bishen bedi indias spiner

[ihamoitc2005]

@bvindh, they didn't have youtube back then, did they? You watch it once and never see it again.  Now we can scrutinize these players over and over and over.

Check out the youtube video showing the speed test (not the competition) of lillee and thomson. Both have elbow angles (in their case, probably due to hyperextension rather than actual throwing) that exceed 20 degrees. The angle is easy to calculate because the video is shot in front of a wall with a matrix pattern.

[MrAngy]

@ihamoitc2005 hyperextension is an interesting topic but the icc is very clear in stating that the law only governs normal extension of the elbow joint, not hyperextension, abduction or adduction.

[alexshaun98]

As an Indian, I was disappointed by Bedi's sniping comments about Murali's action.

Bedi probably had the best action amongst all spinners, but he was a bitter man post retirement. [not forgetting his jealousy of Gavaskar when they played together!].

In an Indian program called 'Match ka mujrim'- essentially a post mortem analsysis of games, he used to criticise every bowler mercilessly and none of them were constructive.

Murali, Warney and Chandra were the 3 best spinners I have seen in 40 yrs.

[ihamoitc2005]

The irony in all of this is that Bedi himself was a clear chucker. Simply pause the video when his arm is vertical (just before release) and you'll see that the forearm is perpendicular to the ground but the upper arm (shoulder to elbow) is not. Looks like a 10-12 degree angle.

[bvindh]

@ihamoitc2005

Sir, you are a genius. You noticed something absolutely nobody noticed throughout Bishen's career.

[MangoJones]

@dasiths @dumindulairu @maxlogica

1) Murali bent his arm by about 15 degrees, so the ICC had to TRIPLE the legal bend to legitimise his chucking.

2) Murali made more of an effort to bowl properly during the university studies, but in real games he chucks to his heart's content.

3) Other bowlers simply don't chuck as much, especially not spinners, who have no excuse!

4) Sri Lanka's #1 player is Jayasuriya, a great batsman who plays by the rules instead of chucking.

[maxlogica]

@MangoJones Oh yes mangojones...all those professors at the university who filmed him from every concievable angle and with every sensor on his body under the sun.....he managed to trick them all and fool all those sensitive high tech machines by simply making an 'effort' to bowl properly....what an imbecile you are.

[MangoJones]

@maxlogica

When he's at a university he can just concentrate all his efforts on not straightening his arm (although even then he straightened it 15 degrees, a huge amount)...

When he's on the field, he bends his arm heaps more, to get the maximum spin. Try it in real life some time, the more you chuck the more off spin you can get.

[dasiths]

@MangoJones yeah then all bowlers are culprits, why single out murali. Your argument is mute as it is stupid. If he bends during the matches then how come in the ICC champions trophy McGrath, Harbajan and Lee recorded more degrees than murali. It was a double blinded test. Need a tissue? stop crying.

[maxlogica]

@MangoJones Yes everyone...mangojones is the expert in the field of hyperextension of the arm....all the professors at the university where the tests were conducted...all the ICC representatives who monitored him....all the techonology.....it was all nonsense because mangojones knows better than everyone.

[dasiths]

@MangoJones jealous much? I suppose with an IQ of 10 you can't understand science. Ask someone you know who can read english and can explain to you that the test was measured quality wise. Both spin and pace of the ball. Once you read it come back because at the moment people here are wiping their ass off of you.

[maxxmaddie007dia]

im a right hand offspinner an im sure i can bowl better left arm spin thn ths shithound.

[maxlogica]

murali...you were spot on mate...he WOULD get hammered if he was bowling nowadays....actually he is even getting spanked in the 1970's!! as this video shows!

[MangoJones]

@maxlogica

Don't hate Bedi for telling the truth. Murali is a shot-putter, not a bowler!

[dasiths]

@MangoJones jealous are we? now now don't cry. To say murali chucks because it looks like it is to say the earth is flat because it looks so. Anyone with even 2 brain cells who knows science knows muali doesnt chuck.... grow up.

[MangoJones]

@dasiths

Muralitharan bends his arm up to 15 degrees when he chucks the ball. But instead of making him bowl properly, they took the cowardly route of changing the rules to suit Murali's chicking.

And with the doosra he chucks even more. Cricket is about bowling, not throwing!

[dasiths]

@MangoJones murali bends by 15 degrees? don't make up numbers, you just look foolish mate. Go read the report ICC made. 99% of bowlers go to 12-13 degrees. Murali is no exception and never during testing went above 15 degrees. If you want to ban bowlers who straighten their arm then ban all 99% of them. Have you atleast read the report or are you a bild follower of bedi? some people are borderline retarded. Google youtube for 'exposing adam gilchrists true colors' or 'understanding muralitharan'

[dumindulahiru]

@MangoJones

you dont even know what chucking is u poor child........u can bend ur arm as much as u wont when bowling but chucking is when u straighten ur arm more 15 degrees.u dont even know the laws of cricket & u go & insult a great of the game.& the ICC didnt change the riles just for murali, they did for a number of bowlers including brett lee.grow up u sore loser

[maxlogica]

@MangoJones 800 wickets...a record unlikely to ever be beaten....you sound jealous like bedi...im not even sri lankan but murali was a wonderful bowler.

[bvindh]

@MangoJones

Don't bother telling truth to Lankans!

A Lankan YTer once argued that Sri Lanka is the next super power in making.....if it isn't already!!

[loly1969]

sheet head is actualy a shit head , murali told me :)

[TheAtl2000]

Prasanna was always my favorite...

[abcd966]

Can anybody post Erapalli Prasanna in action, please?

[BelarusIsFun]

bishan bedi was an average cricketer with a very big mouth.. hes a loser

[abcd966]

@BelarusIsFun : For you average guys the word 'average' comes easy!

[dannya333]

Nah Bedi was brilliant, his technique was perfect, he was a lot better than average, bit of a big mouth though granted but former greats often are, look at Boycott