is the igbo that miss out on true sense of belonging.
kedoodoo 11 months ago
hell NO
charles2tube 11 months ago
i want an Igbo man to be governor of Lagos state..
Killayut 1 year ago
@Killayut
Keep on searching for that, Till u find it.
Maybe that will be in the year 2,500!!!
Why dont u instead wish for a Capable ''Igbo governor'' who can work as hard as Fashola is presently doing???... That , IMO, Is a much better and realistic wish... :)
Zamzaki1 10 months ago
@Zamzaki1 Uhm! Since when Lagos become home to ONDO, OGUN, OYO, OSUN, KWARA people alone ? or abi nah by force ? NO... go to the street and start beating the IGBOS to IMO first or stop them from VOTING or being voted for first before we look up to 2,500 years time... TRIBALISTIC MORON.
Killayut 10 months ago
@Killayut
Lmao... U make me Laugh so hard, I dont even know where to begin.....
U call yourself an Igbo person {Onye Igbo}, and thn wish for an Igbo governor, 4 Lagos, y would u wish for that, when there are 5 South Eastern states, under Igbo governorship, reeling in Political turmoil?? And when did I say Lagos was Home for Yoruba peeps only, U are the one who has a Tribalistic mindset, I wont go on to Insult Igbo people. Coz I know u are in the Tiny minority,{The Morons} NITWIT!!!........
Zamzaki1 10 months ago
@Zamzaki1 Typical hater.hate any one that is good to IGBOS so you think I am Igbo just cos I sympathize with them. Where did I Type I'm Igbo ?Your hatred for Igbos will lead you no where. And who told you the country was divided along ethnic lines ?Go and study the constitution of the country to know the rights of a citizen of Nigeria before you exhibit your tribalism. Idiot you dont want another ribal man to rule another town but you want to enjoy the oil from another tribal land.
Killayut 10 months ago
@Killayut Who is this 1?? U didnt mentn Igbo, really?? what governor were u wishing 4 Lagos , jst a while ago????.... And I am nt even Yoruba, , Look @ my username, U moose, bcoz u seem so blind.& U sound like a broken record, sorry 2 say, because if u knew Ish abt Nigerian Finance, u wld know Lagos state dosent depend 4rm Oil proceeds,& generates Billions yearly, all by itself.
So, do every1 here a favor by shutting yr Ignorant ass up
Zamzaki1 10 months ago
@Zamzaki1 Like Jonathan is going to be the president of Nigeria for another 5 years nomatter what your alamjiris do is like how one day an Igbo will be governor of Lagos state.
Killayut 10 months ago
@Killayut
BTW: for your information, the Vast majority of Nigerian Oil wells and gas fields are located deep offshore, in the sea, and The sea belongs to no man, so keep deceiving yourself there, that some people's ancestral land is powering the nation. The Oil thing has been more of a curse anyways, I wish it dries up Overnight.
TWAT!! hv a good day!
Zamzaki1 10 months ago
AMEN!
neteraset9 1 year ago
Impressive !
deormayoks1 1 year ago
I like this overview, "Eko Atlantic is truly one of a kind" & Lagos shall remain the city of excellence. God Bless Naija!
preciousena 1 year ago